Braves vs. Rockies - Series Recap
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 3:42 PM EDT
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PrintSo I was thinking about it, and I think that was arguably the most frustrating series of the year. Why? Because the Rockies are a good team, and maybe even a great team at home, and we had a good chance to win every game. As you know, we came up short all three times. Combine that with yesterday probably being the worst game I've watched since the meltdown in Philly last season and you have a pretty bad series.
Game 1 Recap
Game 2 Recap
Game 3 "Recap"
The Good:
1. The Phillies fail at home - If it was the beginning of the week and I told you the Braves would be swept and the Phillies would be playing the Astros at home, what do you think would be the outcome would be in the standings? I'm guessing you'd say we wouldn't be in 1st place anymore. The Astros showed up to play, and are just a few outs away from a 4-game sweep. So we get swept, and we could possibly gain 0.5 games in the standings? Sweet.
2. Jason Heyward - 5-for-12, 3 BB, 2B, 3B; Welcome back, Jason.
3. Alex Gonzalez - 4-for-11, 2B, 4 RBI; Not many hitters showed up on Monday or Tuesday, but Gonzo did. Combine that with his solid defense in the entire series and he continues to be an improvement over Escobar.
4. Brian McCann - 6-for-10, 2B, 2 RBI; BMac also threw Carlos Gonzalez out in the 8th inning on Monday, but the umpire missed the call. It would've been a huge play from Heap, but the umpires wouldn't have any of it.
5. Martin Prado - 4-for-13, 2B, HR, 5 RBI; another fine series from Martin since breaking his knuckle.
The Bad:
1. The Bullpen - 6.2IP, 11H, 8R, 6BB, 8K; That's disgusting.
2. Derrek Lee - 2-for-13, 2 RBI, 5K; It's been a week now, and I'm not very impressed with Mr. Lee. Hopefully some home cookin' in Atlanta will heat his bat up. If not, well, maybe Troy gets his old job back once he comes off the DL.
3. Jair Jurrjens - 5.1IP, 5H, 7ER, 2BB, 4K; Not only is the line ugly, but he was given an enormous lead to protect and he blew it. I'm starting to think we should skip his starts on the road whenever we can. He's just not the same pitcher away from The Ted.
4. 9th Inning Umpiring - Apparently, Houston Street gets any pitch within a foot of the strike zone called a strike. Maybe it's the stupid Six Flags music they play during the ABs, or maybe it's the fat Dinosaur they have behind the plate, but the homeplate umpire's zone was huge for Street in both games.
5. Melky Cabrera - 1-for-9, 1RBI; basically a non-factor in any of the three games.
What's Next:
The Braves will host the Florida Marlins in Atlanta for a 3-game series. Thank heaven for The Ted. It looks like it'll be Volstad vs. Hanson in Game 1, Nolasco vs. Hudson in Game 2, and Josh Johnson (gulp.) vs. Derek Lowe (LOL) in game 3.
Go Braves!
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Nice job with the justinbait
Cue 900 post argument in 3, 2, 1….
:)
it’s a slow day…
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
So I wasn't the only one who saw that...
Headlining the Campaign for the return of Ryan Langerhans! MVP 2011!
by RichmondBraves on Aug 26, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
Why is this justinbait?
I hate the Phillies so much...
by frozendesert on Aug 26, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
comment about gonzalez.
moreso the mention of yunel
Headlining the Campaign for the return of Ryan Langerhans! MVP 2011!
by RichmondBraves on Aug 26, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s funny. I thought it was both that and mentioning Melky as a “non-factor.” Which he pretty much was last series as well.
by J-Freak on Aug 26, 2010 4:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know a lot of people on TC like him, but I personally can’t stand him.
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you all the way. But I think every single time I’ve voiced that opinion I’ve been justinbombed. “He’s the reason we’re in first place!”
by J-Freak on Aug 26, 2010 4:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
melky was a factor
a negative one. first pitch outs suck.
MASN Announcer: "Ususally they have what they call here 'the privilege,' and that's what bobby cox calls it when he let's the veteran guys swing away on 3-0. This is not such a hitter."
Jason Heyward: Single up the middle, ballgame.
You mean the younger, more cost-controlled
version of Gonzalez sans the 17 home runs hit in an AL hitter friendly park?
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
Team controlled, sure, but not cost-controlled after this season.
No one knows what Yunel will get in arbitration, but it’s no longer going to be near league minimum.
In his first year of arbitration after last season, Ryan Theriot lost his arbitration hearing and still got paid more than Gonzalez will be paid in 2011 with the option the Braves will probably accept. Theriot had worse numbers at the same position, lower WAR, etc., so you have to figure Escobar’s going to be making some money next season.
Start adding up Yunel’s arbitration raises over the next three years, and the value proposition isn’t such a great argument if he continues at his current clip. If he turns it around, he might be worth what he’ll get paid, but probably not much more than that.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Aug 26, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
His last two weeks are ugly
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=escobyu01&year=2010&t=b
"We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
Is this the first time all year...
the bullpen has been in the “Bad” section?
Avalanche fan stuck in Penguin territory.
I was thinking, and I can’t remember any other series. Maybe for the White Sox.
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Bottom of the 9th
Get 3 outs Astros.
Official MCM Hater!
"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"
ugh
2 guys on. End this shit.
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
SWEEEEEP!
Who would have thought the Astros could win 4 straight IN Philly?
by Southern IN Chopper on Aug 26, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Alterraun Verner!
"All I'm asking for is what I want."
-Rickey Henderson
by VivaLosBravos on Aug 26, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet Verner could have beaten the Rockies
Official MCM Hater!
"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"
This is unbelievable!
The Phillies were sweep in Philly by the Astros!!! WOW!!! You never know in baseball though but dang swept IN PHILLY WOW again! Big, big help 4 the Braves.
We get swept
and we still gain .5 game on the phils. That is how scary good the Braves are.
"Lololololololololololololol" - Tim Hudson
Troy Glaus
He won’t get his job back once he comes off the DL. That is Derrek Lee’s job now. Glaus might make a spot start there each week, but it is no longer his job.
Thank
Goodness.
I hate the Phillies so much...
by frozendesert on Aug 26, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
His damnedest isn't nearly good enough
by king of games on Aug 26, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s been terrible on defense in his first two games. Not even bad, but awful.
by king of games on Aug 26, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point, I’de rather see Freeman at 3rd than Glaus.
by king of games on Aug 26, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
to be fair
the manager in AAA did make a good point in that we shouldnt have expected him to be re-acquainted with the position over night.
He seems to have been solid over there this week. We will see how he does the next few days
by drumzalicious on Aug 27, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
if its not his job
it wouldnt be because of his bat but more so his knees. as of right now i would be more than willing to give Glaus another shot at 1B the way he is hitting in AAA.
by drumzalicious on Aug 27, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I heard he was gonna be moved to 3rd. Do not want to see him there though...
God typed "iddqd" before creating Jason Heyward.
SWEEEEEEEP!
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
And Carlos Ruiz,
the second-best catcher in the NL, behind Yadier Molina, flies out to end the game!
I hate the Phillies so much...
wait...
what?
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
by Jurrjens' Surgeons on Aug 26, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
that’s funny.
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
is that you, joe morgan?
MASN Announcer: "Ususally they have what they call here 'the privilege,' and that's what bobby cox calls it when he let's the veteran guys swing away on 3-0. This is not such a hitter."
Jason Heyward: Single up the middle, ballgame.
BLASPHEMY!!!
The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.
Coors Field seems to inflict some sort of hex on visiting bullpens.
The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.
In addition, Jurrjens actually pitched well in his two road starts prior to this one, so it’s not like he struggles in every road start.
Now that the 2.5 game curse is broken, it’s time to lay the smackdown on everyone the rest of the way!
The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.
A few comments
Yesterday’s loss was terrible, but we up by 3 games, and today’s Phillies loss puts everything in a slightly better light.
Despite the loss yesterday, our chances of going to the playoffs actually went UP by 0.34%. Doesn’t really mean anything, but that also makes me feel a little better. Before today’s game, the Phillies’ playoffs chances were 35%. They have seen a 23.9% drop in the past 7 days. Must feel frustrating for them to reel off 20 wins in 20 games, and still be in the position they are in.
that would be
his arbitrary one good 15 million dollar start. Like opening day last year against the Phillies
by drumzalicious on Aug 27, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Coming back home to play the Marlins
after getting swept and still 3 games up while the phillies get to go deal with SD’s pitching staff….awesome,
As it stands right now
The Phillies are not in the playoffs…..I love how that sounds
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
If we maintain this lead the Phails would have to sweep one series from us and win the other.
by king of games on Aug 26, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
and this week is the perfect reminder that anything can happen,
but I like this weekend’s chances with us against the Fish in Atlanta and the Phails going to San Diego to face a hot Padres club.
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure who to root for
I want the Phils to miss the playoffs, but I really want home field through the NLCS.
by king of games on Aug 26, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm rotting for the Padres
Even if they sweep the Phils we still have time to catch them.
We gotta make it first. Go Padres.
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just gonna say that
I love the fact that we play a Marlins team less Ross and Cantu, and they are playing a very good Padres team that has arguably some of the best pitching in the league, lets just hope Adrian plays better against the Phils than he did against us!
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
it will come down to the last game of the season
if we win, we will win game 7 of the world series
(vs. the Yankees)
the good news is
we´re swept and even gain .5 game lead, but, that isnt all.
Also, it means that there´re fewer games to play and more games lead
I hate that stupid thing..
..with an unreasonable hatred.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Just for Shiggles
So far, Alex Gonzalez has played 38 games for the Braves and Yunel Escobar has played 33 games for the Blue Jays.
AG’s stat line v. Yunel’s:
138 AB, 18 R, 10 2B, 2 3B, 4 HR, 22 RBI, 64 TB, 10 BB, 25 K, .342 OBP, .464 SLG, .275 AVG, 127 A, 7 E, 27 DP, .963 FPCT
136 AB, 18 R, 6 2B, 0 3B, 3 HR, 12 RBI, 54 TB, 9 BB, 17 K, .340 OBP, .397 SLG, .287 AVG, 91 A, 4 E, 20 DP, .974 FPCT
Plus he’s already starting to bug some Toronto players in the clubhouse.
by king of games on Aug 26, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
link?
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll 2nd that
request for the link…would love to read that article.
by Southern IN Chopper on Aug 26, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
that it was sarcasm.
I hate the Phillies so much...
by frozendesert on Aug 26, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
or a joke.
I hate the Phillies so much...
by frozendesert on Aug 26, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I also rember reading some teammate quotes regarding this ejection that didn’t seem overly supportive, but still looking for those.
by king of games on Aug 26, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
and that’s with Esco playing in one of the best hitter’s parks in baseball, and Gonzo playing in one of the better pitcher’s parks in baseball.
"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."
"Oh man am I a woman?!"
by Scott Coleman on Aug 26, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i would be interested in seeing Gonzalez’ home/away splits since coming to Atlanta…it seems like most of his power is on the road. I may be very wrong on that…that just seems to be the case.
by forgotten_glory on Aug 26, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't figure away without finding out how he did during Interleague...
But his slash line at Turner Field is .303/.368/.474/.842. That’s better in his ATL totals in all respects, and better than his totals for the season except SLUG (.487 in 2010 v. .474 at Turner Field).
He’s had 2 HR, 2 triples, and 3 doubles at Turner Field thus far. He tends to hit more doubles on the road, but all his triples and half his HRs came at home.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
i hear some people complain about Gonzalez defense
if we analice those number.
Gonzalez FPCT = .963 vs .974 of Escobar
That means that Gonzalez made 3.7 errors per 100 plays and Escobar 2.6 errors per 100 plays.
but Gonzalez had turned 7 more DP and had made 36 more assist.
To make a better conclusion we need more data, like how were those errors
I don’t think I want to know what analice are….
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
hahaha, I was thinking the same thing. I think they make a spray or a powder for that.
"If I’m batting behind him (Heyward), I tell the umpire, ‘Will you please check that ball,’" Diaz said. "And he’d be like, ‘It didn’t hit the dirt.’ And I’d go, ‘It might be flat.’ He hits the ball so stinking hard."
Also...
Most of those errors came in one week (or it felt like that)…
"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones
I think this is another reason we should all hold off our Judgment of the D. Lee trade….this guy was on fire right before we traded for him, he JUST got back from a back injury and had some trouble catching up to some fastballs, but I don’t think 10 games is enough to start placing a grade on this trade, I have a strong feeling he is going to catch fire once again. A. Gonz didn’t start producing for us right away either.
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
cause I know..
…Gonzalez has more strikeouts, but I bet he was less GIDPs
Wait, what? Phils lost and we didn’t lose? Didn ’t get rained out? Baseball Gods, you confuse me!
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Aug 26, 2010 4:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
2.5 games lead curse is over
it´s time to take more advantage
I just worry about the flip side of that coin. Wouldn’t mind riding out a 2.5 game advantage till there’s only two games left.
by J-Freak on Aug 26, 2010 4:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2010 is going to come down to game 159-162
with the season as crazy as it is (All the second places in the each NL division have a legit shot at the Wild Card), this season will come down to the last week. It’s just that simple. No lead is safe and every series is big. Let’s take two of three from the Fish and forget Colorado ever happened. Go Bravos!
by romone_braves91 on Aug 26, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
I'm going to Game 160
Hopefully they clinch it then, but i won’t cry if they do so before then.
Coming soon: winningugly visits Atlanta, takes dump in royhobbs’ Braves hat.
Someone earlier said that they were hoping the Phillies wouldn’t know what to do because we don’t have a game today and that they would fail because of it. Looks like he/she got their wish.
"Chase Utley can't polish Martin's shoes right now" Joe Simpson
by sleezer1788 on Aug 26, 2010 5:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
oh, I think this was me.
I at least thought something similar to this, and I seem to remember forming that out into words.
So yay me! I hope they keep “phailing” against the Padres this weekend, too.
Yes, yay you!
I’m nominating you for Offficial Braves Oracle. Keep up the good work.
I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. ~ Crash Davis
by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 27, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Unrelated....
….but Freddie Freeman is having an eerily similar season to his 2008 season, just had a higher level….
2008:
.316 AVG
.378 OBP
.521 SLG
.899 OPS
18 HR
95 RBI
5 SB
46 BB
84 K’s
2010:
.317 AVG
.378 OBP
.522 SLG
.900 OPS
17 HR
83 RBI
6 SB
43 BB
82 K’s
So we have no choice but to assume that those will be his 2011 numbers in the bigs.
ya alright
you expect him to put up those numbers in the bigs? you must be crazy.
Don’t you know that there are 162 games in the bigs? I expect at least 20 HR’ s and 110 RBI’s over a full season. You need to get with the program.
by Jaymin Patel on Aug 26, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there any way I can find his lefty/righty splits?
I don’t think baseball-reference shows them for minor leaguers.
by Undocorkscrew on Aug 26, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/
2010 splits
vs. LHP: 0.287 0.331 0.454 0.785
vs. RHP: 0.320 0.388 0.534 0.922
not bad, not bad at all
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Aug 26, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He hits lefties better than most of our RH hitters
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
don´t forget he is in top 5 in some hitting categories in IL
3rd AVG
6th OBP
3rd SLG
3rd OPS
3rd RBI
4rd R
1st H
2nd 2B
1st TB
considering that FF is 20 years old and the only guy low than 25 years old above him in some of these hitting stats is Desmong Jennings, who is 3rd in Runs Scored
get er done at home
the series with the rockies was the worst i’ve watched this season,especially the last game. it looked to me and the fellows i watch the game with that jj stopped pitching and just started throwing. once the rox got the big MO in their favor the game was theirs. the braves better get their collective heads out of their asses and start playing like they want to play in the post-season or they can watch it on t.v. GO BRAVES!
Positives from this series:
1. The Phailes (i’m proud of this nickname)
2. Jason is Back (and Prado, just for good measure)
3. Freeman has apparently already won Rookie of the Year for next season with an estimated .900 OPS
4. We almost won 2 of three at coors field. ( i know this is a strech)
5. Go Braves!
1. Please don’t tell me you think you thought of that
3. Except we all KNEW JHey was going to win RotY at the beginning of 2010 and that looks unlikely now.
4. Right…
5. Yes
Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Colts, Hoyas, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
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ROY for Jason
is not out of the picture. If he has a monster September, helping us make it into the playoffs, I say he would be the favorite.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
big weekend ahead
I think the pitching matchups favor us Friday and Saturday nights, not so much Sunday. We can’t allow the epic fail Wednesday in Denver to beat us more than once. We need to get some early run support for Hanson and Huddy, and let them do their thing, and I’m confident that we win the series. The Phillies have a tough series in San Diego, so there is potential to gain some ground in the standings if things go our way.
ROBOT HEYWARD: TEAM PHILLIES APPEAR TO BE LOSING EVERY GAME IN WHICH TEAM BRAVES LOSE. NEW STRATEGY: START KAWAKAMI, KENSHIN IN REMAINING 35 GAMES
It's just sad to think...
If we’d won even one of those games we could be up 4 right now, that’d be huge.
Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Colts, Hoyas, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
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Glass half full....
You have to look at the positives and how this all shaped up….we got swept by the Rox at Coors field (not a HUGE surprise)…the Phillies got swept in a 4 game series to the ASTROS at HOME!! I love the way this all worked out, and I’ll take it anyday!
"A good friend of mine used to say, This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Think about that for a while." - Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
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