Braves Sign Troy Glaus to Play First Base
by gondeee on Dec 23, 2009 12:17 PM EST
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After yesterday's questionable trade (see fan poll here), the Braves front office pulled off a signing I highly approve of. The Braves have signed Troy Glaus, formerly a third baseman, to play first base. Glaus is coming off of shoulder surgery which kept him out most of last year, but the Braves feel confident he is healed and can come back at 100 percent.
This is a signing that I had called for repeatedly. Glaus is a masher when healthy, someone who averages 35 homeruns and 100 RBI a year. He's the true middle-of-the order right-handed bat that our lineup needs, and he's still only 33 years old, so he should still have some monster season left in him.
This is exactly the kind of deal I suggested yesterday that the Braves would make for the remainder of the off-season -- one-year deals to fill holes. I had mentioned that the Braves would choose Xavier Nady to play first, but Glaus is a much better option (and not a Boras client).
Some more info from ESPN's Jerry Crasnick:
Glaus will have to undergo a physical exam before the deal is complete. The physical is more than a formality because of Glaus' injury history, and is not expected to take place until after Christmas and possibly New Year's, so no announcement is imminent.
FoxSports.com, which was first to report the pending deal, said Glaus will receive a one-year contract with incentives.
Sources said Braves manager Bobby Cox played a significant role in bringing Glaus to Atlanta. Glaus played third base and Cox was the manager on a U.S. touring team that traveled to Japan in 2000, when Glaus was with the Angels, so the two had a previous connection.
The "Bobby connection" is something that the Braves only have one more year to milk. Of course, he will remain with the organization in an advisory capacity, so perhaps he'll take an even more active role in the off-season recruiting of players for the Braves.
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Gondeee, you were late on this.
Anyways, ill signing. Glaus hits bombs.
MATT DIAZ IS THE F**K*NG MAN.
They made me change my signature...
by nick9314 on Dec 23, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice. I can respect that.
MATT DIAZ IS THE F**K*NG MAN.
They made me change my signature...
by nick9314 on Dec 23, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gawd, I wish I could have. Got in the office 2 hours early in the hopes of completing my work and leaving early!
by Sparhawk on Dec 23, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i hear there's a big holiday in 2 days
I’m gonna go to the mall, like….now to go start and finish my Christmas shopping.
I used to like Frank Wren...not anymore. I want John Schierholz back!
by mvhsbball on Dec 23, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
same here…started at 11 finished at 1…and somehow people get stressed out over this?
Cockchafer
by bpk228480 on Dec 23, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bum.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Depending on the $ I love the signing. Who’s next? What’s Derosa asking for these days?
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 12:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
f'ing this
we need to sign DeRosa. All the reports are his demands are going down on his new contract. He could man RF until June so Heyward can get some more ABs in AAA. Then, he can fill in for Chipper and Glaus when they need a day off and can fill in for JHey when it’s a tough lefty.
I used to like Frank Wren...not anymore. I want John Schierholz back!
by mvhsbball on Dec 23, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm..
Isn’t that Omar Infante’s role?
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, what a scrub.
2 WAR since he got here over a whopping 550 PAs. Nobody’d want that for $2 mil.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Down to?
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
$$
Is the key.
Although after the Vasquez trade, Sori/Gonzalez decisions, Wagner/Saito signings, and now this, it seems more and more to me like Wren is looking to 2011.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 23, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
THIS...
we still got a little money available, and a lot of versatility on the roster. We can go for one more veteran bat to help ease the injury risk of Glaus, Chipper, and others, or perhaps make a trade. Wren has a nice set up where we can stand pat, do some minor tinkering, or shake things up with a big move.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 23, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Wren is going to try to find a bargain starting corner OF/backup 1B. Nady, Hinske, Thames, Dye (maybe, if that one career game at 1B counts). If the money is right. Probably ends up being a late signing though, like GA was last year.
by Lennox on Dec 23, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dye said he was willing to move to first if it got him a job.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
apparently
it hasnt worked yet. kinda feel for him
you know who would be a good match for him? The Giants/Mets
by drumzalicious on Dec 23, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's early yet...plenty of talent on the market.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy cow
that poll has 2700+ votes. Is Talking Chop that popular and busy?
And I like the signing. And as long as the $$ amount isnt too much, it’s a great low risk/high reward signing.
I used to like Frank Wren...not anymore. I want John Schierholz back!
by mvhsbball on Dec 23, 2009 12:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Losing the Jav-ster still hurts.
Somebody around here is more anal than the mom on 7th heaven. Freakin' A. lol
(self-appointed President of Yunel's Cartel~~~)
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Dec 23, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sure does.
I used to like Frank Wren...not anymore. I want John Schierholz back!
by mvhsbball on Dec 23, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
word
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nope.
not when you still have hudson, hanson, jj, lowe and kk.
by C Shint on Dec 23, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if i like all “pitch to contact” pictures were have.. It was nice to have Vaz wiffing the world.
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hanson, JJ, and Hudson are “pitch to contact” guys?
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hanson isn't
MATT DIAZ IS THE F**K*NG MAN.
They made me change my signature...
by nick9314 on Dec 23, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hudson and JJ arent exactly 200 strike out guys, but i wouldnt put them in the KK category of “pitch to contact” guys
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t JJ a few years ago say he is a "pitch to contact’ pitcher? I think he admitted that himself…
braves#1
by rockybull on Dec 23, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And giving up the untimely homerun
too often. He has a history of doing that. Plus being nowhere near as good with men on base as with the bases empty.
by Perrinbar on Dec 23, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
We had almost 25,000 hits yesterday, the largest day ever for TC. Nothing like a trade with the Yankees to pull in the hits.
by gondeee on Dec 23, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So...
You are pulling in the big bucks now and can sleep in, huh? ;-)
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
by sddbaker on Dec 23, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily.
You don’t have to be a member to vote, so people can just drop in on that one article that was linked all over SBN.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Talking Chop
Where men (and women) go to put off Christmas shopping
by acie4mvp on Dec 23, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2700 people and they’re almost all illiterate! I ain’t sold but one damn book off this place.
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it: https://www.createspace.com/3407939
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by cbwilk on Dec 23, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe....
that’s because they aren’t illiterate….
;-)
You know I’m just kidding…..
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
by sddbaker on Dec 28, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like it as well. Let’s hope everybody can stay healthy next year, if so we might have some power.
by jraypritch on Dec 23, 2009 12:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I approve
I mentioned this the other day in a fanpost. I defn approve of this. Glaus made $12.1 million last year. I’m guessing he gets $2-3 plus incentives. I agree that we should still sign DeRosa. He could do everything we need and would be a good insurance policy for Glaus and Chipper.
by michaelcooksey on Dec 23, 2009 12:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, $2 or $3 mil base?
That’s barely more than the hail mary contract we gave to Glavine last year.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glaus Terms
Reported by DOB to be $2m plus incentives. I give that a “wow, great job, Frank.”
Meanwhile: The San Francisco Giants have offered Mark DeRosa a two-year deal worth $12MM, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (via Twitter). Go get ’im, Frank! 2x$6 in Atlanta spends an awful lot further than 2x$6 in San Francisco.
by carpengui on Dec 23, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the proper term is, “Fuckin’ A”
by acie4mvp on Dec 23, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yes.
That’s pretty insane.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So our lineup will look like this
Mclouth
Prado
Chip
McCann
Esco
Glaus
Diaz
Heyward
?
MATT DIAZ IS THE F**K*NG MAN.
They made me change my signature...
by nick9314 on Dec 23, 2009 12:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Glaus behind Heap and Esco?
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think glaus is our clean up guy
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As do I, which is why I question his rationale. He fits in perfectly between Chipper and Heap.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the lineup didn’t look like the hitting order to me. Cause Heyward would not be at the bottom.
by Sparhawk on Dec 23, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He would to start off.
Milk was a bad choice...
by coldriver10 on Dec 23, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Heyward would ever hit 8th, even when he gets called up. There’s zero protection there, if anything he’ll hit 7th
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby always starts rookies at 8th
by FineHamAbounds on Dec 23, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not andruw jones...
and as i recall not even Jeff Francouer, though with a cleanup hitter in place there isn’t as much pressure on Heyward now to put up huge numbers or really even make the team out of spring training (i hope he does) but i wouldn’t be surprised if we see Diaz hitting 8th to protect Heyward if he starts
by cirela20 on Dec 23, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Logan
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 23, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, not even Blanco...
Scott Thorman also got to hit 7th when he was starting, and Diaz got to hit 6th and 7th more than 8th when he first got here, etc., etc.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kelly Johnson too, he debuted hitting cleanup if i recall correctley
by Freemans on Dec 23, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
either we had a lot of faith in him or we had a terrible lineup
by drumzalicious on Dec 23, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you guys are right, but idk if Bobby will bat McCann behind a guy that got 150 ABs last year.
MATT DIAZ IS THE F**K*NG MAN.
They made me change my signature...
by nick9314 on Dec 23, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The amount of ABs he got last year is meaningless, as he obviously wasn’t healthy last season. If he’s healthy he should hit cleanup.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, i hear you.
I hope we see him hitting clean up.
MATT DIAZ IS THE F**K*NG MAN.
They made me change my signature...
by nick9314 on Dec 23, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine that 2008 production coming from a RH bat between Chipper and McCann? Mmm…very nice. I should probably stop getting so excited before I jinx this whole deal.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are you talking about Chipper? lol
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would guess...
…Bobby will flip-flop them depending on whether there is a lefty or righty pitching.
by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My guess would be
McLouth
Prado
Chipper
Glaus
McCann
Escobar
Diaz
Heyward
Milk was a bad choice...
by coldriver10 on Dec 23, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's going to be..
McLouth
Prado
Chipper
Glaus
McCann
Escobar
Diaz
Cabrera
After June…
McLouth
Escobar
Chipper
Glaus
McCann
Heyward
Diaz
Prado
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol. I was like who Cabrera until I remembered Melky
But I really don’t want him starting over Diaz
MATT DIAZ IS THE F**K*NG MAN.
They made me change my signature...
by nick9314 on Dec 23, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he shouldn’t. Diaz has proven himself enough to deserve an opening day spot. Melky is a great 4th outfielder. Underwhelming bat, decent average, but above average defense and arm for every outfield position
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
...except he hasn't.
300 PA samples do not an everyday starter make.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Braves did not acquire Cabrera to be at the beginning of the year to be on the bench. He is gonna make what $2-3 million somethin like that, if we wanted to pay somebody that much we would have just kept Church or brought back Blanco for cheap as a 4th OF. Bottom line is IF Cabrera is not traded he will be our Starting OF at least for a few months. Now if Heyward is killin it in AAA then all bets are off. I see it as Diaz in LF, Cabrera in RF, and McLouth in CF. Of course Cabrera could still get dealt who knows but if he is on the team on opening day its not gonna be on the bench unless he is hurt.
braves#1
by rockybull on Dec 23, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know Melky is on the roster now, but...
I would love to see him flipped for a prospect or two so that Frank could sign DeRosa. Melky could surprise me, but I’ve always liked MD… mostly when he played for other teams :[
by carpengui on Dec 23, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree.
I think we did get him to be a fourth OF. He is a good fourth OF, because he can play all three positions and is a switch hitter. The $2-3 million is about the going rate for that type of guy. He makes more sense for that money than Church, because Church doesn’t play center and would have made over three million.
Remember, that headline player we got in the deal was Vizcaino, not Melky.
by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah we don’t see Melky as the centerpiece of the deal. He might even be third behind Dunn.
by acie4mvp on Dec 23, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Church certainly plays center.
He did for us last year. I don’t disagree that Cabrera is the better choice as the cheaper player with more upside, but he can play CF.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ya man i realize that Vizcaino is of course the headline player. So Church doesn’t play Center? Really? Hmmm… coulda sworn i seen him play CF before…
braves#1
by rockybull on Dec 23, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea he does
he did it a bit last year and looked better than nate
by drumzalicious on Dec 23, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Although UZR disagrees.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
by drumzalicious on Dec 23, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't we decided that Escobar in an early-lineup spot doesn't work?
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What doesn’t work about it?
Yeah, he was awesome in his 40 games in the 6 spot, but he’s still got an OBP over .360 for his career when batting 1 or 2.
by Lennox on Dec 23, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree keep escobar in the 6th spot like he was batting after the all star game last season
12/22/09- The day Frank Wrong sent the braves organization down the drain and to hell
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 23, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is a good #2 hitter and seemed to struggle as a #1 hitter. Fine fine 2 hole hitter though. But i think Prado fits in better at the 2 hole and Esco at the 6 hole.
braves#1
by rockybull on Dec 23, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Escobar's OPS leading off a game:
1.043
He does hit better 5th or 6th, but his OBP at the top of the lineup is awesome.
by acie4mvp on Dec 23, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Love this signing, called it before the season ended, glad to see people are on the bandwagon now too
by McCann's the Man on Dec 23, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
There you have it...
Looks like we’ve got our opening day roster set, barring injury. I like it. Definitely set for a WC run, if not the division
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 12:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
still would like to see DeRosa and a guy like Erik Hinske added to the roster, we’ve got money and neither is looking for a long term deal (that is if the reports about DeRosa willing to accept a 2yr deal are true) and they make our bench very good. Also allows us to keep Heyward in AAA without settling for mediocrity for a few months
by McCann's the Man on Dec 23, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Derosa and Infante coming off the bench as super-utility players would be awesome. good bats too. I’m sure more AAA time could only benefit heyward, but I think wren has already tapped him to start opening day. He’d never admit it this early, but I think he fully expects him to be on the field opening day
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 12:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be surprised if he wants Heyward to start Opening Day but spending ~5M now to get a guy that can more than hold his own in RF to start the season makes more sense because I’d rather have 3.5 years of pre arb for Heyward than 3 as I’m sure the braves would as well
by McCann's the Man on Dec 23, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you're replacing that .5 with an inferior hitter that costs you a playoff berth...
Yeah, it’s worth it.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You really can’t expect Heyward to mash right out of the gate so if we got a Mark DeRosa or comparable I’d say that would not represent an inferior hitter. and the whole point of spending ~5M on a guy is so you get someone who can perform above what is expected of Heyward to start the 10 season
by McCann's the Man on Dec 23, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark DeRosa would cost way too much...
…to just start him for two months and move him to a utility role. He has already been offered 2 years/$12 million. Remember that DeRosa and Melky had identical OPS+ numbers last year—-99. DeRosa has only significantly been over 100 OPS+ once. So, when you say if we got DeRosa or a comparable hitter, know that we already have gotten a comparable hitter.
by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True, but DeRo was hampered by injuries last season and the year before he posted a 117 OPS+. Cabrera’s never been over 100.
Just trying to play devil’s advocate.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
melky does not equal derosa going forward unless you have a lot of confidence in cabrera. as smoltz’s beard said injuries, wrist (as we should know from schafer), really hurt his offensive performance as the season wore on
by McCann's the Man on Dec 23, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thats why I don’t mind if we dont signr another outfielder. However some insurance would be great
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 12:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Reply button, friend.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe another catcher
So Ross can pinch hit this year.
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You'd rather carry three?
Ugh. Why waste two spots on the bench if we’re just gonna play Mac 140 games a year anyway?
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ross is our best pinch hitter, though. It probably won’t be as annoying this year since Norton won’t be around.
by acie4mvp on Dec 23, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wonder
if we will look at some DH’s for bench roles. Cust, Thome, etc
by drumzalicious on Dec 23, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
QUESTION: Will Glaus bat fourth?
MATT DIAZ IS THE F**K*NG MAN.
They made me change my signature...
by nick9314 on Dec 23, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yea
we all know how bobby is about players hitting over .300 and with OPS 1.000 and up
they bat 7th
by drumzalicious on Dec 23, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No complaints here.
Glaus had shoulder surgery last year, so sticking him at 1B should limit the stress from throwing. I don’t think he’s as big an “injury risk” as a lot of people say, just because he missed most of a season. Pitchers come back from TJ surgery after missing a year all the time, and put a lot more stress on their elbows than Glaus will on his shoulder. As long as the guy can hold a glove and swing a bat, there’s monster potential here.
by FineHamAbounds on Dec 23, 2009 12:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
HELL YEAH !!!
TROY FU^%$NG GLAUS !!!! I LOVE IT !!!!
by ggotch on Dec 23, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm calling it...
He’s taking Cole Hamels deep in his first game against him…
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
?????
Why would any mother name their son MELKY ?
by ggotch on Dec 23, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
HAHA. THIS
MATT DIAZ IS THE F**K*NG MAN.
They made me change my signature...
by nick9314 on Dec 23, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or Jhonny
always wondered about that one
Milk was a bad choice...
by coldriver10 on Dec 23, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's actually a somewhat common name in the dominican republic
It’s probably short for Melchizidek or Melquides
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Question: Who's our opening day starter?
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
for $15 mil? Count on D-Lo toein’ the rubber on opening day again
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s no where near being an ace, he’s probably our #3 or #4 starter
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, but he’s the top paid pitcher on the team, and making him the opening day starter will help smooth over any hurt feelings from shopping him around for a trade.
by Lennox on Dec 23, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe I’m just being optimistic, but I expect a big bounce-back year from Lowe. Still definitely not an ace, but he should make us all feel better about him being on the team next year
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 23, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yep
I actually expect him getting the 2nd start of the season, it would be a great PR move since Lowe seemed bent out of shape about the trade rumors and I’d think that the Braves would try to restore some of his confidence, starting 2 young pitchers ahead of him wouldn’t do so.
by cirela20 on Dec 23, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He might even be the Opening Day starter for this reason.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 23, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think JJ has earned the opening day start unless he is hurt. Lwe would be fine starting second though.
braves#1
by rockybull on Dec 23, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a vet.
Bobby won’t do it.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe not but JJ has earned it though.
braves#1
by rockybull on Dec 23, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I like it
but sentimentally, I’ll miss Adam LaRoche.
Tigers love pepper; they hate cinnamon.
by Jareth Cutestory on Dec 23, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
as does Chipper
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
God, the comments on MLBTR are unbelievable stupid…never ceases to amaze me.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the braves4ever character was dumb enough to say GA>Melky
by McCann's the Man on Dec 23, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good risk/reward move, as long as the money is right.
by Lennox on Dec 23, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
$2m + incentives sounds right...
sounds great to me considering I wouldn’t have expected any less than Garrett Atkins got from Baltimore ($4.5m).
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 23, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the incentives will be big...
…and put him above Atkins if he reaches them all. Which is fine with me—-he’s a good hitter with a big injury risk. Putting the money in playing time incentives seems fair.
by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im not saying he should be an ace. In reality he probably is our fourth best starter, but we signed him to be our “ace,” so I assume we’ll c him there again. Huddy has the best chance to win the job over Lowe, I could see either one on opening day
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
woops
meant to reply to the the other post
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glaus
Depending on the money and his health, i like this move. I say the money because I still feel we should have enough left to get Garko/Gomes and a solid OF. I’m not sure on Melky yet. I still can’t figure out the Melky addition, with Heyward, Schafer and Milligan/CoJo coming up. I think we would have been better off signing a guy and getting mroe prospects in the deal.
by JKowalek on Dec 23, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think we’ll be seeing another outfield this offseason. No one big at least. Schafer seems like prime trade bait to me. Mclouth could be traded down the road too if the Braves feel that Schafer can compete at the ML level
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
melky is more than serviceable as a fourth outfielder. Thats why I don’t understand why so many people thought we were done searching for a bat when we got Melky. He was never involved in the trade to be our answer in the outfield
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree. I hope Wren’s comments yesterday (documented here by Gondeee) made people realize that.
"People need help, and you know how to help them."
by VegasAces on Dec 23, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but still a fourth outfielder. We need a starting RF. That should be the top priority. For example, our lineup would be set right now if Swisher can in that deal.
by JKowalek on Dec 23, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We only need at most...
…two months of a starting right fielder. A fourth OF can do that and does for injuries.
by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know why everyone thinks Swisher was available. The first time it was mentioned was by David O’Brien on a blog. I’d love to have Swisher any day but I don’t think we ever had a chance to have him. Honestly, why would the Yankees trade him?
by acie4mvp on Dec 23, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i wish we had been able to get him as well. Im not a Yankee’s fan but i really think they need a real Right Fielder. Swisher is not a real right fielder. AT ALL
by drumzalicious on Dec 23, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
3 in a row FTW!
So now that you’ve learned the reply button, use my restraint, buddy! ;-)
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 23, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Garko would be a great signing.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 23, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What happens to Schafer?
He’ll never be brought up to sit on the bench. But we can’t just hand him the job over Diaz, who was fawesome last year. If Heyward is up, what happens if Schafer rips it up in AAA?
Milk was a bad choice...
by coldriver10 on Dec 23, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
trade bait
he’s one of our most attractive trade pieces we have in the organization. Especially because we don’t have a lot of outstanding talent with our position players in the minors (except for Heyward, of course)
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they love Schafer. I don’t want to see him go nor do i think he will.
by JKowalek on Dec 23, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine the outfield...
exactly what the braves ultimately want, McLouth in left, Schafer in center, Heyward in right and Diaz ultimate pinch hitter. Nothing would get down in that outfield.
by cirela20 on Dec 23, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Melky?
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 23, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
expendable...
pure and simple though he is a better defender than Diaz he could be moved to free up cash.
Though keep in mind this would really only become an issue if everything pans out in terms of both Schafer and Heyward’s development.
by cirela20 on Dec 23, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Schafer is going to force the CF issue very soon. If so, I imagine Diaz as the odd man out (since Cabrera is younger than Diaz, although he costs more).
I hope the Braves give Heyward another few months in AAA, if only to delay his arb clock. By August, our OF could easily be McLouth, Schafer, Heyward, with Cabrera as the 4th and Diaz dealt at the deadline.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 23, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
I dont think youth will have anything to do with these two because neither are battling for a position as a teams long-term starter i think it’ll be based strictly on performance.
and I agree Heyward should probably follow a similar path that Hanson did but i dont think that necessarily means we trade Diaz as he’d be a very productive pinch-hitter
by cirela20 on Dec 23, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
By youth I was talking about more upside for Melky, if that doubles power develops. Diaz at 31 is pretty much a known commodity, no more growth there and a decline phase probably coming in a few years.
Don’t disagree that Diaz would be a great guy to keep on the bench. Maybe they’d deal Melky @ $3M, but Diaz at $1M probably would have more value on the open market.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 23, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was my thought as well. But at age 31, I don’t know that Diaz is the long-term answer to be honest.
Milk was a bad choice...
by coldriver10 on Dec 23, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he is either, but I think the Braves are especially wary of bringing up Schafer too soon again. We mite not see him in the majors at all this year. Diaz will do in left for now. But I agree the Braves would love an outfield of Heyward, Schafer, and Mclouth
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We didn’t really bring him up to soon. He just had a broken wrist
by acie4mvp on Dec 23, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he's tearing up AAA
I’d let him do that for at least a few months, to help get his confidence up. And though I hope we won’t deal with injuries, when they inevitably do happen, he’ll be the fil-in for the Braves.
And if he’s putting up numbers in AAA like Heyward did in AA, that’s when we start shopping our OFers for a trade. McLouth could end up bringing something valuable back as he’s still signed for several years at an affordable rate. We start looking for IF prospects (because the system really lacks good IF prospects).
by Bronn on Dec 23, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
McLouth vs. Shafer
McLouth gets a fat raise next season, if i’m not mistaken. I still like Shafer
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I could see us trading either one. I’m just a little wary of Schafer myself. I don’t think we can just chalk his troubles up to a bad wrist. He seemed over matched while he was up. I’m not saying he can’t turn it around, but I could definitely see him being traded
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean it was broken. There’s a reason he played really well and then couldn’t hit an inside fastball. Sure he would’ve eventually struggled, but you can’t not chalk it up to a bad wrist.
by acie4mvp on Dec 23, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No it wasn't.
He had a bone bruise and strained some ligaments.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We’ve been over this. It was broken.
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by cbwilk on Dec 23, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of what it was, I still want to see him tear up AAA first...
…because his hot streak at the start of the year really lasted only barely more than a week and because I worry about a player who will play with a broken wrist for two months, suck in the interim, and not tell the right people the right information so they can find the problem. And honestly, I hope the problem was Schafer not telling the right people—-if he did and we didn’t catch it, then I worry about the medical staff for all of our players.
by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've yet to see it.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
4.5 million next year
6.5 million in 2011. He does have a large option in 2012, 10.65 million, with a 1.25 million buy out, so that’s the point where it doesn’t become such a great deal.
Still worth a decent haul with that contract if we were trade him midseason this year. Assuming his bat picks up just a tad, he could be a very valuable piece for a competitive team with needs in the OF, as he can play all three positions.
by Bronn on Dec 23, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly..
Shafer is cheaper for longer… That makes McLouth more than tradeable.
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like McLouth a lot, though, so unless Schafer gives an indication he’s ready to be our CF of the future, I wouldn’t trade McL unless the return were too good to pass up.
Milk was a bad choice...
by coldriver10 on Dec 23, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Call me crazy, but I’ll take Schafer over Shafer any day.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 23, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Schafer is ripping it up
they prob wil trade McLouth.
by drumzalicious on Dec 23, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MLBTR
says it for $2M plus incentives. Soleeed.
by Mark Lempke on Dec 23, 2009 1:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s deal then and leaves us PLENTY.
by JKowalek on Dec 23, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Plenty for what end, though
All the major needs are filled. Guess it’s time to start working on an extension for Yunel.
by Bronn on Dec 23, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wren can be very patient and try to get very creative now. We have a pretty much set roster, plus lots of depth at both the major and minor league levels, and available cash on hand to spend.
I think he should look for bargain basement deals on the late FA market, but more importantly maintain maximum flexibility and aggressively explore any trade opportunities that arise with the goal being to score a younger, controllable long-term solution for 3B, LF or CF.
by fandave on Dec 23, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
trades?...
or keep the money to be used for extensions, draft picks/internation signings, a mid year trade, or just put it in the bank and add it to next year.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 23, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you still have to budget for the incentives, but that’s definitely a good base for us.
by Lennox on Dec 23, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Forgive me for my ignorance but are the incentives in any way factored into the salary cap number?
by Mark Lempke on Dec 23, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean not salary cap...
the projected Braves payroll for this year (90M) supposedly. Sorry, I’m stuck in Colts mode.
by Mark Lempke on Dec 23, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It has to be factored in to the budget of the money we have left to spend this season.
It probably won’t show up on, say, an opening day payroll chart, or something like that.
by Lennox on Dec 23, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Love it.
"SIGN PUJOLS OR FIRE WREN" ~ Swo12bv
by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 23, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Glaus and now that I’ve seen the money, I LOVE this signing. Well done Frank.
by MTSU11 on Dec 23, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jay-Hey will start in AAA following the Tommy Hanson model the Bravos set last year…get use to that.
We have our infield-do-it-all in infante but it seems we’re missing that OF/1B utility guy. DeRoe would be that guy, but I think he would start over Melky.
Here’s by opening day line up:
1. Natedawg
2. DeRoe
3. Chipper
4. Glaus
5. Heap
6. Yunel
7. Diaz
8. Prado
9. D. Lowe
Does this team with or without DeRoe pass the Phills for the division?
by Chesterhighwater on Dec 23, 2009 1:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I can’t commit a player to our roster without, you know….him actually being on the roster. There are other suitors for Derosa, namely the Yankees that could screw us out of getting him. I’d love to see us pick him up, but I don’t think it’s any better then a 50/50 shot. But if we have the money free’d up, we should use it to better the team this yr. not hold on to it
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we can compete for the division without derosa. We did just fine against the phils last year even when we had dead weight like KJ and Francouer holding us back. If we can be productive throughout our lineup, even without a ton of power, we can beat em. Halladay or not
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the more I think about it....
…the more I think there’s a better chance of seeing X Nady signed this offseason before Derosa…I’d take that too
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
more of a bargain basement, low risk-high upside signing. What is Derosa’s asking price down to?
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Nady being the better bet.
DeRosa is a nice bat for second base, but if he is primarily in the OF or at 1B, he just isn’t that good a hitter. Remember that his OPS+ was the same as Melky last year. His versatility makes him more expensive, too. Per MLBTR, DeRosa already has a 2 yr./$12 million offer. I would not want him at that price.
by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't the Hanson model kind of backfire?
T-Guns was ready and we ran out a shitty 5th for 3 months instead.
Screw it, let’s put the Heyward out there in april after he tears up Spring Training (which is a foregone conclusion)
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Dec 23, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a gamble..
See: the Jordan Schafer model
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Schafer got hurt…
Milk was a bad choice...
by coldriver10 on Dec 23, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'd say that too if i sucked lol
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you have surgery just to make it look more legit?
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 23, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on how badly I wanted to get out of work, and how good my insurance coverage was….lol
by Bronn on Dec 24, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I told my wife yesterday that I want to have another operation just for the anethsesia.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 24, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We’ll never really know either way. One could just as easily argue that the model worked to perfection because that extra time at the AAA level helped make Hanson all that he was when he came up. We don’t know how he would have pitched coming out of the gate if he’d started the season in the majors.
by Sir Stealth on Dec 23, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How do we know hie was ready?
Also, we should have had Glavine instead of the shitty 5th, but he got hurt.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
$2MM plus incentives?
How can you not like that? If he hits even 20 HR, it’s a steal.
by FineHamAbounds on Dec 23, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ok…
1. Natedawg
2. Prado
3. Chipper
4. Glaus
5. Heap
6. Yunel
7. Diaz
8. Melky
9. D. Lowe
Is that enough to pass the phillies? I don’t know if it is.
by Chesterhighwater on Dec 23, 2009 2:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
whos our fourth outfielder if Melky is starting?
by Brave Neander on Dec 23, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Melky only starts until June
Our Savior is to be called up.. Jason Heyward!
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My Christmas just got merrier :)
Glaus for 2MM/ incentives is a good present for this Braves fan!
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by HEYJUDE on Dec 23, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here comes Nady
I would look for Nady to be added to this team as soon as January 1st arrives; he just needs to prove that his elbow is healthy enough to play in OF and throw; plus he would be a great insurance policy to Glaus.
Go Braves.
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Dec 23, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree on Nady, but I wonder...
…if he will be able to throw by January or even April. His TJ surgery was in June or July, IIRC. Even then, he might be cheaper and be CI insurance until he can play the OF.
by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's supposed to be ready to go by the start of ST as of the last update.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here is my lineup...
1. Nate Mclouth-CF
2. Martin Prado-2B
3. Chipper Jones-3B
4. Troy Glaus-1B
5. Brian McCann-C
6. Yunel Escobar-SS
7. Mark Derosa-RF
8. Matt Diaz-LF
9. Derek Lowe-P
Rotation-
1. Derek Lowe
2. Jair Jurrjens
3. Tommy Hanson
4. Tim Hudson
5. Kenshin Kawakami
Bench-
Brandon Jones
Mitch Jones
Omar Infante
Melky Cabrera
Eric Hinske
12/22/09- The day Frank Wrong sent the braves organization down the drain and to hell
by Kobe:The Legend on Dec 23, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You left Ross off the bench, and I don’t even think we need Eric Hinske. Our bench is more than strong already. We already seem to be signing Xavier Nady anyways. I think Mitch Jones finds his nitch with us as a pinch hitter or 1st basemen if (when) Troy Glaus gets injured.
- I miss Spooneybarger :(
by Mighty Healthy on Dec 23, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’d really take Mitch Jones over Hinske? It’s not like it’d be a money issue, Hinske is solid
by McCann's the Man on Dec 23, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We would sign either...
..Hinske, DeRosa, or Nady. I don’t see us signing two of them. That’s a bit overkill. There just aren’t that many spots on the roster; remember Ross is one of them and we’ll probably carry 12 pitchers.
by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Line up!
This line up looks the best. I wish we could get Derosa. If so I like our chances for Div. Champ. Derosa can play third or first. And is a fan Fav. at least he’s one of my Fav.
by Grey Rider on Dec 23, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know, you’re probably an OK guy, but you may want to re-think that profile pic…
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 23, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your wrong I’m a great guy! Don’t lie cheat or steal. And I did think about it for a sec. And as far as getting into this whole thing \ stuff. Your written words not mine.My comment was about the Braves lineup. Remember you felt like saying something. I’m going to be Grey Rider. And you can be Yakker. And my credibility is worth a lot more than your $0.02. Go Braves
by Grey Rider on Dec 25, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've got your back, man.
Do what you do. Not hurting anybody else.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 24, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, and I really do not want to get into a whole thing about this, that profile pic could hurt a lot of people by bringing up stuff that’s better left alone.
I agree the guy should do whatever he wants. It’s a free country. It just seems to me that on a place like this, why do something that’s going to cause others pain or cause people to question your credibility? Just my $0.02, but I felt like I needed to say something.
Again, Grey Rider should do whatever he wants. I just thought he might want to re-think it and make sure he really wants the confederate flag to be the first impression he presents to the TC world.
/steps off soapbox.
If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.
by Yakker on Dec 24, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know I don’t want to get into a political thing either, but I totally agree.
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by cbwilk on Dec 24, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How is the signing possible?
Frank Wren sucks…REMEMBER??
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by mvandonsel on Dec 23, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that was ancient history … yesterday.
by fandave on Dec 23, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA! Nice.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Dec 23, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually over on Mark Bradley’s page about this trade, the commenters and Bradley were still hating on him. For signing Glaus. Since his career BA is .255 and the last time he hit 40+ HR was 2002. Despite hitting 37 and 38. It’s so idiotic
by acie4mvp on Dec 24, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glaus
yeah, but he has a good OBP, just can’t run anymore. They ought to pick up Hinske, he would be could back up at infield and outfield corners. Good team guy, like Gomes…both would be good additions. Rather add those two than Nady.
by Blue or CONKZILLA on Dec 24, 2009 3:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, classic.
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by Smoltz's Beard on Dec 24, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me: How good was that report on Glaus’ health, exactly? Is he an option as Chipper insurance?
DOB: Yes, he is. Played 3B for Cardinals some in September, made some dificult throws, etc. And is much stronger now than he was then.
—via Twitter
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 3:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling
that Frank Wren isnt done. I dont know that he is going to stop at Glaus. He will prob sign Nady as a back-up in case Glaus goes down.
If he doesnt our team still looks pretty solid. I would like to see some experimentation done with the remainder of the line up.
1. Diaz LF
2. Melky RF
3. Chip 3B
4. Glaus 1B
5. McCann C
6. Escobar SS
7. McLouth CF
8. Prado 2B
by drumzalicious on Dec 23, 2009 4:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Against lefties i wouldn’t mind seein Diaz battin leadoff, but i would rather Prado bat second instead of Melky though.
braves#1
by rockybull on Dec 23, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
i was thinking melky because of his patient approach would be good in the #2 hole. Could also work in the 8 spot
by drumzalicious on Dec 23, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Melky doesn't have a "patient approach."
The guy doesn’t strike out OR walk much, and has a career .331 OBP.
by FineHamAbounds on Dec 24, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He also sees 3.87 pitches/PA.
That’s above league-average, and he’s been trending upwards.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 24, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t care if he sees 1, 3.87, or 10 pitches/PA if he can’t get on base at more than a .331 clip.
by FineHamAbounds on Dec 24, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well then I guess you should certainly hope for a repeat of his rookie year.
He showed he has the capacity to OBP .360.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 24, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would LOVE that.
I want him to prove me wrong.
by FineHamAbounds on Dec 24, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
having a patient approach and getting on base are two different things
by drumzalicious on Dec 24, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 24, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
here's another thought
1. McLouth CF
2. Prado 2B
3. Chipper 3B
4. Glaus 1B
5. Jonny Gomes LF
6. McCann C
7. Escobar SS
8. Diaz RF
by drumzalicious on Dec 23, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was smart that you left the pitcher off that line-up...
…because the pitcher would be pissed that he couldn’t allow any flyballs to left field.
by cavebird on Dec 23, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maddux would get around that.
;)
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Still Gomes would be nice to have. Does anyone know what he’s expected to go for?
by acie4mvp on Dec 24, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gomes
he would be a good addition, got to see him here a lot with the Rays.
Great clubhouse guy, monster power…won’t hit more than .270, and has better speed than people realize…think a right-handed version of Klesko. Not great with the glove, but better than people think. The Braves could start him, then put in Melky as a defensive replacement
Probably $1.5-2 mil… made about $1.4 last season.
I could be wrong, but I believe he’s played some 1B in the minors or college.
If he played everyday, he’d probably put up .270/.340/35HR/85+RBI/15SB….if he cut his swing down and reduced his strikeouts, he could probably hit closer to .290 and 40 HR…dude hits monster homers, hit several over 450 feet for the Rays.
by Blue or CONKZILLA on Dec 24, 2009 3:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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