Tommy Hanson Finishes Third in the 2009 NL Rookie of the Year Award
by gondeee on Nov 16, 2009 2:11 PM EST
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Atlanta Braves rookie starting pitcher Tommy Hanson missed his chance to win the National League Rookie of the Year Award. Hanson was beaten out by Florida's Chris Coghlan, who won the ward, and Philadelphia's J.A. Happ, who finished second.
The highly touted Hanson lived up to everyone's expectations once he reached the majors in 2009. He went 11-and-4 with a 2.89 ERA in 21 starts -- but it was not enough of a dominating performance to convince voters he deserved the award over the other contenders. His chances were likely hurt by only pitching part of the year in the major leagues.
Interesting that Hanson won the SBN voting a week ago, conducted by bloggers. It seems as though the writers went with raw stats over any other factor in determining the awards once again this year.
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bullshit
"Are you tryin to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by mvhsbball on Nov 16, 2009 2:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
hahah yea really.
I demand a re-count!!
I thought hurricane season was over........
by bravesguy311 on Nov 16, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Re-count? Are you trying to be disappointed twice?
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by cbwilk on Nov 16, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
………no
I thought hurricane season was over........
by bravesguy311 on Nov 16, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is the second time,actually. i vaguely remember an incident involving Hideo Nomo?
I thought hurricane season was over........
by bravesguy311 on Nov 16, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least Coghlan was actually a rookie. That was just BS.
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by cbwilk on Nov 16, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Happ over Hanson…really?
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by Hcgadawgs on Nov 16, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Garbage
Hanson is still the ROTY of my heart
by Sid Bream's Moustache on Nov 16, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Very surprising that a Florida player won. Gotta credit the voters for that at least.
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by 10-4 on Nov 16, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Coghlan isnt a bad choice. Be honest. .321/.390/.460 in 565 PA is pretty damned impressive. This was gonna be a tough choice regardless of who won.
Coghlan, Hanson, Happ, McCutchen, Garrett Jones, Casey McGehee….ALL of them had very fine years and could have won it. This isn’t necessarily indicative of who has the higher ceiling, but of who had the best rookie year. Hanson and Cutch especially are gonna be fun to watch for the next 5-6 years. (Then they sign with the Yankees, of course.)
7/10/09-A New Dawn.
by !Vive la Francoeur! on Nov 16, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Moral of the story: when you have a great young player, just play him instead of keeping him at AAA to save a few bucks and costing your team victories by having some washed out veteran or journeyman play instead. It’ll be interesting to see if the Braves make the same mistake with Heyward.
by redwards95 on Nov 16, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How does that moral derive from this story? This is just some personal award that has nothing to do with how the team performed. If you want to argue that point, go ahead, but don’t mix it in with something that has nothing to do with it.
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by cbwilk on Nov 16, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
plus winning the ROY likely means the team will pay a bit more down the line
by Salty on Nov 17, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you’ll never know if those extra couple months of AAA this year was actually the reason he did so good in the bigs…there no way to predict he would have been just effective if he started out in the bigs
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by Hcgadawgs on Nov 16, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ha i beat u to it and wrote me
FTW
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Nov 16, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we’ve gone down this road before… and i think we all agreed no one knows whether Hanson would have pitched as well early in the year or if his time in AAA helped turn him into the pitcher he was in the second half of the season.
all we know if that by holding him in the minors the Braves saved some coin and Hanson was absolutely dominant for his time and the strategy worked beautifully… we have no evidence to suggest Hanson would be where he is now had he started in the majors to start the year (that doesnt mean it wouldnt have happened, just that we have no eivdence that suggests that)
Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?
by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST
by Swo12bv on Nov 16, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Happ pitched in 07’, 08’, and 09’…also has a world series ring…thats not a rookie IMO
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by Hcgadawgs on Nov 16, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sadly, he is by the textbook definition
Though I agree, it’s utter horseshit. His numbers were all the same or worse than Hanson’s. He has three more strikeouts, but it took him a lot longer to get that number. Hanson’s K/9 is much better, so really you have to think it was lack of playing time this year that cost Hanson, not his actual numbers.
Happ can go to hell.
by J-Freak on Nov 16, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Happ but than Hanson No Freaking Way.
Man this just goes to show you that NL/AL Rookie of the year awards are nothing but a popularity contest.
Coghlan deserves to be ranked where he is at but to not have Hanson finish second in voting is an outrage.
I agree with you all with the recount.
Man what a joke this voting system for MLB baseball has become.
Hanson is way but than Happ will ever be on his best day, I am still in shock.
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Nov 16, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is a bunch of bullsh*t.
Why the hell do the writers hate the Braves so much? Happ over Hanson? Happ’s rookie year was ‘07. I don’t care what the definition of “rookie” is.
And I bet Jurrjens doesn’t even finish in the top 5 in Cy Young voting, because these awards have become a popularity contest.
by GouldisGold on Nov 16, 2009 3:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Coghlan I can understand
But looking at the voting, Happ was WAY above Hanson, and that makes zero sense. Even if you get caught up in crap like wins and Ks, Hanson was right there with Happ in those (obviously poor) measures, while posting better K/9, FIP, tRA, even ERA and WHIP, for anyone who looked at those.
It’s not so much Hanson missing out, it’s the fact that Happ came close to winning it, which would have been embarassing.
by Bronn on Nov 16, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just goes to show
how stupid voters are. I realize that some award results will always be controversial, but come on.
Coghlan-105 pts.
Happ-94 pts.
Hanson-37 pts.
It should at least be close.
by GouldisGold on Nov 16, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like we said last week,...
there were 6 legit contenders. None really stood out above the others, although we are all clearly partial to the Okie.
by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 16, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh look, the "everyone hates the braves" talk has already begun
hohohhohohoh its the offseason, time to rosterbate in public places
by esadb on Nov 16, 2009 4:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Why? Seriously, its not like Happ was any better than Hanson. You would think that Hanson’s top prospect status and living up to that would help him, guess not.
by blitzerlover on Nov 16, 2009 4:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I cannot argue with Coghlan getting this thing – the dude was seriously impressive. However, the fact that Happ beat out Hanson, and not just beat him out, but nearly TRIPLED him in voting points is just ridiculous!
Hanson was better or at least, equal to Happ in every facet of pitching. This is just stupid.
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by justincredubil02 on Nov 16, 2009 4:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Think about one thing. In five years who’s going to be the all star,the above average player, and the nobody.
Yet again the press is retarded.
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Nov 16, 2009 5:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
If i had to guess i would say Hanson the All Star, Coughlin the above average player and Happ the nobody(im just not completely sold on this guy, maybe im completely wrong about him but im just not sold on him).
braves#1
by rockybull on Nov 17, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bullsh*t
(censored for your protection)
Somebody around here is more anal than the mom on 7th heaven. Freakin' A. lol
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Nov 16, 2009 5:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lol
Thank heavens you censored that!
I can’t for the life of me figure out what the real word should be!
by dragonhawk26 on Nov 16, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heyward thought it wouldn’t be fair for ATL to win it back to back years so he convinces Tommy to concede the race
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Nov 16, 2009 6:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
if you think about it
we could’ve possibly won RotY 4 years in a row:
Jurrjens
Hanson
Heyward
Freeman
Not many teams could say that
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by mvhsbball on Nov 16, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll say it again and again
If Hanson was pitching for a big market team like say Chicago or New York, I think it’s pretty safe to say that Hanson then would be this year’s ROTY.
disappointing indeed
by SmithnCompany on Nov 16, 2009 7:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Atlanta is a bigger market than the Marlins have.
by blitzerlover on Nov 16, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True,
but it’s not like the Mets or Dodgers or Cubs had any legitamate ROY candidates.
by GouldisGold on Nov 16, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Andrew McCutchen belonged in this conversation himself. He could be one the premier center fielders in the game in short order.
Coghlan and Happ can have one-two in for this award because the two guys behind them, Hanson and McCutchen, will have plenty of hardware by the time their careers are done.
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by jeg on Nov 16, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I love Cutch man. I’ve been waiting to see what he could do in the bigs since I first saw him play and met him four years ago. And he didn’t disappoint.
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by cbwilk on Nov 17, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Pirates have to start drafting and developing starting pitching or McCutchen and Alvarez are just the next in line to be traded.
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by jeg on Nov 17, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m really curious to see what Alvarez does. I doubt he’s able to stay at 3B because of his body, but he can really mash. I don’t like him as much as Cutch, but that’s probably just cause I like Cutch better as a person.
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by cbwilk on Nov 17, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im sure he could play 1B if they want him there.
braves#1
by rockybull on Nov 17, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, absolutely, but he’s more valuable at 3B because slugging 3Bmen are more rare.
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by cbwilk on Nov 17, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, whatever
these are the same guys who voted Edinson Volquez for 4th place last year and he wasn’t even a rookie
(Yunel is still the Queen of Hearts)
by GoBravesNY on Nov 16, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Also
I can’t take the BBWAA seriously after the way Cal Ripken, Jr. was snubbed by one writer out in Detroit because he felt that him becoming unanimous would hurt the HOF’s credibility, and no other reason. Greg Maddux is f-ed already.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Nov 16, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There are some SBN bloggers who routinely shovel BS.
by Salty on Nov 17, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hanson wasn't even the worst snub, despite being a snub
Giving Garrett Jones two votes is a joke. Giving Fowler that many votes was a joke. The top four (as they should have been) were Hanson, Happ, Coghlan, and Jones. I’ll throw in McCutchen if you buy fangraphs defensive evaluations. All of them should have been close. I agree that Coghlan was a legitimate winner, but we know he won because of the shiny batting average which wasn’t the reason he was a contender compared to his other stats.
by cavebird on Nov 16, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The upside to this...
is that maybe Tommy says….I’ll show them next year!!
by mikie baseball on Nov 17, 2009 8:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Right or wrong what helped Coghlan and Happ to finish ahead of Hanson is they started from the beginning of the season. That and them puttin up good numbers helped them finish above Hanson. I dont think it should have been that big of a blowout like that between Happ and Hanson but it is what it is…
braves#1
by rockybull on Nov 17, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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