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Atlanta Braves vs. Washington Nationals Series Recap

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Losing this series was certainly a punch to the gut of Atlanta's quest for a Wild Card spot. They continued to stagger to the finish line with the Cardinals stepping on their heels trying to trip them up. The good news is they're still ahead by a game and are headed home to wrap up the regular season.

Coming into this series, I personally expected winning at least two out of three. It figures, though, that the Braves were only able to beat the best pitcher the Nationals threw out there. They had beaten Chien-Ming Wang twice earlier this year, so after the Braves beat Stephen Strasburg, you had to like their chances, right? It's a mystery to me how they lost to Wang despite their success earlier this year. However, the end of Friday's game was plenty fun to watch.

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Sunday's game was just full of fail when they loaded the bases with no outs and didn't score. I'm not surprised when that happens anymore; that was the game right there. If anyone would've gotten a hit there, I think it would've been a completely different ballgame.

Tim Hudson pitched great until he cramped up, but Brandon Beachy struggled again; the Braves have lost his last five starts. Not a good sign.

Braves 1-4 hitters Saturday and Sunday: 3 for 31. 0 for 16 Sunday. Bleh.

Kris Medlen is finally back. YAY! This was my first opportunity at actually seeing him pitch. Last year, I could only follow on Gameday. He looked awesome.

I found it hard not to take exception to Michael Morse's home run celebration, but won't say anything else since some people might be sensitive to certain four-letter words.

Braves wrap up the season against the Phillies starting Monday. Let's beat them, please and get to the playoffs!!

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Phils are going to lay down

Lee, Oswalt and Hamels are going to pitch maybe 3 innings and after the 6th, you’ll get the Phillies triple A squad on the field…

by Ant$ on Sep 25, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate to sound negative, but I don’t even have confidence that we can beat their AAA squad after the last 3 series we lost to the shitty Mets, Marlins, and Nats.

braves#1

by rockybull on Sep 25, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

they can't count on that

besides, sometimes it’s actually tougher to see a different pitcher every AB then one or two.

by KMarch on Sep 25, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braves couldn’t beat a t-ball team right now. They are pathetic and Frediot is like a deer in headlights.

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 26, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Every stadium is these days

Largest bandwagon I’ve ever seen in sports……

To be fair, baseball is the only sport I watch.

by Undocorkscrew on Sep 25, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game 1: Guy we can’t hit followed by succession of guys we can’t hit
Game 2: Guy we can’t hit followed by succession of guys we can’t hit
Game 3: Guy we can’t hit followed by succession of guys we can’t hit

by Ivan the Great on Sep 25, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Monday: Lee vs. Delgado
Tuesday: Oswalt vs. Lowe
Wednesday: TBA vs. Hudson

Manuel said before today’s game that Wednesday is a bullpen-only game. Cole Hamels would pitch an inning or two from the bullpen, but he is definitely not starting.

by AmgineRmEht on Sep 26, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Playoff is starting early for the Braves

the safety margin is now completely gone, maybe some home cooking is all that is needed to turn things around. Nats were sure playing hard on Sunday, in their home finale.

by LEastCoastBears on Sep 25, 2011 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Funny thing is...

Next year this race will be irrelevant. Braves and Cards will be the NL Wild Cards… boring.

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Sep 25, 2011 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Cardinals will probably win Central

If you account for them adding Wainwright and the Brewers losing Fielder. Though the Cardinals could very well lose Pujols so who knows.

But yeah. The two wildcard thing will make these races less interesting.

by jibbers on Sep 26, 2011 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t talking about the actual scenarios next year lol

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Sep 26, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

New Wild Card rule

probably not going into effect until the 2013 season, but we’d have already popped the champagne. By then, the Phils will be old-timers, and the Pitchocalypse will be dominating the NL East

by rxadam on Sep 25, 2011 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

amen.

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Sep 25, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it my imagination...

…or do the Braves actually have more offensive weapons on the field this year than last, yet our OBP and scoring with RISP is worse?

It just seems on paper, we should be much better than we’ve played this year offensively. It’s painful to watch us leaving so many men on base.

I suppose our pitching has propelled us through most of our success so far and now it’s late at season’s end, they can’t do it alone without some offensive help.

~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~

by NCChopper on Sep 25, 2011 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know, but I think this is part of it. Last year we were brought down by a couple major production drop offs (see Escobar and McLouth) and poorly timed injuries (Prado, Chipper and Wagner). this year, for some reason, we are simply not scoring runs when a professional baseball team should be scoring.

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Sep 25, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget Glaus. When he was on that hot streak, the Braves were the best team in baseball for a stretch, then his production cooled off substantially and so did the Braves.

by Nabb1 on Sep 25, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget who?

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Sep 25, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I attribute some of it to our “more aggressive” approach per Parrish at the start of the season.

But, we’ve had a ton of 1run losses, which means your pitching kept you in the game, but the offense just couldn’t get a key hit when needed. It seems our entire pitching staff has had to pitch with not much room for error more often than not.

With Bourn, Prado, Chipper, BMac, Uggla, Freeman and a bench with Hinske, Diaz, Conrad – this team should scare the crap out of opposing pitchers.

~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~

by NCChopper on Sep 25, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

A simple, yet 100% conclusive stat proves you correct, in that last year we drew 634 walks as a team, and this year we are at 496. Now I know some stat head is going to come along and tell me why I am wrong, but I find this to be very strong evidence of our overall lack of patience at the plate.

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Sep 25, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

No stathead should really be arguing with that. The team’s offensive approach has fallen off a cliff. This is evident both in the stats as well as the observer seeing everyone hacking at the first pitch, the second pitch, and every other pitch.

Hell, even when the team draws a few walks to get guys on, the next few guys absolutely hack at the first pitch anyway. It’s baffling.

by Ivan the Great on Sep 25, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can somewhat overlook it with the rookies, but for veteran players that should know better … makes me scream at my TV.

~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~

by NCChopper on Sep 25, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rookies… Freeman? He’s been the most consistent bat in the lineup for most of the year…

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Sep 25, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, thankfully!
I was speaking more in general terms. :-)

~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~

by NCChopper on Sep 25, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I just gotta yank the chains

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Sep 25, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

;-)

~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~

by NCChopper on Sep 25, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

These quotes from Ross sound similar to what we're saying:
“Mike Minor pitched his [rear end] off today,” Ross said. “We’re not asking these guys to do something they’re not capable of. They’re good players. It’s not the young guys who are not coming through. It’s us as a team not doing the things we need to do to get runners in.”

OUCH… “The Braves have hit just .193 (36-for-187) with runners in scoring position over their past 23 games. They have scored two runs or fewer in three of their past four games”.

~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~

by NCChopper on Sep 25, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That stat at the end makes me cringe

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Sep 25, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that killed the pitching staff. Too many high-leverage innings. Our pitching staff is on game 190 already.

by Broccoman on Sep 26, 2011 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think all of it is this new “aggressive” approach. Last year our guys saw more pitches and walked a lot more. That in turn puts runners on base and creates more scoring opportunities.

by drumzalicious on Sep 25, 2011 11:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If Alex Gonzalez can get hot so can EVERYONE on the Braves.

If anyone knocks baseball I get upset, because I think it's a wonderful life.

by BeatTehMets on Sep 25, 2011 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I think its time for a lineup change

Bourn
Freeman
Chip
Uggla
McCann
Prado
Heyward
Gonzo

by drumzalicious on Sep 25, 2011 11:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Freeman bats second in my MVP 2005 game (^.^)

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Sep 25, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prado's got to get out of the #2 spot

Put Heyward back there. His OBP is through the roof in September.

by AmgineRmEht on Sep 26, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s surely helped by hitting in front of the pitcher.

by drumzalicious on Sep 26, 2011 12:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He started off hitting in front of the pitcher last year. When he was moved to 2nd, he kept getting on base. It’s worth a shot. It’s not like he’d be replacing an OBP machine in Martin Prado.

by redwards95 on Sep 26, 2011 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take out Prado vs Oswalt (unless he has a really high career avg against him) and put in Hinske and I’d like it.

by redwards95 on Sep 26, 2011 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't really have much to say about this series

Proctor just gave up a 3 run HR in the 14th so I looks like the Red Sox will take a 1 game lead into tomorrow too. Felt obligated to mention it

by wpf3211 on Sep 25, 2011 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

LOLZ SCOTT PROCTOR!

Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Skins, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
BU Hockey: National Champions 1971, 1972, 1978, 1995, 2009

by SuperNewb on Sep 25, 2011 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I think its time for a lineup change

Bourn
Freeman
Chip
Uggla
McCann
Prado
Heyward
Gonzo

by drumzalicious on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Bourn should be sitting

On Monday, thinking about why you don’t bail out a pitcher who’s walking the park. Constanza should be starting in center and leading off.

by BrianJx on Sep 26, 2011 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Failure has consequences

However “crucial” you may be. Bourn was so “crucial” that he, more than any other player, won the game for Washington. He needs to know that he is, in fact, part of a team.

I’d have him ride the pine for at least the start of Monday’s game just to make sure he knows that.

by BrianJx on Sep 26, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

No it isn’t.

My dad told me his teammates got fined in the minors for doing what Bourn did.

3-0 bases loaded pitcher walked the last guy 4 straight you take two strikes.

by Broccoman on Sep 26, 2011 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever the merits of that

This isn’t the time to be making that kind of point.

by Sam Jethroe on Sep 26, 2011 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Being aggressive is the explicit hitting philosophy of this year’s team. They’re hardly going to punish Bourn for following the game plan.

by redwards95 on Sep 26, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

what about burger flipping or earnings per hour? just curious.

by fandave on Sep 26, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool story, bro...

And we all know how well minor leaguers are paid, so much that they can easily absorb fines.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Sep 26, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is my lineup: Prado is one of my favorite players, but we need to try something else here and this is what I would do for last 3 games of year:

Vs Righties:

Bourne
Constanza
Chipper
Uggla
McCann
Freeman
Heyward
Gonzalez

Vs Lefties:

Bourn
Constanza
Chipper
Uggla
McCann
Freeman
Prado
Gonzalez

That is just my thinking at this point, maybe I am wayyyy off, which is fine, but I think we need to shake shit up, and I think this is best way. I would like for Freeman to bat third against righties, but Chipper isn’t a 4th hitter, so its either 2 or 3, and I would rather put Constanza there. I believe we need to see if Constanza can help get shit going. This likely won’t get used, but I think this could possibly help. I will be very disappointed in Fredi if he just uses the same lineup, when it clearly needs changing.

braves#1

by rockybull on Sep 26, 2011 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Vs Lefties

Why Constanza and not Diaz?

by redwards95 on Sep 26, 2011 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

To expand upon that, I have more faith in Diaz’s multi-year career of killing lefty pitching than in Jose’s lucky (unsustainably high BABIP) first month of his career.

by redwards95 on Sep 26, 2011 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

ya, and we were rolling with Constanza too, the offense has fallen flat this entire month. Not saying it’s all Constanza, but at this point I go back to that and see if we can salvage the year, because it’s not working what we are currently doing…

braves#1

by rockybull on Sep 26, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

because I am hoping Constanza can be a spark plug, that’s why. I like Diaz, but was hoping Constanza can be more of a spark plug.

braves#1

by rockybull on Sep 26, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets not be trapped into throwing the ball and chain over the side of the ship..

with it tied arund our necks. Baseball is a sport to be enjoyed. Why not for the Brewers who haven’t been in the post-season in a long time? They went out and captured the banner. I can’t cry over a team that has done the way the Braves have in Sept. It is much more enjoyable for me to root for The Brewers or the Cardinals. I admire the way Pujols has carried his team……I’ll return to the Braves in the off season after the WS. Its no problem to look to 2012 with hope in my eyes again.

He whose words outnumber his deeds, know that his death is better than his life.

by KomaGawa on Sep 26, 2011 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Brewers actually made the playoffs in I think 2009, the year they traded for Sabathia.

braves#1

by rockybull on Sep 26, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

ya, knew it was 2008 or 2009, couldn’t remember which.

braves#1

by rockybull on Sep 26, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we throw Derek Lowe and Lance Parrish over the side of the ship at least?

by redwards95 on Sep 26, 2011 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Silver Linings

- Cardinals face Wandy Rodriguez on Monday night. He beat them in his only start against them this season, a 5-3 win in St. Louis on July 27. This was his line:

W (7-7) – 7.0 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 6 SO, 0 HR

- Cardinals face Brett Myers on Wednesday night. Myers has been dominant in his last six starts. In his last six, he’s 4-0 with a 1.41 ERA. He’s got 31 strikeouts compared to just 6 walks. Opponents are only hitting .180 in that stretch. The Astros are 5-0 in his last 5 starts. However, he does face Chris Carpenter.

- Charlie Manuel announced before Sunday’s game that Wednesday’s game #162 against the Braves would be a bullpen-only game. Manuel said Cole Hamels will pitch in that game, but would likely pitch only one or two innings depending on his pitch count. Given the struggles of the Phillies’ bullpen as of late, this can only be good news about Wednesday’s game.

- Cliff Lee (Monday) and Roy Oswalt (Tuesday) will likely pitch no longer than 5 innings or throw more than 50 pitches, whichever they reach first.

- Ryan Howard is not likely to play much in the series due to ankle bursitis. Hunter Pence (patellar tendon strain) and Placido Polanco (groin) are also hurting and may not play much.

by AmgineRmEht on Sep 26, 2011 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

basically

If we don’t win these games we don’t deserve to be in the playoffs

by drumzalicious on Sep 26, 2011 1:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

correct

we lost 2 out of 3 to the Mets, Marlins and Nats, so if we lose 2 out of 3 to the Phillies and Cards pass us or tie us for WC and they beat us in the 1 game playoff, then ya, we don’t deserve to be in playoffs.

braves#1

by rockybull on Sep 26, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

If the Braves and Cardinals have to play a tiebreaker on 9/29 in St. Louis, the pitching matchup would be Brandon Beachy vs. Kyle Lohse.

by AmgineRmEht on Sep 26, 2011 1:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Playoffs or not...

reality is that this team didn’t improve over last season…at all. A sweep of Philly will result in one additional win after adding Uggla, Bourn, and the youngsters.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Sep 26, 2011 6:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last year we lost Chipper and Prado late. This year we lost Hanson and Jurrjens late. It’s hard to win when you are missing key players. If the Braves could just stay largely healthy next year, they would push the Phils for the division.

by redwards95 on Sep 26, 2011 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's about an equal loss, right?

No improvement then.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Sep 26, 2011 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

the reality is the Braves have had another very good year, overall. For 2/3s of the year, CF was a black hole, Uggla was terrible offensively for half the year, Prado was very mediocre at best, Heyward and Lowe and Proctor were all just generally bad, Chipper, Moylan, Jurrjens, and Hanson all missed substantial time, Medlen missed the entire year except for one inning. We relied extremely too heavily on rookies and three relievers. And despite all that, we did very well for the substantial majority of the year.

Yeah, I’d like to have seen more consistency and at least 96-98 wins, but whining and bitching about a 90+ year season in which we were at the very least highly competitive is just a bit hard to swallow.

by fandave on Sep 26, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Spin much?

We lost basically nothing in the offseason and added Dan Uggla, then Michael Bourn at the deadline. To have zero improvement in the win category is not good. Heyward regressed big time, Prado had an off year, Uggla struggled as you said, Chipper is a ~2 WAR player at this point in his career, Lowe imploded… not. good.

Plenty of bright spots, sure. McCann, Freeman, O’Ventbrel, the young pitchers including Hanson, JJ’s first half, Huddy gave us what we expected. Unfortunately it’s just not enough. This team has to find some consistent offense somewhere.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Sep 26, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

spin? today’s start by Delgado is the 50th rookie start this year. Based on no research whatsoever, I would bet that their have been no more than 2 or 3 teams to ever be in the post-season with a comparable number of rookie starts.

by fandave on Sep 26, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Braves lost one of the best closers in the history of the game and replaced him with a rookie. They lost a proven performer at first (albeit one brought in during August) and replaced him with a rookie. They moved a player to a position he’d never played before. They lost last year’s setup man (most forget that Venters wasn’t the only 8th inning guy last season). They lost a starter to TJ surgery and replaced him with another rookie.

The fact that the Braves stayed even under such circumstances, even with Uggla’s addition, is pretty effin’ good. Most teams would kill for one rookie being a top-five ROY contender. The Braves brought in three…if anyone expected all three to do so well at the beginning of the year, that would have been an asinine belief. Rookies struggle, and you’re talking about three very important roster spots.

I’ve said it a million times, and I said it at the beginning of the year. The 2011 Braves are a wild card-contending team in a bridge year. 2012 isn’t looking to be much different, in all honesty. I expect the team to strongly compete for a playoff spot, be it the division or the wildcard. Win 90-95 games. 2013-14 is when the team is really going to start making its stride to league dominance. You’ve got to let the young guys get a couple years under their belts before you expect much more than that.

In the end, I think all these reporters that decided to choose the Braves as the trendy pick for the division ruined a lot of people’s expectations for this season. The team is still really young, is carrying a few bad contracts, and that’s enough to bring an organization with this salary from league front-runner stature to wild card contender.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Sep 26, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure and we’re not currently in a recession because the economy has grown a lot in the last 50 years.

by redwards95 on Sep 26, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no response at all to that apt and insightful analogy.

by fandave on Sep 26, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd for truth

Stay alive, Braves fans. This race is far from over for you guys!

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Sep 26, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

very well typed sir, very well typed

If Halladay, Lee, and Hamels all break their arms while playing tag in the clubhouse, We'll be set

by suicide bunting is a sin on Sep 26, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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