Braves Blow Big Opportunity In Shutout Loss To Nationals
by TonyAlmeyda on Sep 25, 2011 4:55 PM EDT
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PrintBases loaded, no outs...you have to score.
That's exactly what the Braves didn't do in a gut-wrenching 3-0 loss to the Nationals.
The opportunity came in a scoreless tie in the third inning after David Ross singled and Nationals starter Ross Detwiler walked both Jack Wilson and Mike Minor with the top of the order behind them. Two shallow fly balls and a ground out later, the game was still tied.
The offense failing in the third inning led to a Wilson Ramos home run in the fourth; that was the only run Minor allowed in 4.2 innings. The Braves put together another scoring opportunity in the fifth with two runners in scoring position and only one out, but again failed.
Michael Morse hit a two-run homer in the seventh, sealing another Braves loss.
The only silver lining from the game was Kris Medlen's first game back from Tommy John surgery. He tossed a perfect eighth inning.
The top four hitters in the Braves lineup went 0 for 16 with five strikeouts.
The Wild Card lead is down to one heading to the final series of the season.
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Fully agreed
This is not team that deserves to go to the playoffs. I could care less what they do against the Phillies although it seem pretty obvious that they’re done. Frank Wren has got some big decisions to make in the offseason, #1 involving whether or not he wants a capable hitting coach.
I am absolutely disgusted…
I want to disagree...
but ever since Philly swept us we have been TRASH!
Tomahawk Chop The Competition
I still believe...
the Braves will find a way. The Phillies don’t want to play the surging Cards in a 5 game series. If the Braves win on Monday it becomes very difficult for the Cards.
The thing is this team isn’t good enough to make a playoff run. We have one starter capable of pitching past the 6th inning and the team can’t hit. I know the Cards pulled off a title a few years ago after limping into the playoffs, but there’s a reason why that team will always be remembered. That hardly ever happens. It’s the exception to the rule.
Twitter:ChopAttack
Here's the thing
The Phillies aren’t gonna let up because of the Cardinals, or any team. It won’t be a factor in that final series. They may decide to rest their starters, who knows? But who gets the WC won’t be a factor in their minds whatsoever.
This is absolutely sickening.
by Undocorkscrew on Sep 25, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
They've already let up...
The Phillies have been in a shell since they clinched. They’re playing worse that us right now.
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Yeah
But they also haven’t had anything to play for over these past couple of series.
What are the pitching matchups? I know Lee and Hamels go in game 2 and 3, but Worley pitched an inning+ today…..
by Undocorkscrew on Sep 25, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Sick
I feel sick, I can’t take this crap. They keep playing like this I don’t even want them to make the playoffs, it will be even more frustrating.
by CooperstownChipper on Sep 25, 2011 5:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
This team is flat, and it looks like that’s not going to change. Even when we win a game, we then continue our lackluster approach.
For those of you who still ‘believe,’ how do you really think this team will fare in the playoffs? Be honest with yourself. If we make the playoffs, great; but this isn’t the year. We’ll be out in 3 or 4. The Cardinals have a much better chance of beating the Phillies in the postseason than the Braves. This is my silver lining.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
We suck, and deserve to lose.
Like the Braves, I’m ready for the off-season.
Hopefully Fredi and Parrish both get the ax.
With any luck, the Phillies put us out of our misery.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
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Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 25, 2011 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
Martin Prado is useless.
Still 2nd in the lineup.
by another simpsons avatar on Sep 25, 2011 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
I disagree that he is useless
However I do think our lineup performed better with him lower in the lineup. I’d like to see.
Bourn
Freeman
Chip
Uggla
McCann
Prado
Heyward
Gonzo
by drumzalicious on Sep 25, 2011 6:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just don’t get how this team cannot get any clutch hitting; it’s not that bad of an offense. What made me sick was after fouling off a bunt for strike three, Ross goes to the dugout, where he and Bourne laugh about it. That right there speaks volumes. What this team needs, if it hasn’t been done, is a good old fashioned ass chewing by Chipper or Fredi. Almost seems like this team is in denial that it’s on the verge of one of the major meltdowns in recent history…
Agreed. Why laugh about how such a stupid, stupid play.
Though you claim that we don’t have that bad of an offense, I may have to disagree with you. Some of our offensive players are good on paper, but are they REALLY that good? Time to reevaluate.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
Agreed
23rd in BA , 24th in OBP, and 20th in Runs Scored – spells we are a bad offensive team !!
by bravesfaninchitown on Sep 25, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Chipper is NOT a leader
When have you ever seen him get onto someone for anything? He’s even admitted that Smoltz was the leader when he was on the team and that after he left he “decided” it was time for him to take charge if he “had” to. Its pretty obvious he doesn’t want to be a leader. He’s a player not a leader. Just because you are the veteran on the team don’t mean you are a leader, and Chipper obviously ain’t a leader. Its even been said before that Prado was the leader on the team. The team’s not had a real good leader since Franco left, I believe many will agree with me on that.
Means nothing
How is that leadership? Leaders don’t go to the press, they confront the player. I take that as a sign of being afraid, not as a sign of leadership.
answer to empty seats
If there are no changes, no consequences for players AND coaches, the answer to why this team doesn’t draw well should finally be clear, even to the bank of computers at Liberty Media which actually run the club.
"I don't care about that. The players don't want to read about the damn manager." - Bobby Cox after some late 90's milestone.
by AmosM on Sep 25, 2011 5:03 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
This team is done
I predicted that if the lead was 2 or 3 at the end of today, we’d make it, and if were 1, we’d blow it. I stand by that prediction. Any team that scores one run in two games in the heat of a playoff race deserves to watch the playoffs from home. Gutless. Absolutely disgusted.
Freddi, Parish, Prado, and Lowe should all be gone before next year.
Freddi is a shit manager. Parish makes me long for Pendleton to return.
Prado has almost no value as a player anymore. If he can’t hit .300 and draw walks he is useless. He’s not even a good utility player because he sucks on defense everywhere you put him.
The only reason to keep him is if we plan to eventually move him to 3rd base; otherwise, he shouldn’t be considered irreplaceable.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
Not this season he doesn’t. He’s hitting .263/.306/.386 with 12 Hr’s. His WAR right now is .8. He’s not even 1 full win above replacement. When he hits around his career numbers he is valuable but he has been terrible this year and I blame him for a lot of our problems. If I have to watch him try to sidecar a ball at 3B again I’m going to puke.
I was on Prado side
but now I wouldn’t mind Wren making an upgrade in LF because Prado just isn’t cutting it this year. LP should be fired because it seems like Chipper helps players turn it around more than he does. Fredi I’m sure is a great person but he makes so questionable decisions alot! Like killing our bullpen and yanking the young starters out so fast. This is really sad to watch
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Basically I have the same opinions about Parrish & Fredi. Lowe is obviously awful. Prado, I feel, is just in a slump & while he may not be cutting it in the 2nd spot, he’s not consistently weak like the other 3. I’m not against the Braves upgrading in LF with Prado going back to spot starting at 3rd & super-utility, but the idea that if “he can’t hit .300 and draw walks he is useless” is completely absurd.
He is pretty much a average player that will be getting paid like an above average player next year. He isn’t a good defender. He doesn’t hit many homeruns, doesn’t drive in runs, doesn’t get on base enough, doesn’t steal bases. To be a starter on offense you have to be good at something, he simply isn’t.
My problem is that if he wasn’t a Braves no one would consider him an upgrade. He’s a easily replaceable player.
How quickly you forget.
By your “calculations,” most of the Braves shouldn’t be starters. AGAIN, Prado is having an off year & comparatively does not stand to make that much more next year. I’m not exactly sure why you’ve chosen to focus on him when the entire team is sucking it up right now, but regardless, placing him in the same category as Larry Parrish & Derek Lowe is absolutely ridiculous.
Yeah he’s having a down year, I get that, but he’s making $3.1M this year and will probably get to $5M next year. Is he worth that is the argument. I don’t think he is. I’ve always thought he was overrated. He’s not good at any one thing. He’s not really bad at anything either but he is replaceable.
The reason I’m keying in on him is that he has been bad all season. Unlike a lot of players who are in bad stretches most of them had some very good stretches also. He never did.
“he has been bad all season”
That’s simply not true. And you continue avoiding the same issue I have repeatedly brought up. Is Prado as bad as Derek Lowe? As you brought up, he’s making $3 mil whilie Lowe is making $15 mil. Well?
No he’s not as bad as Lowe. Lowe was a bad panic signing when it happened.
Prado had a good May but has either been hurt or bad since then. It’s just my opinion that he is a pretty easy player to replace.
I would not be surprised if he was traded this off season. I don’t think the team will non tender him.
On a side you ever notice how many people we stick in LF that fail in hitting their first season.
BTW...
Looks like you must not have been paying attention to May, because he had a great stretch before getting injured in early June. Maybe you missed the 10-game stretch in which he had 8 multi-hit games against the two best NL teams and the Nationals.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
We still have a 1 game lead. If we win and Cards lose tommorw, worst that happens is a playoff
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Huge IF
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
WE are in the drivers seat right now. I still have faith we are still alive, I’m sick of everyone saying it is over. These people shouldn’t be Braves fans if they don’t think we can still make the playoffs.
Sme of these people were probably people talking abut wh to pitch in the NLDS and how the playoffs are a lock…
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Didn’t you just call the Braves ‘chokers’ above?? Guess you changed your mind pretty quickly.
No one said it was over. We are saying that Braves are playing terrible baseball and showing no signs of life. They MAY make the playoffs, but they will most likely go nowhere.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
We have lost 3 series in a row against shitty teams and shitty pitchers
Now we are going against the best team in baseball who will be looking for momentum after a losing streak for the playoffs facing good pitchers and the Cardinas who has been hot the last several games are going against the worst team in the MLB in a hitters park for the best offense in the NL. In my opinion we have less chance to make it than the Cards do.
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Sep 25, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I just saw Lee, Oswalt(vs. Lowe), and Hamels are pitching, I changed my mind quickly, still have faith though
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We will be blessed if we win 1
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Sep 25, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yogi Berra said it best
“It’s never over until it’s over.”
Jordan Schafer
Can someone buzz Jordan Schafer and remind him that if the Braves win the World Series, he gets a ring? And the Astros beating the Cardinals would assist in that goal?
Gotta tip your cap
I mean, we’re still in the drivers seat…….[sigh]
by Undocorkscrew on Sep 25, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
"Can't expect to win tomorrow"?
Yeah, me neither.
What was with Chipper?
Bases juiced in the 3rd and he swings at the first pitch- a pull swing on an away pitch, of all things- like he’s doing a Frenchy ala 2008 impression. He looked awful today overall.
I just looked and it's been changed
Monday – Lee vs. Delgado
Tuesday – Oswalt vs. Lowe
Wednesday – Hamels vs. Hudson
As of 2 hours ago they are planning on a "bullpen game"
No announcement otherwise
What about the Astros and Cardinals?
I doubt the Astros even know…..
by Undocorkscrew on Sep 25, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Monday – Jaime Garcia vs. Wandy Rodriguez
Tuesday – Jake Westbrook vs. Henry Sosa
Wednesday – Chris Carpenter vs. Brett Myers
Myers has actually pitched well as of late too
1-0 with a 1+ ERA in his last 3 starts.
Wait, Matt Holliday is back?
Good f*cking grief….
by Undocorkscrew on Sep 25, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but he's definitely playing hurt.
But still producing. He had the 1-out single yesterday of Marmol that got his meltdown started.
Wonderful
Lowe gets to pitch in a high leverage game with everything on the line. Fanfuckingtastic.
by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 25, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
to be fair he's been brilliant in that role in his career.
his results have obviously diminished across the board this season, but he’s a big game pitcher, always has been.
Proud perpetrator of yelling "Money MIke" at Oracle Arena since Dunleavy's trade to the Pacers.
Starting by the Catcher position, who the hell said that McCann is the best catcher in the MLB? What the fuck!? No way, Avila, Napoli, Miguel Montero and even Yadier Molina are better than him, plus he can’t field. Chipper needs to retire, he can’t hit with RISP, he can’t field costing us games a lot. Prado is just a waste of space, can’t bat, can’t field, can’t run, what a waste. Bourn swing at 3-0 with the Bases Loaded, what a moron, Heyward is the biggest bust seen since Jamarcus Russell in the NFL and Adam Morrison in the MLB, wow, so much hype for nothing, give me Stanton any day. Lowe is hell of a pitcher, I want him for the playoffs, Jurrjens sucks ass, what a shitty pitcher, the same goes for Hanson. Ace? pfft no way. Bullpen sucks in the wrong time, why the hell, Kimbrel is the king of blown saves, ROY, I don’t think so. Venters just sucks. Fredi Gonzalez and Larry Parrish should fucking be watching games not coaching them, fucking idiots.
/End Rant, wow I feel just a tad better.
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Sep 25, 2011 5:30 PM EDT reply actions
Bourn swung at 3-1, not 3-0. And the pitch was a strike.
But the fact remains he still should have waited to see if Detwiler could throw two strikes after throwing 8 straight out of the zone. Swinging 3-1 was just as braindead, but that’s the Larry Parrish way.
wow, i dont know what here is serious and what isnt
so i dont know if i should tell you to gtfo or try to discuss your points.
Just a bunch of bla bla bla
Ranting of random things.
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Sep 25, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i hear you, it's tough to be a fan right now
you mix in things like kimbrel and venters suck with fredi and LP sucking, so i wasnt sure what to think. guess we gotta pray for a miracle
well the Fredi and LP thing are true lol.
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Sep 25, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
You are a moron that can't detect sarcasm.
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Sep 25, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the way people have been talking here…how the hell am I supposed to think that is sarcasm? Have you read any of these comments?
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Yes, but come on, but the thing I wrote was just going to the extreme
Saying things like Lowe is a great pitcher and that Venters and Kimbrel sucks, nahh
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Sep 25, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Stopped reading after the McCann line. I laughed at the Heyward and Jamarcus Russell/Adam Morrison line. Although no one did really think Morrison would be good, did they?
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lol I don't know, all I know is that he is one of the biggest busts lol
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Sep 25, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Busts are so frequent in NBA though.
The line about Parrish and Gonzalez, was that sarcasm too? Cause I hate them both
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No, that wasn't sarcasm
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Sep 25, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Shake My Head
I just can’t get how anyone could approve of Freddi
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I don't approve of Fredi
I said in the rant above that both Parrish and Fredi shouldn’t be coaching and that part was not sarcasm.
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Sep 25, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Fredi doesn't even realize they're only one game back now
We’ve got three games left and you’re leading in the wild card by two games.
Not sure how I feel about Minor's quote
“I mean, they’re could be a little bit of pressure. But all the pressure’s on St. Louis, because if they don’t win, they can’t get in. Even if we do lose, they have to win. So that’s how I look at it, and I think that’s how everybody else looks at it, too."
this quote makes me wonder what exactly their mindset is right now
seems like they fully expect that they can just back their way in, instead of going out there and actually winning the wild card.
Braves face the best team in baseball
Cardinals face the worst team in baseball
I know we all knew that, but that kind of just hit me. Astonishing….
Braves did this to themselves. You can’t lose 2 out of 3 to the Mets, Marlins AND Nationals during the final 2 weeks and expect to get in. Braves did it to themselves, and they don’t even deserve to make the playoffs. Game 1 will be Lee against us. Fredi really needs to be smart how he pitches the first 2 games. I think you really have to pitch Lowe against Lee. I don’t have any confidence in Lowe, and Lee is almost automatic, especially against us. Delgado has pitched very nicely, I trust him a lot more, I would love to see him face Oswalt in the 2nd game. I know you never want to give up a game, but we have a legit chance the last two games over the first game. Fredi really needs to be wise about this…
braves#1
Automatic?
The Phillies are 1-3 this season against the Braves in games started by Lee.
this braves team is immensely different than the team that took the field from May-August
not a single player on this team is anywhere near locked in right now. agon being out has been a lot bigger than anyone could have ever imagined
last 10 games(even 1 game against braves) Lee is 7-1 and has allowed 2 ER or fewer in 9 of the 10 games. Only 1 game he allowed more than 2 ER, along with going 9 innings and allowing just 5 hits and no runs against us on september 5th. Fredi really needs to pitch Lowe in this game I think. We need every opportunity possible.
braves#1
Lee probably isn't going to go longer than 5 innings
This is just a playoff tune-up since he will start Game 2 on Saturday
I really don’t think the Phillies want to face the Cardinals in the first round. The Cards are hot and they tore them up last weekend. The Phillies may not outright throw the games, but they definitely aren’t going to go as all-out as they did against the Cardinals last week. Especially considering what was said earlier about Wednesday’s game being a bullpen game.
Well, I did say this yesterday that if the Phillies are smart, they WON’T want to face the Cardinals and will do all they can to not face Cards first round. But, who knows with their manager, he may try to out think himself and be like “screw it, lets just win baby”, or something to that degree. Phillies would be wise to want Braves in playoffs, over Cards.
braves#1
I think had the Phillies lost again today, they’d be desperate for just one win. But they creamed the Mets today. I think they’re satisfied.
Cardinals face Brett Myers on Wednesday
Ever since a start in Colorado on August 22 when he gave up 7 runs in 5 innings, Myers has gone 4-0 with a 1.41 ERA in the 6 starts that followed. Opponents are only hitting .180 off him in that stretch and he has struck out 31 compared to only 6 walks.
The Astros are 5-1 in Myers’ last 6 starts.
Regroup. New day, new series, new chance.
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All the complaining is out of my system, whatever happens, happens. Just win a couple of games, it’s not impossible…..
by Undocorkscrew on Sep 25, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy hell
Has anybody seen von Trier’s ‘Melancholia’ yet?
Let's sweep the Phillies, get some momentum and go to the playoffs with some confidence
I still think we’ll make it, despite how badly we’ve been playing lately. There are guys on this team who aren’t going to let this collapse happen, and I’m sure Chipper is one of them.
Let’s win tomorrow and let the Astros try to help us. It’s not like the Cardinals looked that good against the Cubs. Needed a Marmol meltdown to avoid losing the series.
Jason Heyward homeruns make babies stop crying.. Jason Heyward homeruns also make babies, period.
by TheMelkHasSpoiled on Sep 25, 2011 6:20 PM EDT reply actions
LET'S GO BRAVES!
Jason Heyward homeruns make babies stop crying.. Jason Heyward homeruns also make babies, period.
by TheMelkHasSpoiled on Sep 25, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter if they didn't look good. They won. That's all that matters
Something we are having an awfully hard time doing when it counts the most
I agree that we do have hope, but what do you mean “aren’t going to let this collapse happen.” In large part it’s already happened. We went from a 8.5 game lead to a 1 game lead. It’s an almost historic collapse, and even if we do make the play-offs its pretty clear we folded in the last few weeks of the season.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
And btw, I guess I have to watch The Tree of Life yet again
Watched it 3 times already, Braves won on all 3 days. It’s 3 hours long, but I’ll brave the storm again……
Movie made no sense. I guess I don’t “appreciate” it, but it was absolutly the dumbest thing ever
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I loved it
First 30 minutes was a bit irritating, got much more conventional afterwards. I’m just a huge Terrence Malick fan and that creation sequence was beyond brilliant.
by Undocorkscrew on Sep 25, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Chipper needs to guarantee another win
And if it doesn’t happen, at least we’ll have him to blame. Win/win
by Undocorkscrew on Sep 25, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm leaving....
But I just want to say that we’ve all watched this team all fucking year, there’s no sense in giving up at the end. Staying positive won’t have any influence on the teams performance, but nobody needs to drive their selves crazy over this. Unless you’re losing a fortune on a bet, stay calm. It’s baseball……
They’ll take care of this shit.
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Should be renamed the thunderdome because its so negative.
by drumzalicious on Sep 25, 2011 6:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Let’s hope the fans show up in full force for the remaining three games – we need Turner Field to be rockin’ the house the next three days !!
by bravesfaninchitown on Sep 25, 2011 6:31 PM EDT reply actions
I just want to add that the Nationals are a terrible team with the motivation of a .500 season. While we did drop 2 out of 3, they would not have performed this way with something on the line.
You are correct to assess that we do not have the statistics, and you are right. The Nats have not finished above .500 since their re-inception. :)
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Win or lose... Still love the Braves!
Would be lying if I said this didn’t hurt like hell but you know what… The future still looks bright and this is still our team…
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Should be renamed the thunderdome because its so negative.
by drumzalicious on Sep 25, 2011 6:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
if we lose the wild card, i will spend the rest of the offseason convincing myself i will not watch the braves next year.
of course, i will watch next year, but damned if i’m not going to curse them for 6 months.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
What irritates me....
Is no one will even admit a) there is a problem and b) something must be done to fix it… fast.
People keep talking about Hanson and JJ, but the pitching is still good enough to win, especially against the <.500 teams. What is unacceptable is this offense. their approach and lack of ability to adjust is amazing.
This team is way down from last year in walks, runs, On base percentage, etc. It is obvious that the Braves need to change hitting coaches before next year.
ya, whether we make playoffs or not, Parrish best be gone. Thing is, you can argue this is a better offensive talent team than last year. Finally have a leadoff hitter, and Uggla second half has looked good. I would be ok with giving Fredi ONE more year to see what he can do, but if things don’t change, then he should be on the cutting board…
braves#1
Also a sports psy may help
It seems they are expecting to fail. Didn’t Smoltz see one back in 1991 to get him turned around?
so sad.. i am....
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by Ivan the Great on May 20, 2011 12:31 PM VET
I found some positives in tonights loss
1. Medlen pitched a perfect inning with a K on 7 pitches.
2. O’Ventbrel is fully rested for this series in Philly
by drumzalicious on Sep 25, 2011 8:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
is Georgie hurt?
Why isn’t Constanza playing ahead of Diaz or Prado? He has been killing lefties since he came up, and the team played inspired baseball when he was in the regular line-up.
The team appears demoralized. Doesn’t Fredi Gonzalez have it in him to motivate players in a pennant race? Great coaches and managers have this ability. He sits there in the dugout stonefaced, we never even hear some much as an “attaboy, Chipper”, and in the post-game press interviews he spouts cliches and states the obvious.
I’m not expecting Vince Lombardi or John Wooden, but given the way things are going maybe he needs to get some of these guys ears burning. Guys with names like Lowe, Diaz, and Prado, for example, who have performed poorly as we’ve lost three straight series to mediocre teams down the stretch.
Yeah I don't understand that at all.
Does he have it out for Heyward? He didn’t hesitate to put Georgie in there for him. But now? when Prado has clearly been an albatross in the 2 hole. I dont understand it
Oh well.
Missed the game and from reading the recap…sounds like a lot of stress I’m glad I missed.
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I really hate I missed the return of Meds though :-(
So glad to have him back on the mound.
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
I’m just at the point of whatever happens, happens. If the Bravos don’t make the cut, I’ll still be a fan & thankful to them for another great season of Braves baseball. No matter what happens it’s been a successful season. We’ve seen some great performances from O’Ventbril & the core of our future starting pitching. We’ve got 2 contenders for the ROY in Freeman & Kimbrel.
Uggla emerging from his slump w/a vengence. Chipper fighting back from his knee surgery and contributing as he has. Both very inspirational. Never say die. The team is struggling now but looking back on the season they’ve given me my money’s worth. Do I want more? Sure. Who doesn’t want the season to continue as long as possible. What’s left? Winter? Gawd!!
I just can’t bring myself to start throwing players & coaches under the bus. Who am I? I don’t know these guys on a personal level. I don’t know their heart. I understand venting. I understand some of the back & forth is warranted & light-hearted banter & that’s o.k.. That’s what this site is for. Baseball discussion. But some of this stuff is over the top & just plain mean-spirited.
Please know I’m not trying to be judgmental here & apologize ahead of time if I come across that way. Just getting a little melancholy as the season winds down. This old boy is getting a little long in the tooth. Don’t know how many season’s the Lord has left for me. How ever many I have left, I know they will be spent as a Brave’s fan, no matter what happens this year. Go Braves. (p.s. this site is by far the best on SBN. A cut above the rest.)
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
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