Braves 2009 Season in Review: Mike Gonzalez
If Rafael Soriano was the Atlanta Braves closer that came out of the gate strong and finished poorly, then Mike Gonzalez is the opposite -- the closer who started out poorly and finished strong. Gonzalez was in the co-closer role out of spring training, but he was clearly favored by Bobby Cox to get the lions share of saves. Gonzo blew four saves in the first half of the season before losing his job to Soriano. He also ended up blowing three more saves the rest of the season while mainly working in a setup role.
Soriano's season was relatively easy to point to and say, "look, his ERA increased each month throughout the year, that's what his problem was." But with Gonzalez it's not that easy. He had the typical reliever monthly splits, where he'd have a good month, then a bad month, then a good month, and so on. Though he did finish out the year with two consecutive good months.
Gonzalez and Soriano are pretty similar pitchers, whose 2009 seasons as a whole look mighty similar. Their ERAs were similar, their innings pitched, and most of their percentage numbers were fairly close, with Soriano having a slight edge. Both pitched in high leverage situations with equal frequency. While Soriano may have the distinction of picking up more saves by virtue of pitching more ninth innings, they were in about the same number of save situations (34 for Gonzo and 37 for Sori). The only other Braves reliever who came close to that many high-leverage situations was Peter Moylan, who appeared in 32 save situations.
The luxury that we experienced in 2009, of having two pitchers who were essentially closers pitching in the eighth and ninth innings, is not something the Braves have had in recent years -- at least not two relievers like that who were both healthy for an entire year.
This got me thinking about the biggest question mark of this season. It may not be who plays first or who fills the corner outfield spots, it is more likely "who pitches the last two innings of the ball game?" To get to the point where Soriano and Gonzalez were our co-saviors, we had to trade away a starting pitcher and a starting first baseman. This begs the question, "what will we have to trade away to replace these guys?"
The quick and easy answer is to retain one of both of them, with Mike Gonzalez being the player that many around the team think the Braves have a better shot at retaining. This was thrown a huge curve ball yesterday when it was revealed that Scott Boras is now representing Mike Gonzalez. The m.o. for Boras is to ask for more years at more money per year than the Braves are generally comfortable giving away to a free agent. This may have put Gonzalez out of reach for the Braves. Perhaps our best hope now is that Boras takes those demands to other teams and is turned down, only to fall back to the Braves who hopefully offered Gonzalez arbitration.
There's no reason to think that Gonzalez can't be an effective closer for years to come. He often let's his adrenaline get the better of him, but if he can learn to control that while continuing to harness the positive effects of that adrenaline, then he should still be counted on in the ninth inning.
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Giving a free agent closer a big, multi-year contract is generally a bad bet. I’d like to see Gonzalez be brought back, but not at more than a 2 year deal (a 3rd year option would be tolerable). If Boras won’t take that, then there will be plenty of other options for the Braves in free agency or trades. Moylan, O’Flaherty, and Medlen can take over in the 8th inning capably enough, so the Braves only need to find one elite reliever, preferably a lefty so we don’t have any more Soriano vs Howard in the 9th inning moments.
by redwards95 on Nov 18, 2009 9:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
Soriano or Gonzo, I want neither if it means 3+ years and $20+ mil. We can find a handful of quality arms—Wagner, Putz, Betacourt, Rodney,Cordero, Dotel, Gordon, Hawkins, Saito, Mahay, Ohman. Maybe they can work with a former starter, maybe Schmidt, Ponson, Sheets, Colon, Smoltz, Penny, Myers, Pedro, Harden, Hampton, Contreras, etc.
I think we can sign a couple other risk/reward guys like Proctor was or acquire solid relievers without big names, and hope two pan out to join Moylan, Medlen, and O’Flaherty, among others, in the 7th/8th/9th.
by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 18, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i disagree
I have no trust in Moylan, EoF, or Medlen to be an 8th inning guy. I believe we should sign a closer and a SU man. Like Wagner and Putz, both on incentive laden deals for 1yr with an option for a 2nd
by drumzalicious on Nov 18, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand EoF and Medlen somewhat, but what’s your issue with Moylan? Is it his career 0.39 HR/9? How about his 62.1 GB%? What about the fact that for the two years he’s been healthy he’s been an absolute workhorse?
Moylan is one of the better relievers in baseball.
by bravesfan91 on Nov 18, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i never said moylan wasnt a good reliever. I said i dont trust him in the 8th inning and would prefer him and EoF to stay in the 7th innings.
by drumzalicious on Nov 19, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why don’t you trust Moylan in the 8th? He pitched in 51 high leverage situations in 2009 according to BR, and had a .650 OPS against in those situations. If by him staying in the seventh inning you mean that you want the team to sign a closer and a setup man, then I understand. But if that’s not the case, why don’t you trust him?
by bravesfan91 on Nov 19, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if you read my first post
i said that i would prefer the team to sign both a closer and a SU guy. I would prefer Bobby to be able to use him more freely. Whether it be in the 6th inning or the 7th inning when there is a situation that we need that DP/Groundball.
by drumzalicious on Nov 19, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is why
we should have given Gonzo a multi-year contract last year worth 3-4mil/year
by Trek on Nov 18, 2009 9:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wagner
Let’s go get him. Throw him in a burlap sack and drag him down here against his will if necessary, just get him.
by J-Freak on Nov 18, 2009 3:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i am always in favor of kidnapping relievers or anyone really…actually can we do Celtic Pride and kidnap Ryan Howard?
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Nov 18, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No no, for him we have what’s called a hitman. Apples and oranges, my friend.
by J-Freak on Nov 19, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FUCK BORAS
Every team should get together and just agree to not deal with Boras. He has more of an influence on the goings on of baseball than myriads of other single individuals around, and ends up cheapening the integrity of the game, in my opinion.
Sign Sori, Gonzo’s dead to me now…. (and dont come at me with all this "So and so is a Boras agent also – i know, i know, but this is an obvious cash grab move and we dont need that hassle).
by traphicg on Nov 18, 2009 11:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's called collusion
And it unfortunately costs teams a helluva lot more than just putting up with his bullshit, how ever bullshitty it might get.
by J-Freak on Nov 18, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boras does his job and does it well
Boras is hired by players who want to make the most money that they can, and he is very good at doing just that. The owners want to pay the players as little as possible; the players want to get paid as much as possible.
His tactics may be a bit ugly at times, but other than doing his job to the best of his ability, what is your problem with him? If your problem is with him doing his job well, you should blame the players that want the extra money, he is simply doing what they ask. And if you object to the players wanting more money, shouldn’t you also object to the owners wanting more money? (Let’s face it, they aren’t going to lower ticket prices, regardless of what salaries do. They set ticket prices to maximize revenue.)
Finally, as for Gonzo signing with Boras, what is the difference from his prior agent? I am pretty sure his prior agent’s job was trying to get as much money for Gonzo as he could, too. Do you really object to Gonzo changing agents just to get a guy who happens to be better at doing the same thing his original agent was doing?
by cavebird on Nov 19, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No one is forcing the owners to pay. Owners are their own worst enemy. Boras is doing his job and doing it very well. Apparently the money is availble and I would rather see the players get it than the owners.
by braves99 on Nov 19, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention if collusion were allowed, youd disqualify about 1/3 of the best talent in the majors.
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Nov 19, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
its just as much the players as it is boras. I love the quote by Hudson where he said at a point in his negotiations for an extension his agent was just asking for a lot that he really didnt want and he had to remind the agent that he worked for him.
If a player wants to be somewhere they will be there
by drumzalicious on Nov 19, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I were a player, you can bet that Scott Boras would be my agent.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Nov 19, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
overwhelming disagreement with my post. I’m surprised. Most people I talk to in person are on the same page about Boras and his sordid and haughty methods. I honestly am shocked, not even one person said anything negative about him, and i hear constant shit talking about the bastard.
I agree somewhat with most people and their saying that the player himself is the root of the money grubbing (except for drumz who seemed to prove my point that agents can (are) cash grabbing sleazebags). However, you give someone an opportunity and they’ll take it. If Boras wasnt around, we wouldnt have people making $25 fucking million a year.
He raises and raises the cap and does it shamelessly.
by traphicg on Nov 19, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like him a bit. I get why players would but I think he’s screwing up the game as much as anybody out there.
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by cbwilk on Nov 19, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why?...
keeping the owners from hoarding money? It’s not like they would be offering him the numbers they do, or that he’d demand the numbers he does, if the money wasn’t there to be made. It’s not like he’s been bankrupting franchises with his players’ exorbitant salary demands.
by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 20, 2009 8:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the early 90s the highest paid players in the league were making under 3 million. Now they’re making over 25 million. In that time, the fans have become increasingly alienated from the game; it’s gone from a relevant part of American sports to an afterthought, way behind football (not that salaries in that sport aren’t ridiculous too, but this is about baseball). People don’t feel connected to the players because even the poorest of them make 400 thousand dollars a year.
Guys like Boras raise the price for everyone. He’s not stopping any owners from getting any money because people at that level don’t end up making less money, they always want to break even if not make more. If agents and contract demands are cutting into profit, the prices will be raised to make sure the profit maintains its normal growth. That’s why ticket prices have raised dramatically over this same span, to now where some of them average over 50 dollars.
They’re not bankrupting franchises, they’re bankrupting fans, chasing them away from the game, and making it something that only the most passionate will follow.
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by cbwilk on Nov 20, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But isn’t that like blaming the person on Craigslist who is charging 300 dollars for a bat, when most craigslist bats go for 150? Yet, when people are dumb enough to actually pay the 300, the people who can only pay 150 are screwed…but it isn’t the seller’s fault. It is the fault of the idiots who are willing to give the asking price.
Then, once all the other sellers see that the same bat they have just sold for 300, they aren’t going to charge 150 anymore.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Nov 20, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His job is to get the best contract possible for his players….he does just that. I don’t think that he is ruining baseball as much as commercialism and certain owners who are willing to pay what he is demanding are.
I used to hate the guy, but now that I am out in the real world, I can’t hate a guy for doing his job, and doing it well.
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Nov 19, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dirty capitalist.
"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson
by 10-4 on Nov 20, 2009 8:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I'm saying justin...
no owner is going bankrupt having to pay off a Boras client. Maybe if the game wasn’t about money grubbing, if it weren’t $50 for an upper deck ticket, $8 for a beer, $5 for a hot dog, $200 for a jersey, then his players couldn’t demand that big cut of the money in a multi-year at 8 figures per for a career .500, high 4 ERA pitcher. Can’t blame him for just trying to get his guys their piece of the pie. He’s not the one who decided to bake a pie full of the fans money.
by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 20, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said above, look back a couple decades before the salary explosion and you’ll notice that those ticket priced didn’t exist. Those things didn’t start jumping until the salaries did.
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by cbwilk on Nov 20, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and if the price was more than an owner thought was worth...
would they pay? The owners can say no, but they’ve taken to the upward spiral same as Boras or Jeff Moorad and the rest. So who started it?
We’re in a bit of a chicken and egg argument. Neither side said no, but only one was really in a position to be firm with that stance. It’s not like Boras can force these guys into paying something they aren’t willing to pay.
by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 20, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But that kind of ignores the competition between the various teams. It’s too simplistic of an argument. That stance implies an owners vs. Boras (other agents) model, when really it’s (owners vs. each others) vs. Boras (other agents). Once a few teams succumb to insane demands in an effort to either remain competitive or over power the competition and then all the other teams have to if they want to compete as well. I’m sure the owners love the huge revenue increases that all this has created but to argue that its their fault for playing into the agent’s game is ignoring the competitive reality of business.
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by cbwilk on Nov 20, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we all just agree to blame 3 teams: The Rangers (A-Rod), the Yankees (Everyone they sign) and the Mets (just because we all hate them anyway)
"My team of nine guys who hit like Albert Pujols and never ever bunt just beat your team with one Shane Victorino 472 to 3."
by justincredubil02 on Nov 20, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
true,...
but to argue ultimate control over the salaries they pay and price structure of tickets/concessions/merchandise is not in the hand of less than 3 dozen men (claim collusion, but you still would have to prove it, and don’t ignore that these men have to have at least some small amount of business sense to build the worth it takes to own a team in the first place) is also ignoring the reality of the situation imo.
Plus, does the explosion in salaries you mention above also correlate with a drastic rise in TV revenues? Again, are the players forcing a fatter pie, or are they just asking for their cut of an ever increasing amount?
by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 20, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MONKEYMAN!
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by mvhsbball on Nov 19, 2009 12:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Equally important in everyone else's mind...
he’s one of Jezebel magazine’s 2009 Most Beautiful Atlantans:

LOL:
High, medium, or low maintenance: High
Awesome:
One thing you would change about the world: “…I wish we lived in a world where people cared more about hearts and minds, instead of the color of a person’s skin”
Javy Lopez is one too, but his picture is…Sammy Sosa-ish. I’m hoping someone just got too giddy with photoshop.
by Lizziebeth on Nov 19, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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