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Finding the Silver Lining in OhMan

Okay, I admit, I was pretty sour on this trade when I first heard about it, but I'm starting to warm up to it. The Braves rarely make dumb trades, so there had to be some sort of reason the Braves were keen on Will OhMan. Check out these numbers over the last three years:

Will OhMan home/road ERA splits:

Year Home ERA Road ERA
2007 8.66 1.45
2006 7.14 1.73
2005 4.43 1.57

Will OhMan average against splits:

Year vs Righty vs Lefty
2007 .325 .236
2006 .243 .158
2005 .231 .173

This makes the trade look a lot better, as long as we use him pretty much exclusively against left-handed hitters and never at Wrigley Field. Man, I knew Wrigley could be bad for pitchers, but I can't remember a pitcher who was this affected by the Friendly Confines. OhMan's home/road ERA numbers look like something out of late-90's Coors Field vintage.

I give the Braves a solid "A" for this trade. Yes, we got rid of a young bullpen fireballer, but we filled two stated needs; bullpen lefty and backup shortstop. Credit has to be given to Wren for buying low on OhMan, when the Cubs were just looking to get rid of him, and seeing his value when used away from Wrigley Field. If he can put up ERA numbers next year both at home and on the road like he put up in his away games last year, then we might have stolen a very good situational lefty from the Cubbies.

By the way, OhMan has a career 1.59 ERA at Turner Field.

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it is not a good deal for the Braves unless they can get a LHP as a throw-in like Brent Fisher or somebody.

Along with the Texas trade we have traded quite a few lefty starters...if this goes through of course.

by themurph on Dec 4, 2007 3:08 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A for the OhMan trade
I agree with you Gondeee!  

by themurph on Dec 4, 2007 3:10 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lefty One Out GuY
Ohman has all the makings of a very effective LOOGY.  Over the last three years, he's faced 287 left-handed hitters and held them to a .185/.289/.315 line (.604 OPS).  I hate losing Jose Ascanio, but Will should be a helpful piece for the 2008 World Series puzzle.

As for Omar Infante, I think he's a complete waste of roster space.  I don't think there's a glove out there that can justify a sub-.700 OPS (.674 in the minors and .684 in the majors) and I haven't heard anything amazing about his.  I honestly don't see the point in giving a guy like him $1.5M.  Sure, he should be better than Woodward, but just about any AAA player should be.

In the end, I look at this trade as Ascanio for Ohman, or a young fireballer for an established LOOGY, and I see it as a fair deal.  The Cubs got a complete reliever with a high ceiling, while the Braves got the veteran specialist that they needed for their bullpen.  It's just another trade that makes 2008 all the more important, because after that we'll lose our guy and Ascanio should continue his ascent in Chicago.

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by ejruiz on Dec 4, 2007 3:39 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One bad LOOGY deserves...
...a big BOOGR (Big Outs On Groundballs Righty).  Our signing of Ohman means that we'll need some extra guys to offset that .372 OBP Ohman allowed last year against righties.  Wonder if Chad Paronto still has his jock?

Infante won't have any trouble surpassing Woodward's performance in Atlanta, but is Omar Infante that much better than Willie Harris?

by kray1000 on Dec 4, 2007 4:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Infante
Infante is most likely better than Harris as a middle infield back-up, especially at SS where Willie doesn't have the experience.  As far as offense, it's probably a push though I didn't really look.

by KLB on Dec 4, 2007 5:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Moylan?
I'm guessing Peter can be the BOOGR (love the term, by the way) and we'd use Sori as the closer with maybe Devine as the set-up man.  I have to say, our 'pen feels a little weak on the back end without Gonzo.  I mean, what is it now:

Soriano
Moylan
Devine/Acosta
Yates
Resop
Ohman
Ring

I'd guess that all of the vets above are locks, leaving only one of the two youngsters in the picture.  I guess we could go with one lefty and keep both Devine and Acosta up, but I somehow doubt it.  Stockman, Boyer and maybe even Schreiber could be in the mix as well, but I think the seven above are the best bet projection.  Feels a little weak, doesn't it?

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by ejruiz on Dec 4, 2007 5:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dejesus for James
I would do the Dejesus for James trade in a heartbeat.

I do think that James is a little above average, especially for a bottom of the rotation starter.  But I also beleive we have seen the best of Chuck James.  First off he is around 26 years old and if he hasn't even begun to develop a third pitch by now I don't think its gonna happen.  Second, he had shoulder trouble this year....some would say "fatigue", I think the Braves see this as a warning sign and would like to unload him while he still has some value left.

Anyone that has ever played baseball or pitched understands that the way Chuck throws the ball is all arm/shoulder, he doesn't use his legs and there is little or no follow through at all, thus creating a tremendous strain on his shoulder/arm.  This way of pitching leads to a couple of problems:

If you don't use your legs and follow through, your arm tires more quickly which leads to getting rocked in the later innings as well as "shoulder fatigue" later in the year (both of which we witnessed this year).

Not following through has a direct effect on the flight of the ball that you are throwing, which means if you aren't following through it is harder to keep the ball down. And if you don't keep the ball down, you give up 50+ homeruns in 280 innings.

All of this strain you are putting on your shoulder will catch up to you eventually and your career will not last that long. Look at Roger Clemens, he uses about 80% legs when he pitches, James uses about 10%.  

If James continues to pitch like he does, he will probably be an average starter for a couple of more years, but after that I only see him and his overused arm deteriorating - that is unless he and Barry Bonds hook up.  
So because of this I say Wren should get Dejesus now, because after another 20 or 30 homerun season we may be lucky to get a Chris Woodward for Chucky.

by whunt13 on Dec 4, 2007 4:21 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha
leave it to gondeee to find the good side of shrug-inducing trades

I guess the only thing left right now is extend Teixeira's contract and perhaps another SP.

by RehabReject on Dec 4, 2007 6:00 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Texiera
Do you really think there is a chance that ex will extend before becoming a free agent next summer. Let's not forget who is working/negotiating on his behalf.

by MurphyHOF on Dec 4, 2007 9:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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