Dodgers Have 5-run Seventh, Braves Fall 8-6
by TonyAlmeyda on Sep 3, 2011 12:00 AM EDT
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Watching a big lead slip away really hurts to watch.
The Dodgers scored eight unanswered runs after trailing early in the game to stun the Braves 8-6.
Atlanta's offense struck early against Chad Billingsley in the second inning. Michael Bourn delivered an RBI single with two outs, then another run scored when Martin Prado reached on Dee Gordon's error and Brian McCann capped the scoring with a run-scoring single. Two more scored in the third inning: Jason Heyward drove in a run with a groundout and Alex Gonzalez followed with an RBI double.
Brandon Beachy had a comfortable 5-0 lead after three innings and had faced the minimum, but Juan Rivera spoiled the shutout with a two-run single in the fourth. Rivera drove in another run with a single in the fifth. Beachy tossed six innings and struck out seven, leaving the game leading 5-3.
Entering the seventh, the Braves chances were good of securing the win with their bullpen. Arodys Vizcaino struck out the first batter he faced, but everything went south in a hurry. Three straight singles loaded the bases before James Loney unloaded them with a double. Two walks later, Vizcaino was pulled for Cristhian Martinez and he promptly gave up a two-run double to Andre Ethier to give the Dodgers an 8-5 lead.
Dan Uggla smashed a home run in the ninth, but Javy Guerra recorded the save anyway.
The Braves had at least one hit in every inning, but three double plays kept the damage minimal, the third of which the Braves got hosed on. Freddie Freeman lined out to second with two on in the seventh then Dan Uggla was doubled off second, but replays clearly showed he was safe.
Minor vs. Eovaldi tomorrow.
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Are you guys discouraged from being opinionated on game recaps? The game recaps use to have some fire and brimstone when we lost and good feelings when we won. But now all the recaps are just more informational. I dont know about others my my frustration from a loss is typically dampened by reading the frustration of others. Its therapeutic.
How’s this?
Our bats kicked so much ASS early in the game and gave Brandon Beachy a huge-ass lead, but that stupid Fredi Gonzalez let Vizcaino crap the bed and gave those damn Dodgers a win. F—k Fredi, and F—K HEYWARD!! HE’S F—KING USELESS NOW!!!
And those f—king Phillies won! F—K!!!
Is that better?
Twitter: @TAlmeyda
I could do a recap or two...
You know, spice shit up a bit. It’s my specialty. “Write your own recap” and all!
"It's not about me, it's about the team." - Martin Prado
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Sep 3, 2011 12:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I do miss your recaps. The ones this year are so stale and uninformative.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 3, 2011 8:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s a long season. Recapping games can become a tedious business, especially after a tough loss. And when your team has a safe lead in the wild card and no real shot to catch the division leaders, it can become easy to be … contempt with a standard recap. I know I do it.
"It's not about me, it's about the team." - Martin Prado
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Sep 3, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, I liked it when there was an informed yet emotional recap of the game provided by Talking Chop. I also like it when they had the WPA chart and stars of the game. That was some good stuff.
by Tomahawk Mafia on Sep 3, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I much prefer opinionated recaps, maybe a touch of humor. It’s nice to know what the author thinks, especially when they probably know much more about the sport than I do and can provide interesting insight an untrained eye might easily miss.
I think it’s much more interesting than reading a straight-up summary of the events of the game, which I don’t find that intriguing even when I’m not able to catch the game at all. I’d rather just look at the box score and view some video highlights.
I definitely appreciate the efforts of our fine bloggers here, but I hate to admit I usually stick to reading their other articles and just wind up coming here to see what everyone has to say about the game in the comments section. But since I’m able to catch the vast majority of games live I’m probably not the target audience for these recaps anyway, and I’m guessing a lot of people who can’t just want the details straight-up.
Our post game recaps
are syndicated. If you’re looking for somewhere to vent, try AJC. You will also find plenty of emotional, knee-jerk reactions, if that’s what you’re looking to read.
Good work, Tony
Twitter:Hey_Jude18
Eh, I know this comment wasn’t directed towards me, but I feel obligated to say that pain is just as actionable as ambivalence and I personally prefer the former in a fan-dom type setting.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
I prefer my recaps shaken, not stirred.
Oh wait a minute….that’s nightcaps.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
sure this game is a bit of a fluke
b/c Venters and Kimbrel were both unavailable but the way the rest of the bullpen collapsed was rather concerning
Most importantly, I hope this bad outing by Vizzy doesn’t set him back (or have Fredi completely lose confidence in him). Peter Moylan can’t come back fast enough.
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 3, 2011 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
I’m not too worried about that, and even if it did happen, we got more help coming, and I don’t think Vizcaino makes the post-season roster.
BP will be
O’ventbrel
Moylan
Sherrill
C-Mart
whoever isn’t starting between Beachy/Lowe (I’m assuming Hanson/JJ are both back by playoffs)
We’ll probably use a 6-man bench and 4 starters I think.
I think Vizcaino will be on the postseason roster
He had a rough night, but he’s got electric stuff. It gives the Braves a solid RH power arm. I know they’ll want to keep one or two vets in the mix, but I think it’s safe to say that most people would feel more comfortable with Vizcaino being their RH late-innings option rather than Linebrink.
If he finishes strong, he should get in over Linebrink. But I like the 6-man bench and 4 starters notion.
by Undocorkscrew on Sep 3, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Crushed...
Man I watched the Braves go from 5-0 up all the way to 5-3. After that, I figured that I was bad luck, but this is what happened? This sucks, and hopefully that was Vizzy’s big rookie suckage game. Good luck tomorrow Bravos, hope we can regroup.
Fun fact: We have won like 63 of 85 or 83 of the last 85 games where we score 5+ runs. (It came up during the game)
And we hadn't lost a five run lead at home
Since ‘06, a year I don’t want to think too much about, ever.
I like the caption. Fredi should have pitched a bitch ofter than horrible call on the Uggla dive back. It was a full scale joke.
"So MLB players’ various orifices have basically been running like open faucets on consecutive days. Look for Dan Uggla to dig some serious earwax out of his aural canal tonight. Either that or Mike Pelfrey will just vomit on the mound (which, let’s face it, would be better than what he usually does there)." - Paul Lukas
You can justify 3-4 arguments by Fredi during this game. But my question is:
Does Fredi Gonzalez have the Cox?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Does-Fredi-Gonzalez-have-the-Cox/282321441785395
(Near Arizonian self-promotion/laziness)
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Statistics can’t make this loss suck any more or less. This is a game the Braves definitely should have won. We need to learn to get some runs across in the 2nd half after a strong 1st half showing. If we could do this then a world championship is quite near.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
So I assume that sensitivity training was all for naught?
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Didn’t Joe quote a similar state earlier tonight?
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
We should all ask ourselves...
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Does-Fredi-Gonzalez-have-the-Cox/282321441785395
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Fredi Gonzalez
Has The Haas.
For you youngsters…that’s not good.
"So MLB players’ various orifices have basically been running like open faucets on consecutive days. Look for Dan Uggla to dig some serious earwax out of his aural canal tonight. Either that or Mike Pelfrey will just vomit on the mound (which, let’s face it, would be better than what he usually does there)." - Paul Lukas
I was told in the GT last night that letting a struggling young pitcher
work out his junk on the mound was more important really, than trying to win the game since we don’t need it to make the playoffs. As a team, we can “coast” the rest of the way and keep our guys fresh…because stats say our odds will be better in the post season if we do.
I made a comment that the shot of the faces of the fans in the ballpark after that ridic inning sure didn’t seem to share that sentiment.
That shot of the fans in the stands….
… they didn’t look too pleased they spent their hard earned $$ to come to the ballpark to watch a team with a "coasting" manager’s attitude tonight.
I just looked at the GT at the new comments after the game was over and read this – obviously from someone who actually attended the game:
Fredi Gonzalez needs to tell us…
which games he does not care to win. Then we can skip those games and avoid the disappointment of investing a whole night attending to a game he cares nothing about.
And after back-to-school middling crowds all week, they get 32,000 into the park tonight to see a game Fredi has no intention of winning.
That was disgusting.
by proudnole
I’m sorry, but I’m not on the bandwagon that you can throw away games. Ever, no matter what the “stats” say.
The stats don’t take out their wallet and decide to drive to the Ted with their family and drop down cash to see a game, fans do. And fans deserve a manager with a mindset try to win every game.
Not pulling Vizzy last night after the 4th batter reached base was not fair to him, Beachy, the offense or the fans.
~ "The NL - where our pitchers do more than just play with their balls." ~
Count me in the column
That doesn’t want his manager making decisions or even thinking about the fans when deciding who pitches.
Resting O’Ventrebel was way more important as was seeing if Viz could find it. Viz and Moylan are basically auditioning for the 6th inning in the playoffs.
by atlynkhtr on Sep 3, 2011 9:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There’s something to be said for losing the battle to win the war. Winning at all costs is what got O’Ventbrel overused in the first place…
by TBuzz on Sep 3, 2011 3:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't always agree with DOB, but gotta tip my cap to this comment BEFORE yesterday's game:
.
Braves need to avoid Dodger trap before Philly (full article)
As Braves fans saw so many times during their team’s 14-season reign as NL East champions, it’s better to go into the postseason with momentum than it is to go through the motions in the last weeks of the season, playing .500 ball under the guise of resting players or getting the rotation in order and all that.
Next thing you know, the postseason starts, and you’re playing a hot team and expecting just to flip a switch and go back to the level of performance that your own team had for so much of the season. More often than not, I’ve seen that backfire and before a team knows what hit it, it’s down a game or two in the short (five-game) division series.
So the Braves need to play well this weekend, win a series against the Dodgers and go to Philly with a chance to win a series and take the lead in their season series against the Phillies. Because if they are fortunate enough to advance to the NLCS and face the Phillies again, having any sort of mental edge, such as a better record in the season series and/or a series win in their most recent visit to Citizens Bank Park, could be important.
~ "The NL - where our pitchers do more than just play with their balls." ~
All I can say is
what the f*** was that? Not worried, but the losses lately have been ugly losses.
"I Farted" - Me, everday
How did Fredi mismanage the bullpen this badly in only 3 days?
O’Ventbrel had three days off (Sat., Sun., Mon.,) and last night two of the three aren’t available? It took three days for Fredi to negate that rest and overuse them. This is more the reason they lost than the fact that he left Vizzy in three batters too long to “learn from that experience and get him over the hump.” Hopefully this gets Fredi over his own mental hump and he doesn’t botch a similar situation in the playoffs, where Kimbrel and Venters wouldn’t be available for a game.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, uh, your opinion, man. -The Dude
Guys, we just expanded the rosters.
We needed to have someone warming up as Vizcaino blew the lead. And that “someone” need not have been named “O’Ventbrell.” There are other pitchers in the bullpen, even before September 1. And last night, the options were even more numerous.
Furthermore, this theory that this was good for Vizcaino is questionable also. The kid’s confidence took a shot last night. How will that help us in the postseason? (Am I the only one who believes Bobby Cox would have protected the kid’s psyche last night?)
Moreover, assuming the idea was to keep others fresh for Philly, the loss last night, coupled with Philadelphia’s win, was as costly as a loss to Philly next week. All the games count, not just the ones against Philadelphia. In fact, that’s been a lot of the Braves problems the last couple years, their inability to beat the teams they should beat.
Finally, you may not want to let the fans decide who pitches (neither do I), but you’d better act like you want to win a game in which you lead by 5. This is a business, after all, and with the start of CFB and the NFL, there are lots of folks competing for the sports fans dollar. If the Braves want to compete with the big markets in salary, they’ve got to put backsides in seats, and last night’s virtual capitulation doesn’t help do that.
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