Braves Top-10 Minor League Left Handed Starting Pitching Prospects (1-5)
1. Mike Minor - B/T: R/L, Born: 12/26/87, Ht: 6'3", Wt: 210 - When the Braves selected Minor with the 7th overall pick in 2009, there was a bit of an outcry, with some suggesting that the team could have done better than selecting a soft-tossing lefty with little upside. Minor did his best to silence his detractors in 2010, as he started off by attacking the soft-tossing tag by striking out 11.3 batters per 9 innings in 87 innings for Mississippi. Overall with the M-Braves he had a 2-6 record, a 4.03 ERA, and a 1.24 WHIP, and he got even better after a promotion to Gwinnett where he went 4-1 with a 1.89 ERA and a 0.93 ERA in 33.1 innings. His great work, combined with a season-ending injury to Kris Medlen and Kenshin Kawakami's ineffectiveness, led to a promotion to Atlanta, as he made his Major League deubt on August 9th, just over a year after signing with the organization. Unfortunately, he appeared tired for most of his time with Atlanta. After pitching 124 innings in 2009 between Vanderbilt and Rome, he had already pitched 120 in the Minor Leagues in 2010 when he was called up, and the extra 40 he pitched in August and September appeared to be just a bit too much. Still, he wasn't awful, putting up a 3-2 record, a 5.98 ERA, and a 1.57 WHIP. Minor found extra life on his fastball this year, leading to the increase in strikeouts, stemming from a change in his arm delivery, working at an arm angle the Vanderbilt coaches had prevented him from using. The new angle let his fastball move from the 88 to 91 range up into the 93 to 95 range with much better movement. Coupled with his tight curveball and solid changeup, both of which he is able to pitch with at different speeds, this was a devestating change. Despite logging just 134.1 innings in the Minor League, Minor really has little left to prove on the farm and seems like the best candidate for Atlanta's 5th spot in the rotation. Whether or not his velocity will remain in the mid-90s remains to be seen, but he's certainly a polished, knowledgable pitcher who can live without superior stuff.
2. Carlos Perez - B/T: L/L, Born: 11/20/91, Ht: 6'2", Wt: 195 - After a less than stellar 2009 in the GCL, where he had a 5.28 ERA and a 1.57 WHIP in 30.2 innings, very few were excited about Perez's prospects. So the lanky lefty's performance in 2010 came as a surprise to many, as he combined to go 2-1 with a 1.12 ERA and a 1.06 WHIP in 39 innings between Danville and Rome. But, after just 2 starts for Rome, he was forced onto the shelt and ultimately ended up having surger to correct a fractured right shoulder blade. This injury, which affects the non-throwing shoulder blade, is somewhat common, and Perez should be healthy and ready in time for Spring Training in 2011. His long, wiry frame allows him to sling the ball in the mid-90s, and while his offspeed pitches need work, he has a good feel for pitching and a better than normal idea of what he wants to accomplish on the mound. Because of the injury he'll likely get a late start to next season, probably making his debut with Rome at some point in May, and because he's only pitched 69.2 innings as a professional he will be brought along slowly, but Perez is a real bright spot in the Atlanta organization.
The rest of the list after the jump:
3. Brett Oberholtzer - B/T: L/L, Born: 7/1/89, Ht: 6'2", Wt: 190 - Since being drafted in the 8th round in 2008, Oberholtzer has made steady progress through the system, with a 2.89 ERA and a 1.18 WHIP in 37.1 innings in the GCL in 2008 and a 2.01 ERA and a .0.78 WHIP in 67 innings for Danville in 2009 before posting a 4.15 ERA and a 1.25 WHIP in 112.2 innings for Myrtle Beach this season. He missed a month with a leg injury and put up a 1.96 ERA and a 1.17 WHIP in 23 rehab innings in the GCL. He has a thick, strong body that allows him to push his fastball into the low 90s and he has great command of his breaking pitches, particularly his 12 to 6 curveball. While his numbers with Myrtle Beach aren't overly impressive, the fact that he put up solid numbers despite skipping Low A and working around an injury is very impressive and indicative of the bulldog mentality the Oberholtzer takes to the game. He's as mentally tough as they come and while he'll likely continue to be overlooked by some of the more flashy prospects, he has as good a chance to contribute at the Major League level as anyone.
4. Scott Diamond - B/T: L/L, Born: 7/30/86, Ht: 6'3", Wt: 215 - Diamond has never recieved much of any attention, but all he's done is persevere. After being signed as a non-drafted free agent, the Canadian has compiled a 3.28 ERA and a 1.37 WHIP in 442.1 innings over 3 seasons. He started 2010 with Mississippi, where he had put up a 3.50 ERA and a 1.39 WHIP in 158.2 innings in 2009, and pitched basically the same, with a 3.52 ERA and a 1.49 WHIP in 102.1 innings. He actually improved after a promotion to Gwinnett, going 4-1 with a 3.36 ERA and a 1.21 WHIP in 56.1 innings. While his stuff is just barely average, Diamond knows how to pitch, utlilizing every ounce of his ability to his benefit. His big frame allows him to be a workhorse, as he's consistently been one of the top inning-eaters in the organization. Diamond's chances in the Majors depend on his guile and if other players like Mike Minor and Brandon Beachy falter in the 5th spot in the rotation he could be a vialbe option.
5. Steve Kent - B/T: L/L, Born 5/8/89, Ht: 6'0", Wt: 170 - The Braves have made many forays into Australia attempting to mine talent, yet their only success so far has been Damian Moss, who took 8 years to develop and was promptly traded for Russ Ortiz after his rookie season. Kent hopes to change that trend, though he's had his own ups and downs, missing all of 2009 recovering from Tommy John surgery. He got a late start to 2010 and began the year working out of the bullpen. He was surprisingly effective and as the year went on his innings increased until he eventually started his last 3 appearances. He finished the year with a 0.69 ERA, a 0.89 WHIP, 12.4 K/9, and 6.8 K/BB in 39.1 innings. He has very little experience, tossing just 160.2 innings in 5 professional seasons, but used his recovery time to learn more about pitching, leading to his increased effectiveness upon his return. His stuff is just average, so the better he knows how to use it the better his chances of realizing his full potential. He'll look to move up to Lynchburg in 2011, possibly pairing with countryman Matt Kennelly, though his innings will still be closely watched. Predicting Kent's future is nearly impossible, he's so inexperience that he could suddenly take off, but he hasn't been tested enough to really have failed.
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Peter reads your Kent entry and exclaims, “WTF Mate!”.
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I don’t think he counts because he was drafted by another organization originally.
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I still say we found him, he hadn’t pitched in the states for 10 years. He was pitching for the Australian WBC team before we invited him to ST.
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by bwellnjonesco on Nov 4, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Great write up
I’m intriqued by Oberholtzer. Descriptions like “bulldog mentality”,“mentally tough”, & being overlooked for flashier prospects (which says to me he’s a non-flashy, just get it done kind of guy) strikes a Billy Wagner like chord. A possible closer in the Braves future?
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I don’t know about a closer but if the switch from starter to reliever can bring his fastball up from low 90s to mid 90s and he can comand at least one very good breaking pitch all from the left side he can be at the very least a good and durable loogy or middle reliever. If his change (assuming he has one) plays at the major league level then his stuff would definately play as a high leverage/setup guy in the bigs.
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Good point on the fastball.
A closer would need more dominating heat than a low 90’s fastball would bring (IMO). I know Wags would hit mid to upper 90’s on his.
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Unfortunately...
…I think the descriptions of mentally tough and being overlooked for flashier prospects when describing minor leaguers to me usually means that his stuff isn’t particularly good but that he gets results that he might not get when facing major league hitters. I don’t see how that would be similar to Wagner; even upon retirement his stuff was electric—-he never would have been overlooked for flashier prospects as a lefty bringing heat in the high 90’s.
What About Chasen Shreve ...
very limited pro experience, but his peripherals are excellent – almost 7 to 1 K to BB ratio and a WHIP less than 1.00. Good size seems projectable.
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by JasonHeywardisGod on Nov 4, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Even if Perez’s breaking pitches don’t develop well enough, lefties who can comand a mid to upper 90’s fastball in the pen are very valuable. Saying that I don’t see any reason a very young prospect like Perez can’t develop at least two other pitches to compliment his fastball and become a very valuable lefty starter.
2. Diamond seems like a good guy to have around. He can keep sharp in AAA a few miles up the road and can be called upon to start down in Atlanta in case of emergency. He also has pretty good groundball stuff I think so maybe he can develop into a lefty jambreaker like Moylan is from the right side.
3. I know this has been said before but Minor does look like a frontline starter. If you told a scout a left handed starter had a ~94 MPH fastball with some life he can locate, a plus curveball to use to get lefties and a plus change to get righties all with good pitching accumen.. he would tell you that equals a frontline starter. Its still to be seen if his fastball stays that fast and if his offspeed stuff can consistanty be plus pitches at the major league level but he has as good a shot as most other top pitching prospects.
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That has been my thoughts all along...
a lefty with those pitches, with command and movement, even with ~2 mph off his fastball, can be a front line starter depending on that location and movement. I’ve never understood the Minor sucks stuff from people who said we needed “higher upside”. Upside doesn’t equal upper 90s heat, stuff and command like Minor seems to have can have a great “upside”.
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I think the key to Minor is whether he can maintain the velocity.
He didn’t always do that late into games, at least when he was called up; although at that point he seemed tired in general. It does worry me that he found the extra velocity using an arm slot they wouldn’t let him use at Vandy—-does this mean it is an arm slot that could cause injury? I hope not.
Minor certainly has the upside of a frontline starter if he can maintain 92-94 mph on his fastball. If that falls back to 88-90, he is probably more of a mid-rotation guy. Not bad at all for a floor and ceiling.
IIRC (and I might not be)
They changed his slot at Vandy because they wanted him to throw another pitch (I think a slider). The Braves thought best to dump the fourth pitch, restore his arm angle and give extra life to his fastball.
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Maybe I’m jumping the gun, but in your 3rd point it sounds to me like you were describing Cliff lee.
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ive already said
Minor needs to do what some of the other great LHPs are doing right now and thats throw a cutter. See:
Cliff Lee
Andy Pettite
C.C. Sabathia
by drumzalicious on Nov 4, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
How does Kent do a 12.4 K/9 w/ “just average” stuff?
I saw him pitch in relief once last season and the batters couldn’t touch his pitchs.
Mixing location and speeds to keep a hitter’s timing off. He had Rome hitters totally confused in the short spans he pitched. Being able to keep more advanced hitters confused during multiple innings will prove how valuable Kent really is.
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by bwellnjonesco on Nov 4, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I always hate IP as an indicator of a pitcher's stamina.
I mean, an inning can be anything from 3 to 30 pitches. I’d like to see IP accompanied by avg pitches per batter or avg pitches per inning. Roy Halladay, for example, throws a ton of innings but not that many pitches per inning.
Unfortunately, I have no idea where you’d be able to find those stats for minor leaguers. Below AA the box scores don’t even keep track of the number of pitches thrown.
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I know, I meant more in general than an indictment of you. It just seems to make more sense, not sure why those aren’t more readily available stats.
by king of games on Nov 4, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The lower the level, the few people actually work at the park. You’d think the guy keeping track of the box score could keep track of the number of pitches, but it’s amazing how much slips through the cracks.
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I meant to ask this way earlier
CB what do you think about Mauricio Cabrera, this years Top IFA?
I had him at 7th on my RHSP list, 11th overall for my pitchers. He didn’t make the list because I was the only one who voted for him. I don’t really know much of anything about him yet. Johnny Almaraz said he’s good and they’re excited about him, but didn’t elaborate on that, when I talked to him. I think he’s a guy we should be excited about, it only because the Braves spent some money on him and folks think he’s good. I try to go out of my way to get the young Latino guys on the lists because they tend to get forgotten about until they make their way to Rome, but a lot of times they end up being the best prospects. Obviously I’ve had some guys I’ve been high on who’ve made me look smart, like Bethancourt and Teheran, and some others who’ve made me look dumb.
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Yeah
The Braves just don’t give 6 figure contracts to any IFA so the kid must be good. I wonder if he’ll skip the DSL like a couple others have.
OT: Yanks out on Crawford/Werth
and Boras loses his favorite bargaining chip. Always love what the market does when New York and Boston, and to lesser extents the Mets and Angels, decide not to bid against themselves to overpay players.
They must have heard the Braves are going all in on one or both.
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by king of games on Nov 4, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I would really love for the Braves to get Crawford!!!
Honestly I would use every dime we have to get him! 6 yrs/ 90 mil would get him IMO and the Braves should be able to afford that. What ever else they need could be made through trade.
that would be
a terrible contract in 3 years. The guy can only play left field. He’s like a young Johnny Damon.
by drumzalicious on Nov 4, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Um.......
I’ll take a younger more athletic version of Johnny Damon all day! Crawford at the top of our lineup would be awesome! We were at the bottom of the league in stolen bases, he’d instantly improve that. Also it would give us a stable LF for the first time in ages. I’m not seeing the downside your giving.
Another Impressive List
2 LH SPs that would be in the top 5 prospects for most organizations and another 3-4 that would make a deep list. Nice mix of high upside guys (Perez might be our #1 starter in a few years even over Hanson, Teheran, et al), guys close to the bigs (Diamond is sitting @ AAA and could at least be an emergency starter), and both (Minor). Considering this and the RH SP list, our P depth is very impressive.
Who would have thought the Braves would have pitching depth in their farm system? Unheard of I say!
by king of games on Nov 4, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I should say that it's even more than just impressive
it could be borderline historic. By my count, I’d say that between the 2 SP lists (RH and LH) we’ve got 7 Ps that would rank in the top 5 overall for any team excepting only the elite of MiL systems. From relief, you’ve got Kimbrel and maybe Dunn. That’s 8-9 Ps that should be in the top 100-150 prospects in all MiLB. I don’t know that’s happened before…
Disclaimer: I realize that it seems like I’m just being a biased homer, and I also realize that we won’t have that many Ps in the top 150 (since guys like Hoover will get passed on since he’s prolly our 8th best P prospect and you’ve got to take team X’s 2nd or 3rd best P prospect over our 8th… right?). But I do think that many would be missing the boat. Hoover compares to several innings eater types with average across the board pitches who slot in @ the end of the top 100 every year. I don’t think saying that he should at least be in the next 50 is really overstating his status…
Yeah it hard to say as I’m sure nobody here follows any other farm systems nearly as closely as our own, but every MLB team knows where to go when they’re looking for young pitching. Even our castoffs tend to make rotations somewhere, Charlie Morton anyone?
by king of games on Nov 4, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Minor = Late 90s Pedro + Early 2000s Randy Johnson + Late 60s Koufax
Combined
60% of the time, it works every time
Quick!
Trade him while his value is high
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Straight up for Pujols, Rasmus, Wainwright, and Carpenter.
by king of games on Nov 5, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions

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