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Atlanta Braves at Florida Marlins Series Preview

Michael Bourn hopes for some better fortunes in MIami this week.

The Braves travel to Miami to take on the Marlins for the final time this season. Therefore, the Braves will be playing their last three games at Dolphin Stadium. Currently called Sun Life Stadium, the arena is not really the most aesthetically pleasing and isn't known for the crowds that it packs. Hopefully for the Marlins, their new retractable roof stadium will help to put some more asses in the seats.

The Braves are in a precarious position in first place of the NL wild card race by 3.5 games and hopefully the Marlins will be what the doctor ordered for Atlanta. After a late game meltdown by the Braves yesterday, the task of maintaining the 3.5 game lead became a bit harder. Jonny Venters issues continued in that he threw nine straight balls during the eighth inning prior to a home run off of Craig Kimbrel in the ninth. One thing that I will be watching closely is to see how the bullpen bounces back.

Chipper Jones has continued to do all that he can to help the Braves win and these rookie pitchers have been all that a Braves fan could ask for. We will be seeing Minor and Delgado on the hump during this series. However, there are a few things off about the current Braves squad that are somewhat disconcerting. Ideally the Braves would strand no runners during the Monday-Wednesday set, as this has been one of the biggest issues of late. The Marlins aren't playing terrific baseball now, though, and Atlanta just took two of three from them at home. They are 12-18 in their last thirty games. Matchups after the jump.

Star-divide

Monday 7:10 PM


Mike Minor

#36 / Pitcher / Atlanta Braves

6-3

210

R

L

Dec 26, 1987

 


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Mike Minor 5-2 13 13 0 0 0 0 72.1 81 34 33 3 26 66 4.11 1.48


Ricky Nolasco

#47 / Pitcher / Florida Marlins

6-2

230

R

R

Dec 13, 1982

 


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Ricky Nolasco 10-11 31 31 2 1 0 0 197.1 230 105 97 18 42 143 4.42 1.38

 

Tuesday 7:10 PM


Randall Delgado

#40 / Pitcher / Atlanta Braves

6-3

200

R

R

Feb 09, 1990


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Randall Delgado 0-1 5 5 0 0 0 0 25.0 19 10 9 4 11 17 3.24 1.20


Anibal Sanchez

#19 / Pitcher / Florida Marlins

6-0

205

R

R

Feb 27, 1984

 


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Anibal Sanchez 8-8 30 30 3 2 0 0 186.1 177 79 75 19 57 191 3.62 1.26

 

Wednesday 7:10 PM


Derek Lowe

#32 / Pitcher / Atlanta Braves

6-6

230

R

R

Jun 01, 1973

 


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Derek Lowe 9-15 32 32 0 0 0 0 176.2 200 102 97 12 68 132 4.94 1.52


Javier Vazquez

#23 / Pitcher / Florida Marlins

6-2

210

R

R

Jul 25, 1976

 


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Javier Vazquez 11-11 34 30 1 1 0 0 176.2 171 89 77 20 49 147 3.92 1.25

 

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This sounds familiar
The Marlins aren’t playing terrific baseball now

by nuftjedi on Sep 19, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

How this season has been going

Statements like this make me nervous.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by adc62 on Sep 19, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hadn’t the Mets lost like six in a row coming in to the Ted. And their manager said they had quit.

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, and I’m pretty sure the Mets gave the Braves “what-for” via this same method earlier this year.

However, I think the Mets feel trapped at Citi Field (as they should)…. the dimensions to that park are like whomever designed it expected 18 Pujols out there every day….

and I think the Fish have become all too accustomed to the Misery that is [Insert current name of Marlins Park here]

so, as much as I loathe this park, We would much rather catch them here, than in Atlanta.

imo

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

St Louis and SF

What I don’t like – is now we have two teams breathing down our neck. And while maybe not likely, it is conceivable that one of them could run the table….and I am afraid the Braves might just fall like a house of cards.

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then, don't take this the wrong way....

but it sounds like, in your mind, we’ve already lost.

I don’t think any “house of cards” will fall, but we definitely have a few “Aces” in that deck that are worn out, and need to be removed.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I think that by overworking O’Flarety, Venter and Kimbrel – Fredi has assured that we won’t go deep into the playoffs. They just don’t look the same. Also we haven’t shown that we can score with any regularity or even manufacture a run.
In any case if we do make the playoffs, it will be with a whimper not a roar. Prove me wrong Braves. Please prove me wrong.

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

O is fine. Kid is a force. Looks like O to me.

Venters….. I like to think he’s going to suddenly bounce back from this spell.

Kimbrell wasn’t in the zone because he didn’t have the lead. Wasn’t amped up. Plus, that Duda guy is really good.

Venters is the guy that needs to “bounce back.” Maybe let Moylan get some 8th inning love. The other 2 are fine.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moy has been promising.
Maybe we could talk the Braves into putting the tepee back in left field stands for the playoffs.

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be….. “racist”

(Like the Indians’ logo/caricature isn’t…..)

Noc-A-Homa needs to return. They tried to take him out, but they failed….

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep – darn political correctness.
I do miss watching the Chief do his dance on the mound before games.

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this society................lol.................

I see it as more of a tribute, if anything…. It at least gets a kid to ask, “What’s the deal with that dude in teh feathers?”

“Well, Billy, a long time ago, this was a natural paradise… Then….”

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven’t seen the guy that dresses like an indian and sits at the right field wall for the last few home stands. Hope the Braves didn’t run him out.

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s always there. Has been for years, I believe.

Personally, I want to see that Native American back on the sleeve for next season. Ours is respectful, at least. Not some “red indian” grinning from ear to ear. And ours is the one that gets the shelf.

no respect…

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they ran him out because he was dressing like a Brave, then that would be an all-time, epic facepalm type of move.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with almost everything you said except Kimbrel wasn’t in the zone. He struck out the first 2 batters of the inning, and then Duda somehow connected on a 97 MPH rising fastball. All I could say there is nice swing. I dont think Kimbrel pitched in any way out of the ordinary, and I dont expect many ppl to get lucky enough to hit that pitch that far in the future.

by Alex H on Sep 19, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That being said though….

If Kimbrel has the lead there….that ball is 100, not 97. And if Duda hits that too, then Duda hits that too.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duda said after the game that he was just guessing fastball and had to cheat on his swing to hit it. If Kimbrel had thrown a slider, Duda would have looked like a little leaguer (not that there was any way Kimbrel would have known that).

by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This
and then Duda somehow connected on a 97 MPH rising fastball. All I could say there is nice swing. I dont think Kimbrel pitched in any way out of the ordinary, and I dont expect many ppl to get lucky enough to hit that pitch that far in the future.

I stated in another thread that this is one of 2 HR’s Kimbrel’s gave up all season. Duda was the blind squirrel finding the occasional nut here.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by adc62 on Sep 19, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Minor since the ASB

40 Ks in 39 IPs.

More, please.

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Sep 19, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

More Minor, less Lowe.

by redwards95 on Sep 19, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Lowe

Maybe he accidently gets locked in a closet Wednesday night. Or forgets it’s Wednesday and hops on a plane back to Atlanta around 5pm. Maybe there really is a God. Maybe we don’t have to pointlessly lose that game too.

by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 19, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Feel like something could be arranged

Any TCers live down in Miami? Given Lowe’s penchant for the nightlife, it should be easy to get close to him.

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Sep 19, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roads are too congested

He wouldn’t be able to have any fun drag-racing, under sobriety of an indiscriminate, questionable level.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Sep 19, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I was thinking more like the friendly-blonde-takes-him-up-to-the-room-waking-in-the-morning-in-the-bathtub-on-ice-without-a-kidney type thing. Without the kidney part, of course.

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Sep 19, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

There may be a word for a 3.5 game lead with 9 games left, but “precarious” is not it. If the Braves were down 3.5 games with 9 left, we would be thinking it was all but over. Granted Atlanta has played terribly this month, but they’re still in decent shape not precarious. Precarious would be .5 – 1.5 games up.

by redwards95 on Sep 19, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Semi-precarious?

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Sep 19, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Cards beat Halladay, then, it’s precarious.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's only one thing I want to see in a semi state right now

and it is not the Braves play-off chances.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by adc62 on Sep 19, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSDNS

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Sep 19, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boston is semi-precarious. Atlanta is still pretty solid (89% chance of making the playoffs according to BP).

by redwards95 on Sep 19, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Braves were down 3.5 games with 9 left, we would be thinking it was all but over.

Why purposefully dumb down the situation to be simpler than you know it is?

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by SuperNewb on Sep 19, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not simpler than that. That’s the case.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Sep 19, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braves need to play like there's a fire right on their ass

Because there really a fire right on their ass. Two, actually.

Let’s not lose over dumb mistakes like dropped pop-ups and bases loaded walks, mkay? We’d be 5.5 up right now if such things weren’t problems.

by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 19, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing says “fire right on their ass,” like nearly having to win out to maintain the slim possibility of a playoff berth…

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Sep 19, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the Marlins haven't exactly been pushovers for us...

I don’t think you could ask for bigger stumbling blocks in our path before the Phillies than the always problematic Fish and former Expos.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Sep 19, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, the Marlins are the team the Braves have handled best in the division.

They are 11-4 against the Marlins this year. And are a perfect 6-0 against them in Miami. All four losses came at Turner Field.

by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t trust tripod.com either..

by WeStillHaveBobby on Sep 19, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, works for me...

if you know Simpsons and “I don’t trust these guys”, that’s the image.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Sep 19, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

the image

http://jasond456.tripod.com/gallery/quality/nude.gif (it says nude, but it’s work safe).

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Sep 19, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

FTFY

It says nude, but it’s work safe if you work at a stripclub.

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Sep 19, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that still didn't work

it worked at work damn it. One last try.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Sep 19, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Braves aren't anywhere near having to win outright

Despite the poor play late, a 3.5-game lead with only 9 left to play is still a very large lead.

In fact, if they only go 3-6 in their final 9, the Cardinals still have to go 7-3 in their final 10 just to finish tied. For the Giants, they’d have to go 7-2 in their final 9 to finish tied.

But the Braves have to realize the Cardinals don’t exactly have a daunting schedule once they leave Philadelphia, hopefully after Halladay carves them up.

The fact they control their own fate should be what motivates everyone. If they win, it doesn’t matter what anyone else does.

by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what I'm saying...

Everyone’s so worried about getting caught from behind, and I’m not particularly sure why. Even with St. Louie’s weak schedule, they aren’t going to sweep out the final week and a half. The Giants’ schedule is not at all advantageous.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Sep 19, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because we have 2 suddenly hot clubs on our ass and we haven’t been hot since….. oh yeah….. before the Hurricane.

I don’t think they’ll catch us either. Even WE aren’t playing that bad. But a Braves W, and Losses for the Cards/Giants tonight will be a great way to start this week.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't buy the Giants

They stomped the Padres and Rockies. Big deal. If they stomp the Dodgers in L.A., then I’m in on them.

by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

[They stomped the Padres and Rockies. Big deal.]

tell that to the Braves…..lol. I hate playing those teams, moreso than the Giants.

~

If they stomp the Giants, it will only be for 2 games (Kershaw is the other) and even that won’t be enough. If they had 2 weeks left, I would be nervous. But there is just no way in hell….

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

REALLY???

“WE aren’t playing that bad.”
In the last couple of weeks we have been swept by two teams. We have given up late leads. A bad team that had lost 6 in a row, just took 2 out of 3 from us and we were fortunate to win that 1. I consider that bad.

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bright side.

Gonzo has been hitting of late. :o)

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by adc62 on Sep 19, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

True. Sea Bass is on fire.
But ….
McCann is cold
Uggla is cold again
Prado is cold
Heyward is just a sad little lost puppy
Fredi G is lost as a mgr
and Huddy hasn’t hit a homer in like forever

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have liked to seen Wilson get 1 start at 2nd this series vs the Mets. Just to keep him fresh, bc yes, Uggla is struggla.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep and Jack has already shown much value. Where ummm who the heck is our hitting coach???…. Where Parrish could not get Gonzo going, a nice game by Jack Wilson sure snapped Sea Bass out of his funk.

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Sea Bass saw a potential replacement and turned it up a notch. More power to him. Keep hitting.

The thing Uggla has going for him is that Fredi is the one manager that’s going to let him keep playing. That, and he has 34 homers. Hard to take that guy out…

But seriously, got to find a start for Wilson somewhere.

…….Hitting coach?

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. I don’t see any problem giving Jack a start at second. Keep him fresh … let Gonzo know he is still there. And not bad having the threat of Uggla as a late inning pinch hitter.

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

So we just need to psychically implant this into Fredi’s mind….

but…..all that’s out the window, bc it’s the Marlins…. so Uggla will play 3.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's one way to look at it....

Another (better) way of looking at it would be….

We’ve won 3 of last 5 games…. and [technically] our last 4 series have gone like this…

Mets – swept (Won)
Cardinals – swept (Lost)
Fish – 2/3 (Won)
Mets – 2/3 (Lost)

so….

We’re due for another series Win

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok…..so the first Mets “series” listed includes a L….but we did still win that series.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Mets had been playing terrible baseball.

Also, the Braves are not in a precarious position in the Wild Card. The Cardinals, however, still are despite winning yesterday.

by walknbalk on Sep 19, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

It always seems like they’ll go on a miserable stretch, and then when Collins finally unloads on them, it’s always the Braves they play next.

Oh well. Hope they have a long offseason.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Should have won" vs. "Won" in Sep

Games that I think we agree we “should have won” (win prob. > 80%)

9/2 vs LA (Braves blow 5 run lead)
9/7 @ Phils (Venters blows 8th inning lead, lose in 9th)
9/9 @ Cards (Kimbrel blows save, lose in 10th)
9/12 vs Marlins (Braves go 3-20 with RISP, lose in 12th)
9/18 vs Mets (Venters blows 8th inning lead)

  1. of games we won that we “should have lost”
    9/4 vs LA (Braves overcome 3 run deficit in 7th inning)

Looks like we lost 4 more games than we “should have”. that’s the race.

by DonDraper on Sep 19, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

that post hurt. lol. ouch.

all good calls.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just win, dammit.

Don’t beat the Phillies, Cardinals!!

Twitter: @TAlmeyda

by TonyAlmeyda on Sep 19, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

…….lol.

Hopefully Halladay is the guy that slams the door in their face. You have to like the Phillies chances tonight. The Cards are viewing it as a must-win game……. against Halladay. A loss is exactly what those bastards need.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Halladay’s going for a Cy Young and you know everyone behind him is going to be sharp for him.

…hopefully.

by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I ever gave a crap about any of Halladays W’s this year….

It’s this one.

Get the W, Paterfamilias.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll second that. Go Phillies!

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be very careful….. I never said THAT.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Expiration Date:
This cheer is best used before 09/20/2011

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm…..

How about…. Go Halladay!!!! [exp date: 9/20/11]

The rest of the Phillies are trivial in his starts anyways. Well, I mean, he needs the one run from whomever, but, other than that…

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I trust Teheran to make a quality start

way more than I trust Lowe to make one. Can we sit Lowe to help save the season please…

If we blow this WC lead it will be the most painful thing as a sports fan that I have endured in many, many years.

I wish the players would stop pretending its alright and go out and make a statement….

All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,

by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT

Strong Side / Weak Side: Chipper Jones

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/chipper-jones,8431/

by Santaklose11 on Sep 19, 2011 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I want you to stop pretending it’s not alright.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Sep 19, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fredi’s going to pull a Bobby here and stick with Lowe (at least until Lowe has given up 3 or 4 runs and has to be yanked)

I don’t think they’ll blow it. Aside from Lowe, I still have faith in our pitching (and I think we’ll have more options from either Hanson/Medlen…..I see one of them helping us.)

Having said that… Beachy’s next start will be very telling.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lowe’s flailing about on the mound is endearing when he’s on, and flat-out annoying when he’s off….

and, when he’s off, It seems to signify to the opposing team, “Hey, Light this guy up. He’s doing all he can just to hit the zone. What he’s throwing couldn’t strike out a good high school club right now.”

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

As part of giving Lowe a short leash he should take like 15-20 more warm up throws.

Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.

by GumpBrave on Sep 19, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fredi’s going to pull a Bobby here and stick with Lowe

Unfortunately, I guess that’s what you got to do with The Multi-Million Dollar Man.
“We can re-build him…we have the technology.”

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by adc62 on Sep 19, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like to think that if Meds or Hanson coms through with a big, flashing green light, Lowe goes to “the bullpen.”

IF one of those guys comes back with starter stuff ready to go, and someone ELSE is taken down…. that will be the move that does us in.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay show of hands …
Who wants to see Lowe trotting out of the bullpen with the game on the line?

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I put “bullpen” in quotes because Lowe’s “bullpen” would be a bench.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha ha – okay, then I am on board with that.

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah.

I’m a fool, but I’m not idiot. lol

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doh!

Can’t pick between “no idiot” and “not an idiot.”

yep

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully, Lowe's trotting out the bullpen exit door

on his way to get Kimbrel a chilidog before Craig shutsdown our playoff opponent.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by adc62 on Sep 19, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teheran is done

They are limiting his innings for the rest of the year

by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Balls

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That picture of Nolasco looks like he just sharted in his pants.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by adc62 on Sep 19, 2011 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Tangent...

Where else would one shart, if not in one’s pants??

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Sep 19, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't Confucius say that?

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by adc62 on Sep 19, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Venters

I’d be concerned about him if his velocity was down. But it’s not. He’s still throwing 95-96. His location has just left him right now. He went through a stretch like this in late-June/early-July. He evened out pretty quickly. He’ll be fine.

(McClelland’s keyhole strike zone didn’t help.)

by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope you’re right. He’s young but, he’s had a lot of appearances this year.

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Sep 19, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has, but Fredi has done a really good job of cutting his usage down in the second half. A lot of that was thanks to Arodys Vizcaino.

by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That. All of it.

We didn’t do ourselves any favors, but the man behind the mask was McClelland. Strike zone the size of a fist. Literally.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

How freaking old is McCCCClllllellllllend anyway?

Hang em up, dude. Let it go. There won’t be another pine tar game for you to atone.

And take Joe West with you.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a bad umpire.

Everyone dreads hearing when he’s behind the plate.

35 years of bullshit.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's the one with the bad 70s 'stash

The one that heaved EOF after not getting a call on a pitch thigh high down the middle and then asked Bobby at game in Florida to pick someone on the roster to be ejected….

uggh….can’t think of it. He’s an asscocker.

by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 19, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Safe to say

we got fisted.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by adc62 on Sep 19, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s one way to say it.

But guy has no business calling games anymore. He’s one of the umps that has the ability to throw guys into funks, intentional or not.

Both he and Joe West are 59 years old.

Hang it up, boys.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess the one good thing you could say

was that he was consistent on not giving the low strike to either team.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by adc62 on Sep 19, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

But where he screws guys is right here……

Guy throws 2 balls in a row. Ok.

Then he throws a solid strike. ……..Tim rises, slowly. Ball 3.

That is what makes Tim Mc games into a farce. 8 of 10 umpires call strike 1 in that scenario. Joe West is the other one.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not disagreeing that the ump wasn't bad

just saying he was bad toward both teams.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by adc62 on Sep 19, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Red Sox just lost Game 1 of their double header to the Orioles

Rays now only 1.5 back. Boston’s version of Derek Lowe, John Lackey, is pitching Game 2. Rays are off today.

Misery loves company.

by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

YES!!!

That is so money. I’ve got a friend who is an Orioles freak. He is loving this one (hopefully two)

Even if it does throw a possible wrench into my World Series prediction…….

SCREW. THE. BOSTON. RED. SOCKS.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are so many similarities between the Braves and Red Sox

- Inability to hit with RISP
-
Starting pitching fading
— Venters and Bard both suddenly struggling

by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

But this gives us the edge...

Lowe – only 1 more year
Lackey – 3 (maybe 4)

either way, I couldn’t help but smile to myself when the Red Sox signed that one. That, and the Crawford deal, help to negate the AGon deal, a little.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

Tampa Bay >> Cards or Giants

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Sep 19, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lackey’s under contract through 2014

by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would stab a loved one in the chest...

To beat a bad team 7-2, or 5-1. I can’t remember the last time I could relax during a game.

by Frozen Fan on Sep 19, 2011 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I can remember…..

Look at that stretch before Irene. We were all sleeping with visions of sugar plums dancing in our heads.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game three is a lock.

Lowe is so vetreny, and experiency and leadery.

by Frozen Fan on Sep 19, 2011 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Gimme back that filet-o-fish

gimme that fish.
thats all.

"I Farted" - Me, everday

by HeyMikey on Sep 19, 2011 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Revised pitching match ups: Kenshin Kawakami is now pitching in game 3.

Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.

by GumpBrave on Sep 19, 2011 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Lol. No.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
"Wang, my third at-bat, he threw me a 1-0 fastball that I fouled straight back, and he came back with another heater, which surprised me." - Freddie Freeman
~
Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Sep 19, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be worse

Just look at the Red Sox. That’s a team in a precarious position.

"I Farted" - Me, everday

by HeyMikey on Sep 19, 2011 6:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

the truth is....

I’m terrified about Bravos situation now! Chipper with that error cause ur team :-(

by Braves.14 on Sep 19, 2011 10:24 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

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