Tomahawk Chops: Daily Atlanta Braves News Clippings For Friday, September 2nd
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Braves quotes after Thursday win over Nationals | Atlanta Braves
Chipper Jones, best you’ve felt in a while? "Yeah, I feel good. I feel better than a 1-for-4 indicates. Obviously it’s good I hit another homer, but I gave away three at-bats. That kind of gets the best of me whenever that happens. I had a guy that suited me real well and I got pitches to hit all night. And with the exception of the first at-bat, I just flat-out missed them."
Wilson excited for playoff chance | Atlanta Braves
Red-eyed but smiling, a travel-weary Jack Wilson arrived in the Braves clubhouse about 10 minutes before 6 p.m. Thursday night, excited to join a team in a playoff hunt for the first time in his 11-year career. "Oh yeah, first time I think I’ve even smelled it," said Wilson, who spent 8 ½ losing seasons with the Pirates and the past 2 ½ with Seattle. "It’s exciting just to be in a playoff run. Obviously the team here and the organization as a whole is pretty legendary, and some of the guys in this room. Playing against them for so many years in Pittsburgh, it’s nice to be on the other side."
Veteran Wilson gives Braves infield depth | braves.com: News
"Defensively, he's really, really good," Gonzalez said. "You can do some stuff with him offensively, bunt, hit and run. "He's just one of those baseball players. He just comes out and beats you. I'm looking forward to having him on the club for the rest of the way."
Jurrjens to visit knee specialist, miss start | braves.com: News
Jair Jurrjens will visit knee specialist Dr. Richard Steadman in Colorado this weekend, and he will miss Sunday's scheduled start. Jurrjens hopes he simply needs some extra rest to overcome the bothersome knee ailment that has influenced his dramatic second-half decline. After completing a bullpen session at Turner Field on Thursday afternoon, a frustrated Jurrjens said that he has not reached a point where he can confidently push off the rubber with his right leg and complete his delivery with necessary authority.
Braves' Nate McLouth ‘hablas espanol' to connect with teammates | ajc.com
Braves center fielder Nate McLouth is bilingual, and has found that knowing Spanish builds teamwork, even during a game.
Gwinnett Braves struggle to fill Coolray Field | ajc.com
On average, less than half of Coolray’s 10,427 seats are filled when the Gwinnett Braves play at home in Lawrenceville. It wasn’t supposed to be this way. A consultant’s study used by county officials to justify spending $64 million on the stadium said Gwinnett’s demographics and economy made it "one of the strongest markets in the country to support a minor league baseball team." Conventions, Sports & Leisure International estimated the team would average 6,000 to 6,500 fans a game after an initial "honeymoon" period in which attendance might be higher.
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You know… AS GG CF Wren “stole” for Pittsburgh for “peanuts”. The savior in CF
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Sep 2, 2011 9:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*from… Stupid phone
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Sep 2, 2011 9:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
See Morton, Charlie
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Sep 2, 2011 11:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have
not impressed. He was awful for the last few years. And while he’s finally turned it around, we weren’t waiting on this. He’d have been cut, or traded for scraps, or Rule V’d, during the last 2 years if we didn’t deal him for McLouth. So no, Morton hasn’t been awesome, and surely hasn’t been a bad loss. We’ve got a dozen that would be above him in a starting pitching pecking order, even now that he’s finally come around. Gorkys (who looks like a Gregor Blanco redux) and Jeff Locke have much more potential to be bad losses than Morton considering both are still relatively young. Morton from our sense and the time of the trade, would qualify as “peanuts”.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
I disagree… WAR since trade…
McLouth .9, -1.4, .7; 0.07 avg
Morton .7, -2.5, 2.1; 0.10 avg
Morton>McLouth
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Sep 2, 2011 12:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If only it were that simple
see the giant bump this year where before Morton was worse than McLouth, including when blondie was gadawful hitting below the Mendoza line last year? That kind of matters. See my above statement that if Morton wasn’t traded then, he’d have been dealt for someone else or just cut loose via waivers or Rule 5 draft somewhere along the lines so we weren’t gonna use him anyway? That also matters.
All due respect to WAR, it is NOT an absolute measure of a player’s worth. And using a 3 year average to prove your point is misleading from what actually was the case, that the only year Morton gave better than McLouth according to that stat, was one in which he’d have been long gone as a Brave regardless of whether Wren pulls the trigger on that deal or not. Again, Gorkys and Locke are bigger potential losses than some old headcase of a starter we’d have never used. Did McLouth give us something positive over those 3 years? Your numbers just proved it. Which is more than Morton would have given us. So again, we’re back to a pair of 23 yr old kids in AAA who may or may not pan out to keep what we gave up from not fitting your original “peanuts” description.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
Morton>McLouth
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Sep 2, 2011 12:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But can he speak Spanish?
"Forget Roy Halladay or Clayton Kershaw or Cliff Lee, the NL Cy Young Award should go to O’Ventrel." - David Schoenfield, ESPN.com, 8/19/11
Speaking spanish really helps McLouth out sitting on the bench, or when he’s in Gwinnett trying to rehab his career… haha
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Sep 2, 2011 1:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Your
Argument has been based 100% on opinion. I supplied concrete stats that make their two roles on each club comparable, which shows, since the trade Morton>McLouth
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Sep 2, 2011 2:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
“concrete stats”? You went with a 3 year average WAR and ignored any other factors involved, and assume WAR is an overall measure of who is the better and more valuable player. It may be an attempt at such a measure, but it is has many flaws, and if you tried that same measure before this season, it would have been strongly in favor of McLouth. But because he’s been injured and Morton has finally figured it out, it’s a bad deal and “Morton > McLouth”? I guess we’ll just leave it at that since you think that’s all the proof needed to confirm such a comparison.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
Morton never pitches for Atlanta, with a possible exception of 2009 (though he didn’t prior to the trade). So, yes, McLouth has been more valuable for the Braves.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Morton>McLouth
-HMC
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Sep 2, 2011 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t disagree with that, but a pitcher that doesn’t throw in the major leagues is not of greater value than a player that gets playing time and earns positive WAR, which McLouth did.
Morton wouldn’t have found his way into the starting rotation, so he would not have been as valuable to the team as McLouth was.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
But, but, but
3 years after the fact, he has a good year and finally puts up a better WAR than McLouth, so let’s ignore the worse WAR his first two years, including Nate’s horrific last year when he still was more valuable as a whole and to us, than Morton would have been, and use this year’s strong season combined with Nate’s injuries to show how Morton would have been more valuable overall, again, ignoring the previous two years as well as ignoring that Morton would most certainly not be a Brave this year after the last two.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
OPINION
Show me stats that prove McLouth has been better than Morton since the trade. You can’t… Stop arguing that your opini
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Sep 3, 2011 10:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
OPINION
Show me stats that prove McLouth has been better than Morton since the trade. You can’t… Stop arguing that your opinion is the only right one
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Sep 3, 2011 10:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I saw this interview after, he was smiling, but deep in side I think he was serious :-)
When questioned about being replaced in the 6th…
"I enjoy pitching deep into games. I feel like there were some pretty stress-free innings, even though I had a couple of jams I pitched out of. To be honest with you, I was wanting to try to hit a three-run homer." [Keeps a straight face, trying hard to avoid laughing.] "I was more disappointed that I didn’t get an at-bat, since Derek hit one yesterday. I felt like I was seeing the ball pretty good."I love Huddy’s competitiveness. You just know the BP is a great place to be with the pitchers talking junk to one another.
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~ "The NL - where our pitchers do more than just play with their balls." ~
No matter what, you can always count on Chipper being straight up honest if asked a question.
To Chipper: Best you’ve felt in a while?
"Yeah, I feel good. I feel better than a 1-for-4 indicates. Obviously it’s good I hit another homer, but I gave away three at-bats. That kind of gets the best of me whenever that happens. I had a guy that suited me real well and I got pitches to hit all night. And with the exception of the first at-bat, I just flat-out missed them."
~ "The NL - where our pitchers do more than just play with their balls." ~
Why is nobody going to see baseball in Gwinnett?
Are there really that many people that would rather spend ten bucks on a movie than sitting behind the dugout at a baseball game? I try to go to at least 2 or 3 games a month when I am home, usually end up at more than that. So empty.
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
I'd think the area, if it wants baseball just goes to Braves games
$10/ticket seems like that should be a big boost, especially with the star arms we had going seemingly every other night there, but I guess the interest in the product was overestimated more than the market.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
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