A Fitting End to 756

by gondeee on Sep 26, 2007 9:18 AM EDT in News

I want to give this guy a hug.

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Excellent!

by SpeedTriple on Sep 26, 2007 3:31 PM EDT 0 recs

Bonds was crying over this

He called Marc Ecko was a stupid idiot for paying $750,000 for the ball, just to do that with it. I'm glad Marc did it. I voted to banish it though!

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by Chipper on Sep 26, 2007 3:43 PM EDT 0 recs

I have always believed that booing a disliked player/team gives him/them more credit than he/they deserve. You want to make a statement: do not react to their presence at all. Honestly now, can you envision anything more powerful than a perfectly quiet stadium as a hated player/team steps on the field??? If you wanted to punctuate it, stand up and turn your back. Booing, name-calling and hatred serve only to fuel the phenomenon that you dislike. Now, on to the HR record.

We live in an age of advanced statistics, and yet we insist on glorifying a counting record like all-time HR. This tally has as much to do with longevity as it does skill and/or dominance. Aaron might have hit more HR than Ruth, but the Babe did his in almost 4,000 (about 33%) fewer at bats. In a recent book by Baseball Prospectus, they speculated that Bonds would have hit 450ish career HR in Ruth's era, but the Babe would have sent 900+ over the fence in modern times; this was done via a complicated statistical translation of their stats, not just guesstimating. Another book claims that, adjusting for modern times (rules, parks, trends, etc.) the Babe would have hit over 100 HR in a single season. So much for Barry's steroid-fueled 73, huh?

All I'm saying is this: the record shouldn't matter as much as it does and, by consequence, neither should Barry. If you still want to make a big deal out of it, just IGNORE Bonds' "accomplishment" and treat Aaron as the HR King. Heck, many do this for Marris or even Ruth when it comes to the single-season HR record.

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by ejruiz on Sep 26, 2007 6:20 PM EDT 0 recs

Bingo

...dead on. I personally (and I bet I get flamed) voted for Ecko to just hand over the ball to the HOF, no * no nothing..just the damn ball.

by RainDelay on Sep 26, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

Thanks.

One reply and it's a postive one... this is pleasantly unexpected! I bet we both get lit up like Christmas trees as soon as the rest of the readers get to our comments, but for now I'm just glad that cooler heads have prevailed. Or maybe they're taking my advice and ignoring me...

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by ejruiz on Sep 27, 2007 1:53 AM EDT up 0 recs

Is it even worth it?

We all have feelings over this. Some good, some bad. I personally can't stand a cheater. If Rain voted to put the ball in the HOF, then that's his business, but Rain, if that's what you voted, that's like a friend coming over to your house, to play some game, and cheating in every single one, just so he can win. Would you invite him back if you knew he doing that?

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by Chipper on Sep 27, 2007 5:51 AM EDT up 0 recs

Cheaters

Baseball is full of liars, cheaters, and people with lax moral standards. Sure, Barry probably cheated, but we have no way of proving it. Hundreds of other baseball players have taken steroids, HGH, and/or amphetamines, and we don't blast them.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you're going to flame one player, you need to flame them all.

I voted for the ball to go in with the asterisk, not specifically for Barry, but to remind future generations what a crazy time this past decade has been. You can't trust anyone anymore.

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by Lauren T. on Sep 27, 2007 7:30 AM EDT 0 recs

Well, look at him.

"Sure, Barry probably cheated, but we have no way of proving it." Well, if you turned your back to him every time he came to the plate, you wouldn't. 8-) Sure baseball has been full of liars and cheaters, but Barry was the "biggest," and best at it. I'm not going to lose any sleep over Bonds's attaining the record, or even get in a bar room argument about it, but anything that gets Bonds's goat even the slightest bit (as the ball stunt evidently has) is aces by me.

by Luke Gofannon on Sep 27, 2007 8:58 AM EDT 0 recs

What a joke...

Whoever voted to "brand" this historic baseball...shame on you. Who are you to decide how everyone will interpret this event's place in baseball history? Let HISTORY decide that! You people, and you know who you are, make me sick.

What a freaking joke

by quazz66 on Sep 27, 2007 8:51 PM EDT 0 recs