Glaus' Big Day Leads Braves to 7-3 Victory, Winning Road Trip
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 13, 2010 5:51 PM EDT
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PrintIt all clicked for the Braves today. They got great pitching Kris Medlen. Even better, they got great hitting from the start, making Twins starter Kevin Slowey--a good pitcher--look like a minor-league journeyman. The Braves got 16 hits in all, and limited the Twins to only 4 hits.
The Braves wasted no time getting on the board. In the first inning, Brooks Conrad laced a 1-out single to right. Jason Heyward followed with a broken-bat double that carried nearly to the warning track (the kid is strong!). After a Brian McCann walk, Troy Glaus followed with an RBI single to make it 2-0. Eric Hinske then roped a double off the high right-field wall (it would've been a homer in some parks), scoring McCann. When the throw back to the infield got away from the Twins, Glaus scampered home to make it 4-0.
After that, the Braves basically cruised. They picked up runs on 3 solo homers--by Prado in the 2nd, by Glaus in the 5th, and by Glaus again in the 7th. Slowey was pulled after Glaus' first bomb, and ended with a line of 4.2 IP, 9 H, 6 R (5 ER), 2 HR, 6 K, 1 BB, and a -0.305 WPA.
Medlen did not allow a hit until the 5th inning--a 1-hit double by Jason Kubel--and took a 1-out shutout into the 7th. With the Braves up comfortably all day, he simply pounded the strike zone. On the day, he had exactly 3 times as many strikes as balls--69 strikes, 23 balls. The only blemish was a 3-run homer by Delmon Young in the 7th. To his credit, though, Meds went out and pitched a perfect 8th after the homer. His final line was 8 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 1 HR, 5 K, 1 BB, and a 0.190 WPA.
Jonny Venters pitched around a leadoff walk in the 9th to close out the game in a non-save situation.
This was a very impressive game and series for the Braves. They looked a bit disjointed at times during the D'backs series but played extremely well in this one. Were it not for a couple infield hits against Tim Hudson, we might have even swept. Winning a road series at the end of an 11-game trip with no off-days is good enough, but doing it against a 1st-place AL team is even more impressive.
Another tough test awaits starting Tuesday, as the best-in-MLB Rays come to Atlanta. Luckily, we get a day off before that series to regroup and rest our many nagging injuries.
Awards after the jump.
Awards
MVPs
Medlen (stat line above)
Glaus-- 4/5, 2 HR, 3 R, 3 RBI, 0.130 WPA
Honorable Mentions
Hinske-- 2/5, 2 2B, RBI, K, 0.122 WPA
Martin Prado-- 3/4, BB, HR, R, RBI, 0.045 WPA
Heyward-- 2/5, 2B, R, RBI, CS, 2 K, 0.074 WPA
LVP
Slowey (stat line above)
MVP in a Losing Effort
Delmon Young, I guess-- 1/3, HR, R, 3 RBI, 0.006 WPA. No Twin had a WPA higher than 0.025 today.
Clutch Play
Hinske's RBI double / Punto error on the throw (0.135 WPA)
Unclutch Play
None, really. Big early leads means not much opportunity for low WPA. The worst was only -0.030, for Yunel Escobar failing to get a runner home from 3B with one out in the 1st.
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Great Series
Should Meds stay in the rotation when JJ comes back? (I don’t know anymore) New season and same surplus of pitching. I love this team. Let’s take two from the Rays. Go Braves!
by romone_braves91 on Jun 13, 2010 6:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Who knows…Medlen, Kawakami. Jurrjens and Resop should all be on the ML club in a couple of weeks, only 2 can be starters. Good problem to have, but a problem just the same. With Saito, Dunn, Proctor, Marek, Kimbrel, Martinez, Chavez, EOF, Moylan, Wagner and Venters we have 14 pitchers for 9 slots.
Is it time for Wren to start asking clubs if they need a pitcher or two?
Heyward is pretty good
if we could get one more big OF bat
for some of our pitchers, i think it would solidify us as the team to beat in the NL
i wouldn't consider Chavez, proctor and Martinez in that group with the rest
our bullpen should be Wagner, Saito, Moylan, EOF, Venters, Medlen and Resop once JJ and Saito come back.
Dunn, Kimbrel and Marek can still work it in the minors
by Jaymin Patel on Jun 13, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been back and forth on the trading of a pitcher
If we can get a seriously legit blue chip prospect or two or an impact OF bat for Jurrjens then I say we just keep our depth because if anything the Jurrjens and Saito injuries shows us why we need depth so we don’t skip a beat.
Once everyone is healthy here in few weeks we should look like this:
Hudson
Hanson
Jurrjens
Lowe
Kawakami
CL Wagner
SU Saito
MR Moylan
MR O’Flaherty
MR Medlen
LR Venters
LR Resop
MLB ready depth in the wings in the minors:
Kimbrel
Dunn
Chavez
Proctor
Redmond
Marek
That is the kind of depth at the MLB level and MiLB level that can carry a team all season.
Proctor
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
Meds
has got to stay in the rotation. what else would you have him do to earn the starting spot over KK????
by NewAgeDirtyBirdFan on Jun 13, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
KK has pitched better than his line but Medlen getting the bump back to the pen is almost unarguably not the best thing for the team in terms of chances to win games. Philosophy be damned….having a $7M arm in long relief is better for the team’s chances so it has to be done. Damn it.
by crimsonqueen9 on Jun 13, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
…is almost unarguably not the best thing for the team in terms of chances to win games.
Kawakami’s last five starts:
2.90 ERA
1.26 WHIP
6.1 K/9
Medlen’s last five starts:
3.94 ERA
1.13 WHIP
5.1 K/9
Unless you think that the team has a pact against scoring when Kawakami pitches I would say you aren’t nearly as right as you think you are.
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
+1
Thank you for the stats. That pretty well backs up one of the things I am trying to say.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 13, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
KK does lead the league in one thing
Number of THUMBS DOWN
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 13, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Whammy. Wins and Loses shouldn’t be the sole indicator of pitching efficiency.
[only built for cuban linx]
by Mighty Healthy on Jun 13, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Or any indicator of pitching efficiency. Its a lazy stat that tells almost nothing about the pitcher. Whats worse is that the media shoves it down the throats of the masses and they buy it.
It drives me crazy.
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
by bbxxj on Jun 13, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
word.
[only built for cuban linx]
by Mighty Healthy on Jun 13, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Your statement is fundamentally wrong.
Meds might—and I emphasize might—be the better starter right now. Honestly, KK has done just about as well since Medlen joined the rotation. But here’s the difference—Medlen is young and we need to protect his arm. We can’t afford to just think about 2010 here.
Even more importantly, Medlen has proven he can be an excellent set-up pitcher already. KK has not. So we know that moving Meds back to the bullpen will work. KK is not nearly as likely to be a shutdown reliever. Thus, KK’s value is maximized by putting him in the rotation. Medlen, to me, is nearly as valuable in the ’pen as in the rotation, given the shakiness of our RH relievers at the moment.
Thus, moving Medlen to the bullpen is pretty clearly the wiser choice, both now and in the long run. Of course, if you wanted to argue that we should move Lowe to the bullpen instead, then I’d listen.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 13, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention that the Braves will have two really good guys capable of long relief
in Venters and Medlen rather than….Chavez.
by DogDaysofSummer on Jun 13, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t like that last statement, that it’s best in the long run to move medlen to the bullpen. Medlen has proven that he can be a very good starter and that’s where his value is maximized. As far as this season, I might be inclined to agree with you seeing the stats above, but medlen is absolutely a huge part of the rotation going forward.
we don’t know that KK can dominate in the pen. Med can. Right now… Meds and KK have been performing about equally well.
by Braves Biceps on Jun 14, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I was referring to this season.
Sorry if that was unclear. Of course Meds is a starter long-term.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 14, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
BACK IN MY DAY WE THREW 2000 PITCHES EVERY SINGLE DAY
GOING UPHILL BOTH WAYS
by DogDaysofSummer on Jun 13, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
What else does KK have to do to earn everyone’s respect? The dude is a fan-damn-tastic pitcher.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 14, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Among 113 qualified starting pitchers. Kawakami is ranked 75 in FIP (4.35), 79 in xFIP (4.57), 69 in ERA (4.48) and 88 in WAR (0.7)
If we correct for league (American League pitchers allow 3.65% more runs than National League pitchers approx.) Then he is like number 80 to 85 in the list.
That’s below average. He is between a 4th and a 5th starter.
Fantastic is top 10 (Adam Wainright, Jon Lester, Cliff Lee)
Or top 20 (Justin Verlander, Yovani Gallardo, Roy Oswalt)
Even top 30 (Tommy Hanson, Clayton Kershaw, Dan Haren)
Kawakami is not a fantastic pitcher. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t have any value either. I think he is serviciable.
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Jun 14, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Algebra genius must have not been good at math...
“That’s below average. He is between a 4th and a 5th starter.”
If he is in the 80s amongst all starting pitchers, 30 teams in the league, that would put him squarely amongst 3rd starters. You see, with 30 teams, that puts 1-30 as #1s, 31-60 as #2s, 61-90 as #3s, and so on. KK being “like number 80 to 85” would mean he’s in the crowd with 3s, not between a 4th and 5th.
We are talking about qualified starters.
For example Kris Medlen isn’t in that list. There are others who are not qualified who are better and others who are worse.
The point is, he is not a FANTASTIC pitcher. He is a serviciable starter.
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Jun 14, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
There aren't that many like Medlen...
if any at all who have filled in as an injury replacement and been better. Maybe a prospect or two, like Strasburg. But your own math disagrees with what you say, KK is a decent starter and good enough to be a #3 or at worst #4 for almost every playoff contender.
Marek is not doing well in AAA, Martinez has never done well in AAA, Chavez is not a good pitcher and Proctor is coming from surgery and isn’t doing well in AAA either.
So the bullpen should be: Wagner, Saito (when healthy), EOF, Venters, Moylan, Resop, Kawakami (when Jurjens comes back).
Kimbrel and Dunn should work in their control in AAA. They are young, they are not needed yet.
Medlen is the young pitcher with upside, he should be the one starting.
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Jun 14, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting that Proctor isn’t doing well at AAA, he’s been in EST in Orlando for a month and a half and was sent to Myrtle Beach last week. I’ve been pretty impressed with Martinez the 2 times I’ve seen him pitch, he gave up a HR, but maintained composure and finished the inning. Most of these pitchers are " young pitchers with upside", Pac is right, don’t blow out his arm by increasing his innings in one season. Medlen pitched 105 innings last year, plus about a month in AAA, so 125-130 total. He’s already at about 55 IP, if he stays a starter he’s looking at 180+IP this year. I don’t think we want to shut down a starter in mid September. Conserve Meds, there could be more DL’s in the next 4 months.
Heyward is pretty good
Ok, Proctor isn’t pitching in AAA now. When he did, he didn’t pitch that good.
Let’s see what has he done in the big leagues before.
2007 with NYY and LA: 5.23 FIP 5.34 tRA
2008 with LA: 5.03 FIP 5.23 tRA.
The guy is a bad reliever. Don’t count with the guy.
About Martinez. He is 28, so he is not exactly young. Second, Dunn, Kimbrel, and Resop are better. He shouldn’t be in the roster.
About Medlen. He has pitched just 61 innings. Just put a limit and when he is reaching it, then he should be removed from the rotation and put in the bullpen.
Pitchers should be protected, but not overprotected. Injuries are part of the game and it can happen to anybody.
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Jun 14, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting theory...
except Proctor hasn’t been in AAA since early April rehabbing himself back to full strength in extended spring and now Myrtle.
And Marek isn’t doing well in AAA? He struggled last year, but this year the man has been pretty damn good.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=marek-001ste
by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 14, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
According to that Baseball Reference link you posted
Stephen Marek has the following stats in AAA in 13.1 innings:
4.7 BB/9 (Bad) 5.4 K/9 (Bad) 9.4 H/9 (Bad) 1.575 WHIP (Bad) 2.02 ERA (Good)
So, you are basically evaluating a pitcher with ERA.
His FIP is a good but not great (specially for a AAA reliever) 3.58. And his tRA is a horrible 6.55.
What’s exactly good about this guy? Could you elaborate?
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Jun 14, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
How is a 5K/9 bad?
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 14, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Among 113 qualifying starting pitchers in the majors there are 3 pitchers with a 5.4 K/9.
Their rankings? 84. Dallas Braden, 85. Brian Bannister, 86. and Jon Garland
The half of 113 is 52.5. That means they are in the bottom half in the category.
Marek 1. is a reliever. 2. is in AAA, so he probably will K less batters if he pitches in the majors. So he is well below average in K/9.
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Jun 14, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
SSS...
I didn’t say I’m sold on the guy, but he’s had some quality outings. He dominated AA, and I’m interested to see his numbers at the end of the year. As you said yourself, “His FIP is a good but not great”, so by your own words, he’s been “good”. Maybe you can elaborate for yourself.
If he pitches in AAA like he did in AA this year
Then he should be considered. Prior to his AA stint this year, he has been an above average, but not a fantastic reliever.
If a guy can’t be great in the minors then in the majors he will be mediocre at best.
Also Dunn, Kimbrel and Resop are ahead in the list. So, he should work in AAA until he is ready for the bigs.
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Jun 14, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He is doing badly now. He is still a good prospect who should get a chance.
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Jun 14, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I say
we keep Meds in the rotation and deal Kawakami. Lowe would be the ideal canidate but we know that isnt happening.
Resop can be promoted to take what used to be Medlen’s spot in the bullpen and could give us depth in the starter category as well.
A few teams we could look at are
Tigers
Cardinals
Dodgers
Medlen has shown us before that he only gets better over the course of a season as a starter and he has even stated in interviews that the fact that you are throwing every few days as a starter keeps your stuff fresh. Im not saying Kawakami is a bad pitcher just that I prefer Medlen and i believe we could get a decent return on Kawakami especially if we packaged him with a reliever to a team that needs both SP and RP.
by drumzalicious on Jun 13, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Kawakami, Melky, and Cody Johnson for Austin Jackson and Ordonez
by drumzalicious on Jun 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wouldn’t Medlen have more trade value than KK?
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 14, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
it's official: venters is the new moylan
somewhere, moylan is crying in a corner, wondering why he doesn’t get 9 appearances in 14 days like lil’ johnny
Moylan and Scott Proctor should start a "used and abused" club.
Oh Proctor, why did you have to impress Joe Torre?
by DogDaysofSummer on Jun 13, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Pac,
I’ve noticed other sites post the graph of WP that fangraphs does at the end of their recaps. Any chance, given that you talk about WPA, that you would post this too? just a thought! thanks!
HUMAN TEAMMATE HEYWARD JASON FOR FRANCHISE MVP AFTER TAKING MATTERS INTO OWN HANDS AND REMOVING MCLOUTH NATE FROM LINEUP
I Fucking Love this team.
Did almost sweep the Twins on the road?
Our Pen is so deep. Our lineup 1-7, is awesome. Conrad, Infante, Ross are all great off the bench. McClouth and Chavez are the only blemishes on a very strong season so far.
The best part is… our Farm system is loaded with great pitchers. This success will continue for years to come.
I feel so Lucky.
68 down. 98 to go.
I am very fired up.
Its still early, but the season so far has the definite look of a championship run.
No...
We’re playing 166 games this season!
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Jun 14, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Meds goes back to the pen,
not b/c he is a worse starter than KK (He’s better) but b/c they are worried about him getting too many innings.
Maybe they can put Meds back in the rotation later on though (hopefully!)
He’s definitely a starter in the future though.
“Diamondbacks’ CEO Derrick Hall isn’t happy with his team’s performance and has talked about re-evaluating his management staff. They could be major players at the deadline, with Justin Upton representing the only untouchable.”
Man I wish we had a spot for Reynolds.
No thanks. It would take a ton to get him and the guy swings at everything and doesn’t even care that he strikes out nearly twice a game.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- You know he's gonna get you, you just never know when or where."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 13, 2010 8:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No interest
WhatSOever.
HUMANS AT WEBADDRESS FANGRAPHS & BASEBALLPROSPECTS PERHAPS WILL SPEAK ILL OF PERFORMANCE TONIGHT DUE TO MAGICAL MEANINGLESS "WHIP"
How about Chris Young? We could use a legit CF if the price isn’t unreasonable.
by J-Freak on Jun 13, 2010 9:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
His price is unreasonable. Also, he’s streakier than KJ.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- You know he's gonna get you, you just never know when or where."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 13, 2010 10:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I meant
No interest in Reynolds.
HUMANS AT WEBADDRESS FANGRAPHS & BASEBALLPROSPECTS PERHAPS WILL SPEAK ILL OF PERFORMANCE TONIGHT DUE TO MAGICAL MEANINGLESS "WHIP"
I know
I was just trying to keep the D’back conversation in one mini-thread instead of starting a new post.
I like Chris
Even if he’s streaky. If we could get him for a decent price, I’d bite.
HUMANS AT WEBADDRESS FANGRAPHS & BASEBALLPROSPECTS PERHAPS WILL SPEAK ILL OF PERFORMANCE TONIGHT DUE TO MAGICAL MEANINGLESS "WHIP"
the only player on that team
i would want is upton
by drumzalicious on Jun 13, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
And it’s weird…for as much publicity that Upton gets, he still hasn’t put it all together for a long period of time.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- You know he's gonna get you, you just never know when or where."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 13, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
6-5: The Braves’ best record on a trip of 11 games or more since going 9-3 on a June 2001 trip.
Sweet! I just posted a fan shot on this stat. Kool stat imo.
Chipper: "It has never been about money for me, and it never will be about money. It has always been about winning, comfort and playing for Bobby Cox."
And if you think about them, we actually could have had 2 or maybe even 3 more wins if a bit more luck had gone our way.
We seriously could have gone 8-4 or 9-3 which is actually how well we played.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
You mean if we could hit with a runner on? yes indeed we could have.
by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 14, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
we’re pretty much incapable of driving runs in, as evidenced by being third in the league in RBI.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I didn't say that...
but as DawgB says above, if we didn’t strand an insane amount of runners vs. Arizona, we win one or two more games on this past road trip. But I’ll take 6-5 on the road vs. those 3 teams and smile, so good job Bravos. Just keep winning at least 2 games every series and we’re in good shape.
by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 14, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Well yeah...
in a couple of games there we didn’t drive a lot of runners in, but the statement was “if we could hit with a runner on”, (as opposed to “if we had hit with a runner on”) which seemed sweeping, and I’m afraid I have a violent reflexive reaction to sweeping generalizations. Sorry about that.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
To be honest though...
while we have done a good job scoring, and our avg with RISP looks solid, that problem has popped up time and again so far this year. There have been maybe half a dozen or more games this year where we lost by a slim margin, and left 8-12+ on base. At least it sure seems that way.
by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 14, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
That's just gonna happen
from time to time, to every team. It’s frustrating when it does, so we tend to remember it much more clearly.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Good game
Great series. Amazing road trip. We went 6-5 on a very tough west coast road trip. Everyone is banged up, but we fought hard and won. I think the rest day tomorrow is pretty well earned.
Hope everyone is feeling really good about that road trip
And just think, 1 more hit in the top of the tenth in LA, and just a bit of luck in the 7th inning during Huddy’s last start, and we could have gone 8-3. Some close, unlucky losses, and the Braves still managed to play over .500 despite everyone getting run down from the long stretch of consecutive games.
It’s a great trip when I’m not really upset by the near-misses at the end of it.
Very happy
Before the trip started I was saying I’d be satisfied with a 5-6 trip, happy with 6-5 and ecstatic with anything better. Eleven day/11 game road trip out west, with two of teams (Dodgers and Twins) having records very similar to ours. And don’t forget that this was also a 20day/20game stretch, overall, starting in Miami, then the Pennsylvannia sweep at the Ted before the recent trip. Yes, very happy. And like you said, at least two more of these road games could have easily swung the Braves’ way. Amazing trip and great team. First place in the NLE and fourth best record in MLB at the moment. What’s not to be happy about? :o)
I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. ~ Crash Davis
by Old Braves' Fan on Jun 14, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, show em who really should’ve won in ’91!
I hate Kent Hrbek….
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 9:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
6 now! Keeping up with it on MLB gameday.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 9:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yup….Floyd’s broken up in the 7th, allows a run, for anyone who wants to know
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 10:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’ll bear the torture
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 9:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
sadly, that's not the worst part about the game
seriously, the hitters aren’t even trying. this game is fixed.
Not to mention this strike zone is outrageous.
Not even Glavine could work the umps to give him this much.
by DogDaysofSummer on Jun 13, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I just started watching it…hmmm…you really think so? Gavin Floyd and Ted Lily/Lilly…never expected them to throw a no no.
I hope Andruw gets a hit
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 9:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
andruw got robbed on a hard grounder down the third base line…. third baseman was just happening to play on the line
Meh…
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It was funny when, much earlier, Joe Morgan was talking about how the Cubs had been trying to get a left handed bat to hit between Derek Lee and Aramis Ramirez, and he couldn’t remember the left handed bat the Cubs signed last year (Milton Bradley). So there was just silence for several seconds.
LOL
Meds said Lowe and Huddy called him a “run-hog”. That’s a good one. :)
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 9:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
KK called him something in Japanese
That’s rather less polite.
by Bronn on Jun 13, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Awesome road trip!
Add that to the phils sweep and the Braves are playing great on a tough patch of schedule. If they win the rays series, my expectations for 2010 will go through the roof. HAVE to keep Medlen in the rotation. Go braves!!
Braves Win! Braves Win!
Jon Miller
“It’s getting wet out there. It’s not a hard rain, not very heavy, but it’s getting WET. You’re a pitcher, and you’re out there, and it’s getting WET!”
So, in summary, i suppose you mean that the playing surface is getting wet?
Really Jon Miller? Really?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 10:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
leave him alone
do you know how long this man has gone without sex? it’s all he thinks about every day!
"Hall of Famer" Jon Miller
He’s high-larious.
HUMANS AT WEBADDRESS FANGRAPHS & BASEBALLPROSPECTS PERHAPS WILL SPEAK ILL OF PERFORMANCE TONIGHT DUE TO MAGICAL MEANINGLESS "WHIP"
Must be awful
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 10:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Once JJ is back KK needs to go
KK needs to go once JJ comes back and makes a start or two; Medlen is better and way cheaper then KK is today. Medlen looked great today and is only getting better with every start and moving him back to the bullpen where in my opinon he had at times mixed results would be crazy. Medlen is an ideal #5 starter with a ceiling to one day be a solid #3 starter given time to develop further and stay in the rotation.
KK to the pitcher hungry Brew Crew makes perfect sense to me; of course I don’t know what we could get for him lol; Maybe some beer – domestic and some cheese IMAO~
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Jun 13, 2010 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
Legendary Leon was once traded for beer
But I don’t think deals like this happen in the major leagues.
The Kawakami hate is unbelievable
Does anyone actually watch him pitch or just look at his W-L record.
and moving him back to the bullpen where in my opinon he had at times mixed results would be crazy
Instead of opinion why not look at facts like that he has nearly a 300 point drop in his OPS against as a reliever than a starter (.848 SP to .566 RP – not counting tonights game which should lower his OPS as a starter)
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
+1
I would say something but I’m tired of all this KK crap
Of all the Braves players,
he is the one that has the most misconceptions surrounding him, even among educated fans.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 13, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Braves fans are indeed, racist..
Statistics? Advanced Baseball Matrices? Rational thought? Box score? Actually watching him pitch?.. all seem to get thrown out the window when debating about KK.
Lowe, if anybody, should be the one facing this type of scrutiny.
[only built for cuban linx]
by Mighty Healthy on Jun 13, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
Everyone needs to look at the stats page. KK has fewer ER, a lower ERA, has issued less BB’s and giving up fewer hits. Now I am aware that Lowe has pitched more innings and has made 2 more starts than KK it still blows my mind that Lowe has pitched slightly worse than KK and leads the team with 8 wins, and KK is at 0-8. I wouldnt argue that KK is better than Medlen, because he’s not, but you could find worse #5 starters than KK
Is Medlen really better than KK? At this point, I say no.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 14, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
racist, really?
Come on, now. Attributing the anti-KK sentiment to racism is just silly.
by hollerin' brave on Jun 14, 2010 7:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kelly Johnson.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 14, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
We need a CF bad.
I like Kawakami, he gets crap support, but he’s solid.
That said, I can’t see this Braves team winning the WS without better production in CF, and more power across the board.
I’d trade Kawakami for a good CF
Think Lowefor Vernon Wells could work?
Bad contract for Bad contract.
Wells doesn't have a bad contract
he has a franchise crippling contract.
With crappy overpaid vets of course!
by TheBravestWay To Block A Decent Prospect on Jun 14, 2010 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Braves!
if they keep winning like this.. i might believe that they can win world series!
Jon...
If you’re going to make the reference, make sure you know who you’re talking about first. K thx.
“Koy Hill is getting to be like…the BlackHawks goaltender from the Stanley Cup…Finals…Nemmi-Niemi.”
white sox with runners on 2nd and 3rd, no out, and down 1 in the 9th
no runs. and i thought we were bad…
Except for all the walks, anyway.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 13, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not really a big deal
When you can strike out 2 guys per inning, and are just completely unhittable overall
Well
it’s not usually a big deal. It does come back to bite him sometimes.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 13, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice one…but i like the original Glausosaur pic better. No offense…it’s like a movie, nothing beats the original.
Still pretty awesome
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 10:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t have it right now but if you go on the next OT you’ll likely see it. I didn’t make it, actually, i think Smoltz’s Beard did
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 14, 2010 11:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
anyone looking to spam braves all star votes...
guerrillamail.com is a great website to get disposable emails
Anyone just want to punch Ted Lilly in the face?
Dunno why but he just seems like a big prick.. I was so happy to see his no hit bid get broken up…
by SidKotchman on Jun 13, 2010 10:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You’ve got issues… O:
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 10:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You’ve got issues… O:
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 10:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Damnit iPhone.. Distaste for all things cubs.
by SidKotchman on Jun 13, 2010 10:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ipod touch made me double post. CURSE THESE THINGS
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 10:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I haven’t touched an Apple product since, like 1987. And I’ve never, ever made a double post. Coincidence? I think not.
Shouldn't Brent Clevlen get a shot in LF before...awww, forget it!
Apple existed back then?
Nah, i’m just kidding
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 14, 2010 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ted Lilly
Is a dildo. That brushback battle he got into with Huddy a couple of years ago was hilarious. I especially loved the ump going to him and telling him he’d been ejected (the ump was miced up.) Lilly looks at him and says “No, I haven’t.”
Nice try, Obi-Wan.
HUMANS AT WEBADDRESS FANGRAPHS & BASEBALLPROSPECTS PERHAPS WILL SPEAK ILL OF PERFORMANCE TONIGHT DUE TO MAGICAL MEANINGLESS "WHIP"
We need a Venters/Vulture pic, you know, like the Glausosaur pic? Someone put your Photoshop “knowledge” to good use here! I’ll give you funnel cake!
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 10:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Only if u make a Vulture pikchur u get teh funnel cakez
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 13, 2010 10:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wagner is teh real vulture.
Even when he doesnt get teh savezzz, he gets da winzzz.
by DogDaysofSummer on Jun 13, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
...
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Vulturez brotherz
"Batting second and playing shortstop-he's Cuban. Yeah, his name's Pablo...no, eh, Yunel Escobar, sorry"
Me loves teh pikchurs!
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 14, 2010 11:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oscar Villareal calls copyright infringement
by eaheckman10 on Jun 14, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
to anyone who wants meds to stay in the rotation
so do i. but the amount of innings medlen will accumulate if he does will be way more than JJ did from 08 to 09. verducci had JJ as one of the guys bound to get injured or regress because his spike in innings… im almost positive that keeping medlen in the rotation will bring bad news in ’11…
sucks
But I agree and think he should be moved back to the pen, and get some spot starts.
by TCfromDubVee on Jun 13, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Medlen has already been very successful out of the bullpen, that should be more than reason enough to put him there once JJ returns. If anybody should be relegated to the bullpen it should Lowe or Nate McLouth (as bullpen catcher).
[only built for cuban linx]
by Mighty Healthy on Jun 13, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
JJ injured a leg not his arm. The thing in February wasn’t a major injury.
The Verducci effect is an arbitrary standard.
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Jun 14, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Since i missed the GT today...
and another for the 2nd HR
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- You know he's gonna get you, you just never know when or where."
Troy Glaus:
Now on pace for 33 HRs.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 14, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
yes sir
got something lined up for tomorrow.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- You know he's gonna get you, you just never know when or where."
by Scott Coleman on Jun 14, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
When the deal broke in December, a good friend of mine got pretty up in arms about it saying it was a disgrace that we were signing him. I told to relax, that Glaus was a guy that could OPS .900 easily, for which I endured five months of hell from the guy, who swore up and down that there was just no way, that he was an unexciting player whose bat was dead. I am proud to report that after the game today Glausosaur’s OPS is up to .886, and would easily be over .900 if not for the bad April that he endured. I’m not out of the woods with this guy till he gets those other 14 points, but I’m supremely confident he can get there before the year is out.
I wrote a Medlen – Kawakami a month ago.
by Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela on Jun 14, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Best Part about this
All three starting pitchers this series went 8 innings (or into the 8th, DLowe lasted 7 1/3 i think)…which means our bullpen should be well rested, especially with monday off, and should be ready to turn up the heat against the Rays. Go Bravos!!!
by SouthernPanther on Jun 14, 2010 12:42 AM EDT reply actions
Truth
HUMANS AT WEBADDRESS FANGRAPHS & BASEBALLPROSPECTS PERHAPS WILL SPEAK ILL OF PERFORMANCE TONIGHT DUE TO MAGICAL MEANINGLESS "WHIP"
Indeed. The Central time zone starts must have Bobby off his nap schedule, because he really didn’t abuse the bullpen the way we’re used to. Maybe he was snoozing in the 6th and 7th innings.
Shouldn't Brent Clevlen get a shot in LF before...awww, forget it!
Not surprising given the light-hitting lineups the Braves faced. Whether it was the gameplan or not, the Twins seemed to be hacking early all weekend.
That team missed Hardy and Hudson badly. Without those two, half the lineup is basically a light-hitting middle infielder.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
Maybe
But there big hitters Mauer and Morneau didn’t really contribute all that much either. A testament to good ATL pitching!
by TCfromDubVee on Jun 14, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
You forget
that Hardy was hitting just as badly—if not worse—than the Twins’ other SS/3B guys. So I don’t think he would’ve helped them. Hudson, obviously, was missed, but even without him, that’s a good lineup. Mauer, Morneau, Cuddyer, Span, Kubel/Thome, Young— that’s 6 spots that can all hurt you a lot. Our pitchers did great to shut them down so completely.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 14, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Pooffle, or whatever the heck his name is was clearly overmatched all weekend long. I’m guessing he’s a cup of coffee player. Certainly a healthy Hardy is an improvement.
The Twins are not an excellent ballclub. They benefit from having the best catcher in the game, and a first baseman who is having a phenomenal year. Their pitching has been adequate to good, and are generally good defensively. However, they’re where they are by playing in a lousy division.
I will get into more depth when I write up my take on the series later tonight. Our pitching won that series, no doubt about it.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
Agreed
that our pitching was excellent all weekend. Could that have something to do with tghe Twins being “Light Hitting” ?
Great Series WIN to end that never ending road trip from hell!
I’m so glad our guys are back home for some much deserved rest today.
I’m excited about the upcoming games at home.
The Rays won’t be easy, but I’m confident we’ll continue our winning ways.
.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
Field of Dreams
Has anybody else noticed how much Medlen looks like the young Archie Graham in the movie Field of Dreams? I can’t watch him pitch, play or sit in the dugout without thinking, “hey rookie, you were good.”
Heyward is pretty good
Just got tickets for June 28th vs. Nationals. Strasburg supposed to start. Yes! Can’t wait.
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 14, 2010 11:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Medlen's quote
“It fires you up to repeat what they did or do even better” reminds me of the Glavine, Smoltz, Maddux days when they were all trying to out pitch the other.
Lead off walks usually lead to runs, unless they don't. -Joe Simpson
Lol….
I think Maddux won, though :D
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Jun 14, 2010 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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