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Braves Fall to Nats 5-3 in Bourn's Debut

Freddie extended his streak, Monday night, but the Braves took a loss in game one of the series against the Nationals.

Michael Bourn began his stint as a Brave in fine fashion, slapping a fastball to the opposite field for a single to lead off the game. Braves fans at Nationals Park made some noise, but the elation was short-lived. Prado smoked a line drive to Ryan Zimmerman at third that began one of three Braves double plays on the night. In the bottom half of the inning, former Brave Rick Ankiel wasn't to be outdone by his leadoff center fielder counterpart, cranking a homer to right center to start the scoring for the night.

Jair Jurrjens was able to keep the Braves within reasonable striking distance, but really looked bad. He couldn't hit the targets that Rossy threw up to save his life. Meanwhile, the Braves' bats were not clutch in the least. Like yesterday's game, the Braves got double digit hits in a loss. All three of the Braves' runs came off of solo shots. Uggla led off the second with one to tie up the game at one apiece, not wasting any time in extending his hitting streak to 23 games. Livan Hernandez punished Jurrjens for giving the eighth hitter, Wilson Ramos, an intentional pass in the second inning. With runners on the corners, one of the better hitting pitchers stroked one through the hole into right to score Jayson Werth. This gave the Nats a lead that they would never relinquish.

The best opportunity for the Braves came in the fourth, when the Braves loaded the bases with just one out. David Ross stepped to the plate and grounded into the most routine of 6-4-3 double plays. Then, in the fifth, Ankiel crushed an inside Jurrjens fastball into the upper deck for a homer reminiscent of the one that he hit into McCovey cove during the playoffs last year. The larger of Ankiel's two solo homers on the night gave the Nats a 3-1 lead. The Nats tacked on two more in the sixth, both of which would be charged to Jurrjens who exited without getting an out in the inning. Anthony Varvaro pitched two decent innings to keep the Braves in the game, and Scott Proctor even pitched a perfect eighth.

David Ross knocked a solo homer to left during the seventh inning, and Uggla refused to give up in the ninth against Drew Storen. Uggla homered again in the ninth to invoke hopes for a rally, making the game a 5-3 affair. Heyward got on base with one out but Alex Gonzalez grounded to short to force out Heyward at second and end the game.

The Nationals tied the season series at five games each with tonight's win. Freeman also extended his hitting streak tonight to 16 games. Tomorrow, Derek Lowe will face off against John Lannan at 7:05.

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win or lose, we all die as braves fans……but its really starting to make my stomach churn when i see alex gonzalez being ran out there every single frieking day batting 8th with his joke of a sub .200 average…..is this it? is this all were going to get out of this guy? hes put himself in a position where no braves fan can honestly say they still have faith in him. Hes become an automatic out when we need runs and im sick of it. tonight prime example….uggla hr….heyward hit…..i think ok, maybe we got a chance…ross works a count and strikes out….gonzalez first pitch swings into a out to end the game…..really?

by MarkDuce on Aug 1, 2011 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

people will think i'm crazy

BUTTTTT when September rolls around and the rosters expand I would love to see us try out Pastornicky at SS. He’s on fire in triple A and he cant do any worse than Gonzo. Just throwing that out there.

by Dwalk1217 on Aug 1, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Can’t be any worse

You won't always agree with me...Because sometimes you're wrong.

by JonnyBravesFan on Aug 1, 2011 10:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pastorincky's D is a liability

And he hits for average. Your gonna get a ton of singles out of him.

by Theo Williams on Aug 2, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

His BA is .232 and rising of late…he just can’t judge balls/strikes. I think it’s overly optimistic to think a 21 year old is the answer…

by TBuzz on Aug 1, 2011 10:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

A certain first baseman

would beg to differ.

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by abraves257 on Aug 2, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

But how many runs does he save the team with his defense? I find it hard to stay mad at the guy because he’s been spectacular this year at short. The offense’s struggles in key situations has been a team wide problem.

by CourtesyLaughs on Aug 1, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by HEYJUDE on Aug 2, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

looking

at the stats his defense is barely making up for his offense. Although i agree the offense is a team wide problem either Larry Parrish needs to earn his paycheck or be fired

by Erihury on Aug 2, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're gonna think about this and try again, okay?
single frieking day batting 8th with his joke of a sub .200 average

A) He didn’t hit 8th today.
B) His batting average is not sub .200
C, less important) Use spell check.

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by SuperNewb on Aug 1, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

only reason he wasnt batting 8th today is because stanza was in and .232 is nothing to jump around giddy over i might add…..if ur ok with gonzo in the lineup its because your not looking at the big picture…hes a liability and we wont do shit in the playoffs with him on the field…if u think otherwise, ur dilusional

by MarkDuce on Aug 1, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I R dilusional?

Is he a liability when Prado and Ross hit into DPs with men on base? The guy is struggling, but he is what he is…nobody here is surprised. Why are you going off anyway on a guy who made the last out in the 9th as if on THIS particular night it was a crime?

by TBuzz on Aug 1, 2011 11:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

saying an athlete “is what he is”….thats such crap……im going off on him because he just doesnt seem like he has the fire in him to get out of his slump hes in unlike uggla who has finally started to turn things around…….gonzalez looks content with his role and gets away with it because hes buried in the lineup.

by MarkDuce on Aug 1, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not in full agreement with you, but I do not fully disagree either.
gonzalez looks content with his role and gets away with it

with regards to that point, I believe this is explained by Fredi’s comments earlier in the season. Alex knows his spot in the lineup is safe because of his glove so he has no motivation to get better at the plate. When the guy responsible for you being in the lineup says a hit from you “is a bonus” then you really have no incentive to get better.

by Clemson Caniac on Aug 1, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say I was okay with him being in the lineup and I'm definitely not delusional...

I just think if you’re going to try to comment on the situation you should get the facts straight.

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by SuperNewb on Aug 1, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is it with Gonzo

He seems to hit it more RISP situations… It’s like every time we get someone on 2nd or 3rd, it’s his turn to hit. It’s kinda like last year with Nate Mclouth, where every rally was killed.

by ChoppingTalk on Aug 2, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of that is Freeman and Uggla streaking. When your 5th/6th place hitters are hot, your 7th/8th place hitters get RISP chances.

by Broccoman on Aug 2, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gonzales BA is .232

at least according to tonight’s box score. Of course, I don’t know what it has been lately. I certainly agree that he sucks lately. I also consider him an automatic out, and am happy if he does not hit into a DP.

That's the thing about baseball, no time clock. Anything is possible until the last out.

by BravesFaninAZ on Aug 2, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tough game.

Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.

by BravePhin on Aug 1, 2011 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

You were all wrong about Uggla...

You are wrong about Gonzo, too…just wait.

by TomahawkGuy on Aug 1, 2011 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think anybody on here actually thought Uggla wasn't going to pull out of his slump.

If they did, it’s news to me.
As for Gonzo… Look at his career, we’re not wrong about him.

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by SuperNewb on Aug 1, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much this

Uggla sucking is out of the norm for him. Gonzo NOT sucking at the plate is his unfamiliar territory. Personally I’m all for trying out Pastorincky some in September…even at a loss of a full win in defense from Sea Bass, it’s hard to imagine The Rev (yes, I made up a name for him) wouldn’t be a win better with the bat in 2012, with a whole fairly-high ceiling to extend into as he gets older. Sea Bass has hit his ceiling and is simply doing his best to stay off the floor right now.

by crimsonqueen9 on Aug 2, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps my expectations were too high

But Bourn was pretty invisible tonight. I didn’t notice any changes from the norm tonight and honestly nothing felt different. Perhaps if Prado’s AB went differently when Bourn ran in the first all this would be different. But to me I almost forgot we had him until he was announced before his ABs

by Clemson Caniac on Aug 1, 2011 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

You're expectations probably weren't too high.

It’s just that you’re letting the result of your expectation be based on one of 162 baseball games the Braves play this year.

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by SuperNewb on Aug 1, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did not mean to come off as second guessing the deal

Bourn was who I wanted for this ball club from the beginning. I believe I had wanted him for so long that now that he was wearing that tomahawk I was so excited for him to go 8 for 4 with 11 stolen bases that I was a little disappointed. I am very excited to see what he brings to this team for the remainder of the year and the following. The sky is the limit.

by Clemson Caniac on Aug 1, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is why I didn’t want Bourn in the first place. The guy had no impact at all tonight, but it’s only one game so things could change.

by Albert K on Aug 1, 2011 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

1 game should definitely be the way to make our judgements

its not like this game would have gone differently if zimmerman didn’t make that great catch or anything, your posts continue to be short-sided, uninformed, and to provide nothing of value. That being said it is your opinion, so go on.

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by austinhb on Aug 1, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It was

One way or the other.

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by Sam Jethroe on Aug 2, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joke no

Ignorant yes lol

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by HEYJUDE on Aug 2, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jonny Venters had no impact tonight! DFA him!

by Ivan the Great on Aug 2, 2011 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve noticed that is well. I have such high expectations for the guy, and did nothing. Seems like he has done nothing in several of the games this week. We need to get rid of him if he can’t help us every game. The bum.

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by Grantdawg on Aug 2, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

SMH @ Albert K. At least judge his play in a three or four game series. At least judge how the opposing catcher call a game when Bourn’s on base. Is that too much to ask? Bourn would be responsible for at least 1 or 2 called balls for the 2 & 3 hitters (that is if he’s on base).

by Philly Bravo on Aug 2, 2011 1:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Tonight's game was rather frustrating

All those double plays hit into by the Braves (and the one by Prado in the first is just plan bad luck) really killed any momentum that we had (and prolong the same frustration as Sunday’s game). JJ just hasn’t got the same results since the All-Star break and he needs to get back to a groove. I would be so happy to see the Braves score a run in a way other than via the homer.

The highlight of the game, to me at least, was the bullpen performances of Anthony Varvaro and (gasp!) Scott Proctor. As much as we don’t want Proctor to be in our roster, maybe he is still capable of making a turnaround.

by LEastCoastBears on Aug 1, 2011 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, I was surprised

that the wrap up above didn’t make more of Varvaro. Two innings pitched, four strikeouts?! Faced seven guys, 1-1 GB and FB?! One hit, no walks?! That is a pretty good line to me! This is something to be excited about!

That's the thing about baseball, no time clock. Anything is possible until the last out.

by BravesFaninAZ on Aug 2, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely! He (and Proctor) did a great job out of the BP last night.
In spite of the total lack of ability of this team to hit with RISP these days, at least our BP is still keeping us in ballgames.

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by NCChopper on Aug 2, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot

we were facing a Cy Young candidate

by Erihury on Aug 1, 2011 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Will someone please tell JJ that he should do a new photo session without the shell necklace. I understand the guy is from an island, but I can’t help but think of middle school every time I see his picture.

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by Chipper Pwns on Aug 1, 2011 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

When

I see him, I’ll be sure to tell him that you don’t approve of his necklace. lol

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by HEYJUDE on Aug 2, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

micahel bourn sucks…he didn’t score any runs…we got ripped off…rabble rabble rabble

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by SouthernPanther on Aug 1, 2011 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

DOOM!

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by Chipper Pwns on Aug 1, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol
Bourn was pretty invisible tonight. I didn’t notice any changes from the norm tonight and honestly nothing felt different.

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by HEYJUDE on Aug 2, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is not an individual player that needs to be blamed. The Braves, ever since the Nats new park was opened, have sucked soooo bad in DC. Somebody built the stadium out of Braves kryptonite.

The Pirates are not going to trade Andrew McCutchen - please stop suggesting this.

by Pavy848 on Aug 1, 2011 11:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

How

can all these teams throw so many Cy Young candidates at us its not fair damn it

by Erihury on Aug 1, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

argggggg!

Frustrating! Went to the game great braves crowd, but yet again no good with risp, phillies seriously how the hell does that constanly happen to them, they score so often in th 8th and 9th! Arggggggggggggggg

by supyoscn on Aug 1, 2011 11:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Dan Uggla has a 3.000 OPS in August

That is all

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by ATLandUNC on Aug 2, 2011 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

When he hit the second home run, I stood up in a crowded room and yelled “UGGLA SLAM!!” I am not ashamed.

by crimsonqueen9 on Aug 2, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the things you can get away with in this country

 just by being a woman…

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no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
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by abraves257 on Aug 2, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nor should you be. Go Braves!

That's the thing about baseball, no time clock. Anything is possible until the last out.

by BravesFaninAZ on Aug 2, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bourn

I know I’m late and nobody cares but I only sewhat like the Bourn move. Our troubles have been getting RISP in, not getting RISP. Maybe with a true leadoff hitter this will make Prado, Uggla, Freeman, etc better RBI guys. Let’s go get em tomorrow!!

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by Sir Veza on Aug 2, 2011 12:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

the new age of thinking (Sabremetrics)

tell us that there is no such thing as “RBI guys”. If there are “RBI guys” then Ryan Howard’s contract will not be deemed as that ridiculous. Odds are that things will even out for the Braves (and better yet if those RISP wins happens in September and October).

by LEastCoastBears on Aug 2, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even out?

Its a little late in the season to say, “it will even out”.

by JLudwick on Aug 2, 2011 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reading a few comments criticizing the trade based on ONE GAME reminds me of how fair-weathered sports fans actually are. And I love how people use one or two games to try to prove a point.

On another note, the wild card lead is dwindling. And with the number of games left, I think we should be watching the D-backs scores more than the Phillies scores.

by ryantex on Aug 2, 2011 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

boooooo

we can win the division

by Braves24 on Aug 2, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have to take care of what we can control - that is win our games.

Unfortunately we don’t so now we have to worry about the DBacks too.

by rubbles88 on Aug 2, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

This*

That's the thing about baseball, no time clock. Anything is possible until the last out.

by BravesFaninAZ on Aug 2, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to criticize the trade

however I will say that it would be very disappointing for Bourn to do his job as the leadoff man but for this team to continue struggling to get runners in. This team is DEAD LAST in the majors for sac flys. Frank Wren got us the best leadoff man available however it won’t do us any good if people dont drive him in. We should NOT need Chipper and McCann for runs to be driven in.

Part of me thinks that the Braves going through a bit of a slide would be good for them and a great wake up call. We are down to a 2.5 game lead in the Wild Card and 7 games back from the Phillies. This team needs a renewed focus and some fire back to their playing other wise we will be out of the post season picture.

by drumzalicious on Aug 2, 2011 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed.

The lack of production with RISP seems truly low. I wonder how low compared to others. The sac fly stat gives some indication.
Sigh, another double digit hit game, but all runs of of solo HRs. I guess the RISP wasn’t too bad tonight, however, only 0 for 3, which means we had some trouble getting people to second. Not good. Also, no walks. Highly unusual for the Braves.

That's the thing about baseball, no time clock. Anything is possible until the last out.

by BravesFaninAZ on Aug 2, 2011 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

TRADE BOURN FOR ANKIEL

hes obviously better

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by CoxXx on Aug 2, 2011 1:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I loved Ankiel

but apparently FW and I didn’t see eye to eye. I especially loved his arm. Oh well. BTW, I hope you are kidding.

That's the thing about baseball, no time clock. Anything is possible until the last out.

by BravesFaninAZ on Aug 2, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

F—k the Phillies

That’s all I have to say. LOSE DAMMIT

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by TonyAlmeyda on Aug 2, 2011 2:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Do some of you realize how fucking stupid you sound right now?

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by Scott Coleman on Aug 2, 2011 2:40 AM EDT reply actions  

They're Bourn that way.

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by J Tadpole on Aug 2, 2011 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

How many Duoble Plays Have The Braves Hit into This Year?

I wouldn’t be surprised if we had the most, or are in the top 5, should say bottom 5.

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by jimmontg on Aug 2, 2011 7:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Double

Senator, we have another old saying,"Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." Fletcher

by jimmontg on Aug 2, 2011 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Teams that decide not to play baseball when we need them to:

1) Rockies
2) Giants

It’s like everyone hates us so much they’d rather lose games than hold our opponents off a little bit.

by Ivan the Great on Aug 2, 2011 7:41 AM EDT reply actions  

^funny

Senator, we have another old saying,"Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." Fletcher

by jimmontg on Aug 2, 2011 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is where we need to re-acquire Infante.

Both positions would be covered, regardless of who happens to be sucking more at the time.

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Infante would be just as terrible to put in RF as Heyward is playing right now. Give me Heyward over infante in RF any day. But Infante at short, I’m okay with this.

The Pirates are not going to trade Andrew McCutchen - please stop suggesting this.

by Pavy848 on Aug 2, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So

adding Bourn didn’t fix all of our offensive problems?
/sarcasm, just figured I would pile on with the rest of them.
Honestly I like the guy and I think he will be a serious asset IF the people hitting behind him do what they are supposed to do. Just didnt happen last night.

by HeyMikey on Aug 2, 2011 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Chipper’s final solid 2 months needs to start Right. Now.

that would help.

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~
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

[correctiion…] 3 months

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

and Heyward, and Gonzalez. You can make up for a pitcher not having his best stuff. For what its worth, JJ kept us close. The only problem that needed fixing wasn’t just CF/leadoff, someone needs to light a fire under these guys.

by HeyMikey on Aug 2, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Overall, we're playing better than one might think...

Our last few series have been better than one might think..

Gnats – Won
Rockies – split
Reds – Lost
Pirates – split
Marlins – Won

But Phillie and Arizona keep winning. We need Chipper back. And we need Infante alternating between RF and SS.

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol, didn’t mean to type ‘OMT’ twice. it’s early

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~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

We are 4-6 in our last 10, not good any way you look at it.

by HeyMikey on Aug 2, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

definitely been a rough patch.

it still helps that we haven’t lost more than 3 in a row all year.

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~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The WC is ours to lose.

We need to get Infante to play SS. Even Alex’s D is slipping. Honestly, that would probably put us over the edge.

Winning this series will be easier said than done. We’ve got to stop rolling over for these guys. Ross homers, but at the wrong time. And Jurrjens is pulling a Ubaldo.

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

ATTN: Jacob

I’m sure you’re chock full of good ideas for your fanposts, but how about one on the hitting abilities (or lack thereof) of pitching staffs in the NL? I’m thinking maybe a spider plot showing how they compare to average. Its probably confirmation bias, but I have a suspicion we have some of the most pathetic hitting pitchers anywhere to be found. Lowe does ok, and Tim had a HR, but other than that, suck is my predicition.

by fphjr01 on Aug 2, 2011 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t believe any team in baseball gives up more hits to opposing pitchers than we do.
Or, maybe it just seems that way.

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by NCChopper on Aug 2, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

We’re past Livan, now.

Hopefully we man up and take the next 2.

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully we man up and take the next 2 63.

FTFY

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by TonyAlmeyda on Aug 2, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick check on my own...

Braves pitching staff as a whole, rank in NL (higher is better):

BB% – 10th
K% – 7th
ISO – 3rd
BABIP – 12th
wOBA – 11th
WAR – 9th

So down there, but at least not at the bottom. Pittsburgh seemed to be bringing up the rear in almost every catagory. It was interesting to see that some of our relievers with 0-for-the-season in just a few at bats were still doing better in terms of WAR than Tommy Hanson. Honestly, I think he’s better off just standing at the plate and taking 3 pitches and then going back to sit down and grab a drink. Proposed new rule: he only gets to actually swing the bat if no one is on base or there are two outs.

by fphjr01 on Aug 2, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Digging a little deeper, not that anyone's reading...

The Braves’ pitchers have the 2nd highest (out of first by 0.01) leverage index per plate appearance — this is probably why it seems (at least to me) they are so bad. The pitcher’s spot is coming up in important situations more often than all but one team in the NL. Consequently, we have (by a good margin) the lowest -WPA (sum of all negative WPA plays, like bunting into a double play), AND the highest +WPA (sum of all positive WPA plays, like D Lowe gets a RBI double). The result is a mid-pack total WPA.

by fphjr01 on Aug 2, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question. Is my concern for J.J. unfounded?

Last 4 starts he’s allowed 16 ER’s, 6 by the long ball. The 6 starts prior to that he’s allowed 9 ER’s & only 2 by HR.

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by adc62 on Aug 2, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope he’s not “pulling a Ubaldo”….

However, I’m pretty sure that even right now, Halladay only has 1 more win.

The Gnats have gotten in our heads. Ankiel hitting 2 homers……….. Not commonplace.

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is just the beginning.

Even with his last few bad starts his ERA/xFIP differential is still -1.26. And his BABIP remains pretty low at .263.

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by Scott Coleman on Aug 2, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I HATE WHEN WE PLAY THE NATIONALS.....

It seems like everytime we play the Nats they find a way to kick our ass or make the game really interesting. The guys at the bottom of our lineup need to get their head out their ass, i.e. Gonzo!!! I can’t wait for Pastornicky to take his place.

Gonzo is as an automatic out just about everytime. Right now I would rather see Hudson or Lowe take a swing instead of Gonzo. Does anyone agree?

by CaliforniaBrave on Aug 2, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I concur. I also think that Fredi should look into platooning Hinske/Constanza/McLouth (when he returns) in left and put the guy with many talents at short. Alex would be fine off the bench…just prepare to hit fastballs in the late inning.

by Philly Bravo on Aug 2, 2011 1:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Absolutely agree with platoonig all three of those guys. I would prefer Hinske and Constanza. I’ve lost all faith in McLouth. I really like Gonzo for a while because I know he’s a streaky hitter, but lately his streak is grounder to short and double plays. “HIT THE BALL TO RIGHT FIELD” is what LP should be yelling at him.

by CaliforniaBrave on Aug 2, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

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