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Top-5 Off-Season Questions for the Atlanta Braves:  #1

With the off-season upon us it's time to look at the five most pressing issues facing the Atlanta Braves this off-season, and what some possible outcomes might be. This is the first of a five-part series of posts that will be on the site today.

Question One:  Who starts at the corner outfield spots?

The biggest buzz-phrase we've heard so far in this 48 hours of off-season is, "the Braves are looking for a right-handed power bat." Gosh, that seems an awful lot like what we were looking for last off-season, and we never acquired it (what a leap of journalism to assume we'll be looking for that this off-season). The most obvious place to put that big bat would be in the outfield or at fist base, so depending on how GM Frank Wren and company fare in that pursuit, that could solve one of the outfield spots.

The other outfield spot could be filled by the best position player to come through our system since Andruw Jones, the top prospect in all of baseball, Jason Heyward. Everyone will be keeping a close eye on him during the Arizona Fall League, and if he does well, they will be screaming for him to be given a job even before spring training starts. Some have suggested that the Braves will do with Heyward what they did with Tommy Hanson this season, and that is to have him start the year at triple-A and call him up around the All-Star break. The success Hanson had may actually help Heyward avoid this route, as the team may believe that it's better to put him on the major league roster from day one (as the probably should have done with Hanson). Of course, the Jordan Schafer failure could work against Heyward in this situation.

How about Matt Diaz?

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If .313/.390/.488 doesn't earn someone a starting job, I don't know what will. The dude had the highest OPS on the team after Adam LaRoche and David Ross. Diaz deserves to be starting... somewhere... for some team. That brings me to the idea that Diaz may be used as trade bait, or rather trade fodder. If we are to get some sort of big right-handed bat via a trade, then Diaz could be part of a package that goes the other way. As good of a hitter as Diaz is, I get the feeling that the Braves have not always viewed him as an asset -- after all, they did try to sell him to Japan several years ago.

And then there's Garret Anderson. We should do as much as possible to stay away from this guy. He was our last minute stop-gap this season, and he doesn't need to be that again. There's too much risk in putting a veteran like this on the team because Bobby Cox seeming can't keep from playing him every day, and batting him in the middle of the order.

I really don't have much more of an idea of what the team will do with the corner outfield spots. Whoever starts in right field, if it's not Heyward, is only there until the organization is comfortable with calling up Jason Heyward, so that right fielder is a stop-gap at best. I don't think that will be Martin Prado. Cox is just being a homer when he says Prado can play right and Kelly Johnson can move back to second. I'd like to keep Diaz around -- the hittin' fool -- but he's not the pure power option that I think the team covets, and he's certainly not someone who Cox would ever bat cleanup on a regular basis. I know that I want to see Heyward in right on opening day, and if we can get a right-handed bopper to play left field, then that will add two formidable bats to our 2010 lineup.

Coming up later, Question Two:  What do we do with six starting pitchers?

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I think the opening day outfield will look like
LF. Diaz, CF. McLouth, RF. Heyward.
I personally think that Heyward should be kept in AAA to start the year, but if he does anything in spring training I think the job is his. And depending on how Jordan Schafer performs in AAA to start the year, we may have a situation on hand. I just hope this team doesn’t give up on Schafer after a bad 2 months. He has a lot of talent

by eaheckman10 on Oct 6, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1 (about Shafer)

I don’t think the Braves will speed up Heyward’s arbitration clock by starting him on Opening Day, I think they see the Tommy Hanson approach as the new way to do things. The Wren Way v. 1.2
Wren Way 1 was having Shafer up with limited work in the minors the past 2 years.

- I miss Spooneybarger :(

by Mighty Healthy on Oct 6, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then again...

We were desperate for a CF, and the starting CF plays nearly every day, whereas the #5 starter spot that would have been held by Hanson would only have allowed him to play once every 5 games, if that (given that he’d often have been skipped to give guys their regular rest.) Plus, Tom Glavine was in the mix at the time, and he was tracking to be a decent guy for that spot until his shoulder injury.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 8, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're not going to give up on him.

To start, they know his value isn’t very high, but the sheer fact that they kept him up in the bigs so long even though he was struggling mightily should imply that they see a lot in the kid and they’re going to give him every chance to succeed.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 8, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outfield.

I guess it depends which highly regarded outfield prospect gets the nod, but a platoon of Diaz/Church in LF, McLouth in CF or RF, with Heyward or Schafer manning the remain spot respectively. That’s solid defensively and good offensively, at least.

"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999

by ejruiz on Oct 6, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Start the year with LF. Mclouth, CF. Schafer, RF Heyward. I expect Schafer to be healthy and have another good spring training. Heyward should be ready as well. Keep Diaz as 4th OF unless a good trade comes along. He can play either corner and McLouth can slide back to CF when needed. Church needs to go.

by HolyHeyward on Oct 6, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree on Church...

He won’t be worth keeping as a 4th/5th OF at $3+ mil. No way he steals a true starting spot. I don’t dislike him as a player, but we’ve just got better options.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 8, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he's only starting once or twice a week...

A minor league FA or a guy in the system can do an ok job at 20% of the cost.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 11, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Schafer starts the season with the big club, since he had no time in AAA to regain his form. It sounds like Church’s constant injuries may make him an odd man out. I think how Wren fares in picking up a stop gap outfielder will determine where Heyward starts the season. If he gets someone decent, you’ll probably see Diaz, McLouth, and Gap be the starting outfield, with Heyward pushing his way on by June. Church may stay with the team in this scenario. On the other hand, if he strikes out looking for Gap, he’ll say “we’re gonna give the kids a chance”, and then sign Garrett Anderson the next day.

"Matt Diaz is a baseball player."-Joe Simpson

by 10-4 on Oct 6, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Church depends on price tag...

if we can work something out that is reasonably priced, he’s good to go and fills a nice need for the team (capable of playing all OF spots AND a left handed bat for the bench which it seems we are lacking). If he’s looks like he’ll be going to arbitration, that might be too much.

And like others, I’m surprised at the lack of mention of Schafer in the OF plans. He hit pretty well before the injury, and if he’s healthy next spring it’s hard to imagine the FO would think any less of him than they did the year before when he had enough “seasoning” to start out the year as starting CF.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 6, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta make sure Schafer is healthy and ready first...

But beyond that, yeah, I’m sure they’d love to have him if he looks good.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 8, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No time in AAA...

But that doesn’t imply he won’t play winter ball and come into ST feeling strong and ready.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 8, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The success Hanson had may actually help Heyward avoid this route, as the team may believe that it’s better to put him on the major league roster from day one (as the probably should have done with Hanson).

I actually think Hanson’s success points to the exact opposite, that they’ll go the same route with Heyward that they did with Hanson. You can make all kinds of guesses and suppositions about how Tommy might have performed in those first few months, but the fact is that with that time in AAA he was able to come out of the gate in June and dominate the Major Leagues. Once you’ve seen that strategy be so effective, it’d be stupid not to repeat it the next year.

"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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by cbwilk on Oct 6, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

every situation is different, cb. there is no one size fits every situation strategy.

in Hanson’s case, as to which Chiiper and I (as leading guessers and suppositioners) think Wren unnecessarily played it very, very safe and actually hurt the team, we did at least have the light spring schedule, 4 solid starters and HOFer Tommy G. waiting in the wings.

conversely, in Heyward’s case, the team has a critically urgent need for offensive firepower. the games he will help us win in April and May will help push us into the playoffs coming down the stretch in September. therefore, if/when he rakes in AZ and throughout spring training, it’d be stupid to not have him in RF from game 1 next year.

by fandave on Oct 6, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we did at least have the light spring schedule, 4 solid starters and HOFer Tommy G. waiting in the wings.
the team has a critically urgent need for offensive firepower

This time last year you wouldn’t have been able to say that first statement because we didn’t have depth with our pitching, we had a critically urgent need for pitching. The offseason hasn’t happened yet, so there’s no way to know that come April and May your second statement will be true.

"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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by cbwilk on Oct 6, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really though...

we needed pitching through the off season, and went out to get it with Lowe, Kawakami and Vasquez joining Jurrjens. As for opening day starting rotation, there wasn’t really a spot for Hanson except the seldom used 5th role, which as he said would be covered with off days early on and could just as easily been filled with Reyes until either he took over the job, Glavine was healthy, or Hanson was ready.

Unless we go sign a power bat to play RF, there really is no one in Heyward’s way like there was in front of Hanson going into opening day.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 6, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

reply fail...

in the form of reading comprehension failure.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 6, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good. I was wondering how much more clear I had to make what I was saying.

"At least he didn’t nail the bitchy fat girl from Hell's Kitchen."
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by cbwilk on Oct 6, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're definitely on the same page here, whether it's applicable to cb's statement or not.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 8, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heyward is ready. Unless he does badly in the AFL or spring training, he’ll be the RF next year. Church will be gone either by trade or non-tender. McLouth should be the regular CF with Diaz getting first shot at LF. I’d start Schafer at Gwinnett for 2-3 months. What we saw of him last year even factoring in the injury did not give confidence that he is ready to be an everyday major leaguer. If he kills AAA, he can be called up in June or July and some kind of 3 way platoon can be worked out with him, Diaz, and McLouth (Diaz, McLouth, Hewyard vs LHP; McLouth, Schafer, and Heyward vs RHP). With Heyward and Schafer as prospects at or near ready to be everyday big leaguers plus McLouth locked up to a reasonable deal for a few years, it wouldn’t make a lot of sense for the Braves to sign a free agent outfielder or trade for one. They’d be better off going that route at 1B either re-signing Laroche or signing or trading for a different 1B who has the same or better production.

by redwards95 on Oct 6, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Heyward, McLouth, Diaz/Schafer

I personally agree with the idea of Non-Tendering Church. His salary is way too high for somebody who is coming off the Bench 2 days a week when we have Diaz and a very affordable Jordan Schafer. I think Heyward will be ready. He just seems to have that talent. You can compare him to Jordan Schafer in the fact that they’re both young and relatively unexperienced, but Heyward has also torn up the Minor Leagues in a way that Schafer didn’t. I really don’t think we should get rid of Diaz, at least until it’s proven that Schafer can play everyday. Diaz is a beast. He’s without a doubt, in my mind (and im sure a lot of people on here will agree) the best platoon/part time player in the game. As much as I wanted to stone him for his baserunning mistake at the end of the year, the man plays harder than anybody we had on our team this year and does way more with less than anybody else as well. As far as 1B goes, I’m not sure what to do. LaRoche would want a multi-year deal and will most likely get it. Freddy Freeman doesn’t look as ready as Heyward and should start the season at AAA. He projects to be as good as LaRoche, if not better. So, blocking him in the minors by signing LaRoche to a multi-year deal doesn’t seem like a financially responsible idea. This has got me confused and lost, I hope that FW has a better idea than me…

by michaelcooksey on Oct 6, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was going to write my own thing, but this about says it.

by John Holton on Oct 6, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freeman could probably use a full year in AAA,...

if not a year and a half. His numbers were great, but not as strong as Heyward. And it also gives him time to grow and get stronger so he can provide some of the power most people expect at 1B.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 6, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade Freeman as part of a package for Adrian Gonzalez imo….

by redwards95 on Oct 6, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freeman is a very high-upside prospect and could be a major trade piece. But I seriously doubt that is going to happen. I hope he is untouchable.

by fandave on Oct 6, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you'd rather hold on to Freeman than get Gonzalez?

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 8, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LaRoche could be traded if Freeman is ready in the next year or two.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 8, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d like Diaz to stay and get a full time starter in LF. Either that or tade him someplace where he’ll be able to start every day. the guy deserves it.

I’m not sold on McLouth though. He’s not much of a leadoff guy. I’d try to trade McLouth if possible.

I’d like to see an outfield of Diaz, Schafer and Heyward. This all hinges on Schafer being 100% healthy and returning to form.

The Braves just have a glut of lefty hitters though.

by Sparhawk on Oct 6, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree that McLouth isn’t a good lead off guy, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a player worth having. It just means Bobby isn’t putting him in his best spot in the batting order. He should bat in the bottom part of the order where his power can drive in runs and he can steal 2nd then be bunted over to 3rd by the pitcher.

by redwards95 on Oct 6, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to be fair to Bobby, just bc McLouth isnt a good leadoof guy, doesnt mean he should be batting leadoff on this team. I really don’t know who else could bat leadoff for us.. he is kinda the best of the bad leadoff guys.

Heyward,Hanson,and Shaffer r ready now!! Why do you think they havent signed the "right handed bat"?

by fatazfoot on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST

by Swo12bv on Oct 6, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McLouth might not be an ideal leadoff guy...

But he’s about the best thing we’ve got, and you’d better get something good back for him if you move him, because we sure sent a good package to get him.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 8, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curious about the Diaz/Japan mention

How long ago was that and what was the offer?

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by The Keith Lockhart Era on Oct 6, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd also like to know.

Looked around and couldn’t find any references to it.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 8, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Jones????

If the Braves non-tender Church does anybody think he will have a spot on the team this year? Seems the Braves kind of gave up on him with the GA signing but he put together a pretty decent season at AAA and actually showed some power in the 2nd half.

by chopc on Oct 6, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jones was horrid for 4 months in AAA and then put together a huge September so I don’t know. Maybe he will get alook in spring. i have always liked the guy but he needs to keep everything together.

by yondaime4 on Oct 6, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll certainly have to fight for it.

The guy just had an average year in his third crack at AAA. That shouldn’t be impressing anybody. He’s got to show some real consistency to work his way back into ML plans.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 8, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

corner outfielders

I personally see Nate , Jordan and a playtoon of Diaz and church or maybe if he is willing to take a drop in pay Andruw as a back up or part time starter in left field . He said he has been fielding some at 1st base and said he cant man center everyday anymore . Just saying its a thought . Forget about B Jones people ifthe Braves wanted him playing in the majors he would have been by now .

by ~~banditwolf~~ on Oct 7, 2009 2:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d like to see Diaz given a shot at LF and someone besides Nate in the leadoff position. He has speed, but he’s got to be on base to use it.

Can someone tell me more about Nate’s arm? It seemed to me a lot of times this year he just didn’t bother throwing in at times when he could have held the runner and/or make a play.

by NCChopper on Oct 9, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The metrics would have you believe it's not very good.

Fangraphs typically has him at below or right at average. When you also consider that he’s only got 17 assists in 2+ seasons’ worth of OF starts, the raw numbers would seem to support it as well.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Oct 11, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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