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Holy Long-Rumored-Trade-Finally-Happening, Batman...

Um'kay, what I'm hearing from 'round the 'net is that it's Brent Lillibridge who's the other guy we're getting from Pittsuburgh. He's a collegiate shortstop with mad plate discipline and above average speed. He would be about to reach the double-A to triple-A level next year and hoping to increase his power output. The refreshing 'toid about him is what John Sickles said when he ranked him the "third" best prospect in the Pirates organization:

Brent Lillibridge, SS, B (Watch this guy, he could be really good)

Neat! We give up Jamie Romak apparently, no big whoop there - although a lot of you's guy's who have seen him play like him, but he's a poor man's Craig Wilson at best. (Or, Jamie Romak = Matt Young + Carl Loadenthal - Tony Pena Jr.) Bottom line, we have plenty of these kinds of guys.

The end-all-be-all of this trade, I have always said, is what happens with the second trade after we acquire Gonzalez and whomever. Are we acquiring Gonzalez to keep him or are we acquiring him to flip him or the "whomever" to another team. If the "whomever" was one of the young starters then we would definitely be looking at sending the "whomever" to Tampa or Baltimore for Rocco Baldelli or Nick Markakis immediately following this. But since this Lillihammer guy might be the guy we're getting, then it will more than likely be Gonzalez moving on to another team...and that team is most likely the Yankees.

With the Randy Johnson trade the Yankees got another bullpen arm in Luis Vizcaino, and that makes Scott Proctor somewhat expendable. So a Proctor/Melky Cabrera trade for Gonzalez (and maybe someone else) seems more likely by the minute. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but the rumors all along have been to the effect that Mike Gonzalez would have a short stay in Atlanta before being moved for other needs.

Now don't get me wrong, if we keep Gonzalez I'm as happy as can be. All the Braves fans and all of baseball will be talking about how good the Braves bullpen will be next year with three "closers" in the pen, but the Braves have already improved their bullpen drastically from the start of last season with the additions of Bob Wickman and Rafael Soriano - so that is why I keep insisting that Gonzo is just a piece which we are acquiring to get even more pieces.

We'll have to see the official statement and outcome, but I'm pretty excited about this trade - Scott Thorman takes the reins at first, our bullpen gets better, or we engineer another trade for more of the pieces we're missing. Win, win.

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I like this trade. If we keep both new guys I think we win on this deal. Maybe JS can flip Gonzalez and another player to Tampa Bay for Baldelli. Even if we stand pat we now have a bullpen which is very capable of shutting down everyone in the N.L. East. Good trade which may get better. I'd prefer Baldelli over Melky though.

by Bravosfan on Jan 17, 2007 10:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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Do you think the Braves may be planning to send Gonzalez to the Red Sox? They need a solid closer. Don't know if there is a fit there but it seems possible to me. Who dey got we can use? A young starter? I know. Wishful thinking.

by Bravosfan on Jan 17, 2007 10:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Interesting...
...churn the 'mill up with that one. There are actually several teams that seem to need a closer, so our bevy of closers could come in handy as trade bait, if not now, then certainly as the season rolls on.

Gosh our bullpen is ridiculous right now!

by gondeee on Jan 17, 2007 10:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good post gondee
i like your way of thinking! i'd agree that we'd deserve more in return if we trade MG for Rocco.

by wuky on Jan 17, 2007 10:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm
In my opinion we need to either keep gonzales or get Markakis or Baldelli. Either one of those guys is fine. But i can't stand giving up Laroche for Melky and Proctor. Just doesn't seem worth it. Both baldelli and markakis are good long term organizational players. Melky Cabrera and Scott proctor are not cornerstones. Im not saying Laroche was a cornerstone or worth a cornerstone player, but i don't think cabrera and proctor is worthy of his talent and potential, but if somehow we can turn it all around for Baldelli or markakis then it is completely worth it. Right now i think the deal is worth while. If we can turn it around for a good young run producer then it's spectacular. Melky Cabrera is the OF equvalent of Martin Prado
.....Matt

by yondaime4 on Jan 17, 2007 11:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Stand Pat.
LF/2B - Gregor Blanco/???
SS - Edgar Rentaria
3B - Chipper Jones
CF - Andruw Jones
C - Brian McCann
RF - Jeff Francoeur
1B - Scott Thorman
2B/LF - ???/Matt Diaz
P - Pitcher's Spot

SP - John Smoltz
SP - Mike Hampton
SP - Tim Hudson
SP - Chuck James
SP - Kyle Davies

CL - Bob Wickman
RP - Mike Gonzalez
RP - Rafael Soriano
RP - Oscar Villareal
RP - Macay McBride
RP - ???
RP - ???

Show me the holes; seriously now, where are they?  Even the "???" are only there because we have a crowd to fill those spots and it's tough to predict who will get the nods.  I know it's wishful thinking on my part to have Blanco up there, but let me dream AND even with Langy in his place (not leading off, of course) it still looks very good.  This team can compete for the pennant as it's currently constituted, so we shouldn't mess with it.  

by ejruiz on Jan 18, 2007 1:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well
The team does look good, but if we don't mess with it some then it would be incredibly difficult to compete without a second baseman ;-)
.....Matt

by yondaime4 on Jan 18, 2007 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

HaHaHa! Good Point.
Like I said in my original posts, the "???" are due to the fact that there are several alternatives for those spots, not that there are none.  I went with "???" instead of "Kelly Johnson/Prado/Aybar/etc." for the sake of space and not having to pick a frontrunner.  Same goes for the last two bullpen spots.  

by ejruiz on Jan 18, 2007 6:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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