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Braves 2010 Season In Review: Mike Minor & Brandon Beachy

There are a lot of expectations on the shoulders of Mike Minor.

The two "kids" round out the starting pitching reviews for the 2010 Braves here at Talking Chop. I quote "kids" because Mike Minor and Brandon Beachy are technically the youngest starters on the Braves staff in their age-22 and age-23 seasons respectively, though Beachy is only a few days younger than Tommy Hanson and was born in the same year as Jair Jurrjens. This highlights how young the Atlanta starting pitching staff really is. There are the old guys, Derek Lowe and Tim Hudson, but the rest of next year's staff will be filled with pitchers who will all be in their age-25 season or younger.

Mike Minor proved the Braves right this year when they said he would make it to the Major Leagues quickly when they drafted him. He became the fourth first-rounder from the 2009 class to reach the Majors when he made his debut on August 9th in Houston. After a quick stint at A-ball last year Minor wasted no time in disposing of double-A, then triple-A hitters before the Braves deemed him ready for the Majors.

His 5.98 ERA may look ugly on the surface, but much of that came in his last four starts in which his velocity dropped several miles per hour and his location deserted him just a bit. It's not that Minor pitched more innings than he did the year before, it's the type of innings he pitched. In 2009 between college, the minors, and the Arizona Fall League, Minor threw 140.2 innings. In 2010 he threw 160.1 innings -- not a major increase -- but those innings were harder innings at higher levels, including the higher stress Major League innings. This year's innings also included more fastballs than Minor had thrown in college, where he was known as more of an off-speed let-the-batter-get-himself-out pitcher.

Minor's K/9 rate in college was just under 9.0, and only surpassed 9.0 in his last season (9.3). To the surprise of most observers Minor's K/9 rate spiked this year to 11.3 at double-A, then 10.0 at triple-A, and 9.5 in the Majors. This coincided with an increase in velocity on his fastball from 90-91 to 93-94.

The increase in velocity and strikeout rate was a pleasant surprise to Braves fans, and with a year of that kind of experience under his belt he should be more prepared to handle the long season and increased innings load next year. Still, it's likely that Minor, a first-round draft pick, will have to compete for the final spot in the Atlanta rotation with an undrafted free agent, Brandon Beachy.

Star-divide

Beachy was one of the great stories for the Braves, in a season of great stories. Undrafted out of Indiana Wesleyan in 2008, he remained an obscure prospect as he rose through the Braves minor league system, emerging this year with dominant performances in double-A and triple-A. When Jurrjens went down in September, Beachy was called into action from the Instructional League.

He made three starts down the stretch for Atlanta, and while the team didn't win any of his starts, it certainly wasn't the fault of Beachy, who became the victim of a lack of run support and bad defense -- a grizzly foreshadowing of the Braves playoff woes. Beachy pitched good enough to make the playoff roster, where he was for a time scheduled to start game-four of the NLDS before the team opted to go with Derek Lowe.

Beachy showed a good fastball with some late action and plus location, as well as a good change-up curveball mix. He's not a flashy pitcher, but he does the things that he should do, and he does them very well. I was impressed with the poise he showed in his three September starts, when twice he faced Philadelphia in difficult playoff-like games.

He goes into 2011 as still a bit of a mystery. He seems to be durable for a young starter, and seems to have the ability to pitch in the Majors. As I mentioned above, he should complete with Minor in spring training for the fifth starter spot. Beachy is also a possibility to be a reliever out of the bullpen, but with the Braves current lack of depth at the starting pitcher spot he will likely remain a starter wherever he ends up.

He's one of those great stories, and for that he's a guy that I root for and that many Braves fans will likely root for. The hope is that he can continue to improve and show that he is indeed a Major League starting pitcher. Certainly between Minor and Beachy the Braves have two good young (still rookie) starters who can grow with the team, even though they each took very different routes to the big leagues.

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I love the idea of adding a young power lefty to the rotation. I hope Minor gets the #5 spot.

The idea of having 5 righties just doesn’t sit well with me. Beyond that, I simply think Minor is the better pitcher. When he’s on, his stuff is pretty filthy.

60% of the time, it works every time

by ATLandUNC on Oct 29, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

power lefty?

i like minor real well, but his fastball averages 92 93mph..i wouldnt call a pitcher a power pitcher until they are 96+ (maybe 95 if they have the strikeout rates, which minor has and i can understand if this leads to feelings of power pitcher)

by willlinn on Oct 29, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

One starting pitcher in MLB averaged better than 96 mph.

Don't kiss an ass if it's in the process of shitting on you.

"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09

by buzzdeadwax on Oct 29, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Power pitcher...

I suppose everyone’s definition of this is a bit different.

A power pitcher, to me, is more than just velocity. As far as velocity is concerned, I think it’s someone who has a fastball sitting at 90+ mph that can generally take it up a few mphs above that when necessary.

As far as strategy is concerned, I see power pitchers as folks that pound the zone to get ahead in the count and can challenge batters by throwing strikes with a variety of pitches as well as induce swinging strikes on pitches out of the zone.

The ability to challenge the batter should not be overlooked, as it is the most important trait of a power pitcher, but a power pitcher need not be a one-trick pony. It works in the cases of relievers, but I think there are quite a few power pitchers that don’t limit themselves to throwing their best pitch when they’re behind in counts or when the count is full.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Oct 29, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's all pray for the kids' arms to hold up next year.

No more pitching injuries, please. Do. Not. Want.

"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton

by UMDBHIK on Oct 29, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I was worried about Minor, but hopefully he won’t have arm issues next year. That being said, he should win the 5th spot and I look forward to a full season of Minor.

Beachy has been on my radar for awhile, and though his stuff isn’t great, he knows how to pitch and that can compensate for not having great stuff. I wish him the best and hope he continues to do his thing.

by Sparhawk on Oct 29, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm guessing we'll see this next year...

Hudson
Hanson
Lowe
Jurrjens
Minor

with Beachy leading the AAA team in case a pitcher goes down with injury. We just need to keep him, JJ or Minor healthy and productive through the 2011 season as we’ll inevitably trade one or two of them next off-season.

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Oct 29, 2010 1:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

As usual

you and I agree. I think JJ is the obvious choice here, simply due to “guess who” being his agent. Damn I hate that SOB.

Eddie V

by DolphinNation on Oct 29, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure every fan around the globe hates that guy.

by Sparhawk on Oct 29, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even Scott Boras hates Scott Boras.

by king of games on Oct 29, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't.

He is a product of the system. Every player who signs with him knows exactly what he is all about, and he does his job better than anyone for players who want top dollar who are top dollar players. (He does tend to ignore his minor players and they, in recent years, have quite rightly been starting to ditch him.) I am not going to hate on a guy who does his job and does it well.

by cavebird on Oct 29, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont mean to be offenisive here but...

You seem to like to disagree for the sake of disagreeing. Are you a lawyer by any chance?

by Trek on Oct 30, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Assuming Minor is the #5

what’s our AAA rotation look like in 2011? Beachy will be there as the staff ace, along with Ortegano, but does anybody think Delgado and Teheran make the push to AAA?

Personally, it’d be nice to see, but I think they both start at AA, barring injury. Either way, I hope they both have an innings cap next season, so we don’t have a repeat of Med’s TJS.

Eddie V

by DolphinNation on Oct 29, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the idea of them pushing their way into triple A next year

i wouldnt be surprised if teheran was knocking, even banging on the door next year…

this young pitching the braves have is out of control

jurjjens
hanson
minor
beachy
teheran
Medlen

those are 6 studs right there that are still under 25
-teheran, that rotation would be envied by a number of teams right now

that doesnt even include vizcaino, delgado, ortegano, and a number of other guys in our farm system that have the potential to be serrious serrious options

by willlinn on Oct 29, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. Hanson 2. Teheran 3. JJ 4. Delgado 5. Minor would be an insane rotation. Hopefully, this can happen within the next 3 years.

by Braves24 on Oct 29, 2010 2:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

One or more of those guys will likely be traded.

by king of games on Oct 29, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe one but

I don’t see us trading two. I think Teheran, Hanson, and Minor are very unlikely to be traded.

by Braves24 on Oct 29, 2010 4:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

and JJ and Delgado are very likely to be traded, thus the “more”. I also wouldn’t be that shocked if Minor got traded, though I’m in no way for that.

by king of games on Oct 29, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if they are likely to be traded...

…but honestly if we can fill some hitting needs by trading them, I hope they are traded. We really don’t have much coming in the way of hitters in the next couple of years, our better hitting prospects are farther away. (This of course assumes that Freeman is already here; he is coming, barring injury.)

by cavebird on Oct 29, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really doubt the Braves are going to trade Minor. Many people believed the Braves took him too high in the draft and so far he has proven a lot of people wrong. I don’t see us trading JJ and Delgado, maybe one but not both.

by Braves24 on Oct 29, 2010 9:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Trade

Either Lowe or Jurrjens and start both the kids is what I say!

by Jay212033 on Oct 29, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beachy

He has only thrown 223 innings and made 23 starts in three pro seasons with alot of work in relief. I find it hard tk believe he could physically make it through 25-30 starts and 150-170 tough MLB innings as our fifth starter in 2010. He really needs to get one full season as a starter in AAA before I put him in the rotation over Minor or even Kawakamii.

Jason Heyward wins at baseball.

by bbxxj on Oct 29, 2010 3:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think Minor and Beachy should pitch the same game every fifth start. One throws five innings the other four. Save our ’pen a bit.

by king of games on Oct 29, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

KK is history. Gone. It would be an absolute shocker if he returned.

by fandave on Oct 29, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Beachy is the sixth starter at the moment.

He might even be the seventh. I doubt he would serve as a full season starter yet. If everyone stays healthy he might get a full year starting at AAA, but that isn’t likely, so more likely he will up the innings some, and either start and relieve in Atlanta all year, or start in AAA and start and or relieve in Atlanta.

by cavebird on Oct 29, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beachy was amazing to me. The kid came up and flat out delivered when his team needed him the most and he was a rookie facing one of the top offenses in the NL. As great as it would be to see him in our rotation next year I don’t think we see him in our ML rotation until 2012 simply because he was just converted into a starter and isn’t very likely to be able to make it through an entire season.

Either way the kid was freaking dealing when he came up and I think he is going to open some eyes in AAA this year.

Minor is a guy who I hope we keep. I was open to trading him last off-season because we needed a bat and was not expecting Kawakami to fall off a cliff but I am quite happy to keep him around. We have lacked a good consistent Left Handed starter in our rotation for a while and hopefully he blossoms at the ML level. Would love to have our very own cheap Cliff Lee. With that said he should do what all the other good Lefties in the AL do and thats learn a Cutter.

by drumzalicious on Oct 29, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

It will be interesting to see how Beachy does...

…whether it be in AAA or Atlanta. His stuff is still projected as back of the rotation, but he has flat out delivered. Was it luck or is he one of those rare guys who can consistently produce results better than his stuff like Glavine did? Time will tell. If he does pull that off, our pitching, in the majors and coming up is just sick, even assuming the usual attrition (through injury and otherwise) of minor league pitchers.

by cavebird on Oct 29, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would you want to trade him last offseason when we could use a left hand starter? And I dont think we could have traded him anyway.

by Braves24 on Oct 29, 2010 9:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Beachy in AAA...worthless!!

If he isn’t 5th starter or bullpen guy, then trade him. 1) he’ll be more valuable now since he is a hot commodity 2) it’s not fair to him to put him back in minors. He laid it on the line, don’t hose him!

I think he’s in the pen and on call to start. Don’t forget his sick numbers in the pen, plus he can get 93-96 regularly and has pinpoint control. As a starter, he’s 90-93.

His poise will put him on opening day roster, I just hope it’s with us!

by Braves12 on Oct 29, 2010 9:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You act as if it's a demotion...

It’s not. Beachy wasn’t even a September call-up. He was an injury replacement.

I like the guy, too, but I think it’s best to let the cards fall as they may instead of penciling him in prior to Spring Training.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Oct 30, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You usually get the most out of a guy when you push him. A Minor/Beachy battle for the 5th spot in the rotation could be awesome next spring.

P.S. I hate you, Roy Helu Jr.

'Terrible preview...pretty weak, didn't learn anything new. pretty sad." - mastermike

by Scott Coleman on Oct 31, 2010 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha...

Sadly, I didn’t even get to watch the game, as I didn’t make it back home from Halloween Friday shenanigans until 6:30 pm. Didn’t think it appropriate to ask my new-found friend if I could go watch the Husker game on her couch instead of remaining snuggled up…

I hear he had a plenty good game, though. What was the final score??

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Nov 1, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm saying...

If he isn’t going to be on the big league roster in some form or fashion next season, then let’s move him so we can get something in return to help the club, and ge could make a roster, easily, somewhere else.

I think he is in the bullpen if he doesn’t beat out minor. Wren was on record saying last summer that Teheran, Minor, and Beachy were not going to be traded. They like him.

by Braves12 on Oct 31, 2010 7:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

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