Braves Go Down 4-0 in Final Sun Life Game to Vazquez and the Fish
by moorebraves on Sep 21, 2011 10:15 PM EDT
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PrintThe Braves couldn't figure out their old teammate as the Marlins flipped the script on the Braves tonight. After a big 4-0 win last night, the Braves lost by the same score tonight. Javy Vazquez was terrific for the Fish, and despite an above average start by D-Lowe, there was really no contest at Sun Life Stadium tonight.
Vazquez retired the first ten batters that he faced on the night before Prado was able to line a good pitch off of the plate into right field in the fourth. Atlanta mustered up a threat in the seventh behind a big Jason Heyward double off of the top of the left center field wall with McCann aboard, and again in the ninth behind two Leo Nunez walks, but never managed to send any runners across the plate.
Derek Lowe pitched just fine, but it wasn't going to cut it against tonight's opponent. A big double by Mike Stanton in the second inning drove in the Marlins first run. A Brett Hayes homer in the fifth, a sac fly in the sixth, and a LoMo homer in the eighth accounted for the Marlins' final three runs. None of which mattered.
The Braves will now have to do their best against the pesky Nationals beginning Friday, sending Huddy to the mound against Stephen Strasburg. The Mets still lead the Cardinals 4-3 as of right....NOW.
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Never put pretend faith in the Mets or Phils to do us any favors...
In the back of their minds, one has post in a lock, and the other does not, but both do not want us to advance.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
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Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 22, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Braves shouldn't have to depend on other teams to help them.
They need to take care of there own buisness.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
Oh Lord...
We’re turning into one of THOSE teams!
I would really rather they'd just fallen out of it in August
This is painful to experience, and is making me absolutely loathe the Braves.
What's the point of even bringing up Lowe?
If he’d pitched 9 innings of shutout ball, we’d just be going to the 11th.
How I wish Braves have one like Kershaw!
by Braves.14 on Sep 21, 2011 10:37 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
STL with the lead now in the 8th…
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
It’s gonna be okay. It’s all going to be ok.
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Hoping the team will find a way these next 6 games.
Tough competition upcoming – they can do it – if they only will.
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
I have 0 doubt they're trying...
Just a crappy crappy time out there. I think the day off will help, everybody needs to collect their minds a bit.
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Strasburg, Wang, Detwiler in Washington
Lee, Worley, and Oswalt at home against the Phillies
If we can somehow win Friday, a sweep of the Gnats is a legit possibility. Tough final series though, as far as pitching matchups go… and Derek Lowe has to start again… I’d almost throw Hudson on short rest against Worley and bring back Hanson to start the final game
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
DLowe was good enough tonight to get a W
We’ve beaten Strasburg NOT on a pitch count before, so we can beat him again…
Nothing left to do but wait and see, which is why I don’t understand the end-of-the-world types.
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I want this to be over with.
Just one more week, though, and it will all be over except for they crying.
If you've given up go cry now
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It seems that our EPIC collapse is almost complete. We’ve said all the different problems about the team. I have no more words to say. I’m exhausted.
If you don’t have any more words quit talking.
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Quit being a judgemental, self-righteous prick.
People are allowed to voice their opinion, positive or negative. If you want to be upbeat and cheerful, go right ahead. But stop trying to police anyone who feels differently.
by Aaron Meier on Sep 21, 2011 11:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Quit a rant directed towards someone just telling someone else to do what they said they would.
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I'm also referring to all of the other comments you've left here tonight.
by Aaron Meier on Sep 21, 2011 11:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wah wah
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Dude, go resume your post as hall monitor at whatever middle school it is you go to.
by Aaron Meier on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This sucks big time
They are playing like there is no tomorrow and we are playing like we want to go home
I'll admit it...
I don’t get it.
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Yeah he can question my fanhood if he wants. But we are seeing the Braves before our eyes. I’m good friends with a Mets fan and I always use their choke as trash talk. If we blw this one, and it would be a worse choke than the Mets, I will never hear the end of it
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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I didn't question your fanhood....
Especially since you’re using words like “IF” we choke it “WOULD” be worse… The annoying people are the ones acting like it’s already over. And even then it’s not about fanhood, it’s kind of about the type of person you are and the attitude you bring to life.
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When we had an 8.5 games lead I said the Braves weren’t a lock and I was cruxified abut my fanhood.
I honestly think it’s 50/50. We have the slight lead but we are frigid and the cards are on fire, plus the Cards play easy teams and we play the Philles, likely resting big 3. I really dn’t know who to give the edge to
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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schedule is in their favor for sure
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
Lee, Worley, Oswalt
I see one very tough win, I think Worley and Oswalt are beatable, BUT Lowe pitches one of them. I have to say I can see them sweeping us. I do think we can go into WSH against a Stras that will only go 5 IP and then Detweiler and Wang and should at least take 2/3. If we go 3/3 to finish the way(Possible). Cards have to go 5-2 for a playoff. Things are not looking good IMO
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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gotta hope the Cubs stick it to the Cards this weekend
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
we have to HOPE that happens
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
I believe Hudson, Beachy and Hanson will start against Phillies.
by Braves.14 on Sep 21, 2011 10:59 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Worley is being moved to the bull pen and likely replaced in the rotation by Kendrick for his last start
counting...they obviously don't care, why should I?
by DirtyWaters on Sep 21, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say this is good news
but we never hit Kendrick either, so………….
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
lol
they could call up a AAA scrub with a 9 ERA and he could probably shut down the Braves the way they are playing
guaranteed if it's a lefty to get called up
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
When we had an 8.5 games lead I said the Braves weren’t a lock and I was cruxified abut my fanhood.
Well it wasn’t me crucifying you…
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I'm with you on that...
It’s not looking good at all for us right now, even with the 1.5 game lead. With the way we have been playing, these last 6 games will easily be the hardest of the season.
This is so depressing…I don’t even have the words to describe it.
by WeStillHaveBobby on Sep 22, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
A lot can happen in a day...
Let’s see how we come out of this day off. Braves are 3-3 at Nats Park this year… Let’s make it 6-3 and see if some smiles come back.
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Yeah, even if you discount momentum
Which at this point I can’t, given that St. Louis seems to have literally forgotten how to lose…there’s still the schedule. They close out the season against the Astros, we close out against the Phillies.
Could the Braves still make the playoffs? Sure, it’s a mathematical possibility.
Philly has clinched home field. In the last series they are going to be setting up the rotation and resting the back end of the bullpen. They aren’t going to throw the games, but Lee isn’t going to be pitching 9 innings.
He's gonna go at least 5-6
then they’re gonna put Worley and Oswalt on trial the last 2 games to decide who should be their #4 starter. I’ll bet Ryan Howard plays too.
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
There will be no 4th starter in Phillies rotation on the postseason. Charlie Manuel moved Worley to the bullpen as reliever. (according to bleacherreport it was controversial move)
by Braves.14 on Sep 21, 2011 11:23 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
They are going to play their best
to knock us out of the race. Maybe their starters will get some rest, but as for their regular lineup expect to see everyone in there.
by WeStillHaveBobby on Sep 22, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
A sweep? When was the last time the Braves strung three wins in a row at all? I’ll help you out: it was exactly one month ago when the Braves swept the D-Backs. And the Braves have historically struggled against the Nats. I’ll be surprised if they take two of three at the rate they have been playing this month.
Why must you bring down every sign of positive energy?
If you want to be depressed you can do it on your own.
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Fan sites are just as much about shared misery as shared joy.
So take your mindless optimism and shove it. If you don’t like reading this stuff, no one is making you stick around.
I'm not sure how you decided my optimism was mindless...
Or even that I was optimistic… just trying to admit that this isn’t over yet, that’s all.
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I never said it was over.
I do believe it is unlikely that the Braves will recover from this funk quickly enough. I’ve been a fan of this team for over three decades and have never given up on them until they are eliminated. That said, however, I think I can spot the current hot hand in the race, and it’s not the Braves.
I think I can spot the current hot hand in the race, and it’s not the Braves.
That can change in one day, or even one inning.
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true
a braves win tomorrow with a cards loss will make things seem a whole lot better
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Braves aren't playing tomorrow.
Best we can hope for is a clutch Mets performance.
And a unicorn, while I’m dreaming.
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 21, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah realized that after i typed it but no edit button
Braves win Friday
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Wasn't trying to be an ass
Just didn’t want you psyching yourself up all day only to be disappointed.
I’m looking at three days of Carpenter and Santangelo while the Braves are in mid-crisis. I may go through a case of J&B.
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 21, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
me neither
sometimes things just come across wrong on the internet, but thanks for the headsup
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Hot hand is a myth.
Ooh, finally got to use that one!!
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Sep 22, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
But you still told him to go do it on his own
which is where the comment of shared misery comes in
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
down to 1.5
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
Willie Harris in the 9th inning: 1 Braves: 0
Jason Heyward homeruns make babies stop crying.. Jason Heyward homeruns also make babies, period.
by TheMelkHasSpoiled on Sep 21, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
We traded for the wrong leadoff man!
Darn
Jason Heyward homeruns make babies stop crying.. Jason Heyward homeruns also make babies, period.
by TheMelkHasSpoiled on Sep 21, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I seriously can't do this anymore.
I’m sorry but it’s not fun to be a fan right now. It’s just not. It’s one thing to go on a losing streak. Those happen. It’s another thing to do it at the exact time you aren’t supposed to. To be playing such lifeless, incompetent baseball is inexcusable for a team this talented.
I wish there was someone to blame. I don’t know who, frankly I actually don’t care. But if they lose Friday and the Cards tie with us I think I’m done watching for the season. They don’t deserve my viewership if they are incapable of putting a decent (not even good, DECENT) product on the field. They have for 90% of the year but none of that matters if they blow it now.
I'm getting to that point.
I’m probably going to keep watching at least some until they’re officially eliminated, but Christ, this feels like a new punch in the gut each night. As you say: it’s not fun. It’s just lowering the quality of my life.
Right
In the end all I want is my fan experience to be fun, that doesn’t necessarily require winning. It certainly doesn’t require winning a championship every year. I’m no fair weather fan. It’s just that this is so awful. It’s not fun. It just isn’t.
by foxrobe on Sep 21, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait so.... you're leaving then, right?
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YES! HERE'S A TRUE FAN!
Dont know about the rest of you but I have been sitting around waiting for the Scott Coleman “I Just Cant Do This” Memorial Quitter Post of The Year. It rocketed us into the playoffs last year and it will again. See you as a moderator after we clinch buddy. Go Braves.
Proud perpetrator of yelling "Money MIke" at Oracle Arena since Dunleavy's trade to the Pacers.
Bye.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Expect some enthusiastic on-board heckling should the Braves prevail.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Sep 22, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
This goes for all above that share the sentiment, as well.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Sep 22, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
We're gonna remember this and laugh
after we win game one in Milwaukee.
/optimist
by a hooter's baby on Sep 21, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
And... we got our "tip your cap" comment by Fredi post game interview tonight.
In case anyone is keeping score ;-)
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
Yep he did, just watched it again to be sure.
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HERE IT IS
Vazquez was great today. He had command of his fastball everywhere and breaking pitch, you’ve got to tip your hat to him. What’d we have, two hits? It’s tough to score runs with two hits.
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
He needs to be forcibly removed.
From the plane, the team’s hotel, wherever he is, and never, ever allowed to darken our doors again. This isn’t all his fault but a large share of it is. As someone wrote yesterday in the Thunderdome thread, the culture of this team needs to change.
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 21, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
And just what the hell does that have to do with anything?
I don’t think anyone here disagrees that Javy was brilliant tonight (although if we were playing in a baseball park and not a shitheap, Heyward’s shot would’ve changed the complexion of this game rather quickly.)
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 21, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I just think the prevailing attitude, albeit unfair, is that if we had better management that Javy might somehow have been less brilliant.
Which I find kind of strange.
If we had better general management
He’d have been brilliant for us.
Fredi and Co.’s failing are long term, not just isolated to tonight.
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 21, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't go that far
we didn’t really need SP this year in the FA market.
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
I’m just making the point that I have no gripes with Javier Vasquez. I’ve always admired and liked him, always felt he was underrated, loved having him around in ‘09 and really regretted that we couldn’t hold on to him and were stuck with Lowe instead. In the long run, I’m confident that AV will make that deal well worth making but it still frustrates me a bit.
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 21, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What exactly was so frustrating about Vazquez’s 2010?? He was a free agent after that season, so he wouldn’t have been here anyway.
Logic, folks. It’s helpful.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
No time for logic when the sky is falling!!!!
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
And you're absolutely confident
That he wouldn’t have resigned here? Something he expressed an interest in doing?
I'm absolutely confident...
That the Braves had about 8 starters on the team as-is last offseason. The chances that Atlanta even considered Vazquez would have been slim and slimmer.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I beg to differ, but not belligerently.
I’d like to see anyone manage a team through the sheer number of injuries and slumps that this team has had to endure and do it silently, professionally, and in a manner that is always looking forward to tomorrow.
The guy isn’t an intellectual, he’s not going to pinpoint for you what his team’s failings are and use pressers to motivate guys. He’s not Ozzie Guillen, and he’s not shamelessly and ineffectively looking to get himself thrown out to show he stands up for his guys like Bobby Cox.
He's in over his head.
Just like Jerry Manuel, a guy he reminds me of, very much.
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 22, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
It's part of a pattern.
It’s the same stale, cliched verbiage he spits out every damned day. It’s indicative of him having no idea what kind of situation he’s in.
Stop being so pedantic.
by Sam Jethroe on Sep 21, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
See, if I actually believed that was a possibility...
I wouldn’t be quite so despairing right now. But Frank Wren won’t do it. First of all, it’s not how the Braves do business. Second of all, Frediot is his man. He’d be acknowledging his own failure.
Him and Parrish getting fired may be be key to the next 4-5 seasons
by SuperHeyward on Sep 21, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
FIRE TP! FIRE TP!
Oh…. wait…. wrong year!
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by SuperNewb on Sep 21, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure this is all Fredi's fault.
Fredi didn’t blow those late game leads on Sunday and Monday. Take away those meltdowns and we’re not even moping right now. We’re all laughing about how close it looked last week. Hell, take away Chipper losing that grounder in the lights and we’re probably not moping. I mean, I don’t know if he is the best man for the job, but this goes beyond just pointing at the manager.
As a Caps fan who has dealt with similar things the last four years...
I completely agree, definitely beyond just pointing at the manager.
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Mets game he IBB’ to load the bases, and the runs scored that inning were the difference in the game.
Monday they ‘unintentionally’ walked Stanton with no one one and Morrison homered – again the difference in the game. I don’t know if the 2nd one was his call, but the first one definitely was.
How many managers are we going to find that don’t issues that IBB though?
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Always easier to point the finger at the Manager when guys don’t execute…funny how no move he made that led to success is ever counted because you don’t know what the negative outcome would have been…
I routinely comment when he makes a good move. Although ‘routinely’ probably isn’t the right word.
We can’t know what the counter-factual will be – that is true of every decision and non-decision. But we have a good idea of when a decision is obviously improving the chance of winning ex-ante, or vice versa.
That’s crap. People still bitched at him for that CarGo walkoff game in Coors when he made the right play by walking Ty Willingham and letting EOF pitch to CarGo. That will be my favorite example of how senselessly people have it in for Fredi…
Five words or less...
Why should we fire Fredi…
In haiku form
Fredi should be gone
Because he’s an idiot
Blew the Wild Card lead
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
And as a result is constantly setting them up for failure.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
I bitched at that...
Because CarGo is much better than Willingham. Much, much, much better.
An IBB to get to a potential Hall of Famer (still a ways off, but he’s got the pedigree, clearly) is stupid, especially if the batter is better than average at hitting lefties and is playing in Coors to boot.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Well, that game was on Beachy against the Mets that Sunday. No reason whatsoever, for Beachy to walk the stupid pitcher. I don’t care if you have to throw pitches right down the middle at 60 mph, I don’t care, but you don’t walk the pitcher to bring in a run. That was on Beachy, no way to blame the manager there, he did what I thought was good managing. Beachy needed to execute, and he didn’t, and it cost us.
braves#1
Don't count on it
This is a friendship organization. Most likely he’ll get a 10/yr extension for getting along great with the players.
You know what really sucks...
Alex Gonzalez was the only one I had any confidence in for this entire month and he’s injured… now if that’s not fucked up I don’t know what is
I'm sick
Is this how it is gonna end, really? oh my god i am in disbelief. we had this wildcard locked up, it wasn’t even a question. unbelievable
GO PATS!!!!!!
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!
GO BLACKHAWKS!!!!!!!
GO BULLS!!!!!!!
BravesFan22
WHY CAN'T THE CARDS AND GIANTS BE IN THE SAME DIVISION?!?!?!
QUICK, REALIGN THAT SHIT!
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"Enjoy tomorrow [off day], then try to regroup," Lowe said. "We made it definitely kind of tough on ourselves. But … we still control what’s going to happen. We’re still going to [have a wild-card] lead Friday."
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/braves-and-lowe-lose-1186221.html
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No shit Larry
I want to see some brutality out on the field.
I WANT YOU TO ACT LIKE GODDAMN BRAVES.
Head scalping, immune to bullets, fire breathing politically incorrect monsters.
St. Louis wants it more. If that doesn’t change, Turner Field will have three more games in 2011.
by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 21, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
God no
I love how self-righteous we get as fans. Some people seem to think THEY want to win more than the players do. I think the guys in the clubhouse would give ANYTHING to be winning right now. I doubt anybody wants it more than them.
You think Kimbrel gave up the HR because he didn’t care?
You think the offense just didn’t give a shit tonight?
You really think that?
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Hardly, hass
Of course they want to win. It’s not that the Braves are not wanting to win, it’s that St. Louis is riding the wave and smells the blood and that’s worth so much in a pressure situation.
Perhaps I worded myself too strongly as I don’t mean to imply that the Braves are phoning it in. But I am saying that there is a correlation between desire, confidence, and the results, and the Braves look worn-down by all the bad breaks and the losing. They need a re-charge of some kind.
by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 21, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Look up “Straw Man Argument”, please.
by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 21, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
When people bring up "Straw Man"
it generally means they were soundly defeated by logic when they decided to stand by something illogical that they said…
It certainly has seen an outburst of usage on internet forums...
Don’t think anybody knew what it was five months ago.
Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Skins, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
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That, or some jackass fails to recognize someone admitting to coming off wrong at first but continues to act like said person is standing by a black and white viewpoint.
Because I totally think Kimbrel blew that first save because Pujols wants it more.
Watch tomorrows Cardinals game and tell me you honestly think that team isn’t holding their heads higher and playing with more poise. The Braves can still win this thing but they have to find something that really “brings back the mojo”, for lack of a better term, and I’m very worried that the Cards have all the mojo right now.
by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 21, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The real test would be to take a non-baseball fan, show them video of the Braves and Cards taking the field with no prior information, and ask the viewer to guess which team won or lost the previous game.
eh
Non-baseball fans wouldn’t know what to look for. Use a baseball fan from a totally uninvolved fanbase….a Mariner’s fan would be good.
by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 21, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
.
We can steal their mojo…. really…
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
I apologize for the sarcasm.
Good teams have winning streaks are long runs of great baseball, likewise as well as losing streaks and runs of bad baseball. I don’t think the effort changes…I just think at the end of the day hitting a baseball is still only a 1/4 probability no matter how good you’re seeing the baseball or making contact.
If we can outlast this and hold on there’s no chance we can’t turn it on and go far in the playoffs…
there is no way to say when momentum changes...
so untill this thing is done I wait for the one game, one inning, one pitch that WILL change this. this is my team. our team. and I won’t give up…best part no matter how angry we get from here out win or lose, you bet your ass I’m there ready opening day next year…
by ottie on Sep 21, 2011 11:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and hopefully the playoffs this year
by ottie on Sep 21, 2011 11:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I've got tickets to all three Phillies games
I don’t intend to see us go down without a fight.
In an odd way I’m more afraid of the Nationals than the Phillies.
by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 21, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Off day, here we go!
Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Skins, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
BU Hockey: National Champions 1971, 1972, 1978, 1995, 2009
the good thing
Is that O’ventbrel will have had 3 days off come Friday. Bad news is we will probably see them every game and not in Philly
by drumzalicious on Sep 21, 2011 10:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Worse news is they all pitch better on 0 days rest
Than 1, 2, or 3 :D
Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Skins, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
BU Hockey: National Champions 1971, 1972, 1978, 1995, 2009
Why doesn't BR give ERA for splits?
JV: 0 days .153/.280/.189/.469, 1 day: .173/.264/.198/.461
Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Skins, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
BU Hockey: National Champions 1971, 1972, 1978, 1995, 2009
THERE we go
Never mind, I stand corrected.
Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Skins, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
BU Hockey: National Champions 1971, 1972, 1978, 1995, 2009
i said it last night
we need daily thunderdomes.
by Erihury on Sep 21, 2011 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2011/09/21/braves-quotes-after-wednesday-loss-to-marlins-2/
Titles don’t like links …
Try this: http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2011/09/21/braves-quotes-after-wednesday-loss-to-marlins-2/
~ "Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West ~
We need
A hat tip jpeg/gif. Could you get on that NC?
"You owe it to yourself to be successful. After that you'll owe it to the IRS."
Here ya go...
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by NCChopper on Sep 22, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really really awesome. I tip my hat to such an effort.
A player posting those kind of stats when the team needs them deserve to be in the World Series, again. Hard to say which team I’ll start rooting for during post-season
He whose words outnumber his deeds, know that his death is better than his life.
It’s really nice to see some optimism on this board, because someone has got to have some. The Braves look like they have lost all confidence at this point. That’s not to say that they can’t regain it, but it doesn’t look good. This team hasn’t played to their potential in a very long time.
Our starting pitchers are unable to go 7 innings, and our bats are silent. This needs to change immediately if we are to have any chance of going to the playoffs. Sorry for stating the obvious.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
I hope the cubs and astros...
Play with the same hate we’ve been getting from our divisional brethren. Two hits ):
That’s been a big hope…the Cubs and Astros have dick to play for and a team with nothing to lose can be dangerous. See: Marlins.
by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 21, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh.
(after just walking in right now)
Need I elaborate?
you're not defending him are you?
are you his mom?
by toppleprone on Jun 7, 2011 9:43 PM EDT
Desperate Times call for Desperate Measures
Admissions of Guilt and the Thunderdome threads didn’t work… but there is 1 thing left that just might work
Remove the ban on ChopMaster
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
When all else fails – beat yourself.
by NCChopper on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 PM EDT
by leedawg on Sep 21, 2011 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I think that is a perfect measure. Even if he doesn’t work he can regale us with tales of a grill helper which will cheer us up.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Do it.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
I'm getting desperate
make him a mod.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
I'm surprised
this doesn’t have more REC
by WeStillHaveBobby on Sep 22, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Capuano will have his best game of the year tomorrow.
It would have to be a really, really, really, really good game to surpass his previous best.
Here is to hoping that the mets can pull out a win a 2 game lead going into the weekend would be huge….we always seem to have off days as soon as we get going so hopefully the reverse happens….I still have faith and next Friday ill be at home watching the first game of the nlds…..with the Braves winning that game huddy will pitch lights out and beachy too outer starting pitching will return Friday and the rest will be history…..GO BRAVES!!!!!!
by CaptainLou02 on Sep 21, 2011 11:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Revelation!
Braves will lose the lead in the WC race, then sweep the Phillies and win it outright! LOL!
"First!"...Who gives a damn if you are first
If it does then it would be against one of the hottest teams in baseball.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Well, if they can’t go 4-2 in the next 6 games and end up not in postseason, then they don’t deserve to make it. No reason to have lost 2 out of 3 to the Mets and Marlins in back to back series. I know we have injuries and worn out pen, but bottom line is Braves have been in position to win some of these games, they just have to execute or else they will be watching playoffs at home…
braves#1
Just once...
I’d like to see the Braves play with energy.
The always look so damn serious. Lighten up and maybe enjoy the game…
Ugh.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
I’ve got an idea: muscle relaxant!
Someone needs to slip some of this into the Cards’ Gatorade.
Twitter: @TAlmeyda
sorry fellas. there won't be a need for a 1 game playoff
He whose words outnumber his deeds, know that his death is better than his life.
Wish I could fall asleep for the next week and wake up to see who won the Wild Card at the end of it.
Braves: awesome. Cards: Damn. It would suck, but this roller coaster of emotion is getting old.
Oh well. Guess that comes with the territory of being a fan.
Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.
This is the curse of Jack Wilson!!
- We have had a losing record since he joined the club.
- He has never played on a winning team.
- A few lines from Mark Bowman’s article the day we got Wilson “Playing for the Pirates and Mariners, Wilson hasn’t had much of a chance to be part of a winning club in September. The Braves are likely bound for the postseason as they carried an 8 1/2-game lead over the Cardinals in the Wild Card race heading into Thursday night.”
- Braves are 8-13 in Sept.; Cards are 14-5 trimming 7 games off the lead
nice find.
but, getting wilson likely lit a fire under gonzo’s ass and he’s been going nuts this month. i shudder to think where we’d be without gonzo in september.
After 156 games last year, we were .5 back of the Pads
The Pads hosted the Cubs and lost 2 of 3.
We swept the fish.
Here’s to more of the same this year.
Mazzone on the Regular Guys show right now
Claiming the pine tar thing yesterday was a joke.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 22, 2011 8:37 AM EDT reply actions
what happened to Moylan? i havent seen him pitch for a while
If Halladay, Lee, and Hamels all break their arms while playing tag in the clubhouse, We'll be set
by suicide bunting is a sin on Sep 22, 2011 8:43 AM EDT reply actions
Oh the irony that "Shea" keeps Chipper away AND
the Mets tease beating the Cards.
Hoping the Mutts Capuano squeaks out a win today. The way the Cards are playing tho…. No easy task. They’re winning. We’re not. Trying to find a bright side, but there really isn’t one, anymore. Too little, too late.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 22, 2011 9:03 AM EDT reply actions
Good riddance SunLife Stadium
or whatever your name is. May your crappy lights never blind a 3rd baseman again.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
Lowe - more harmful healthy than hurt
If only we were so lucky that Lowe were hurt like the others. Seriously. If Lowe were hurt, we’d have one of our young guns going out there and giving us a chance. Instead, we have a big contract guy who we HAVE to start and he’s killing us. At some point, you have to stop looking at the back of the baseball card and start looking at reality.
You're an idiot.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 22, 2011 10:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Another example
of the quality people who are on this board.
If you hate it so much then leave
No ones asking you to be here.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 22, 2011 6:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not talking about last night night's mediocre start
I’m talking about the past few months. But, hey, if you’re saying you think Lowe is helping the team, then you’re welcome to prove your point.
(and easy on the tude fuckwad)
Despite his overall suckage
he at least eats 5 innings every 5th start. I wouldn’t say he’s “more harmful healthy than hurt.”
I mean, who would pitch in his stead? Medlen? NA. Hanson? NA. Jurrjens? NA.
Martinez? Ok, then who pitches 6 scoreless innings when (whomever) gets lit up in the 3rd?
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 22, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Teheran
he’d pitch. and the chances he’d perform better are extremely good
really hope
they just go with a 4 man rotation for the rest of the year. But i think Fredi will give Lowe another start, even if its a must win game.
He wouldn’t pitch, because he’s out of innings for the season. Next??
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
So you’re talking about one start, perhaps two in August?? Guess what…Lowe pitched excellent in those starts.
8/19: 5 IP, 4H, 2BB, 7K, 0 ER
8/24: 7 IP, 4H, 4BB, 6K, 2 ER
Also, bringing up Teheran at that time would have added service time for the entire month of September, for 8 IP in two appearances. But what’s 40 days of service time that could be worth $5-6MM in the future??
Next??
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Last night was Lowe’s best start in months. And I hate defending the guy.
We don’t score runs.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 22, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
We control our destiny
Thats all you can ask for right now. Yes this has absolutely sucked to watch, but i tell you what, I would much rather be up 1.5 games right now than down 1.5. Hopefully the Mets can help us out and we can have 2 game lead heading into the final 6. A sweep of Washington is a must. I still have a feeling the Cards will drop atleast 2 of their next 5.
Don’t put your faith in the Mets. Assume that the Cards win. If the Mets actually do win, consider it a bonus. But seriously, assume they lose. It hurts less.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 22, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone needs to tell Reyes he won't get Carl Crawford money
This usually gets him fired up. Maybe enough to push this game over into the Mets win column.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
They must have
St. Louis is a clean bottom of the 9th away from being Infante’d.
by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 22, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
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