Anatomy of Fredi

“Please somebody, have my back. Anybody?”

and once you begin making knee jerk reactions on one great season that fell short of the playoffs, you are headed down a road of continuous flux in your organization. Every great team has one thing in common is consistency. I am not happy with Fredi. I think his baseball decisions were awful (like Bobby’s), but Bobby won a lot. Fredi had a disappointing season last year. I think firing him is a bit premature, but if we have another disappointing season we need to start making some decisions.

Also, the unnamed source only works when we know who the journalist is. Someone needs to have credibility. You don’t because we don’t know who you are, you aren’t a “reputable” journalist.

A pancake could have coached a team with that much talent to a winning season.

If you believe that, there’s no point in continuing the discussion imo.

However, put yourself in my shoes for a minute. You hear what I hear from a prominent former Brave and read with your own eyes a text from a current. Not only that, an article gets published the day after I write this up claiming league officials think he’s on “probation”. Whether that report holds any water is one thing, but I know for a fact how ONE guy in particular feels about Fredi that plays for him.

Is he the worst manager in the world? Nope. Is he a manager that has shown he can manage a ballclub to success? That I really don’t know. He rode that club on its talent last year, not coach it.

All I want is a manager who actually gives a shit and who won’t continually run us out of innings and learn from his mistakes. I’m not sold we’ll get that from Fredi. I’m sure you wanted to toss your television like the rest of us when he kept sending Prado to second on a hit and run and inexplicably let Lowe continue to start down the stretch when there were other options.

Will the team do good this year? I surely hope so, but I’d be willing to bet my tuition we’ll be seeing much of the same as far as in-game decisions and firing up his club goes.

How people are making argument as to what he’s done to stay. Its not like we’re spouting opinionated rubbish, everything we speak of has been factual. Unfortunately, I think we’ll be seeing more of the same with Fredi as far as decision making goes. Thankfully Wren removed most of the trash from the roster, but I still think Fredi will find a way to screw shit up.

what you seem to be describing is that unless we have a perfect manager, we would complain.

I don’t think that’s the case. It’s very unpossible to have a perfect manager.

Bobby had many faults - but nobody can question his leadership, the devotion of his players, and his intensity.

In my mind, those attributes, along with is occasional genius game-calls outweigh his overuse of bullpen arms or his lineup creation.

But with Fredi…honestly, what can we give him credit for? He doesn’t have the intensity Bobby had. He doesn’t have the leadership. He doesn’t display the emotion. He certainly hasn’t had moments of genius.

What reason, other than “he’s only had one year, let’s give him a chance” can you come up with to support his role as the manager of this team?

as wanting Eddie Perez as manager.

However, I wasn’t unhappy with the Fredi signing. In fact, due to my limited knowledge of his time in Florida (namely, the benching of Hanley Ramirez), I was excited about him.

But by June, that had all worn off.

when you miss the playoffs by one game, you can point to any of a number of reasons why we missed the playoffs, but every team expects to have injuries expects to have deficiencies in the field/pitching. You don’t like losing games that you should win. I think poor managing cost us games (not to say it didn’t under Bobby). IF any of a number of factors were different we may have been a 95-100 win team. but Manager is the most glaring to me (that doesn’t mean i think he should be fired after one season)

I think the big thing is the managing decisions were bad with Bobby, but you always knew the players loved him and he did whatever he could to have their back and make everyone comfortable. So you didn’t mind some of the perceived managing errors bc it all balanced out in a positive way. If Fredi cannot create that same winning atmosphere and is a poor in game manager then he is just a bad manager.

Fredi was not the only reason we missed the playoffs. Injuries, slumps, etc hurt the team.

But, those things are to be expected. Those things are out of anyone’s control.

Teams win with negative factors all the time.

However, our Manager should not be one of the factors we have to overcome in order to win, and I feel that that is exactly what Fredi was/is.

It’s hard enough to make the playoffs in the MLB without your manager making it even more difficult.

And understand completely.

I know what I heard. I know what I read, and I know what was published regarding the situation the next day. TBuzz may be absolutely right that this guy may have just had it in for Freddi, but again, the text he showed me would point otherwise, in that his concerns were shared with atleast ONE player.

All I’ve been saying is we should have concerns and there seem to be some growing from within and outside. Is firing imminent? Probably not.

But fine.