Looking forward to a disconnect (but not exactly what I had in mind)
This is a photograph of Cristhian Martinez with a paper cup attached to his ear. Why? Who knows. Who cares? Relief pitchers can be some fascinating people to observe sometimes. They do some weird things from time to time, but the common thing is that the motive remains the same: to keep loose, keep relaxed, and have some fun sometimes.
This picture was taken on Saturday in Nationals Park, as we all remember the Braves losing that game. I had some sweet seats right above the Braves bullpen, and I got to observe the Braves' relievers in their natural habitat. Unfortunately for me, Martinez's ear cup was probably the oddest thing of the day, as there was a pretty prevalent tension in the pen that day.
So what's the point of this post? Honestly, I'm having a hard time figuring that out myself too. I really like the passion, enthusiasm, and intelligence that this community is capable of, but with the good, there's always the bad too. That being said, having monitored some of the banter of recent open threads, and the general attitude among the majority, I have to say that I've seen and read some pretty horrendous things. Not everyone is capable of maintaining a degree of objectivity, and not immune to caving into their emotions. The Braves are indeed playing some crappy ball right now, and I understand that lots of people are frustrated, worried, and angrily concerned about the fate of the Braves' playoff aspirations. I get it, I'm concerned too. I just choose to reserve my right to blame everything on Fredi Gonzalez, laced with egregious profanity, or declare the Braves dead on the spot, and say that WE; not just the Braves themselves, but all of us as individuals, suck, are garbage, or are shit, because it's not fair to everyone, and it's certainly not true.
All that being said, I cannot wait for tonight's game. The team's most questionable starter is starting, against an opponent that sometimes looks like it's sadistically pushing down on the team's throat under a veil of feigned integrity (Can't say I'd blame them, if the tables were turned, I'd want the Braves to bury the Phillies too), and the offense still hasn't shown any indication that they're going to play any better tonight than any other day this month. But the evening holds great promise in my eyes; the weather feels like it might be cooling off, so it won't be hot as balls. The naive belief in the law of averages has to say that even the Braves are eventually due for some degree of turnaround, or at least scrapping together an ugly, nasty win for a freakin' change. The season's also coming to a close, and I always feel obligated to attend as many closing games as I can, with the fearful acceptance that time is running out.
But most of all, I'm looking forward to the disconnect from the computer, the basement, and not having the chance to read the pessimism, condemning, and lack of faith that has recently been the general mood a midst this drought. If that's your cup of tea right now, I'm not saying the least bit to stop it, because like I said, I understand why you might be inclined to act that way. It's also why I'm not going around issuing warnings and temporary bans to every single user who are getting flagged for perceived inappropriate remarks. But be aware that it can affect other people who don't feel the same way as you do, and reading enough negativity will turn anyone jaded eventually, and that's not necessarily fair to them.
So I guess there is a point to this post after all, I just had to type out 500 words before I actually got around to it. Either way, it's nothing personal. The mood here in general kind of needs to lighten up, so let's all (hopefully) get a chuckle out of this jersey I saw at Reagan-National Airport, while I was on my way out of DC, immediately after the embarrassing loss to the Nats. The best part is that when I spoke to the guy, it turns out that this is actually a game-worn Chris Resop jersey, as indicative of the unique tags that are only on the player uniforms. And that he got it on ebay, because it was cheaper than buying a brand new "Authentic replica" blank jersey.
Now that I think about it, it kind of disgusts me that Resop wore #39, because he was more or less putrid for the Braves. It's going to take at least another season of Jonny Venters excellence to erase all the bad mojo for #39, just like it took a few seasons for Jair Jurrjens to scrub out #49.
I'd say I'd love to suggest a meeting place for those of us whom are also going to tonight's game, but seeing how successful those always turn out, I'd say "look for me," but it's not like I'm going to be wandering around in something so very easily identifiable, so we'll leave it to brainstorming in the comments. But watching a win is always more enjoyable with fellow basement dwellers.
Apparently I was naive
To think that leaving the keyboard behind and going to the warm welcoming ballpark would leave all the negativity behind.
I'm not sure what it looked like in the Open Thread, but when Chase Utley hit his first-inning home run off of Derek Lowe, I imagine it was a lot like what I saw at the ballpark. Fans immediately began booing, murmurs of hateful remarks towards Lowe could be heard, and the general atmosphere of the park immediately felt as if twenty runners were on base, and Utley's homer brought them all home. I know the Braves are struggling mightily offensively, but even I had faith that a single, first-inning run could be overcome if the team could get even a modicum of their hitting prowess back.
As the runs mounted off of Lowe, the vitriol in the stands grew and grew, and I hate to say like I'm climbing up onto a high horse, since I'm more than capable of mouthing off with the best of the worst, but it was a downright ugly crowd last night. I came to the ballpark to disconnect from the negativity of my intelligent (creepy) internet friends, but instead traded off to receive the negativity of irate people in the stands, who actually paid money for this kind of performance so they feel entitled. If you didn't know by now, Derek Lowe was booed heavily and frequently, among other unpleasant words. Fredi Gonzalez got a rousing cheer when he came out to relieve Lowe, but once Lowe began the walk to the dugout, the boos rained down again.
The choir group that sang the national anthem prior to the game tried to get "We Will Rock You" started while the Braves were batting. Aside from their group, nobody around them joined so much as to clap with the beat. An inning after Derek Lowe was pulled, some lone drunk high up in 403 began chanting "DEREK SUCKS." Seconds later, numerous people joined in.
The biggest cheer of the night came when it was revealed that Houston had jumped to a 5-0 lead on the Cardinals. Unfortunately, that didn't last too long, which elicited more boos.
The atmosphere of Turner Field was downtrodden, weary, and overall negative last night, despite my hopes that better fortunes awaited at the park itself. Now I like the tangible and quantifiable, but I don't ignore intangible, and not necessarily explainable, so here's some pretty karmic shit coming here: If it were ever possible for negative energy to negatively affect the physical, yesterday really was it. We've all seen the Braves' players body language throughout a slumping month that makes the scoreless April of 2010 look like a buffet, but imagine knowing that things aren't right with your baseball skills, but all while your home crowd fans are either booing you, and believing that you have no chance in hell. Or both.
The underlying feelings I had leaving the ballpark yesterday was that it was an ugly, ugly night, both on the field and in the crowd, and that it was all kind of saddening and a little disgusting, overall. Not exactly what I was hoping for when I looked forward to disconnecting from the computer. The pessimistic defeatist attitude that affects a lot of folks here at TC has permeated far beyond the internets and well into Braves Country, and frankly, it just sucks.
The funny thing is that in spite of the tie standings, going into tonight's game is exactly the same scenario as last night's game: A Braves win, and a Cardinals loss = playoffs. The one game safety net is gone now, but even a loss is forgivable as long as the Cardinals also lose.
To answer those who say it doesn't matter if the Braves make the playoffs because they're probably just going to get swept, that may very well be the case, but I'd prefer that the Braves got swept rather than be lumped up with tragic collapses; LDS failures aren't exactly exceptional, four teams go home every year, whether it's in three or five games.
I'm disconnecting tonight as well, and still looking forward to it greatly, regardless of what kind of negative vibe will be wafting around the Ted tonight. There's plenty of reason to be optimistic, with Huddy taking the hill. The Phillies are trotting out Joe Blanton and the bullpen army, which hopefully will exploit inexperienced arms, and not Braves batting impatience. All while the Astros are trotting out a hot Brett Myers, who is tearing through September with a sub-2.00 ERA, sub-.200 batting average against, .78 WHIP, and a season's best 7.00 K/BB ratio who would probably love to win a Pitcher of the Month award.
The Braves needed to wait until game 162 to clinch last year, so all of this shouldn't be that much of a new thing. Sure it's frustrating, but a repeat of last year would be pretty kosher in my book.
I'll be wandering around in the upper deck mostly tonight, so if you see someone rocking a green Lynchburg Hillcats cap, that'll probably be me. Say hello if you see me. Hey, if the team is performing at the level of a High-A team against major leaguers, may as well support the appropriate skill level, and hope to be blown away.
To end this preach on a high note, yesterday, there was a guy in Section 433 dressed as Jesus Christ. He was carrying a sign that said "Even I don't like the Phillies." I lol'd, and I hope this makes some of you too. The team might not deserve your support in your opinions, but don't let that stop you from having a little faith that a win is possible.
This FanPost does not express the views or opinions of Talking Chop.
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Great post.
It’s definitely something we needed around here. I am guilty myself of saying some things I shouldn’t have…and although the Braves aren’t doing the best right now, we are all on the same boat together.
by WeStillHaveBobby on Sep 27, 2011 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
Great read
I agree 100%.
by 5InningsofChuckJames on Sep 27, 2011 12:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I wish I could rec this a thousand times.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Also...
I quit the game threads about a year ago, else I may have killed myself by now. Sometimes I just go back and read old ones for fun, though — as in really old ones.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
We’ve missed you, too!
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 27, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont go to them anymore either.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
Thanks...
And while it is easy to understand the frustrations,no one has the right to be rude.
Since Divisional Baseball started in 1969,not one franchise has won more titles than the Atlanta Braves. That is 42 years of baseball history. I am not one who thinks much of Wild Cards,but 16 Divisional Championships is something to be very proud of as a Braves fan,no matter what happens these next 2days.
by mikie baseball on Sep 27, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed
I have been thinking about a post of postiivism myself.. The negative attitude is so annoying I don’t even read stuff on this site any more. It’s bullsh!t actually. Especially when there is so much positive to see!
Chipper Jones is playing like he’s in his prime
AGonz is hitting as we move towards the playoffs
Uggla is still hot
Bourn is consistently awesome at the top
Freeman has cracked 20 homers and is ready for some post season juice
We have Diaz back!
Hudson is ready for the post season
Kimbrel is ready for the next level of undiluted adrenaline
Minor has been phenomenal
Delgado has been phenomenal
We have a lot of stuff to be stoked about..
Remember McCann is still the best catcher in baseball, Prado is one of the best hitters around, Heyward is still one of the best young talents in the game, Venters has the best pitch in baseball, Oflahrity has the best ERA in baseball, and all these stars are on our team—ready for the playoffs when their true baseball self will come forth.
Cheap son-of-a-gun
Probably got the jersey for under 39 bucks.
"Forget Roy Halladay or Clayton Kershaw or Cliff Lee, the NL Cy Young Award should go to O’Ventrel." - David Schoenfield, ESPN.com, 8/19/11
Yuck...
…though as I check ebay, even a Scott proctor game jersey is going for $79. At least it would be in perfect condition.
"Forget Roy Halladay or Clayton Kershaw or Cliff Lee, the NL Cy Young Award should go to O’Ventrel." - David Schoenfield, ESPN.com, 8/19/11
Brought a smile to my face - Rec'd.

~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
I agree with all this, and more...
But I’m reserving my right to call out every Henny Penny / Chicken Little mothereffer that’s stated they’ve given up on the Braves during the past week, if the Braves should prevail…quotes and all.
Someone needs hold the fairweather accountable when they beam their stupid smiley faces and say they kept the faith all along.
Oh yes, there will be a reckoning…
And, should the Braves lose, well, at least I can hold my head high knowing that some of us didn’t give up on the team.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Sep 27, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Be patient...
I wouldn’t do it during the playoffs. This would be an offseason project, if it comes to pass…no need to gum everything up further with more negativity.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Sep 27, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
excellent! by the way, do you recall 3 or so weeks ago, when we were discussing on one of the front page polls about the possibility of actually being in the hot water that, unfortunately, we now are in?
Absolutely. I was a firm believer that we weren’t in trouble. I still believe that.
There’s a big difference between negativity and giving up on a team, however. People can be negative, and I can agree to disagree. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
That said, I don’t see giving up on a team as an acceptable practice by a fan. I don’t see winning as a necessity for support. I liked the Braves long before they were good – and will long after they aren’t. That’s what being a fan is about (and I should know, my NFL team is the Bucs…that’s a roller coaster of fun and frustration). In the past week or two, people have crossed the line from negativity to jumping ship, however, and I don’t believe they should get a free pass.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
you need to make up your mind what city you are gonna root for… A Nebraska fan, a Bucs fans, a Braves fan. two of those three are not especially objectionable (one is obviously shared with me), can you guess which one is objecitonable?!!?!?!
By the way, if you need help with the negative nancy rapture that may or may not occur, I’ll be your muscle (although to be candid, I am not very big)
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
cthabeerman might need to line a small army of true badass guys to serve as cyber bodyguards. it could get ugly fast.
Lol, that’s the lamest thing I ever heard.
And I agree with most of what he said, but there are always going to be fair-weather fans / disgruntled fans online, venting. Putting together a small case against them and their “negative comments” is a complete waste of time.
-C
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
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Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 28, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
HEY you aren’t “-C”
you’re a phony, hey everyone this guys a phony
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
A big fat phony!
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Sep 29, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
This makes me wish there was some kind of like, roll call. It would be horribly divisive, and pretty pointless, but it would amuse me greatly. I’m envisioning a kind of sign-up sheet where you could sign up either to be pessimistic or optimistic, viewable by the public (or TC, what have you). Posting things in line with your chosen side would then be understandable and acknowledged as such, but come season end, one side could mercilessly mock posters of the other side/swear to disavow all input from members of the other side from here on out.
That way, people wanting to vent on the interwebs could do so, though at risk of officially being exposed for Chicken Littles should their panties-twisting prove pointless.
All in good fun, of course.
by Ivan the Great on Sep 27, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, rec’d even though I have stated in the past week that I don’t have any confidence in team right now. I still watch, but gosh damn it’s hard to watch sometimes. Hopefully we can pull something out. Just don’t be too harsh on me ;)
braves#1
There is a difference, though
of saying you don’t have confidence in the team compared to saying things such as “Fredi is the reason, we all suck, i’m hoping to lose, the players don’t care etc”
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Your comment on the law of averages...
…reminds me of an old song about the Cubs (it was titled something like “A Dying Cubs’ fan’s last wish” or something) that was hillarious and included references to Keith Moreland dropping a routine fly. Anyway, one of the lines in the song was: “The law of averages says that anything will happen that can. But the last time the Cubs won the National League Pennant was the year we dropped the bomb on Japan.”
Here are the whole lyrics.
Hillarious song. I was almost right in my butchered quotes.
Link: http://www.lyricstime.com/steve-goodman-dying-cub-fan-s-last-request-lyrics.html
I stated this exact sentiment in the most recent game thread and was absolutely lambasted. The reaction I received for commenting on the fairweather/the sky is falling fans was angering at the least.
It really gets me to see that a good majority of the ‘fans’ on this site voice their anger towards someone voicing at least one ounce of positivism.
"It just looks so far away, I pray to God I get there."
-Brian McCann on stealing bases
How about tonight's disconnect...
…having a more favorable result? We have Huddy vs. the Phillies bullpen, which is as favorable a match-up as we’ll ever have against them, but this is getting painful.
I'm hoping for more favorable fans too
Yesterday’s crowd at the game was pretty bad. It made me feel as if I were still on the internet, except I could see all the faces and people making horrendous remarks.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
An early lead would make a big difference, I'm sure.
Atlanta sports fans are notoriously fairweather. I guess this may be generally true of sports fans in most places, but it is definitely true here in Atlanta. On the other hand, if the Braves manage to actually score a few runs and it looks like the game is swingin’ back our way, the crowd will be reelin’ rockin’ and rollin’ / choppin’ chantin’ and stompin’ like crazy.
And you were hoping for more blind optimism being down 7-1 against Philly with the Astros getting pwned?
jeez
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
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Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 28, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
No
I was hoping for a little bit of faith when the score was still just 1-0 in the first, not people acting like it was 20-0 in the ninth.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
I hear you, but
I think it was lack of faith in Derek Lowe. Not the Braves. But, he plays for the Braves. So it came out as lack of faith in the Braves.
I’m a fool for even tuning in to DLowe’s starts this year. Complete fool.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
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Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 28, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions

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