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Scott over at SB Nation - Atlanta is all over this story. Minor's comments don't seem to be taken out of context in any way. This is a rather un-Braves way of acting, and they usually don't keep guys who make ultimatums around very long, especially when they have a whopping 23 Major League starts under his belt. Veterans shouldn't act this way, but young players especially shouldn't.

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This really doesn't bother me

I can see from his point of view that he’s probably tired of being brought up when someone gets hurt and then being sent down when that player is healthy again. It’s kind of a lack of confidence in you by the team.

Now though he has to go out and prove that he belongs in the starting rotation.

by jack dein on Feb 23, 2012 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

I don't recall...

him going back and forth. I could be wrong, though.

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by sddbaker on Feb 24, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

This is absolutely ridiculous

You earn you’re playing time in MLB, and this kid has the audacity to come out and make demands before the season starts? Are you kidding me? You get what you work for and deserve, you don’t get it handed to you because you demand it like a spoiled little kid. I had concerns about him after seeing him pitch at Vandy, and it appears I was correct. No wonder Beachy beat him out last year.

DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT

by leedawg on Feb 23, 2012 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

Read the comment

He specifically says this is only if he makes the necessary progress controlling his third pitch and throwing a decent fourth pitch.

by nixa37 on Feb 23, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

So?

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 23, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Based on his career numbers, that’s quite an assumption for him to make.

I guess I could say that too: If I pitched well, I should be an MLB pitcher.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

So you don't want him to be confident in himself?

And his career numbers are quite promising outside of the high BABIP and resulting higher than expected ERA. If that trend continues for another season or so I’ll start worrying about it at that point.

by nixa37 on Feb 24, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I do want him to be confident, but not naive. He hasn’t pitched well, outside of a good K/9.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Based on his career numbers,

small sample size. for both parties.

by JoelGuzman'sScout on Feb 24, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

But that small sample size

is what Minor is using to say he belongs…when, at best, he could be a 4th o4 5th guy on an average rotation.

He certainly doesn’t belong in our rotation right now.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2012 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

when, at best, he could be a 4th o4 5th guy on an average rotation.

Well, that’s a pessimistic outlook for him. I’m not a huge Minor fan, but I realize that he does have the tools to be a better than average MLB starter.

You'd think I was Travis Tritt struttin my FINE ASS on down to Florida

by Fatvirus on Feb 24, 2012 7:35 AM EST up reply actions  

It's based on what he's done so far

not on what he could do in the future.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

No he's not

He’s not even saying he belongs at this point.

by nixa37 on Feb 24, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

You and I didn’t read the same thing. That’s the only conclusion I can make.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Quote the part of what you read where he says he belongs at this point

You can’t because he doesn’t. He says IF he can improve, then there will be no reason he shouldn’t be in the majors. That means he still has to prove something before he belongs.

by nixa37 on Feb 24, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

“I feel like I proved myself,” he said. “I was in Triple-A all last year pretty much. The year before I had some time [in the majors]. I’m getting older every year, so there’s no reason for me to be sitting in Triple-A.”

There’s nothing conditional about that.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 25, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice job with the quotes

Everything he said is true and the part about him sitting in AAA is clearly contingent on him pitching well. Mike’s a smart guy. He knows if he pitches badly, then there will be a reason for him to be sitting in AAA. If he pitches like he did last season, then there really isn’t.

by nixa37 on Feb 25, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? You’re going to resort to pointing out formatting errors that cannot be fixed?

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 25, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You're just emphasizing different words

he is putting a ton of emphasis on the IF. Like me saying IF you think Kenshin Kawakami is a #3 starter, you an idiot that shouldn’t be allowed to breed. (Or if one thought there’d been 200,000,000 players in A ball). And then responding, I didn’t call you an idiot who should be neutered, I said “IF”.

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by Mr. Sanchez on Feb 25, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope they give him what he wants...

We are absolutely loaded with young pitchers and Minor might have the lowest upside out of the group. Maybe this will finally prompt the front office to part with a young pitcher and bring in a valuable bat. As an MLB ready left hander, we should be able to get someone who is capable of helping put the offense over the hump.

by letsgobravos on Feb 23, 2012 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

In what way? You don’t say something like that and go quietly back to Triple-A if the team doesn’t keep you in Atlanta.

by Scott Coleman on Feb 23, 2012 9:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Read the comment

He specifically says this is only if he makes the necessary progress controlling his third pitch and throwing a decent fourth pitch.

by nixa37 on Feb 23, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s about making the team, but if … I can control my third pitch and have a decent fourth pitch, then there’s no reason I shouldn’t pitch in the big leagues somewhere. If they don’t have room for me here, then there’s no reason they shouldn’t trade me.

In no way is he saying he won’t quietly go back down to AAA if he can’t prove those things during ST. Why are we assuming Minor can’t be honest with himself about his performances? I think there is an implicit assumption that he will pitch well. I want him to think that. If it doesn’t happen for whatever reason, I’m sure Minor understands that he’ll have to go back to AAA.

by nixa37 on Feb 23, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Because he said multiple times that he doesn’t want to pitch in Triple-A, he has nothing left to prove at Triple-A and he’s old enough that he doesn’t want to wait around in Triple-A for a few more years.

I’ll bet you anything that if Minor goes to the Minor Leagues at any point in 2012, he’s dealt within a week.

by Scott Coleman on Feb 24, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

He said it once according to the articles quotes

And we have no context for when it was said. For example, it makes complete sense if it came after what I quoted above that he was still talking with the assumption he continues to pitch well.

by nixa37 on Feb 24, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Regardless of how he actually meant it,

his comment still comes off as out of line.

It’s just something he shouldn’t have brought up at all

"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.

by TurnerTheBurner on Feb 23, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with it.

I’m not really getting the sense that he was issuing an ultimatum, just expressing his frustration over having to prove himself a third time. I can actually empathize with him; imagine how frustrated you would be knowing that you’re good enough for most major league rotations but still face the possibility of being shipped down to the minors.

by swainzy on Feb 23, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

Not really as brazen of an action as the headline indicates, but still not the place for a young, prospective starter to editorialize on his fate in the starting rotation. He seems to think himself above the “keep your head down and do your work” stage in the process, as demonstrated by his quote that he is “getting older.” Not sure what the end-game is here, but Scott in his article even concedes that he didn’t explicitly ask for a trade, or even mention it at all that I see, so it isn’t too horrible.

This quote concerns me:

“I’m 24 now, I’m not the young guy that just got drafted. I’m a college guy and I’m getting older and older, so you don’t want to wait. That’s how I feel about it. I don’t feel like waiting until I’m 26, 27.”

Wanting to wait or not is not really how it works…

"But if you just talk, I've found your mouth comes out with stuff." -Karl Pilkington

by GumpBrave on Feb 23, 2012 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

you know

he regrets it now that the headlines are written the way they are. what a great way to ostracize him from the rest of the team… insert chipper pissed off head shake.gif here

by MacsGlasses on Feb 23, 2012 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

He has a long way to go...

before he can call other players out for not playing hurt.

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by TBuzz on Feb 23, 2012 11:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Honestly, I can’t blame him. He wants to be a starter…. he sees Teheran, Vizzy etc… coming up behind him. Someone’s got to go. As long as we get something nice for him. A new SS or LF maybe?

by Braves Biceps on Feb 23, 2012 10:06 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, that’s pretty much exactly how I expect him to act. I for one can’t wait until he’s traded somewhere. I really don’t care if he projects as a 4th, 3rd or even a 2nd starter, he’s just a douche, and that’s very unlike Braves young players.

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by Rhyno18 on Feb 23, 2012 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

Send his ass out!

He doesn’t have the make up of a Brave. He seems like lack mental toughness in games when things aren’t going his way. I have also heard from other Braves fans at 2 of the Caravans this year that he was the least friendly Brave of them all. Also heard when they went to a particular hospital in Atlanta, a certain someone was playing video games….. by himself with kids waiting to be seen, while the other players were running around the hospital visiting as many kids as possible.

by BravesFanScout on Feb 23, 2012 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

I disagree with the idea that he may be the best pitcher on the team. He has never done anything to indicate this. He’s been mediocre, at best, at the MLB level – and that’s with the temporary added velocity to his FB.

I’d rather have Teheran and Delgado in the rotation than Minor at this point.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 23, 2012 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

Going a bit further

Here’s how I’d rank the Braves’ pitchers:

1. Hanson
2. Hudson
3. Jurrjens
4. Beachy
5. Teheran
6. Delgado
7. Medlen
8. Minor

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 23, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

seriously?

you’re gonna put a guy coming off TJ ahead of Minor?

It’s obvious you’re angry, but seriously?

by JoelGuzman'sScout on Feb 24, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Meh, His recovery time has been plentiful. Medlen should be just fine. An indication of this was the Braves willingness to let him pitch last season…even if it was only for 23 pitches!

I really enjoyed seeing Meds in 2010, but expect him to be the LR this season.

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by Poohjure on Feb 24, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

No. I’m going to put a guy with a better track record of success ahead of Minor.

Medlen came back from his TJ surgery last season.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Its not all that much better if you only look at Medlen as a SP

Medlen has a 4.31 career ERA as a starter. He also strikes out fewer batters, walks more, and gives up HR more often than Minor in that role.

by nixa37 on Feb 24, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Why would I only look at him as a starter?

He’s an MLB pitcher. I’ll look at his MLB totals.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't be serious

It is far easier to pitch as a reliever than it is as a starter. Medlen’s whole issue is that he only has 2 legit MLB quality pitches, so he gets shelled his third time through an order.

by nixa37 on Feb 24, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

And Minor has been getting shelled regardless of where in the order he is.

Medlen has been a better MLB pitcher than Minor. There is no way to even attempt to argue that statement.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 25, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That's because Medlen spent a lot of time as a RP

Minor’s numbers would look a hell of a lot better if he was used in that role too. Almost every pitcher in baseball would. That’s why the majority of RP are failed SP.

by nixa37 on Feb 25, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That's an assumption

that nobody can make, least of all us.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 25, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s literally hundreds of players that have fared better as relievers than starters in baseball. It’s an easy assumption to make.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Feb 25, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

And there are others who have done the opposite. It’s not a fair assumption at all to make that Mike Minor would have better numbers as a RP then a SP.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 25, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Kenshin Kawakami is an easy one right off the top of my head.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 26, 2012 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

You gotta do better than that

You’re talking about a guy who was barely better as a SP compared to an insanely small sample size as a RP (15.2 IP). He was also making the switch at 34, not 24. In general, it is a very safe assumption that a pitcher will do better out of the bullpen than as a starter. Its an even safer assumption in Minor’s case as he has little trouble sitting 92-94 in the first inning or two of his starts, before seeing his velocity trail off as a he tires. The guys who might do worse in short stints are the guys who throw harder later in starts as they loosen up more (think Verlander).

by nixa37 on Feb 26, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

So, either way, this is an assumption that none of us can make.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 26, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not?

Assumptions aren’t supposed to be 100% guaranteed. There is every reason to think Minor would be better as a RP than he is as a SP and no reason to think he would be worse.

by nixa37 on Feb 26, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve got reasons why he could be worse – what if he has a pre-game routine that he has to follow? What if he can’t just get up and warm up in 5 minutes? What if he mentally has to start to be effective?

Again – an assumption none of us can make.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 26, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

That applies to every SP making the move

And he throws much harder earlier in his starts than he does later. He’s the exact sort of SP that would be likely to thrive in relief/

by nixa37 on Feb 26, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

But we don’t know that for sure (although, it wouldn’t be hard to have better numbers out of the pen than he has had as a starter so far) – and in the context of this particular conversation (who’s better – Minor or Medlen) you certainly can’t just say “Well, Medlen has good numbers as an RP – Minor’s would be better!”

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 26, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed you could.

But you can also say that Medlen has been much better at the MLB level than Minor.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 26, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

As a RP he has

As a SP they’ve been roughly equal

by nixa37 on Feb 26, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

In his only decent year,
  1. was actually solid out of the pen.

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by Mr. Sanchez on Feb 26, 2012 7:17 AM EST up reply actions  

That should be #

3, not 1.

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by Mr. Sanchez on Feb 26, 2012 7:17 AM EST up reply actions  

But was better as a starter.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 26, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

His...

WHIP, ERA, HR/9, among other numbers was better in relief in that season (speaking of 2009, when he was an effective P). And that was with worse BABIP “luck”. His FIP was better (3.17 to 4.31) in relief. So SSS aside, he was arguably better as a relief arm in 2009 than as a starter.

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by Mr. Sanchez on Feb 26, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Overall

I’m not talking about one particular season with something like 14 innings pitched in relief.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 26, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Understood

I was speaking of his only effective year.

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by Mr. Sanchez on Feb 26, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Rog

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 26, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He only threw 2 innings his other season

So 14 innings is too small a sample, but 16 isn’t?

by nixa37 on Feb 26, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Point me where I said that was too small of a sample size, please?

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 26, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

serious as a broken leg

medlen’s been a MUCH better mlb pitcher than minor

oh what a pass by STEPHENSON! AND THEN ITS PAUL GEORGE!

by 15ks on Feb 24, 2012 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I love medlen, but if we are doing a pure cost-benefit analysis. Minor’s status as a lefty combined with Medlen’s ability to be the best long reliever in the game makes that a pretty win laden situation.

Medlen may or may not be a better starter than Minor. But is that difference greater than Minor versus Medlen as a starter added to Medlen’s value in the bullpen. I don’t think so personally. Medlen would be a made man in most of the other rotations/systems in the majors but (un)fortunately he is a Brave.

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by GumpBrave on Feb 24, 2012 3:26 AM EST up reply actions  

That's because he got to pitch a lot as a RP

Relieving is much easier than starting, especially if you really only have two good pitches like Medlen. As a SP, Medlen hasn’t been all that great. I’m not sure why everyone has forgotten this.

And if you honestly think a broken leg is as serious as TJS, I don’t know what to tell you. That’s one of the more ridiculous things I’ve read. I mean, a player’s career isn’t essentially over as soon as he breaks his leg for the second time.

by nixa37 on Feb 24, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

All this...

Medlen’s not been nearly as effective as a starter. Larger sample size for Minor starting, and he’s been considerably better.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Feb 24, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you really unfunny or borderline mentally retarded?

“serious as a broken leg” is an expression, not a comparison of a broken leg v TJS. I mean you could’ve just been running with the premise, but again there was nothing humorous about that paragraph. In addition, a players career probably IS over if he breaks his leg twice, its hard to keep rehabbing from something like that and stay at a major league skill level. On the other hand(Another expression, I’m not talking about pitchers who literally switch pitching hands during their career, try to stay with me on this, little buddy) there’s very little precedence for guys even needing a second TJS- it’s usually done correctly the first time and the players come back with an equivalent or slightly stronger arm that’s damn near bulletproof at the elbow. This is why there’s been a serious ethical discussion over whether to give standout pitchers the surgery preemptively around age thirteen for almost a decade now. So even if I HAD BEEN saying that a broken leg is as serious as TJS, it’s not too ridiculous of a statement .

oh what a pass by STEPHENSON! AND THEN ITS PAUL GEORGE!

by 15ks on Feb 24, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Way to resort to personal attacks

I’ve literally never heard that expression. Apparently google hasn’t either as its not a suggested search (unlike popular expressions) and there are seemingly no obvious examples that even come up when you search for it. But go ahead and call the former MIT student that put up the highest SAT score of any football player in GA as a senior in high school mentally retarded. Not like you should maybe look in the mirror or anything.

You also clearly know little about TJS. No one is having a serious discussion about preemptive TJS for kids. That’s bat shit insane, as has been pointed out by Dr. James Andrews to every single parent who has ever asked him about the subject. In no way does TJS make your arm “damn near bulletproof” and there is plenty of precedence of guys needing multiple surgeries (hell Jose Rijo had a total of 5 TJS while trying to revive his career). You just don’t hear about it all that often because the guys who need a second one generally go ahead and call it quits (as the success rate for second TJS is estimated between 5% and 20%). Some examples of MLB pitchers who have needed two in case your interested are Rijo, Al Reyes, Doug Brocail, Matt Riley, and Darren Driefort.

by nixa37 on Feb 24, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Try searching with quotes,

MIT Grad (who can’t figure out google).

oh what a pass by STEPHENSON! AND THEN ITS PAUL GEORGE!

by 15ks on Feb 24, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I did

It apparently isn’t as popular as you seem to think. I like how you disregard my comments that show you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Also I didn’t say I graduated from MIT (I transferred), though that’s really neither hear nor there. Just something to keep in mind the next time you want to call someone else a retard.

by nixa37 on Feb 24, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

And you didn’t respond to my earlier comments questioning your statement, by providing me with a similar list of guys who’ve overcome two broken legs to continue their career. As a discussion goes on, shit gets left out. Here’s another expression: “If you have to tell me how country you are….” Well If you have to tell me you went to MIT while showing Asperger’s-level inference capabilities, I’ll be about as impressed as if you tell me you’re a tenth degree black belt and bench 600 pounds. Im done in this thread.

oh what a pass by STEPHENSON! AND THEN ITS PAUL GEORGE!

by 15ks on Feb 25, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Because broken legs in baseball aren't common

The only reason I mentioned where I went to school is because you decided to personally insult me by calling me a retard. Now you’re resorting to calling my inference abilities Asperger level. Seriously, how old are you? Just remember, when you call the smart kid a retard it says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about him.

by nixa37 on Feb 25, 2012 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Guess I missed the one time I saw it used

It was in the script from a kid’s tv show…I won’t discuss what that may imply about you.

The main point is you compared one injury to another. I’m not sure why its supposed to be obvious that you weren’t being literal.

by nixa37 on Feb 24, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say it was a popular expression, I said it was an expression

Not only was it in a TV show, which already proves it wasn’t something I made up, if you bothered to look past page 3 of the results (good MIT-quality research habits there), it’s also used by some guy in a forum about aftermarket car parts or something.
I compared one injury to another only AFTER you made the ridiculous inference that I already had. The OP of the comment I responded to had asked someone else if they “seriously..were gonna put a guy coming off TJS ahead of Minor.” I responded “serious as a broken leg” Whether you are aware of the expression or not, someone with a good grasp of language can understand what was intended there. Essentially, they said ‘are you serious’, I responded ‘serious’. It makes ZERO good sense to assume I was comparing a broken leg to TJS.

oh what a pass by STEPHENSON! AND THEN ITS PAUL GEORGE!

by 15ks on Feb 24, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

You responded to a post about an injury by mentioning another injury

Yeah, I don’t know how that could ever be confusing. Like I said, I had never heard that expression before. Its not a common expression. Yet you immediately resorted to calling me a retard because I got confused. What exactly does that say about you? Notice, I still haven’t once personally insulted you. Seriously man, grow up.

by nixa37 on Feb 25, 2012 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

BTW I do love the visual I get thinking about this quote...
if you bothered to look past page 3 of the results (good MIT-quality research habits there), it’s also used by some guy in a forum about aftermarket car parts or something.

I can just see you searching frantically to find an example of someone using the phrase like you did and letting out a huge sigh of relief when some random dude on one forum used it in a similar context.

by nixa37 on Feb 25, 2012 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

You can argue Minor anywhere between #3 and #8 on that list.

You could put Hanson is low as #4 on that list. The gap between Braves starters in terms of quality is very low.

by Broccoman on Feb 24, 2012 7:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d like to see a case for Minor at 3 and Hanson at 4.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

One of these things is not like the other. A lefty has intrinsic value in a 4 righty rotation. If Minor can be competent at a major league level his status as a lefty gives him automatic points. Even though I love Medlen, I’d rank Minor above him for that reason. In fact, if we are dealing with an opening day appraisal I think Minor should be 4-6 on that list for sure.

"But if you just talk, I've found your mouth comes out with stuff." -Karl Pilkington

by GumpBrave on Feb 24, 2012 3:23 AM EST up reply actions  

legit gripe, but

why do it in the press – kind of sends a sign of immaturity – not good… will he bring his best stuff or if he doesn’t get his way – take his toys and go home…

by Jaghomer on Feb 24, 2012 8:18 AM EST reply actions  

wonder what management’s thinking?

by Jaghomer on Feb 24, 2012 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Ding ding ding

feeling this way, and expressing that opinion to management is one thing. Expressing this opinion to DOB opens up an entire other can of worms.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Feb 24, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

The judgment and maturity kinds of worms

"The Braves could use [Loney] at first base to help back up Freddie Freeman, and in return the Dodgers could get Tommy Hanson from the Braves."

by Cream on Feb 24, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha So much for the safe pick.

And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on Feb 24, 2012 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

lol

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Feb 24, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

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