Atlanta Falls To New York 7-5.
by SCrebel10 on Sep 18, 2011 6:01 PM EDT
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After a key win yesterday, the Braves left 15 runners on base and couldn't hold a late lead as they lost to New York 7-5.
Atlanta struck first in the bottom of the third inning, as Michael Bourn led off with a single to center field. Two batters later, Chipper Jones doubled to left center field, scoring Bourn and making it a 1-0 game early.
Brandon Beachy walked Lucas Duda with one out in the top of the fourth inning, and Duda advanced to third on a single from Nick Evans. Evans moved up to second on a groundout by Josh Thole. Fredi Gonzalez decided to intentionally walk Justin Turner to load the bases for Mets starting pitcher Dillon Gee.
Beachy inexplicably ended up walking Gee, bringing in Duda to score and tying the game at one. Ruben Tejada followed with a bases clearning double, giving New York the lead at 4-1.
The rest after the jump.
The Braves battled back in the bottom of the inning. Alex Gonzalez led off with a home run to to left field to make it a 4-2 game. Jason Heyward followed with a single, and advanced to second thanks to a sacrifice bunt from Beachy. Bourn singled to center, scoring Heyward to make it a 4-3 game in favor of New York.
A Martin Prado single and a walk to Chipper loaded the bases for Dan Uggla, who grounded out to first base, scoring Bourn. Bourn's run tied the game up at four. Atlanta couldn't scratch across any more runs in the inning though.
The Braves took the lead in the bottom of the seventh against Miguel Bautista. Alex Gonzalez kept up his hot hitting with a double, and scored on a single from Freddie Freeman to give Atlanta a 5-4 lead.
Jonny Venters came on to pitch the top of the eighth and struggled.The Mets loaded the bases with two outs for Ronny Paulino. Venters walked him, Atlanta's second bases loaded walk of the game, to bring in Bay and tie the game at five.
Tejada followed with a single to right field, scoring Reyes. Justin Turner tried to score as well but was gunned down by Jason Heyward at the plate to keep the Braves deficit at 6-5.
Craig Kimbrel pitched the top of the ninth, and gave up a rare home run to Duda to make it a 7-5 game.
The Braves got two runners on in the bottom of the ninth against Manny Acosta, but Martin Prado grounded out to second base to end the game.
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Minor, Delgado, and Lowe against the Fish
Anybody know who they’ll be throwing out there?
I hope Minor and Delgado are up to the task, Lowe isn’t.
Monday: Minor vs. Nolasco
Tuesday: Delgado vs. Sanchez
Wednesday: Lowe vs. Vazquez
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Omg VASQUEZ???
He beat Lannan last week complete game!!!
by Braves.14 on Sep 18, 2011 8:44 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Also, anybody got the teams stats with RISP in the 2nd-half?
No clue how to find them on B-R….
Oh, forgot today was Sunday
And since the Braves lost, no users on TC.
The only good thing about Sundays is Breaking Bad. EVERYTHING else sucks.
Taco Sunday.
Tacos $0.69 at Taco Bell.
by !Vive la Francoeur! on Sep 18, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Those are the only runs we’re going to get
Free LoMo and Free Hat
by a hooter's baby on Sep 18, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Giants just won their 8th straight
They are now just 4 games back of the Braves.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 6:21 PM EDT reply actions
Gonna be difficult for them to keep that pace up though
And they still have 3 left with the Diamondbacks.
Really hope the Phillies win tonight….
by Undocorkscrew on Sep 18, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Eric Hinske vs. Orlando Cabrera
There can only be one good luck charm that gets in
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
I gotta stop going to games
Went Friday, went today, both losses. Going to all three games in DC next weekend, so if things get ugly, I’ll take the blame.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
“A fat woman clip-clops into the shoestore today and says “I want something I can feel comfortable in.” so I said “Try Wyoming!”."
by !Vive la Francoeur! on Sep 18, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Braves are 6-0 in Miami this year
Not sure if that’s a good thing though….
They do have their 3 best starters against us with a red hot Vazquez
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Sep 18, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest
I’d rather see them face good pitching at this point.
by Undocorkscrew on Sep 18, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
well
That’s not how I imagined this game going.
by drumzalicious on Sep 18, 2011 6:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Anybody got the Phillies lineup?
I’m expecting something like this…..
Valdez – SS
Francisco – RF
Gload – CF
Mayberry – 1B
Schneider – C
Martinez – 3B
Ibanez – LF
Orr – 2B
1. Jimmy Rollins (S) SS
2. Shane Victorino (S) CF
3. Chase Utley (L) 2B
4. Hunter Pence® RF
5. Raul Ibanez (L) LF
6. Placido Polanco® 3B
7. Ross Gload (L) 1B
8. Brian Schneider (L) C
9. Cole Hamels (L) P
Free LoMo and Free Hat
by a hooter's baby on Sep 18, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Manuel’s got too much pride to throw garbage teams out there. He played all of his starters the last three days of the season against the Braves last year.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
There's still a franchise record in wins to break
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Still not worried
Better to be us right now than the Card’s. We sweep in FL and its just like taking 2 out of 3 in both. A little surprised that after realizing Venters was having control issues, Fredi didnt get someone warming up sooner. Why leave a guy out there with the game pretty much on the line. I dont know who should have gone in, but that hurt. Don Sutton made what I think was a good point on the radio. They should teach young pitchers to be more afraid of walks than of home runs. The walks by Beachy and by Venters were the undoing of this game. But hey, were still in the lead. I would be more worried if I had 12 left to play and we were down by 4 instead of up. I suspect the Phils will beat the Cards tonight, and all will be fine.
"I Farted" - Me, everday
Not worried ?????
A sweep in Florida ? The way we are playing right now – to expect a sweep is eternal optimism !! Look, the reality is if the Phillies win tonight we are still in pretty good shape but there is not much to be happy about if you are a Braves fan right now – to be playing as inconsistent as we are with only nine games left is worrisome at best !!
by bravesfaninchitown on Sep 18, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Not much to be happy about??
Pretty sure there are at least 18 other teams that have no shot at the playoffs that would love to be in the Braves’ position right now…and a couple teams on the outside looking in that will basically have to win out to have a chance at playing more than 162 games.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
going from 8.5 games up to 3.5 up in the wc race and playing the way we are is what I am talking about -
by bravesfaninchitown on Sep 18, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Being 3 1/2 up with single digits to go is what I’m talking about. The Braves could go 1-for-3 in all three series and the Cards would have to win 8 of 10.
There’s not a team in the league that wouldn’t take 3 1/2 up with less than 10 games to go at the beginning of a season, and yet everyone’s acting as if Atlanta needs help to get to the playoffs. It’s a little ridiculous.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Sep 18, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Braves go 1-3 in the 3 remaining series, not only will they probably miss the playoffs, they will deserve to miss the playoffs. Hellfire, we might finish 3rd in the WC race!
"First!"...Who gives a damn if you are first
So which do you think is least likely, the Braves winning 3 of 9, or the Cards/Giants winning out?? That’s essentially what it’s going to take.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Sep 19, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I was just using your 3 of 9 finish. Honestly, we could finish with any concievable record out of the 9 games remaining. Nothing would surprise me at this point. I’m a lot more confident that the Cards will keep winning with their schedule, than the Braves will start winning with theirs. I hope we sweep the Marlins, but we seem to be falling apart.
"First!"...Who gives a damn if you are first
your missing my point ....
If you think they way we have been playing over the last 2 weeks is not troubling your high … even if we get in the playoffs, which I think we will – the hangover effect from playing so poorly is a concern.
by bravesfaninchitown on Sep 18, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t miss your point, and it’s not troubling with a lead as large as the Braves’.
Teams get hot and go cold in the blink of an eye, happens all the time. The Giants had won just two series in the month and a half prior to their most recent winning streak. The lost three straight before the streak began.
If it makes you feel better to freak out, go ahead. But there’s not much sense in it.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Sep 19, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
not freaking out but just concerned ….
by bravesfaninchitown on Sep 19, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we played a decent NLDS in 2010, despite absolutely sucking down the stretch, with injuries insuring a certain amount of bad play. But with a couple of breaks in our way we might actually win that series.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
A little surprised that after realizing Venters was having control issues, Fredi didnt get someone warming up sooner.
Why? What has happened this season to make you think he would be aware of that fact or do anything constructive about it if by some miracle he was? He thinks that this is June and Jonny is still automatic. His blinkered cluelessness is breathtaking to behold.
I understand having a bit of confidence...
But I don’t get how someone can not be worried… ah well, to each his own.
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I am not worried because there is nothing I can do about it anyway. What will happen, will happen. Worrying will only make you age faster. I can be upset about, but my worrying will not change a thing. Life is short, dont worry, be happy.
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By that same logic wouldn’t cheering for the team or even rooting for the team be similarly irrelevant and taxing?
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
After a 15-4 stretch, the Braves have gone 9-14 in the 23 games that followed.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions
Just throwing this out there....
Does ANYBODY want Brooks Conrad on the playoff roster? He offers nothing but some occasional pop and can’t play any defensive position with any sort of competence. He’s hitting around .160 with RISP with no XBH this season.
Plus, I don’t want to have to be reminded of last years NLDS every time the camera shows him. And if he’s on the roster, that’s definitely going to happen.
this ....
Is the least of our problems right now !! This team is playing with absolutely no confidence right now and we still have the phillies and nationals left to play – two teams that we have not played well against this year – let’s get real – we are in trouble and it is probably going to take other teams’ to help us out for us to make the playoffs – either way a sad state going into the playoffs. Let’s hope we can turn this thing around.
by bravesfaninchitown on Sep 18, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
turn this thing around...
Starting Pitchers are down, bullpen struggling (ESPN reporter said it’s pressure) offense can’t put all together. With 9 to go magic number at 7, the good thing is we’re lead by 4. Go Braves… Before it’s too late.
by Braves.14 on Sep 18, 2011 8:59 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Our penchant for LOBster
is not mixing well with our recent pitching woes.
by Aaron Meier on Sep 18, 2011 7:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
In all fairness
A loss sucks and all, but Tim McClelland’s strike zone was egregious. From what I bothered to look at on my phone, pitch trax showed at least three strikes that were blatantly not called, and naturally resulted in walks or ensuing hits.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Only three?
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by -InsertWittyNameHere- on Sep 18, 2011 10:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was at the game
I try to disconnect as much as possible, but still look on my phone from time to time
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Thought this was interesting...
@BusterESPN Phillies are basically playing their regulars tonight because STL is in a pennant race;Manuel feels he owes it to ATL, STL to play regulars.
"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 18, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
Charlie's a stand up guy
I really don’t have anything against him or any of the Philly players other than “J-Roll”. My disdain of Philadelphia comes from the 1) most aggressive, obnoxious, and self-righteous fanbase I can ever recall seeing, 2) the high payroll, and 3) the love affair the national media has with them. We’d owe it to them to play teams hard if we were in the reverse position.
So yea, for tonight and tomorrow, go Phillies.
by crimsonqueen9 on Sep 18, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
If you throw in Victorino, that’s identical to my issues with them.
by Ivan the Great on Sep 18, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Ding, ding, ding!
"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 18, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Phillies center fielder Shane Victorino is the winner of the 2011 Branch Rickey Award in recognition of his work with youth in Philadelphia and his native Hawaii.
Created by the Rotary Club of Denver in 1991, the Branch Rickey Award honors individuals in baseball who contribute to their communities and are strong role models for young people.
Each year, major league teams nominate a player, coach or executive, either active or retired, for the award.
Last year, Victorino and his wife, Melissa, founded the Shane Victorino Foundation to help underserved youth and they pledged nearly $1 million to renovate the Nicetown Boys & Girls Club in Philadelphia.
by EastFallowfield on Sep 18, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome, he's still an asshat.
"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 18, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
“During its first two years of operation in 1998 and 1999, the Bonds Family Foundation directly donated nearly $100,000 to Bay Area charities, records show. And Gardner says that the foundation has stepped up its efforts, donating $326,000 over the last two years to things like the United Way’s Link ’n Learn computer technology program for schools like Verde Elementary in North Richmond.”
Even Barry Bonds got recognized for his philanthropic work at one point.
by Ivan the Great on Sep 18, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I know he’s an asshat to everyone not a fan of the Phils, but I think he does do charity work willingly, he’s not Barry Bonds doing it for PR.
Sorry he couldn’t help you out tonight. Maybe tomorrow!
by EastFallowfield on Sep 18, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Charlie’s a stand up guy
He is. He’s from right up the road here, like Billy Wagner. What you see is what you get. I truly wish he was our manager.
I've got nothing against the big payroll
I wish Liberty Media would throw some big bucks Atlanta’s way.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
Which also means they will play their best against us in the last 3. Charlie Manuel is also apologizing early for that in my opinion.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Which also means they will play their best against us in the last 3. Charlie Manuel is also apologizing early for that in my opinion.
Which is why the Braves need to take care of buisness now. If the WC is determined by this final regular season match-up the Phillies will play us hard. I think the team they least want to face in a playoff scenario would be the Braves.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
I don't have a problem with Manuel
Always seemed like a class act.
I hate the Phillies because of their fans and because they’re in our division… nothing against most of the players besides Victorino and Jimmy Rollins.
Go USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Caps, Skins, NU Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom
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Ever since Rollins asked Chipper for help and Chipper gave him one of his “big” bats, I’ve figured Rollins was OK. If Chipper likes him enough to help him out…..
"First!"...Who gives a damn if you are first
Ways you know you're in a rut
If you get great pitching, you get no offense
If you get offense, your starter has an egregiously bad outing
If you get good offense and good pitching, the bullpen will blow it
If you manage to get everything, the defense will mail it in
Sweep the Fish and the magic number is down to at least 4. Don’t sweep the fish, and it gets scarier.
Excellent start, Phillies…
"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 18, 2011 8:14 PM EDT reply actions
Final schedules after tonight
Braves:
- 3 @ FLA
- 3 @ WAS
- 3 vs. PHI
Cardinals
- 3 vs. NYM
- 3 vs. CHC
- 3 @ HOU
Giants
- 3 @ LAD
- 3 @ ARI
- 3 vs. COL
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
The Cardinals have one more games vs. the Phillies after tonight.
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 18, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
True
I should have said final 9 for each team.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Cardinals appear to have a remaining schedule that is the easiest of the three – even more reason to be worried.
by bravesfaninchitown on Sep 18, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
MUCH easier than ours.
That's the thing about baseball, no time clock. Anything is possible until the last out.
by BravesFaninAZ on Sep 18, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The ESPN gushing
Over Hunter Pence is becoming disgusting.
"You owe it to yourself to be successful. After that you'll owe it to the IRS."
I get no joy from watching Atlanta anymore. They are close to the worst team to watch.
I hope they make the playoffs but with the funk they have been in for about a month now I don’t think they’ll go far.
Please stop watching then. Your negativity is of no use around here
"I Farted" - Me, everday
by HeyMikey on Sep 18, 2011 10:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Funny thing about the internet. You can tell people what to do all you want but nobody listens.
Simple fact this team had a 10 game wildcard lead not long ago that is now down to 3.5 games. They haven’t played well for about a month.
Lowe and Prado are the main people that I blame.
I would have to add McCann to that list.
That's the thing about baseball, no time clock. Anything is possible until the last out.
by BravesFaninAZ on Sep 18, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
True
Since his injury he hasn’t looked good. Chipper has really carried the offense lately.
Which makes his injury in a week pretty much guaranteed.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
it's looking like the WC lead will once again shrink to 3 on the loss column
3.5 in reality with Cardinals having that extra game, barring a late collapse in the 9th by the Cardinals
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 18, 2011 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
Cards win 5-0
Such a missed opportunity today. I have no further comment
OK
So I expect we will finally hear no more comments from the players indicating that this is “no big deal”. The playoffs are happening right now for the Braves. What a time for the pitching to collapse (Huddy game last night being a MAJOR exception). I truly hope Fredi uses Delgado over Lowe, but I don’t think it’s gonna happen. Our players got a BUNCH of hits AND walks today. We seem to be having the same dilemma hitting with RISP. 3 for 15!! Ugh.
This last part of the season is going to be a nail biter.
That's the thing about baseball, no time clock. Anything is possible until the last out.
by BravesFaninAZ on Sep 18, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Just bought my NLDS tickets but I’m pretty worried. 3.5 game lead with 3 against the Phillies and, even worst, 3 with the nationals. We gotta hold on tight and play good ball immediately.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
We need a red hot streak right now.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Do you guys think
that we would be better off with Minor and Delgado at this point than JJ and Tommy coming back and giving it a go after not pitching in so long?
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
I'd still rather have Hanson
He’s got the playoff experience from last year. Bonus points if he looks good in his rehab start and final MLB start.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
If Hanson is healthy
I’d rather have him. JJ won’t be back unless we make it past the first round of the playoffs, and I would be fine with him pitching.
That's the thing about baseball, no time clock. Anything is possible until the last out.
by BravesFaninAZ on Sep 18, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
If we do make the playoffs (yes, it’s officially IF) then we absolutely need Hanson. Hanson gives us a huge advantage in a playoff setting.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
So that being said..
playoff rotation of:
Hudson, Beachy, Hanson and Minor as our number four in the nlcs if we get there would be our best hope in your opinion?
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
Playoff odds after Braves losing and Cardinals/Giants winning
88.8%
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 11:31 PM EDT reply actions
Luckily numbers can’t watch the games. Also, I might be wrong, but that probably isn’t considering relative success against the remaining schedule. But like I’ve said, the statistics are strongly in our favor, but things on the field are quite the opposite. We need the team to get hot a lot more than the 88.8% (which must be supremely lucky to me, seeing as I was born on 3/8/88 at 3:08 and weighed 8 pounds 8 ounces.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
You're wrong...
Assuming that’s from Baseball Prospectus, it certainly takes into account relative success against the remaining schedule.
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Good. Like I said I didn’t know. That 88.8% just sounds a lot better than I feel, and I feel so uncertain on our chances because I’ve been following the Cardinals as well as my Braves closely. It probably does, but I’d be curious to see what the probability is of 2 out of 3 against the Nationals (which has been very hard to come by in the last 3 years)
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
It is. They do factor in remaining schedule. That’s why Boston has higher playoff odds despite being only 2.0 back. They have 7 games left against the Orioles.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember last year, when we had like a 7 game lead on the Phillies, our odds to win the division were really high. We all know how that turned out. After last year, I stopped paying attention to the ‘odds.’
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
i like our position
but that being said the way we are playing it doesn’t feel near that high
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
If the Braves go 3-6 in their final 9 games:
- The Cardinals have to go 7-3 in their final 10 games to finish tied
- The Giants have to go 8-1 in their final 9 games to finish tied
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
i think the giants would have to go 7-2. Since they are four games back
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
by medlenisking on Sep 18, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right.
My math was off. Giants would have to go 7-2 to tie if the Braves go 3-6.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That feels really good. I’m going to be telling myself that a lot in the next 18 hours. But to be fair, the Cardinals face really week competition with the exception of 1 PHI game and the Braves face the Phillies, the Nationals (enough said), and the Marlin’s best pitching.
Let’s assume we only pick up 1 out of 3 against the Phils making us 1-2 (not a guarantee but look at last year and the last series and this seems a good starting point.
Let’s assume we win 2 out of 3 for the Marlins. That takes us to 5-5. If the Cardinals indeed win 7-3, well we are out of luck.
With such a talented team and such a strong lead, it’s really sad that we are at this point.
Like I said, we need a winning streak badly.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Terry Collins got his boys ready to beat the Braves
Don’t think he’s going to hype them up to ruin it for the Cardinals too
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But in my opinion we got the three best active pitchers the mets had to offer this series. The cards won’t have to deal with Gee or Dickey
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
by medlenisking on Sep 18, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Their website has it listed
as the mets throwing Capuano on Thursday
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
by medlenisking on Sep 18, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I forgot there was an off-day for the Mets tomorrow. But Collins may want to skip a less-effective starter in order for the Cardinals to face Dickey on Thursday.
He’s crazy about spoiling it up for contending teams.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point.......
I really hope you are right. That Schwinden kid the mets have been pitching has not looked good
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
by medlenisking on Sep 19, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Capuano and Dickey would be on their normal four-days rest too if he did that.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh, I don’t care about rankings, those 3 pitchers just own us. I said before the series that that might be the most terrifying trio for the Braves possible.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
I completely agree......
And strangely I am not worried about the three guys the Marlins will throw at us……I think we do work and sweep that series. But the Washington and Philadelphia series scare the crap out of me
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
by medlenisking on Sep 18, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Give me a generally good pitcher over a lefty journeyman or a rookie any day. Something about tension and familiarity is a magical elixir for this lineup.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
agreed
I would rather face cliff lee than capuano right now
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
by medlenisking on Sep 18, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Mets win 2 out of 3 and the Cardinals lose tomorrow and lose 2 against the Mets then it’s basically over. A loss tonight was an anomaly caused by our best parts failing Venters, SP (to a lesser extent, because the advantage was gained after SP was out of the equation) and Kimbrel failing is definitely a strange scenario.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Don't forget the Larry Parrish special stat
3-for-15 with RISP and 15 runners left on base
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, part of my angst is that I think the Cards win tonight if they played the Mets. I know it’s a lot more difficult than that, but if the situations were somehow equal I think they come away with it. Part of that is just how they are trending. And I hope that that means the Cards peaked too early and the Braves are about to hit a hot streak. I hope so at least.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
I'm not really worried about the Giants.
They have won 8 games, yes. But 7 of those 8 games were against crappy teams.
Their test is going to be three in L.A. and three in Arizona. They were beat 2-out-of-3 by the Dodgers a few weeks ago. The Giants winning the last game of that series was the start of the winning streak.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah I’m not worried about the Giants. I’m kinda worried about the Cards though to be honest.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
If the Cardinals beat Roy Halladay tomorrow with Kyle Lohse pitching…I’m going to officially hit the panic button.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 18, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Look, I generally am optimistic. Hell, my take on this is that the Cards peaked too early and that the Braves are due for a winning streak. But the fact is that we have to win to get to the playoffs, and that has been a challenge lately, though the Cardinals are making it look easy.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
i would be
right there with you
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
by medlenisking on Sep 18, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Not worried about the Giants ....
Defending World Champions – they know how to win – yes, they have a tough schedule to close out but to be nonchalant about them is crazy imo.
by bravesfaninchitown on Sep 18, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
What I mean is that right now I’m not worried because they swept two garbage teams.
If they go into Los Angeles then Phoenix and stomp the Dodgers and Diamondbacks, then I’lll believe in them.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
What is the plan with Kris Medlen?
I keep hearing rumors about how he could pitch the last week of the season? Do you think that’s if and only if the braves lock things up?
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Medlen and Hanson are going down to the Instructional League tomorrow for work. Hanson will make a start and throw a few pen sessions. Medlen will make some appearances from the bullpen.
If all goes well and the Braves have clinched the Wild Card by the time they come back, you will definitely see Hanson and Medlen in MLB action against the Phillies.
If they are still fighting for a spot, you may still see Hanson but may only see Medlen in a blowout situation.
If both look good, they will be on the postseason roster. Medlen is very effective against left-handers and they need that with George Sherrill looking like he’s done for the year.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember the warm uterus that was 98% playoff probability?
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Those
were good days
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
by medlenisking on Sep 19, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Just remember in 2009...
The Braves went on that got 15-2 run in September to come within 2 games of the Rockies with 6 games left.
They lost the last six in a row.
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 12:21 AM EDT reply actions
I'm pretty sure
that the last 4 losses (a sweep at home to the Nats of all people) came AFTER the Braves were mathematically eliminated
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 19, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Braves were knocked out after the first Nationals loss
by AnEternalEnigma on Sep 19, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
RIght, I remember now. The game (and Braves’ playoff hopes) ended with Matt Diaz being picked off 3rd by the catcher after wandering too far on a ball in the dirt.
by LEastCoastBears on Sep 19, 2011 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Chill out
We’re going to the playoffs. Bank it. Once there, It’s a new season.
The reason BP had us as a virtual lock to go to the playoffs was that we had a huge lead and could squander some of it on a cold stretch. I’d rather have that stretch now than in a few weeks when the playoffs start.
Whether the Braves squeak in or whether they get in with a 4 or 5 game cushion doesn’t matter. You don’t get style points. And it’s really, really hard to make up 3 games (in the loss column) with 10 to go. Sure, it’s been gut-wrenching to watch the lead get smaller, but it’s still a lead. And this is still a damn good team.
Aren’t pennant races fun? Think how much fun Astros fans are having right now.
Carrying on Bobby's Legacy!
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