Keith Law's Top 100 Prospects
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Just from the list on the little toolbar on the right, we have five in the top 100.
1 - Jason Heyward
43 - Arodys Vizcaino
63 - Julio Teheran
67 - Freddie Freeman
85 - Randall Delgado.
I do not understand Freddie's rankings anywhere.
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think hes saying freddie should be higher
by BravesRaleigh on Jan 28, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
I understand how lists can have certain variable positions...
But the guy that had Heyward 4th the other day didn’t rank Vizcaino in his Top 100 and Keith Law has him 43rd? That much of a discrepancy makes me feel like someone just forgot about Vizcaino when making their list.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jan 29, 2010 12:07 AM EST reply actions
Disagree...
and think that much of a discrepency shows just how much of a guessing game these prospect rankings are, especially for Ps under 20 who haven’t spent much time above rookie ball.
by Mr. Sanchez on Jan 29, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Fair enough
It makes sense because it’s not like Vizcaino has a lengthy track record in the minors, I just think it’s weird that one guy will rank him 43rd while another thinks there are at least 60 other better prospects out there. There are so many cases of #1 draft pick flops and 30th round-or-later All-Stars that it definitely throws a wrench in making this an exact science…
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jan 29, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, Freddie Freeman 11 spots behind Lars Anderson? He’s a year younger and played much better. I’m not understanding how so may people all of the sudden don’t think much of Freddie. Whatever, he’ll just have to go out and win the 2010 Minor League player of the year award and make some folks look silly.
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But CB, Lars plays in Boston.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jan 29, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh. I just personally hate Lars. He’s such a douche. The guy is seriously from space. It’s like he was just dropped on the planet and nobody gave him the slightest indication of how to interact like a human being. If you had a fictional character that was as social absurd as him nobody would believe it.
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Really? Elaboration?
I always enjoy your player interaction stories from the minors, I’d love to hear Lars’.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jan 29, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
He’s just a weirdo. The first time I ever met him (Spring Training 2008) I asked him to sign a few cards and he gives me this nasty look and says, “Didn’t I sign for you yesterday?” I’m like, “No, I’ve never met you before.” His entire mood changes and he’s like, “Oh, Ok, no problem” and signs 4 cards for me.
I see him later in the year when he’s playing AA and I ask him for his autograph (keep in mind he never remembers anyone, he just doesn’t care about other people enough to bother) and he says, “Why?” I’ve never heard that one before so after a pause I reply, “Because I collect autographs.” He replies, “If I have to,” and trudges over and grudgingly signs one card for me. He says, “So are you going to sell this?” I say, “No, I’ve never sold a card in my life. I just like baseball and I like coming to the games and getting the cards signed and talking with the players.” Again, he has a novel retort, “Then why do you need to get the cards signed if you just like talking to people?” Again, I was caught off guard, but after a second I replied, “If I said ‘Hey Lars, will you come over here and chat for a minute’ would you have come over.” I finally got him on one cause he just sulked, muttered something and walked away.
The next time I see him (ST 2009) I’m just leery of him because he’s creepy, but my buddy I’m with has never gotten his autograph so he’s all about it. Lars comes out of the clubhouse and my buddy asks him and Lars says, “Why do you want my autograph? Wouldn’t you rather just have a handshake?” My buddy says something to the effect that he collects and he’s never gotten his autograph and yes he’d love a handshake but he’d also like an autograph. Lars, muttering to himself the whole time, finally signs a card for my friend, but my friend was dumb enough to hand him 2 cards. Lars scribbles his slop autograph on the top one and more or less throws the 2 cards back at my friend, who manages to catch the signed one but misses the other one, which lands on the ground, irrevocably dinging the corner of the card. I wasn’t going to bother with him, but since he was there and had signed something I thought why not and handed him a card. He’s got the card and pen in his hand and I, trying to engender a bit of humanity and familiarity in him, say, quite disingenuously, “Good to see you again Lars.” Just as he’s touching the pen to the card he stops and looks up at me. “Have I signed something for you before?” “Yeah,” I replied, “you signed a card for me last year.” “Oh, then you’re good,” he says, and drops my pen and card, also irrevocably dinging its corner, on the ground. “You can have a handshake though,” he says, shoving his hand at mine, more or less karate chopping the webbing, then walks off.
My friend and I were talking to another guy there in ST 09 who had seen Lars in a few places and had plenty of similar stories. He said the day before he was just trying to be polite, to make small talk; he said, “Hey Lars, how’s it going?” and Lars replied, “As good as can be expected.” Pressing on, the guy asked, “How’s your spring been?” “Relative to what?” Lars asks him. The guy was, as most seem to be, surprised by this response to his banal question (seriously, it’s like saying ’what’s up’ when you’re down there, ’how’s your spring going?‘). Finally he replies, exasperated, “Relative to your expectations?” Lars says, "I don’t have any expectations," and trudges off.
The big thing to keep in mind is that he has this monotone, ponderous kind of speech that makes him seem immensely bored with everything. I see the Red Sox Minor Leaguers a lot (kind of a happenstance of good positioning of their affiliates and a great Minor League Spring Training complex) so I know a few of the players fairly well and most all of them can’t stand the guy. What it comes down to is he’s this spoiled rich hippie from Berkley who thinks he’s better than everyone and everything, he thinks he’s smarter and more talented and more interesting than everyone.
So that’s why my general rule is “Fuck Lars Anderson!”
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I feel like I should point out that I have no problem with a player not signing something for me. I don’t like it, because without guys like me (and you) these players wouldn’t be able to play a sport for a living and make not only a comfortable living but in many cases an extravagant one, but at the same time they’re not obligated to sign. If you want to say ‘no’ that’s your business, I’m just saying there’s a right way to say ‘no’, politely.
Also, I realized that I based one of the characters in my novel on Lars…but somehow managed to write the bulk of the story 5 months before I ever met him…it’s sad he’s that much of a cliche…
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Thanks for taking the time to write all that
Regardless of how much money a player makes or how big a prospect they are, it’s not hard to be a decent person to “the general public.” It doesn’t take much effort and there are a lot of genuinely nice guys out there who have done a lot more than Lars Anderson. It’s a shame he seems to be such a tool, but I guess you get creepy entitled apples in every bunch.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jan 29, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Sometimes I just want to scream something like “Steve Carlton signed 5 cards for me and he was as cool as any human being could be about it! So did Tom Glavine! So did a bunch of other amazing, world class players! Who the hell are you, (insert douche bag’s name here [usually Lars Anderson or Billy Traber])?!?”
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Haha. Billy Traber.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Jan 29, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think Lars is catching a break on his back issues whereas, much like schafer and his wrist, people are ignoring the hand/wrist (cant remember which it was with freddie) when thinking about his AA numbers. I agree that Freddie should be ahead of Lars but given the fact that his power to this point is all potential and developing and not actual production, I don’t have as much problem with the lower ranking. 67 might be a little too low but until he starts putting balls out of the park he’s not going to fly up these lists
by McCann's the Man on Jan 30, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
You could pretty easily say the same thing about Lars’ power too. He hit 9 this year and unlike Freeman nobody’s ever really expected that he’ll develop much power. Frankly, comparing the two directly, you have a two guys who were outstanding in 2008, and Lars was a bit better playing 2 levels higher, but were both down in 2009, though Lars was way down. In 2009 Lars, playing in AA as a 21 year old, hit just .233 with a .673 OPS, 24 doubles and 9 home runs in 119 games. Freddie, playing in High A and AA as a 19 year old, hit .282 with a .771 OPS, 27 doubles and 8 home runs in 111 games. In his 41 games at AA, Freddie hit .248 with a .650 OPS; the 20 point OPS difference was mostly all in OBP, but still, playing 2 years younger and with a wrist injury, his AA numbers were very comparable to Lars’.
The two are very comparable players, they’re roughly the same size, they’re both good at getting on base, though Lars is better, but Freddie is also a top notch defensive player, where Lars is just average, and Freddie is expected to develop power, while Lars is expected to be an average to below average power hitting first baseman because of his swing and approach. And, at the end of the day, Freddie is 2 years younger and while he had a down season, a big reason for that was the second half wrist injury and still, it wasn’t terrible like Lars’. I don’t see any real reason why Lars Anderson should be ahead of Freddie Freeman. The facts just don’t add up.
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You forgot to add in the team...
especially with ESPN it seems, Red Sox = better.
by Mr. Sanchez on Jan 30, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s the only reason I could think of. Considering Law works for Baseball America I was hoping that wouldn’t be a factor, but I can’t think of any other good reason.
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Quick reality check.
I don’t work for Baseball America, and – as I say all the time – I’m not biased for or against any team. Accusations of bias = laziness.
I like Lars’ approach and swing better than Freeman’s, and have for years.
Were you watching Freeman in high school?
or do you mean in the short 2 1/2 years since he’s been a pro?
I’m sorry, I thought you worked for BA and they ran some of your stuff on ESPN. I apologize for making that mistake.
I never said you were biased. Another poster suggested it, which is a fair suggestion since it’s blatantly obvious through ESPN’s coverage of baseball that they heavily prefer the Yankees and Red Sox, and I merely pointed out that, given the comparison of Freddie and Lars, at least as I see it, that it could be an even more fair argument. If you like Lars better, that’s your call. Personally, I don’t know how any one could watch the two in the last year and think it’s that close, but that’s my call.
Aside from that I’d like to take this chance to say I think you do a great job with your coverage (even if I don’t know who you work for). I always look forward to and enjoy reading your coverage, even if I occasionally disagree.
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Keith? Is that really you?
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by justincredubil02 on Feb 1, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
yes
he’s been here before
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Yeah, I was just checking out his profile. He has 2 comments here. Can’t say that I am surprised I haven’t seen him before.
Although, it is cool that he has made quite a few comments in other places.
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by justincredubil02 on Feb 1, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
which is why i said i dont see how freddie is behind lars. I merely said that I understand why he’s not in the top 25 or very high like that
by McCann's the Man on Jan 31, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t trying to attack you or anything so I hope it didn’t come off that way. I was just trying to flesh out the issue and make it clear for pretty much anyone to see that there’s just no way Lars should be higher than, or really even close to, Freddie.
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