Philadelphia Batters Atlanta 7-1.
by SCrebel10 on Sep 27, 2011 9:43 PM EDT
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Another key game, another bad loss. The Phillies battered Braves starter Derek Lowe and Atlanta's bats were nowhere to be found as Philadelphia beat Atlanta 7-1.
Lowe struggled from the start, giving up a first inning home run to Chase Utley to make it a 1-0 game early.
Philly added to its lead in the third inning, as Carlos Ruiz doubled to start the frame and Roy Oswalt reached on a sacrifice bunt that advanced Ruiz to third. Jimmy Rollins followed with a single, scoring Ruiz to make it a 2-0 game and putting runners on first and second.
Back-to-back sacrifice flies advanced Oswalt to third and scored him to up the lead to 3-0.
Shane Victorino singled to start the top of the fourth inning, and he advanced to third on a single from Raul Ibanez. Victorino came in to score on a sacrifice fly from Placido Polanco. Polanco's fly ball upped the Phillies lead to 4-0.
Rollins singled to start the fifth inning and chased Lowe from the game. Lowe finished with a line of 4 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 0 BB, 2 K.
Arodys Vizcaino followed in relief of Lowe and gave up a two-run homer to Hunter Pence two batters later. Pence's blast made it a 6-0 game.
Rollins added a home run off Julio Teheran in the seventh inning to make it a 7-0 game. Martin Prado homered in the bottom of the ninth, a solo shot, to keep Atlanta from being shutout.
St. Louis and Houston are currently tied at 5 in the fifth inning in Houston, so let's go Astros.
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The Cardinals were down 5-0.
It’s now 5-5. They fought back.
That says it all, doesn’t it?
"Rubber Factory" by The Black Keys is pretty good.
Helps keep my mid off this suck fest.
by another simpsons avatar on Sep 27, 2011 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
Ah Black Keys
Thanks for making me think of happier things. Their set at music midtown was pitch perfect.
after the Phillies went up 3-0, my friend texted me and said we should take out Lowe
I told him it really didn’t matter because a 3 run lead might as well be a 30 run lead the way we are swinging the bats right now. I took a nap instead of watching the last 5 innings of the game so I could stay up and watch the Astros game. At least they have some sack and some pride.
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
Is everyone gonna be over here or over there?
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
I closed the game thread in the 3rd inning
it’s full of fail
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
Bases loaded no outs for the Astros.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Six runs from the worst team in baseball!
That’s a good week for the September Braves.
I'd say the answer is a big "NO"
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
Bahahaha
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Well, he could have gotten arrested for another DUI on the way to the stadium tonight, forcing someone else to start.
by Nabb1 on Sep 27, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Do I rec or flag this?
"I’ll tell you one thing: The grass at Tiger Stadium tastes best."
by LesMilesEatsGrass on Sep 27, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
let it be, let it be
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
Let it be oh let it be.
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
+.08
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
by abraves257 on Sep 27, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well played.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 27, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
A NO that resounds all through the Ted
and yet fails to penetrate Fredi’s skull.
You really feel like he was going to have a good game there
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe I am forced to pull for the Astros to do what the Braves should be doing for themselves.
I may as well not even watch the Braves game tomorrow.
Only one run :(
I pray to Jason Heyward every night
by JasonHeywardisGod on Sep 27, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Braves would K, then vidro and get none
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
true
I pray to Jason Heyward every night
by JasonHeywardisGod on Sep 27, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Eveyone on post game comments, fussin' about swining at first pitches too much.
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
On my full page Braves schedule, I keep track of Wins and Losses, wins in blue losses in red, then put the monthly record by each month. I would LOVE to just be able to use my blue marker one more time…
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
I'm not feeling so gipper.
"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 27, 2011 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
So glad Fredi took his foot off the gas three weeks ago.
Genius management. Him and Ozzie in same division should make mets, nats and phils very happy.
Yup I was at that Phillies game where he didn't put in Venters cause he didn't care about the division
That just……took the steam out of us. From that day onward we have looked horrible.
I was at that Wednesday night game – where we lost in the bottom of the 9th.
Almost every Philly fan around me was asking why we didn’t use Kimbrel.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
at all in that series, and not once in this one either
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
Dear Fredi
I’ve seen enough of Lowe for this year.
-The Cloreman
i hope boston blowes it tonight
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
On that note...
I will see y’all tomorrow night, when our season will not end.
Goodnight.
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
Boston game....who the hell is R Lavarnway C
Well he is someone that hits 2 homeruns and steps it up…he wants to make the playoffs. Oh and ellusbury hit’s another HR….at least they have guys stepping up. Our guys…well they are just lying down taking it.
and not even askin for lube
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Chipper would like a word.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Fredi:
“It is what it is”… said twice in post game interview.
“We did it to ourselves” – when asked about blowing the large lead in the WC they had and is now gone.
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
"And it was what it was", which is a predictable and terrible game by Lowe
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Where are you getting these quotes?
"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 27, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
“We did it to ourselves”
Ummm, no. YOU did it to us with your terrible management.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The bats did it to us.
"I Farted" - Me, everday
by HeyMikey on Sep 27, 2011 10:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lowe did it to us – and Fredi.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
git sum mo RUNZ ASTROS!
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Nothing says September Braves...
Like needing a 100 loss team to handle our buisness.
by Frozen Fan on Sep 27, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Lowe: “I’ve got myself in the worst mechanical funk of my career”
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
um, yes we can see that. and mental funk as well.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
really kinda moot tho, since we can't score runs.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
True that.
I was hoping that with the supposed bullpen game tomorrow we’d have a chance, but honestly… Don’t even know anymore.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
So glad Fredi decided to keep him in the rotation and have him start IN THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THE SEASON.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
He’s taking the loss on himself…
But, the offense didn’t help at all. Again.
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
Well, before they could blink, they were down 3-0.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Tis true.
He (Lowe) said: He’s “bending like a tree in the wind”. Whatever that means.
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
WTF does that even mean...?
Is that a comment on his mechanics or just the fact that he’s getting blown over by hitters?
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
he needs to save the metaphors
for retirement. “I bent like a tree in the wind and it was time to call it quits”. Make it happen Lowe.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
If that’s a “bend but don’t break” metaphor, he’s wrong. He has broken. He broke a long time ago.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
someone must have just watch the 2nd Lord of the Rings movie today
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
Aye,
but you still have to score runs, whether your guy is giving them up or not.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but when we get down by a lot early on, it changes the way Fredi does things.
Fredi manages at every opportunity, and when the team is trailing by a lot, Fredi jumps at the chance to manage.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Even Ron Gant couldn’t hide his frustration post game about our hacking at first pitches every at bat.
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
Everyone starts swinging to tie the game with a lead-off HR.
I really hope we’ve seen the last season of Larry Parrish.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
If HE is our hitting coach next year, I will say horrible horrible things.
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
And you certainly won’t be the only one.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 27, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe saying at the end of the game that we needed to have a game plan to attack Blanton
goes directly against what Fredi said yesterday about how you can’t have a game plan bc the game changes so much throughout the game… Fire Fredi and hire Joe
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
But Fredi clearly was contradicting himself
Because if you notice, the game-plan against Lee is to swing early.
It’s worked for us in the past, and to an extent, it worked yesterday…at first.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe would make a really good coach.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 27, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He methodically and correctly explained why Heyward should be closer to the plate a week or so ago.
Meanwhile, Parrish farted a couple of times.
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 27, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Aye, this is true,
but playoff teams have to overcome adversity, even if the adversity comes from their managers. I just hope the Braves figure that out before the Cardinals do.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I do
but if we don’t and Fredi and Parrish get fired as a result, it would be worth it.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said...
…I want to keep making fun of the 2007 Mets. That’s it.
Anyway Lowe can be Kawakami’d?
Old Hoss is ready.
by Taylor Masters on Sep 27, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
Btw, how’s Rodrigo Lopez looking compared to Lowe right now?
Old Hoss is ready.
by Taylor Masters on Sep 27, 2011 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
id take him in a heartbeat.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Anyone compared to Lowe right now looks like Pedro Martinez.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn't matter when you score 1 run a game
we’d need maddux, bob gibson, and randy johnson to have even a slight chance
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
Or the Phillies rotation.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
so we need the phillies rotation
and need them to pitch against the current braves hitters- and this somehow will lead to a braves win…
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
No. We’d need their rotation in Braves uniforms to even have a slight chance.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
so we trade uniforms with the people in the visiting clubhouse tomorrow?
for starters
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
9 outs in Houston.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Feels like 100
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
The Phils will not lay down tomorrow night.
They are looking to set a franchise record of 102 wins.
It will not be easy for us to stop that from happening.
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
Gonzo's calf sounds like its worse than before
via DOB
"The Dos Equis guys want me to be the least interesting man in the world" - Drama
yeah he's a drama queen tho
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
pooholes swings at a ball that hits his arm
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
and he still lines out
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
So, are the Cards more dangerous tomorrow night if they lose again tonight (or) if they win?
Lose, they will be motivated to not be swept… win and they smell blood in the water for us.
Either way, I’m concerned.
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
I'm worried that we're gonna get swept, honestly
So I’m all for the Cards losing both tonight and tomorrow.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Why he should be fired immediately.
Asked before the game what his thoughts were of Lowe, manager Fredi Gonzalez said, ""My thoughts are he’s going to give us a hell of a pitching performance."
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Lowe has been bad for a LONG TIME NOW..
Just based off of that I am losing faith in Freddi G.. cmon son..REALLY?!
JuniorFamilia.com @radamez
Yeah, well
Fredi not known for his hunches. In fact, he should probably just go against whatever hunch he has, as it would probably produce better results.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Bobby Cox would have done the same thing.
He showed more loyalty to players who were sucking D than Fredi G has this year. Lay off of Fredi. It’s not his fault the players can’t hit, the pitchers can’t pitch, and the bullpen (besides venters, kembrel, and Eric O) sucks ass. And the reason Johnny, Craig, and Eric have sucked recently is because we have no one else in the bullpen that is reliable.
by BravesFanScout on Sep 27, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, we have tons of reliable guys in the bullpen, but Fredi refuses to use them.
Fredi sucks. Don’t make excuses for him.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Who else is reliable? Because i haven't really seen that many reliable guys.
Fredi does not suck! Is it his fault that we can’t score with the bases loaded and no out? Is it his fault that our starting pitchers can’t go 7 innings to rest our bullpen guys? Is it his fault Jason Heyward has sucked ass? Is it his fault that JJ and Tommy Hanson went down? Was it his fault that Kimbrel blew that 2 run lead to St Louis a few weeks ago? I don’t think so. THe players play the game and they have been choking on a fat D.
by BravesFanScout on Sep 28, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Vavaro, Medlen, EOF, Kimbrel, Venters, Sherril, Vizcaino, Martinez, Gearin, etc – all are reliable.
You’ll notice that there really is only one name missing – Linebrink. And yet, who has pitched in the most games recently? Linebrink.
And yes, it is Fredi’s fault that the starters can’t go 7 – because he pulls them in the 5th and 6th innings with low pitch counts.
No, it’s not his fault that we can’t score with runners on, but it is his fault that we give away outs in nearly every situation possible by trying to bunt. It’s also his fault that he has our worst hitter hitting in the most important spot in the lineup.
Jason Heyward has not sucked ass. In fact, he’s been pretty average. Now Prado has sucked – in fact, he has worse numbers than Heyward – as does Alex Gonzalez and George Constanza and Matt Diaz – and yet, it’s those guys who are playing instead of Heyward. That’s Fredi’s fault.
It’s not Fredi’s fault that JJ and Tommy went down. But it is Fredi’s fault that he hasn’t replaced Lowe in the rotation, and that he allowed Derek Lowe, our WORST pitcher (probably worse than Linebrink) to pitch in THE most important game of the season. That’s Fredi’s fault.
It’s also Fredi’s fault that O’Ventebrel is obviously out of gas. He used them at EVERy opportunity, whether it was high-leverage (completely appropriate) or with 4 run leads, or when down a few runs (Completely NOT appropriate).
It’s also Fredi’s fault that Larry Parrish is our hitting coach. It’s Fredi’s fault that he burns through our bench by sending up a switch-hitting pinch hitter, then recalling that pinch hitter after he has been announced and the other team makes a pitching change, thus burning 3 players in one move.
THAT is Fredi’s fault.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
One more thing that’s Fredi’s fault – when was the last time David Ross even had a plate appearance?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I looked it up too. lol
Point is, Ross is our best bat off the bench, and McCann is obviously struggling. Clearly, he won’t get tomorrow off, but why do we even pay our backup catcher as much as we do, and why do we carry a 3rd catcher if we are never going to use David Ross.
Heap could have used some days off over the past couple of weeks. We have a perfectly capable backup.
It’s just another spoke in the growing wheel of Fredi mistakes.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Implying in any way that you doubt your pitcher's ability on the day he starts
Isn’t something any manager would ever do. It’s just not smart baseball.
by jibbers on Sep 27, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Smart baseball would have been to have someone else start the game.
Fuck his feelings. He sucks and is our worst starter and gives us the worst chance to win the single-most important game of the season.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
+1M
Lowe has been awful, this was a very important start. You have to move Hudson up a day.
I don't understand why you say he should be fired for publicly showing faith in his players.
There are a LOT of reasons to fire him. Amongst them STARTING Derek Lowe…. But SUPPORTING the pitcher you’ve decided to start is not one of them.
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Thinking that Derek Lowe is going to give a hell of a pitching performance is borderline insanity.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
That's the funniest thing...
Our collapse hasn’t even been the biggest this season.
well braves country im going to sleep
ive been drained out from all these loses and have been sick the last 2 months no fun. Hoping i can wake up tomorrow and we can get are win !!! and the cards lose tonight !
this is like a nightmare worse and much longer than NLDS game 3.
sweet dreams!
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
TIE fucking game.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Welp, Cards tie it again.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
And does it really matter? They have fought hard and deserve to go to the postseason if they keep this up.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
It does matter…because if they win, we have a smaller chance of making the playoffs.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
My point is that this is all our fault. The Cardinals have played great baseball, and they continue to play great baseball. At the same time, we have played like a team that forgot how to win. And if we go to the playoffs, it will be by default.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
Cards want it worse than the Braves do
Pure and simple
"The Dos Equis guys want me to be the least interesting man in the world" - Drama
Watching this game is making me depressed because it reminds me that other teams can actually like, string together hits and score runs.
by Ivan the Great on Sep 27, 2011 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
this cards team is pretty damn clutch
by PhuckthePhillies on Sep 27, 2011 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
They didn’t give up down 5 runs
"The Dos Equis guys want me to be the least interesting man in the world" - Drama
by BravesDawg16 on Sep 27, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Meanwhile...
…the Braves have scored less than five runs total in their last four games.
wait till next year!!!
Being pragmatic & Honest I must say this season is over. Injuries, cold bats and an overworked bullpen is too much to overcome. Even if the Braves make the playoffs they have as much chance of advancing as Congress does balancing the budget. I am a Braves fan for life and look forward to next season and hope the team can correct its problems. Go Braves!
I bet our manager is showing the team this is how you play the game of baseball. Oh wait, Fredi is our manager, nevermind….
by PhuckthePhillies on Sep 27, 2011 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
Does Wesley Wright have a reverse platoon split or something? If so, why pull a righty reliever for a lefty reliever with Schumaker (a righty batter) coming up?
by Ivan the Great on Sep 27, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
Orioles trying to make some noise in the 9th
Tying run at the plate w/ one out.
I mention this because if the Braves have to suck I want someone else along for the ride.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN's Boston/New York bias comes in handy for once
It’s been “ZOMG RED SOX COLLAPSE THIS IS INSANE… and oh, yeah, the Braves are having problems too.”
orioles at the corners with 1 out.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Lowe can't be on the playoff roster if we make it....
Right? Hudson/Beachy/Minor/Delgado?
Please no Lowe.
Jason Heyward homeruns make babies stop crying.. Jason Heyward homeruns also make babies, period.
by TheMelkHasSpoiled on Sep 27, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
8-6 st. louis. gonna come down to tomorrow. let's go huddy holy fuck.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
In the Lesser League, the O’s are threatening to tie it in the 9th.
Runners on the corners in the bottom of the 9th with 1 out. 8-6 score in favor of Boston.
Weiters up.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
Every fucking chance the Cards get, someone gets a big hit for them
The Braves fucking suck. Good God
"The Dos Equis guys want me to be the least interesting man in the world" - Drama
they're gonna win this folks.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Gonna monitor this thread while I watch TopShot on DVR.
No spoilers! ;-)
I just love the intro graphic animation.
If we don’t play well tomorrow, I’m gonna have to hit the range to work off this frustration!
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
golf range? or gun range lol
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
8-6 Stl
The 2007 mets called, they want their collapse back…
9-6
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember when it was only 8-6
Those were heady days…
If the Cardinals win the Wildcard, you gotta tip yer cap.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
Yes and no at the same time.
They have had a GREAT run to catch us, but at the same time, they aren’t even playing that well. Struggled against Mets and Cubs, and same with Astros.
Jason Heyward homeruns make babies stop crying.. Jason Heyward homeruns also make babies, period.
by TheMelkHasSpoiled on Sep 27, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Obviously they're looking MUCH better than us right now though.
Jason Heyward homeruns make babies stop crying.. Jason Heyward homeruns also make babies, period.
by TheMelkHasSpoiled on Sep 27, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I was being sarcastic, but at the same time, was trying to predict what Fredi will say tomorrow night.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
Yes, don't worry, I know.
When I saw the tip the cap part, just trying to put a serious spin on it, haha
Jason Heyward homeruns make babies stop crying.. Jason Heyward homeruns also make babies, period.
by TheMelkHasSpoiled on Sep 27, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Has that happened before?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a chance...
…our misery ends tomorrow. Dear Lord, just let it end.
I has a sad
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
So basically we’re essentially playing 1-2 playoff games before the playoffs.
If we win tomorrow, we live. If we lose tomorrow, we may or may not live, but then the next game is a must-win if we do live.
by Ivan the Great on Sep 27, 2011 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
Whether we win the Wildcard or not, it doesn’t really change anything. We still had a horrible September and our manager/hitting coach are terrible.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
Braves can do that
I challenge Cards to score runs with runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs
This year is torture.
We will blow a eleven run lead in the ninth inning on thursday in St. Louis. Only way it can end.
if we have to play a 163th game?
who will be the SP?
Beachy vs Lohse
"The Dos Equis guys want me to be the least interesting man in the world" - Drama
by BravesDawg16 on Sep 27, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Will 163 be home or away?
I’ve paid no attention to this scenario until tonight
I've heard in StL
But I have no idea why.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
head to head record
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
If you really want to torture yourself
Think about how this would be over already if Kimbrel shuts down that Friday night game in STL…
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
We've given away a ton of games
picking one or another doesn’t really help at this point.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, yeah...
…but if the Cardinals don’t completely collapse against the Mets, they’d be about to go up one game. And if they don’t run like idiots last night, they might be wrapping up the wild card as we speak.
All true statements
I had this convo with somebody today…all 162 games count, but the recency effect is for reals.
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
If they didn’t blow 20-some saves this season, it wouldn’t have been even close.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Sep 28, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas. Zing!
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
that was one of the biggest loss of the year
and really gave the Cardinals a shot in the arm….Kimbrel’s inability to throw strikes to Punto…
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 27, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d say today’s loss was the biggest of the year.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone remember when we had the 2nd best record in baseball?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:39 PM EDT reply actions
time for a cardinals bullpen meltdown again!
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Full count
2 outs, 8-7 game, runner on 2nd.
Love it.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the AL
they have different rules there.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Ball game.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Welp,
Just ended. Sox stay tied w/ rays. Tomorrow’s gonna be veeeery interesting for a number of teams.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd guess about 4 of 'em
At least
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
Well...
…I could hand-wring all night, but it’s time to get stuff done. Stay miserable, my friends. I know I will.
I don't always feel miserable...
But when I do, it’s because of the Atlanta Braves. Stay miserable my friends.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
this team has not been fun to root for this entire month
they have one last chance tomorrow
David O'Brien #Braves Lowe: "I’ve let everybody down in here. But come tomorrow, this isn’t about my terrible year, this is about getting this organization to the playoffs."
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Hahahahahahaha.
Wow. Talk about trying to avoid the blame!
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see that in those comments.
The only problem I have with Lowe is his performance. I think from a personal standpoint he’s been great… Minus, you know… that one incident.
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This is clearly speculation on my part, based on my own observations, but Derek doesn’t seem to fit in with the other guys. Usually, he’s sitting by himself in the dugout. He rarely jokes around with the other guys – and he sucks.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
In September alone, they have had games in which they’ve gone 0-for-7 with runners in scoring position, 0-for-9, 0-for-10, 1-for-10, 2-for-12, and the topper, 3-for-20.
The Braves have gone 1-4 in their past five games and hit .188 with 10 runs. Four of those games were against the Marlins and Nationals. Two more teams going nowhere but home in a few days.
They have hit .181 (32-for-177) with runners in scoring position during the month of September.
It isn't Fredi Gonzalez's fault the Braves haven't hit either!
They have just choked, just like every other Atlanta team….besides the Atlanta Dream.
by BravesFanScout on Sep 27, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
No its his fault for horrible bullpen management, wasting outs with bunts/ hit & runs with slow guys with high K people at plate, bad lineups, and preaching a ludicrous aggressive hitting philosophy. Fredi has plenty of blame.
Really? It's his fault that the lineup hasn't produced shit?
It’s his fault we can’t hit with RISP? How do you know that the coaches are teaching and aggressive hitting philosophy? Are you in the clubhouse? I think you are delusional in thinking that the hitting coach and manger have that much to do with the hitting philosophies of players. Is it his fault our pitchers can only go 5 innings? I’m sure it’s his fault they can’t throw hit their spots
by BravesFanScout on Sep 28, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
With almost the exact same lineup, our OBP as a team has dropped 30 points since TP left. I’d say that a hitting coach has more to do with a player’s approach than you are giving credit for.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Exact same lineup?
Even if the personnel are similar now to last September, are you saying that 2010 Freeman is the same as 2011 Freeman? Or Heyward, Prado, and McCann? Not to mention replacing Melky/Ankiel/McLouth with Bourn, goodPrado with Uggla, or Glaus/Lee/ with Freeman.
I gonna go out on a limb and say this lineup is nothing like 2010’s lineup.
5/8 position players are the exact same. The other three, we replaced Melky/Diaz with Uggla, McLouth with Bourn and Glaus/Lee with Freeman – all upgrades.
So with an upgraded linup, we have a worse OBP…that certainly supports my theory.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
It certainly supports your theory
if you ignore everything I posted that refutes it.
If only you had…
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
"There's no place I'd rather be than on the mound," Hudson said. "I'll be having more fun than anybody in the stadium."
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
well Tim you have 0 margin of error
and i mean 0
WTF is with this epic comeback that I'm expecting
not coming from the Braves but maybe from the Cardinals. It’s so very depressing.
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 27, 2011 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
If Frank Wren is worth his salt, he will release Lowe this offseason.
9-17 on the season. 9-17!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wild card down to 0 after tonight.
enough said.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
i dont think you outright release him
but hide him in the bullpen and in case 4 of our starters go down i guess he can try to eat innings
I’d really rather just realease him and eat the salary, he is the worst pitchher in baseball
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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3rd worst
i think burnett and lackey take the cake
that would be completely stupid
Lowe still had a positive contribution this year and if you just consider him to be the 4th or 5th starter, he is that…just a really expensive one
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 27, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm sorry but he has not had a positive contribution in the last 3 months
before his last 2 starts he had the second highest ERA of people with over 150 innings. the way he has played the last 3 months he is not even big league material
9 games under .500 with a 5+ERA is not a positive contribution.
he is not even better than our 3rd best rookie starter.
i don’t care how much stock you choose to put in Wins/Losses. he was hardly a victim of bad luck. he simply…sucked in epic fashion.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
but he raise his K rate and FIP loves him
definitely strong indicators that he can potentially bounce back
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 27, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
This
His LD% is down, GB% is up, K rate is up, HR/FB is down.
It’s all BABIP related. Hits are falling, for one reason or another, and it’s not related to batted ball profiles. The walk rate is really the only thing that’s changed for the negative.
No one likes that explanation, but anyone worth his salt in analysis will say it’s simply a matter of luck.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I don't put a lot of stock in pitcher wins
but our awesome rotation only has 3 guys with 10+ wins, and nobody has more than 16.
That’s pathetic.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
"It's like we're living out a bad dream," Chipper says after Braves and Lowe are pounded 7-1 by #Phillies
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Fun Fact
Derek Lowe has given up 30 more Earned Runs than the next-closest starter (Tim Hudson) in 21 less innings.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
Linebrink has the lowest ERA of our pitchers who pitched tonight.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Alex Gonzalez is arguably our best hitter. Brian McCann is horrible in every sense of the word. O’Ventbrel makes me more nervous than Linebrink. This is the twilight zone we’re living in.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 27, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes I know
That was the point.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 27, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
He’s been god awful at the plate, behind the plate, eating off plates, everywhere. He carried this team throughout the first half and has been dead weight since coming off the DL.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 27, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The Choke is 2 innings away from completion.
Derek Lowe is a thief
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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To be fair
The offense looked the other way and held out the jewels.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Aye, from what I heard he got boo’d early and often.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
yes he did. mostly from the drunk students and young professionals i believe.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
If we somehow make it
What in the world is the team’s mindset?
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
winning. or maybe golf.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
if they don't make it
i hope they don’t get laid the entire offseason
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
lol
olololololol. Idk why but this made me laugh for a good two minutes.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
olololololol. Idk why but this made me laugh for a good two minutes.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
and, Cards are winning without Matt Holliday.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
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Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
by ATLandUNC on Sep 27, 2011 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I’m not usually one for childish insults, but……
Lowe blowes
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
The only thing that gives me hope is that we got Huddy.
And perhaps, maybe, we can scratch out a run or two.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Bright side. We have our 2 best going the next 2 days(If it goes to playoff)
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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Idk man
Beachy has not been good lately
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 27, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Better than Minor or Lowe. Would you want Delgado pitching the Tie Breaker(if it happens)?
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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Yes, actually
Him or Minor, who has been better than Beachy this month.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 27, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I would rather pitch Delgado against Cards in that tie breaker too if we get lucky enough and win tomorrow and unfortunate enough to have cards win too. Delgado was great against them last time he faced Cards. And plus, Beachy still kinda pisses me off because of that Sunday game against Mets 2 weeks ago where he walked the freaking pitcher to bring in a run then the next batter hit a 3 run double. We win that game if he can throw freaking strikes to the stinking pitcher. Give me Delgado over Beachy every day and twice on Sunday.
braves#1
I’m not sure I even want to be in the playoffs after watching this team fail down the stretch. What pisses me off more than anything is the fact that they don’t seem to really care.
You're an idiot
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Really? He’s an idiot for wanting us not to get to the playoffs by default, even when we would most likely embarrass ourselves?
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
My team hasn't made the playoffs in five f---ing years
You take any opportunity you can to get into the playoffs. Look at the ’06 Cardinals.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
by Syler on Sep 27, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m really glad that the Red Sox have collapsed down the stretch otherwise everyone would all over the Braves.
Simply put this team has failed down the stretch and doesn’t deserve to get to the playoffs.
If we make the playoffs, we deserve to get there.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
For the way the team played April to August sure. My problem is I see an embarrassment in the playoffs.
Playoffs are a crap shoot. Anything can happen.
Just look at the Giants last season, or the Cardinals from 2006.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Giants were playing very well at the end of the season last year. They also didn’t have two key starters on the DL.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
But they did have a terrible offense – and took down a Phillies team with arguably a better pitching staff.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
As bad as their offense was last year, it was much better than our currently is.
I won’t argue that in the playoffs, ‘anything can happen.’ But in reality, the Braves aren’t really playing like a team that is going to go on a huge run.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
Fair enough, but the Braves have been incredibly painful to watch for the entire month. I think that some of us just want the misery to end.
Obviously, we want our team to win. It pains us to see them lose, but this team just looks incapable of winning at this point.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
Who the hell cares how you get to the playoffs if you get there?
When you get there, it’s a whole new ballgame. The 2000 Yankees went 3-15 in their final 18 and won the World Series.
by AmgineRmEht on Sep 27, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If people start hitting, yes it does.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But I haven’t seen anything from this team to show that they are going to come out of this funk.
and I'm sure the 3-15 yankees show'd no signs either
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Yet
IF we make the playoffs he’ll still have a spot in the rotation
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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His back hurts from carrying around all that money.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
but how would we get rid of him?
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
Kick him in the nuts and release him. Teheran is better than Lowe and that’s all that matter, you gotta suck it up and eat his contract, unfortunatly he is that bad
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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Hudson, Beachy, Delgado, Teheran, Minor, Kenshin Kawakami, John Rocker, Phil Niekro(present age) the list goes on for better pitchers than Lowe
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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After this season I don’t see anyone wanting to take him. Best hope is that he gets off to a good start next year and someone is willing to take him.
Other than that he should move to the bullpen.
Not worthy of bullpen
I’d send him to AAA. He has as much value to this team as Heywards right sock
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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Heyward has been better than Prado, but I don’t see Prado getting platooned.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Freddi has something against Heyward.
I do too. I’ve thought so for a couple of months.
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 27, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Heyward : Fredi :: KJ : Cox
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the first thing you've written in this thread
That I disagree with.
It was an odd experience for a while there.
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 28, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
He also had a garbage-time home run during Lowe’s last mauling against the Mets
by AmgineRmEht on Sep 27, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
12-6
Game over.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
12-6 cards
which puts to rest any thoughts of a comeback by the stros.
showing why they are the 2nd worst team in baseball.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Cardinals score 3 more
Once again all after two outs in the inning
Hilarious possibilities:
All four WC contenders (I use the term loosely when referring to us) win tomorrow, forcing simultaneous play-in games.
Cardinals lose series to the Astros while Braves somehow win a game, causing my brain to explode.
by Ivan the Great on Sep 27, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
2012 Looks Promising
We’re going to get to find out how much the front office cares about winning by two important measures:
The presence of or lack thereof of Derek Lowe and Larry Parrish.
It may seem over reactionary to declare that “Lowe must go” at any cost, but I think we’ve reached that point. It is clear that his pitching ability has fallen below acceptable standards for a mid-market team that will have an average level of offense. Hudson, Hanson, Beachy, Minor, and JJ/Teheran/Delgado is solid; holding any of them back for Lowe is enormously detrimental to the strength of the club.
September has been a combination of horrible play and horrible luck. Today was the last day that the Braves controlled their own destiny and management decided to let our worst pitcher take the ball. I don’t know what to say about that. The Cardinals are about to win, pulling us into a tie with one game left. I fully expect to remain tied after tomorrow and lose in St. Louis on Thursday. I want the Braves to win but I don’t see how this team can. Changes are needed for 2012.
I think Fredi is more key than Parrish.
A manager worth his salt would have told Parrish to go with a different approach than the hack-attack.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true
Clearly, neither of them get it.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 27, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
So, next year we need better conditioning (obliques galore this year) and hitting coach for certain.
Our lack of offense has meant too stressful innings for our SPs and our BP worked to death.
Did we simply run out of gas?
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
every win and loss could cost you the season.
we are proving it now, and hopefully they take it to heart next year.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
if chipper can still hit home runs this time of the year
it’s not running out of gas, or at least it shouldnt be
Injuries to starters didn't help
forced BP to pitch more as the young guys can’t go more than 5-6. Bats started being icy around the same time… Yeah, we ran out of gas all right.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It was really the injuries to JJ and Hanson, or their decreased effectiveness (whatever the reason).
If you look at our scores minus the few weeks when Uggla and Georgie went berserk, we basically won by getting shutdown pitching and scoring a few garbage runs on homers.
Now, when Minor/Delgado are giving up a few more than JJ/Hanson would have, when Lowe craps the bed every start, and when Beachy hasn’t had a good start in a while, our offense is exposed for the black hole it is. And that’s the difference.
by Ivan the Great on Sep 27, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Reading comprehension: it is your friend.
by Ivan the Great on Sep 27, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Thinking JJ would give up less than Minor/Delgado is just faulty thinking. JJ was lucky then stopped being lucky.
I’m not so sure it was luck. He somehow started to have ridiculous control this season. When his control left, his numbers suffered.
He basically had the same sort of strand rates as the rest of his career. It was the walks, or lack thereof, that made the difference.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Jurrjens, DID, however, give up less than Minor/Delgado. I’m not speaking in terms of predictive stats, I’m speaking in terms of what actually happened.
The offense has been asstastic for much of the year. The difference is that, when you get 7 shutout or 1-run innings, an asstastic offense isn’t as much of a liability as when you allow 2-3 runs each game (or, if you start Lowe, 15).
by Ivan the Great on Sep 27, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Losing Jurrjens and Hanson hurt
But make no mistake, they had plenty of chances to score gobs of runs and never did. I’ll give Fredi a pass on this season, but Larry Parrish has got to be fired after this mess.
by AmgineRmEht on Sep 27, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
If Parrish is not fired before Spring training, the Braves don’t deserve to play in the major leagues cause they can’t hit sht.
I doubt he is on their playoff roster…Yankees’ pitching is a bit thin but it’s not that bad, I don’t think.
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 27, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
how sad is it when your team's highest run total for the year is 11
just for shits, the yankees scored 12 in the first inning earlier this yaer
The yankees had 3 grand slams in one game
If the braves did that I’d probably die of a heart attack.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
IF the Braves don’t make it, I’d love to see Tampa win it(if they make it). If not I’ll say Arizona.
I would want Brewers but i absolutly despise Nyjer Morgan
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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I'd like to see Tampa beat the NYY
Don’t really care about anything else.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
baseball season is officially over for me when the braves are out
then it’s football season
Cards still scoring
why am I still watching it?
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 27, 2011 11:23 PM EDT reply actions
very envious of how happy the Cards dugout looked
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 27, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Good for them!
At least a team that can play baseball will be going to the NLDS.
i turned it off.
tomorrow will be…… interesting.
i am in a deep deep funk right now.
wilson? wilson???
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Wishful thinking?
Hoping the Braves wake up and realize that the wooden sticks they have are meant to help score runs.
by mebravesfan on Sep 27, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, not even the TopShot episode improved my mood … it’s a sign to call it a night.
Hoping we’re celebrating tomorrow night y’all :-)
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
Hopefully the Cardinals are getting it all out of their system tonight
Brett Myers is going to be a tough opponent. He’s pitched like Javier Vazquez this month.
Damn this sucks, hoping for good luck tomorrow, because that’s really all we have to root for besides Huddy (and Myers)
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
If the Braves can't beat 9 innings of Joe Blanton and the Phillies bullpen
They deserve nothing.
i don't see how they deserve it even if they do win.
they just made a 4% probability that we’d be caught in the WC flip to 100%
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
They would deserve it because they would have the best record.
A team doesn’t lose it’s playoff deservedness because their bad month is the last one of the season.
By that logic, the Cardinals don’t deserve to make the playoffs because they were bad for a month too.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
And would have to give up their 2006 rings
Because they got damn, damn lucky that year.
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 28, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
We're long past if the can't do ____ they don't deserve it
They had a magic number of 16 with 19 games to play three weeks ago. Being tied with one to play…well. Yea.
by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 27, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
"Atlanta's bats were nowhere to be found"
Hasn’t that pretty much been included in the first paragraph of almost every TC post this month?
Tomorrow is another day.......
There is still a chance…….more than 20 other teams can say right now. They wish they could be in our shoes. We need tomorrow, let’s give some good mojo to our boys.
WWWWWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE WERE DOING SO WELL WITH NOT POSTING THIS!!!!!!!!!
Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Skins, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
BU Hockey: National Champions 1971, 1972, 1978, 1995, 2009
At this point
We need a change in the winds. This might do it!
by dragonhawk26 on Sep 28, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we should all support the Atlanta Dream!
At least they know how to win and be clutch. Second straight WNBA Finals appearance! Every other Atlanta franchise builds you up to let you down.
Falcons – best record in the league…. get blown out in their first playoff game.
Hawks – beat the Bulls on the road in game 1… get dominated the rest of the series
Braves – 14 straight division titles… 1 WS; 8 1/2 game lead Sept 1st… 0 game lead Sept 28th
Thrashers – Division title in 06-07; Get swept in the first round of the playoffs
UGA – Ranked #1 in preseason polls 2008; didn’t even win the SEC
by BravesFanScout on Sep 27, 2011 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
Could be me
Bills- Suck(although this year……)
Hawks- Can’t get passed round 2
Braves- Giant Collapse
Illinois- Stuck on Mediocracy
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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Mediocracy
A state in which the media rules the government. Did Blago have anything to do with that?
"The Braves could use [Loney] at first base to help back up Freddie Freeman, and in return the Dodgers could get Tommy Hanson from the Braves."
You could be me
Chiefs-need i say more
Braves-need i say more
Lakers-
Tar Heels-
Ok so I dont have it that bad. Is it College Basketball season yet…..Harrison Barnes—-player of the year.
oh man
i cant believe i spent 3 hours at work refreshing my phone clinging at hope the Braves would win. Good thing we have Huddy tomorrow bad thing its against Joe Blanton who is probably going to go 6 scoreless innings. Derek Lowe sucks so much but the offense is also to blame.
Has anyone seen The Office when Holly returns and Micheal sets up the “happy” and “sad” baskets for when he asks her to date him?
I might do the same thing
Angry- I’ll need to but up something that I can punch or hit with a baseball bat, presumably a punching bag. Also I will need to be near no one so I don’t have to talk to anyone. Also a vaccum for all the hair I pull out. I will indeed be “flipping a shit”
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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quotes.
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2011/09/27/braves-quotes-after-tuesday-loss-to-phillies-2/
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
"We’ve played 161 games with those guys, and I wouldn’t trade any of them [before] tomorrow."
Really? You wouldn’t trade Derek Lowe?
Either Fredi is just trolling us, or he is a complete moron.
I’d like to see ANYONE defend this statement.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you want him to say?
“Trade Lowe and a few of the guys that can’t get runners in from 3rd with less than 2 out.” I mean get real buddy. He isn’t gonna throw people under bus with one game to go in the season. He is being a true professional saying all the right things, just like Bobby did.
by BravesFanScout on Sep 28, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s the one that brought up the statement. The reporter didn’t ask him if he wanted to trade anyone before tomorrow. It was an idiotic comment to make.
I would rather him say the wrong things and make the right moves. Sadly, he’s saying “the right things” and making the wrong moves.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
and it's official
Braves no longer has a WC lead
:(
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 27, 2011 11:42 PM EDT reply actions
Being tied for the lead is better than not having it at all.
Twitter: @TAlmeyda
by TonyAlmeyda on Sep 27, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
MLBN just said “I know we aren’t supposed to pull for teams, but I really hope the Cardinals make the playoffs”
WTF?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:43 PM EDT reply actions
MLB itself
Is going to be very happy if that happens. I’m not making accusations but they’re dying to have Pujols and Cardinal nation in the mix.
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 28, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Playoffs begin tomorrow folks.
MUST WIN for ALL 4 TEAMS.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Tough to get excited for tomorrow’s game but we have to.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
dont worry guys
Silver Lining Gonzo and Fredi will be back next season. Since the FA SS pool is terrible and the Braves wont fire Bobbys handpicked successor.
On Lowe, surprised he hasn’t turned it around late?
"Hitters go through slumps, pitchers go through slumps. I think maybe we’re getting one of those right now with D-Lowe. But you’ve got to have confidence in your players. You’ve got to have have confidence that they’re going to be able to turn it around."
Fredi, he’s been in a 2-month long to a season-long slump. You DON’T have confidence in your players when the entire season is on the line.
You don’t HAVE to have confidence in him – especially when he’s given you NO reason to!
Fredi is a complete idiot.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:51 PM EDT reply actions
The Good News
.284 .339 .474 .813 - that’s Joe Blanton’s career line against Atlanta.
.250 .286 .600 .886 – that’s Joe Blanton’s line against Atlanta this season (1 game)
.311 .355 .515 .869 – that’s Joe Blanton’s career line at Turner Field.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
he’s only gonna throw 2 innings…3 at the most. Hamels may pitch an inning or 2 and the rest will be bullpen tune up if need be or AAA guys…FYI
Joe Savery is good people
by DirtyWaters on Sep 28, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
that would be almost apropo
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Hamels is only going to pitch one inning if the Phillies have a lead so they can get him a cheap 15th win.
by AmgineRmEht on Sep 28, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm….sort of like what happened last year?
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully we see a little bit of recent history repeating tomorrow.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
I meant the last game of the 2010 season.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
haha yeah it's set up exactly the same
hudson on the last days versus the phils in a must win
Yeah, it’s weird. And I believe we lost the second to last game 7-0… tonight? 7-1. Let’s hope tomorrow’s game is like the last game of the 2010 season.
by tomahawklove on Sep 28, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep. And aren’t I feeling like an asshole. Not only did I completely misjudge the market (though its tough to say with this collapse) but I did it a long time ago.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
First orders of business this offseason..
Fire McDowell and release Lowe
Why... McDowell?
Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Skins, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
BU Hockey: National Champions 1971, 1972, 1978, 1995, 2009
McDowell has done a damn great job, he's not the issue
Parrish is the one who needs to go
by AmgineRmEht on Sep 28, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
That is incorrect.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Call me a moron, but the Braves are still the favorites in this.
Tim Hudson’s pitching tomorrow. The Braves are 3-7 in their last 10 games. Hudson’s made 2 starts in that stretch and they are 2-0 in those games. The Phillies are throwing out Joe Blanton and the bullpen for 9 innings. Cole Hamels is only going to pitch one inning if the Phillies have a lead so Charlie can try to pad his win total.
The Cardinals have to face Brett Myers, who is right up there with Javier Vazquez as the best NL pitchers in September. Myers is 4-0 with a 1.24 ERA in September and the Astros are 5-0 in his last 5 starts. Rafael Furcal and Matt Holliday are out for the final game. If Chris Carpenter gets knocked around and/or doesn’t go at least 7 innings, they are screwed because La Russa has gassed the bullpen for nearly 12 innings in 2 games.
Still favors the Braves, but they are definitely capable of screwing it up.
MORON
just kidding. I’m right with you
by a hooter's baby on Sep 28, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know anymore...
I think I’m usually one of the more positive people on here… I’m actually positive to the point where I yell at people too much about how they’re being negative (sorry). But in the end…
It all comes down to 162. We’re gonna have a great pitcher on the mound and a great bullpen behind him and an offensive lineup that is absolutely capable of producing plenty of runs if everybody get’s their heads out of their asses. We clinched on day 162 last year… and if it happens again this year the season will still have been worth all the time in effort we all put into watching it (I mean… I’ve seen 120+ games this year and I’m sure some people on here have seen more).
It’s pretty simple isn’t it?
Go Braves, beat Phillies.
Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Skins, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
BU Hockey: National Champions 1971, 1972, 1978, 1995, 2009
Just once
this month i want to see the Braves score more then 5 runs i want the Braves to win dammit
Braves are 2-0 in Hudson's last 2 starts
Must make it 3-0
Harold Reynolds is shredding McCann
For that play where he told Lowe to throw it to third on Oswalt’s bunt
well, if it wasn't for that maybe lowe gives up 4 instead of 5.
doesn’t matter as we score one meaningless run in the 9th.
definitely have to cut down on those and any other kinds of mistakes tomorrow. come and swing the bats well and let huddy do his thing. i have faith in the braves and the astros, despite all this.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
ajcbraves
#Braves have called up top shortstop prospect Tyler Pastornicky, will be here for Wednesday’s game. Made move after Gonzalez calf injury.
I’m actually kind of excited by this although he most likely won’t see any playing time.
by drumzalicious on Sep 28, 2011 12:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wish he could pull a rookie catcher from Boston Lavarnway with 2 HRs and 4RBIs
In their most important game.
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Sep 28, 2011 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I've been to both games so far
And I’m going tomorrow.
Why do I put myself through this? I’m exhausted.
because you are a sick woman? Woman? right?
I’ll be there with you tomorrow
by a hooter's baby on Sep 28, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
the braves don’t deserve a playoff spot the way they been playing. Do ya’ll really want to see us get swept by the crew?
Yes.
The playoffs are awesome and I want to see the Braves in it. Umad?
,
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
;
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
If they win more games than the Cardinals, then yes, they certainly do deserve to make the playoffs.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Hudson gonna get lit up
Get the feeling umps gonna work against us
whos gonna be at home plate tomorrow?
maybe jerry meals will save our ass lol
Leo Mazzone
condescendingly derided Chuck Oliver for questioning D. Lowe before the game tonight. Sadly, this will not change his attitude.
the same twit who threw the Bearded One under the bus?
he is a buffoon.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Just bought Play-IN game tickets
I live in Kansas City (4 hrs from St Louis). Married to a Cardinals fan. I just went online and bought 4 seats for the Thursday play-in game in the hope that we actually win tomorrow.
Thursday is my 37th birthday….Happy Birthday to me…..we need a win…..
by Dale Murphy for HOF on Sep 28, 2011 1:19 AM EDT reply actions
Happy Birthday to you.
In honor of your birthday and most recent ticket purchase, I’m going to go ahead and guarantee a Braves win tomorrow. You heard it here first!
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Is this to me? It’s my birthday…
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
happy birthday!
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
OK
it wasnt to me i see this now haha but thanks!
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
unrelated:
The Dodgers scored 5 runs in the top of the 10th against the D-backs, but Zona rallied and Ryan Roberts hit a walkoff grand slam.
All after the first two batters grounded out.
Twitter: @TAlmeyda
ok, that's kinda scary
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
- B. Hawksworth relieved J. Lindblom
- W. Bloomquist grounded out to shortstop
- G. Parra grounded out to pitcher
- C. Gillespie singled
- M. Montero singled to center, C. Gillespie to third, M. Montero to second on fielder’s indifference
- C. Young walked
- J. McDonald hit for M. Owings
- J. McDonald safe at first on third baseman A. Miles’ fielding error, C. Gillespie scored, M. Montero to third, C. Young to second
- J. Guerra relieved B. Hawksworth
- A. Hill walked, M. Montero scored, C. Young to third, J. McDonald to second
- R. Roberts homered to deep left, C. Young, J. McDonald and A. Hill scored
Twitter: @TAlmeyda
Was at the game...yea it sucked
But Hunter Pence is the biggest D-bag ever!!! There were 3 kids (15 years old) asking for a ball during BP, but a blonde girl came and he suddenly gave her 2. What a tool…
Matt Ryan
5,200 Yards | 55 TD | 3 Int | 9 Rushing TD | Saves Sarah Connor | Becomes The President Of Libya
by Hudson's Soul Patch on Sep 28, 2011 1:40 AM EDT reply actions
I Don't Understand
What’s with all the hate going around for Fredi Gonzalez? I really don’t understand it. Of course he has made questionable decisions, all managers do, but let me take a moment to break down some of the most common attacks on Fredi.
1. The top of the list recently has been the fact that he keeps starting D-Lowe. Who else can he start every fifth day? Hanson and Jurrjens are injured, Teheran’s innings are being limited so he’s done. That leaves Huddy, Beachy, Minor, Delgado, and…..yeah, that’s it. As bad as he has been, we don’t have any other options for that every-fifth-game. None of that is Fredi’s fault. He didn’t get Hanson and JJ injured, he didn’t put a cap on Teheran’s innings, and he didn’t cause Lowe to completely lose any semblance of being a major league pitcher.
2. The lineups. Lately I have seen more complaining here about lineups than at Little League games when parents wonder why their kid isn’t batting higher in the order. Someone complains that Chipper is batting second and not in a run-producing slot. Then someone asks why Prado is batting second, moving Chipper to third in the order. B-Mac struggles and people say drop him in the order, then people complain when he is dropped in the order. Fredi played Constanza when he was hot, benched him when it was apparent that he had, in fact, come back down to Earth. Some people complained that Fredi took too long to bench him, some complained that he should have left him in there because J-Hey wasn’t doing very well. My personal preference would be to move Heyward up in the lineup to bat second again, especially since he is getting on base a lot lately. Pretty much Bourn, Heyward, Chipper, Mac, Uggla, Freeman, Prado, Gonzalez. That’s just something I would try, but other lineups could work just as well. You can’t change the lineup the next day if one doesn’t work. Ball players are creatures of habit, they have to get used to those types of things, then if it still isn’t working you change it again.
3. Bullpen use. Alright, yes, Fredi has mismanaged the bullpen at times. I can’t really blame him on the over-use of O’Ventbrel in the first part of the season. With as automatic as they were, I would have run them out there any time the game was close, even sometimes when it wasn’t just to be sure. The Proctologist ordeal, yeah, that was painful to watch, but Wren and Fredi eventually did the right thing. They made sure they were confident in their younger bullpen arms before they finally cut ties with the batting practice Juggs machine that was Scott Proctor, though they should have done so much sooner. It seems to me like our bullpen is fantastic when we have a lead, especially a large one, but when we are tied or behind they often seem to give up a few runs (example: tonight’s game). That scares me a little, but cannot be blamed on Fredi.
Could Fredi have done a better job this year? Absolutey. Does he deserve to be fired if the Braves don’t make the playoffs? Absolutely not. There is still (at least) one game left. This has been an epic collapse, but is not entirely the fault of the manager. Personally, I would like to see one of the veteran players (yes, Larry, I’m looking your way here) to actually get riled up in the clubhouse for once and light a fire under these guys. They have been way too calm in my opinion. Not panicking is a good thing, but being too calm can will lead to complacency, and complacency kills teams.
by DBelt on Sep 28, 2011 1:41 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Constanza never came down to earth
He injured his ankle in Chicago and he was never given a chance to play everyday again after that. The team went downhill fast when Constanza stopped being a piece of the puzzle.
But I ultimately agree, none of this is Fredi's fault
The only person that should be shitcanned even if the Braves win the World Series is Larry Parrish. This guy has no business being a hitting coach.
That’s just not true. The team played very well after Constanza was hurt.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Braves are 12-20 since Constanza hurt his ankle. What planet are you living on?
by AmgineRmEht on Sep 28, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What were they before Sept?
Obviously, the team is on a terrible skid now, but that isn’t because Constanza is not in the lineup.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Since August 15
(well before he was injured)
.231 .273 .231 .503
That’s the Constanza that “never came back down to earth”
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions
For comparison
.264 .356 .391 .747 – that’s Heyward’s line during the same time.
.224 .263 .303 .565 – That’s Martin Prado – our #2 hitter.
Here’s a look at the season numbers for some of our players. You tell me who is who:
1. .261 .304 .383 .687
2. .227 .320 .390 .710
3. .241 .270 .372 .642
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you a relative of Jason Heyward?
Serious question.
by AmgineRmEht on Sep 28, 2011 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No. I’m not.
But, I do tend to think that I understand the game of baseball, and that it makes more sense to play the better players and not bench them – especially benching them in favor of lesser talent and production.
Call me crazy, but in a playoff push, I want the best players out there.
I see that you have nothing to post other than asinine comments about me being related to a guy whom I have defended, based solely on his production, so I am assuming that the discussion is over.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
The team’s record during Constanza’s time in the lineup had MUCH more to do with the red-hot Dan Uggla, Freddie Freeman and Chipper Jones than the mediocre Jose Constanza.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree with every point you make.
1. Teheran, Vizcaino, Medlen, Martinez, hell, anyone but D Lowe. He is easily our worst pitcher with the possibly exception of Linebrink. And it’s not that he pitches Lowe in the rotation. That’s actually fine. But he pitched Lowe, the worst possible option, in the BIGGEST game of the year. We had virtually no shot at winning this game the moment he took the mound.
2. Benching Heyward, who has been better than Gonzalez, Prado, Constanza, Diaz, Hinske, and anyone else who has started over him, is a stupid move. Prado has been worse than Heyward, yet not only does Prado play every day, he hits in the most important spot in the lineup! That has hurt our offense significantly more than Heyward.
3. He has mismanaged the Bullpen all season – not just “at times.” He has used Venters and Kimbrel in games with 4 and 5 run leads. He constantly overworked them pre-ASB, and he DIDN’T use them in certain high-leverage situations post-ASB because he was trying to not overuse them. That’s completely illogical.
Does Fredi deserve to be fired? I don’t know. You tell me one good thing he has done this season. Just one…
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I do agree at this point Prado needs to be batting down in the order or something, no way he should be batting 2nd right now.
Sure, Fredi has overworked the bullpen that we ALL knew would hurt us sometime in September and or October. And, yes he has pitched them in some games that he had no business even pitching them in. But, the majority though, he has had to pitch them a lot cause of the close games and the ineptitude of our offense too.
Fredi def deserves some blame, because he could try to do something with the freaking lineup right now, and I totally expected Lowe to pitch bad, I was hoping he wouldn’t, but figured he would. The hitters also deserve blame, loading the bases with 0 out and not scoring and the countless runners LOB is crap. So much blame is deserved to go around, not one soul person responsible for this crap that has happened this month.
braves#1
That's why he gets paid though
Sure, it’s not his fault when someone fails to drive in a run. However, he is the Manager. He has to shoulder the responsibility.
If one of my workers does something wrong, I get blamed for it. Did I have anything to do with it? No. But, because I’m their boss, I have the responsibility to ensure that they do what they are supposed to do.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure, he should get a lot of blame, but no way he deserves all the blame. That’s a bit ridiculous. These hitters are making a lot of money, they gotta be able to get some timely hits, and make their own damn luck. The hitters in my opinion deserve just as much blame as Fredi, plain and simple.
braves#1
by rockybull on Sep 28, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But the problem is far worse than just the offense failing in run-scoring situations.
There is a huge laundry list of reasons that Fredi is not the manager for this team.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree about Fredi not really what we need. I think we need someone else. Would love a manager that is in-between Ozzie Guillen and Fredi with the players. Be a guy that will be a players manager like fredi, but at same time expects results, but not as fiery as Ozzie is. I like Ozzie, but he is just a lil over the top for most tastes. And also a guy that actually won’t use the good BP members in meaningless games and would do a few other things that smart managers would do, but their aren’t too many great managers out there though…
braves#1
I think someone like Ozzie (as much as I dislike him as a person) would be a good manager here.
Maybe we could talk Keith Law into coming…
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
We would probably be the only team in MLB with a reading list.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t dislike Ozzie, I just think he can warm out his welcome quickly and some players would get tired of it. If you could actually find a manager that is similar to fredi and bobby was with the relationship with the players, but also will want you to show results and also can manage a bullpen and other aspects that Fredi is inept about, then that would be a perfect manager for Braves. I just don’t know where the hell you gonna find that at though…
braves#1
Terry Francona is a good example.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions
and yet their calling for his head in Boston right now ;)
braves#1
by rockybull on Sep 28, 2011 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I Still Respectfully Disagree
1. Teheran’s innings have been limited, Vizcaino is a reliever now and it would have taken a couple weeks to stretch him out into the starter’s role again, Medlen has been hurt and doesn’t have the stamina to be a starter right now, and Martinez could give the team a solid 4 but then we get into that overworked bullpen very early in the game. I don’t agrree that this was the biggest game of the year. Today’s game is the biggest game of the year, and (if needed) the play-in game will be. We had virtually no shot to win the game when we scored one run.
2. When Constanza was hot he was a much better option than Heyward, Gonzalez plays a different position altogether so I don’t see how he could have been benched in favor of Heyward, Diaz has been very good against lefties since rejoining the Braves, and Hinske was very for the first part of the season. You have to play the hot hand and it never seemed like Jason got hot. Yes, his OBP is good (especially considering his BA), but he hasn’t driven in many runs, his power numbers are down this year, he isn’t much of a base-stealing threat, and he often seems to GIDP which kills rallies. Prado has also struggled this year and Fredi did take him out for a few games here and there, and I agree that he could have been rested a little more often to clear his head and let him get back in the groove.
3. So, realizing that you made a mistake and then working to make amends for that mistake is illogical? People complained about the overuse pre-ASB, like you said. They wanted Fredi to have more confidence in the other bullpen options. He gave other bullpen options their shots and most of them were average at best: Sherrill, Linebrink, Proctor, Martinez was good but you don’t want to waste your emergency long relief guy. Now Varvaro is pitching fairly well, Vizzy has been good, there are finally other legitimate options in the pen and so Fredi has tried to give the big 3 a bit of a break, especially since they haven’t been themselves lately.
Fredi has been at the helm as the Braves have made a push toward the playoffs. I don’t see how that’s not good enough. I didn’t necessarily expect to win the WS this year, though I was optimistic (and it could still happen). One year is not long enough of a tenure to fire someone over, unless we lost 120 games. Let him get adjusted to the team and vice versa. What about all those walk-offs and late game pinch hitters that came through? Would you say that Fredi made the right call on them? Sticking with Uggla and Conrad through their struggles until they both (finally) remembered who they were, wasn’t that a good move? He’s not my favorite manager by any stretch of the imagination, and I’m not even saying he is good. I just believe it is unfair to blame this collapse completely on him.
Cristhian Martinez
Would have much rather preferred to see him starting over Lowe
"I heard that Tits was "well rounded" and his brother Cans was a "stand out." :D"
by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM PDT
by BravesRaleigh on Sep 28, 2011 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions
touche
"I heard that Tits was "well rounded" and his brother Cans was a "stand out." :D"
by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM PDT
by BravesRaleigh on Sep 28, 2011 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions
We have Tim Hudson pitching for us now, so if we still end up losing this game and cards win, then they would have deserved to make it. This game will tell me a lot though. With our best SP(right now) going and likely blanton, hamels going 2-3 innings each and their bullpen guys coming in, we should be able to get some runs and really do some things. I think Hudson will pitch a great game and keep us in the game. We will see how our offense does and if they actually want it bad enough, if they can’t score but 1 or 2 runs off of the Phillies on Wednesday, then that says it all right there…
braves#1
If we can get the patient approach that we showed against Strasburg, then we will score runs. It really is that simple.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions
A question for the anti-Fredi guys
List a couple of names of potential managers you would like to see replace him. It’s a totally pointless exercise but so is most of what we do here.
I wanted TP to step in when Cox left. He is still my preferred candidate but I think his standing with the fanbase is probably too poisoned after last year. (In a more just world, he’d be late to the park every day because of having to fight through crowds of people apologizing to him, but that’s not going to happen.)
As I’m typing this, I see that Justin has listed Terry Francona. I would be pretty damn pleased if he wound up here but that’s probably too much to hope for.
I’ve long thought Chris Chambliss would make a fine MLB manager. He has history here, both as a player and a coach and was the Yankees’ hitting coach in the mid 90’s, so he’s clearly a guy who counsels patience and a smart approach at the plate.
Lastly, I would be fine with Don Baylor. It’s clear that we should have given him an offer to be the hitting coach here last offseason and his results in this year in Phoenix are similar to the good work he did here in ’99.
Chime in with some people who would be an improvement over Fredi but don’t list them all because the server might crash.
In-House Options:
Eddie Perez
Terry Pendleton
Tom Glavine
Dale Murphy
Outside Options:
Greg Maddux
Billy Wagner (hahahhaha – how awesome would that be???)
John Smoltz
Boog Sciambi (PERFECT!)
Personally, I would hope that they pick someone who hasn’t managed before and is stuck in their bad ways and habits. I want new, young blood and someone who is beyond “RBIs” and “saves”.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions
not to burst your bubble, but most of those names would be damn similar to Fredi, or should I say worse? I know, I know, a bold statement, but guys like Wagner, Murphy and those types, have they ever managed even a A ball team? I don’t know, but hard to just say some of these guys would be improvements. Be nice for some to at least get some experience in the minors or something, before throwing them into the fire and saying, well here you go, go manage a MLB team that has aspirations of winning a World Series.
braves#1
I think someone like Wagner could do very well. He’d certainly understand the BP side of things.
Speaking of that – can you think of any prominent former closers or RPs who have gone on to become managers? I can’t.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 28, 2011 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see a problem either. The BP is probably the one thing a manager can really screw up with mismanagement. Hitters and starting pitchers are gonna get the same amount of playing time league wide. Misuse of a bullpen can rot a team. Having a bullpen guy in there might work. In Fredi’s defense, its hard not to use your best guys on a team that plays as many close games as the Braves. But he has used our guys in games they weren’t needed.
Maddux's mound visits
“Dude, just throw a change up and get a ground ball. I want to get home in time to see Space Jam.”
I doubt he would do it until his kids get a little older but I would love to see Tommy manage. And I would love to see John’s intensity manifest itself in that role.
I didn’t mention Eddie before but he was a close second to TP on my wish list last year.
You mentioning Boog reminds me of the discussion that ensued when someone floated the idea a few years ago to Skip that he should manage. He said he wasn’t too wild about the idea of sporting a uniform in public.
Dear Tim Hudson.
Im not asking you to be perfect. Im just asking you not to let anyone touch home plate. The phillies pitchers could throw nothing but 85 mph fastballs down the middle all day. But we will not score more than one run. Anything you could do to win in spite of that would be greatly appreciated. Im sorry if that creates any added pressure. Perhaps you could get on base, advance yourself, and knock yourself in a couple of times? Whatevers clever. I have full faith you’ll get it done.
Sincerely
Frozen Fan
Fan since ’81
we need a repeat of this performance tonight
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
I woke up this morning and I realized....
this is a winning Braves baseball day. We have our best pitcher on the mound, and we are 1-4 in our last 5 games. All that means is we won the last time Huddy pitched, and we’re due for another one. Yes, 1-4 means even the Braves are due for a win tonight.
Keep the faith boys and gals.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
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