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Rookies Freddie Freeman and Craig Kimbrel Headline TC's Atlanta Braves July MVPs and LVPs

hey you guys i heard there was a rookie of the year award up in here

July started out hot (7-3), and then the All-Star Break kind of put the brakes on things. But a hiccup for the Braves still means one game over .500 (9-8) to finish out the last 17 games of July, and overall, it still results in a positive 16-11 month, with the squad unfortunately falling back to six games behind the Phillies.

Without further ado, here are your July most valuable, and least valuable Atlanta Braves, as voted by the Talking Chop crew.  Like always, a variety of numbers and factors are examined when coming to these selections, and majority votes rule.

Most Valuable Player


Bedard

Freddie Freeman (Says it all) ---------------->

#5 / First Base / Atlanta Braves

6-5

225

L

R

Sep 12, 1989


Credentials: Played and started in all 27 games in July, and in 120 plate appearances, hit .362/.433/.600 (1.033 OPS), launching six home runs, driving in 18, while scoring 17 of his own. He cut down on the strikeouts (24), while walking more than any other month this season (13), and even stole two bases to boot. Peripherally, he dazzled with a .238 ISO, and his ability to utilize literally all parts of the field led to an absurd .421 BABIP, and got on-base to the tune of a jaw-dropping .446 wOBA. In terms of WPA, he put up a godly +1.795 score, which is the highest monthly score from any position player all year.

It was pretty much a no-brainer for Freddie Freeman, as he pretty much anchored the team's offense all throughout the month, while playing stellar defense at first along the way. An honorable mention goes to Dan Uggla, for having himself an extremely strong July in his own right, hitting .293/.369/.586 with 8 HR and 19 RBI to rebound from the atrocious first half of the season. But nobody was touching Freddie after the kind of month he had.

Star-divide

Jonny Venters Award for Relief Excellence


Craig Kimbrel

#46 / Pitcher / Atlanta Braves

5-11

205

R

R

May 28, 1988


Credentials:  12.0 innings pitched, 43 batters faced.  Allowed just 5 hits, zero for extra bases, zero home runs allowed, zero earned runs allowed, zero runs allowed, and an ERA of zero. Kimbrel struck out 19 batters, while only walking three. Best month of the season in terms of walks/9 (2.25), batting average (.125), WHIP (0.67), BABIP (.238), FIP (0.58). Strand rate of 100%. WPA score of +0.889. 8 for 8 in save opportunities, and broke the MLB record for most saves by a rookie before the All-Star Break (27). In the two inning difference between June and July, Kimbrel threw 60 fewer pitches, which is great news for preservation of that powerful arm.

Just how good was Craig Kimbrel in July? Look at Jonny Venters' numbers, who was pretty much an afterthought in July compared to Craig: 12.1 IP, 49 BF, 4 hits, 0 XBH, 0.00 ERA, 100% strand rate, .100 BA, and a higher +1.038 WPA score. The chief difference was Jonny's walk peripherals in July, which were the worst month of his season. But it doesn't take a genius to see that Jonny was as dominant as could be, and still didn't measure up to Kimbrel. We may have to re-name the award next month...

Pitching MVP:


Tim Hudson

#15 / Pitcher / Atlanta Braves

6-1

175

R

R

Jul 14, 1975


Credentials: Six starts, a 4-1 record (Braves went 4-2), tossed 41.1 innings with an ERA of 2.83. Five of his six starts, Huddy went at least 7.0 IP. 168 batters hit .237/.301/.329 and hit just three homers, walking 11 times, while striking out 34 times. As always, Huddy kept the ball on the ground (55.9 GB%), inducing five Jose Vidro specials, and stranded runners at an 80.8% clip. Top WPA score from all starting pitchers, at +0.423.

To be fair, July was kind of a brutal month for all the Braves' starters, as the All-Star Break couldn't have come at a worse time. In terms of peripheral stats, Hudson wasn't the best in every category, but his consistent reliability, and the fact that he avoided the implosions that bit Hanson and Jurrjens at least once this month is why he's still an easy choice for our pitching MVP.

David Ross Award for Reliability Off the Bench


Eric Hinske

#20 / Left Field / Atlanta Braves

6-2

235

L

R

Aug 05, 1977


Credentials: Played in 18 games, starting in 10. In his 47 plate appearances, Hinske hit .282/.404/.438, and cranked two more home runs, driving in seven, while walking seven times versus 11 strikeouts. Accumulated +0.343 WPA score.

Not a whole lot more superlatives that can be rained upon Eric Hinske that haven't already been said before. Whether it's the clutch hits, or the comedic heroics of his running, plowing, barreling, pseudo-leaping outfield grabs, for the record, little made me happier during the off-season than finding out that Hinske was going to be a Brave for a little bit longer.

Least. Valuable. Player.


Alex Gonzalez

#2 / Short Stop / Atlanta Braves

5-11

215

R

R

Feb 15, 1977


Made 25 starts, hindered 26 total games. In 109 plate appearances, A-Gon actually improved his batting average this past month, but still to only just .208.  Overall it's .208/.229/.264 (.494 OPS). He struck out 26 times, while only walking thrice, and hit into five double plays. Lowest month of BB/K (0.12), ISO (.057), and wOBA (.223) of the year. The defense is always nice, but overall, he killed the Braves in July - WPA score of -1.120, which almost entirely negates all of Freddie Freeman's contributions.

Least. Valuable. Pitcher.


Derek Lowe

#32 / Pitcher / Atlanta Braves

6-6

230

R

R

Jun 01, 1973


Derek Lowe started in five games in which he and the Braves went 2-3. In fairness to him, the three losses, the Braves only scored 1, 2, and 2, but the fact remains is that Lowe was far too hittable all throughout July. In 27.1 innings pitched, Lowe faced 127 batters, who fared .325/.384/.404 against him, and despite not giving up any home runs, he still allowed 18 runs, with just 13 strikeouts versus 10 walks, leading to an ERA of 5.86 for the month. His WPA score was a rotation-worst -0.772. He was plagued by a season's worst .359 BABIP, despite actually having the best FIP of the five starters (3.25), and GB% went down while LD% went up. One of the biggest issues however, is the lack of stamina that Lowe has demonstrated in July, as his outings have been 5.1, 6.0, 6.1, 5.0, and 5.0 respectively; the sixth innings have been particularly cruel to him, as he has yielded eight hits and four earned runs in 6th innings this month. 

Also making this a race was, you guessed it, Scott Proctor. Take out the 19-inning Pittsburgh game which made his WPA look somewhat less sucky, and you've got -0.772. He appeared eight times, and gave up runs in five of them, with all five of those being Braves losses. Unfortunately, Scott Linebrink was removed with the phantom injury instead of Proctor, and he remains on the roster to this day.

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Freddie seems like an excellent defensive first baseman...

anyone know why he doesn’t score well on the advanced defensive metrics? Poor range? Certainly he can scoop it at first, which seems like the important thing a first baseman does defensively.

by ruxsin on Aug 2, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep, poor range.

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by king of games on Aug 2, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

range would be my guess here

but I’ve often wondered this myself

Spring Training is the greatest thing that can't end soon enough

by JKowalek on Aug 2, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how the metrics take into account outs saved on bad throws. Seems hard to quantify. I would safely say that Freeman is more valuable defensively than a theoretical AAA player.

by ruxsin on Aug 2, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he can reach it, he can certainly pick it — best I’ve seen since watching baseball at any time, any level.

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by carpengui on Aug 2, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

And if he played for the Mets, Red Sox, or Yankees, he could even win a Gold Glove.

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

No. I’m just sick of that word.

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

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no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
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by abraves257 on Aug 2, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don't...

Picks, etc., are not measurable in UZR’s format (and if you have an idea of exactly how to accomplish that, feel free to pass it along).

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Aug 2, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Range and also the defensive metrics like UZR supposedly need a full season or more of data to be reliable. Range accounts for like 60% of UZR I believe.

by pbrfan on Aug 2, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea that makes sense. SSS I suppose.

by ruxsin on Aug 2, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've never understood how significant range is for first basemen, anyway

I’ve said it before, on almost every single ball hit in play, the first baseman is moving toward first base rather than toward the ball. And a significant number of the unassisted outs that Freeman makes are on line drives, which UZR doesn’t count because they’re declared to be pure luck.

For this and other reasons, I can’t take first baseman UZR/DRS at face value.

My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.

by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

by Bronn on Aug 2, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably even more than 60% at 1B, since the throwing/DP/etc. don’t figure in nearly as much. UZR for 1B is more than a little wonky, and even its creators will admit that. Unfortunately, until it becomes more measurable, that’s the way it will stay.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Aug 2, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

poor advanced fielding numbers or not

I can’t imagine anyone here has any complaints with FF’s rookie season

Spring Training is the greatest thing that can't end soon enough

by JKowalek on Aug 2, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did

Gonzo even hit a HR that whole month?

by Erihury on Aug 2, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

7/16 against the Nationals

by ducheneaux13 on Aug 2, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol, the one game that series that we lost

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hadn’t realized Hinske was killing it like that in July. Even more reason to ditch Freddi’s new speedy outfield and use Hinske in LF instead of Costanza.

I’m ready to see Pastornicky (or Infante should Wren manage to trade for him) at shortstop in Atlanta.

by redwards95 on Aug 2, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

if he doesn’t struggle, what do you do in the playoffs then?

by nuftjedi on Aug 2, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he doesn’t struggle…..? You win.

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he means in regards to the rule

that a player must be on the roster no later than august 31 to be on playoff roster, so if he does do well, we would have to go back to Gonzalez at SS for playoffs or phantom injury him

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no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
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by abraves257 on Aug 2, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s two 60-Day DL guys. As long as he can find a spot on the 40-man sometime in September, I think he should be able to substitute in. Don’t quote me on that, though…

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Aug 2, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be eligible for a team’s playoff roster a player must be on any of the following: (a) the 25 man active roster, (b) the disabled list, © the bereavement list, or (d) the suspended list as of August 31 at midnight[citation needed]. The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team’s 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position (i.e. position player for position player, or pitcher for pitcher), with the approval of the commissioner of baseball.

neither 60day guy is a SS. so he either needs to be on the roster on 8/31 or someone would need to be hurt. again this is all assuming he comes up in September and doesn’t struggle.

by nuftjedi on Aug 2, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is a stretch

Since he was having a fairly unexceptional season at AA. He’s been hot as hell at AAA, but he’s also been crazy lucky-no power at all to speak of, and he’s not walking as much as he’d need to.

My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.

by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

by Bronn on Aug 2, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I’m not really thinking it is an option. although even no power, but putting the ball in play would be a step up from Gonzalez most of the time.

by nuftjedi on Aug 2, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trading GG defense at short for very mediocre defense at short while gaining very little in offense would be a terrible idea.

by Fatvirus on Aug 2, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade for Infante and you’ve got solid D and decent offense. Better than none at all. And he could actually get hot. Get Prado and Infante hanging out again and good things will happen.

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re probably right. I’m sure that Infante would turn into Ozzie fucking Smith if he started “hanging out” with Prado.

by Fatvirus on Aug 2, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Those 3 years he was with us were pretty sweet, no? I mean, the guy was our MVP last year, imo.

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way. Baseball is played on paper, he is not doing well in Florida therefore won’t do well if we acquire him. Side note, everything i have commented on this story has been in reply to one of your comments.

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by abraves257 on Aug 2, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

…..haha, so is that good or bad?

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

just a mild trend I noticed, well until i replied down there

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Aug 2, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

the guy was our MVP last year

well, that’s insane.

Also, we’re talking about defense. You know that guys have to play the field in the NL, right? And you’re talking about replacing a guy who is an excellent fielder at one of the most important positions on the field with Omar Infante. Omar. At SS.

by Fatvirus on Aug 2, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonzalez has not been as good recently

maybe he is just getting old, or his offensive laziness has carried over to defense, but Infante was a very good defensive infielder for us the past few seasons

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Aug 2, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. That. Etc.

Gonzo’s D has been slipping. Yes, Fatvirus: Omar Infante. Omar. At SS.

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

While Omar would be a pretty big improvement at the plate (hell, my 3 year old could strike out on 3 pitches), he’s just not a good defensive SS.

I wouldn’t have minded Furcky being back in a Braves uniform. Speed and defense out of the 8 hole? Yes, please. But I think that bridge has been burned.

by Fatvirus on Aug 2, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you may underrate Infante’s D a tad. I’ve seen him at 3rd, 2nd, short, left, (possibly center), etc…

The point is, I never remember feeling that he was overwhelmed at any one of those positions.

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I remember reading somewhere that Omar wanted to stay with the Marlins past this season. Not sure if the feeling is mutual for Marlins

Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.

by award6 on Aug 2, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The feeling is never mutual with the Marlins, unless your name is Hanley.

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Infante's infield defense is fine.

His outfield defense; both from memory and metrics, is pretty bad. He just really isn’t an OF.

by cavebird on Aug 2, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

God, Alex Gonzalez is terrible

What’s amazing is that his job isn’t even in jeopardy. He’s not going to be benched, we’re not going to trade for anyone, we just want him for his glove and don’t care about the fact that he can’t hit.

My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.

by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

by Bronn on Aug 2, 2011 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

If it was anyone otehr than Frank Wren I would agree with you.

There are already rumors out there of other trade talks going on…

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

From a strictly emotional standpoint

Watching Gonzalez the last two months reminds me a lot like watching Francoeur during his slide. You really, really want to be proven wrong, that the next AB will be that big hit, but it just never comes, and you’re left with this frustrating, defeated feeling, and then you just kind of get upset that the team keeps trotting him out.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Aug 2, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great comparison.

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing is

He’s not even elite, defensively, which might make it bearable. He’s solid, above average even. He’s not Alcides Escobar or Troy Tulowitzki or Alexei Ramirez.

My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.

by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

by Bronn on Aug 2, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

One can argue with the naked eye...

…but by UZR, he is right up there with the group you mention, all in the 6-7 UZR/150 range. And personally, I think he looks that good, too. Obviously, defensive metrics are not perfect and the eyeball test, well, its flaws speak (or see?) for themselves.

by cavebird on Aug 2, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

the dude is worth 1 WAR over the course of a season. He has been exactly what a sane person would have predicted him to be. I don’t understnad the problem. We knew what Alex Gonzalez is, he is a guy who can’t get on base more than 30% of the time, but has solid power (mostly doubles, and some dingerz), and most importantly he will play above average defense, and depending on your perspective, maybe elite defense.

If it was a shock that GOnzalez all the sudden sucked offensively then I could understand the issues with his play, but that’s just not the case… he isnt hitting great… but he still runs the bases well and plays good defense and that why we have him and are only paying him $2.75M

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by Swo12bv on Aug 2, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent synopsis.

This is pretty much what we should have expected when we got him. He happened to be on a power tear at the time but has settled into norms for him.

by blairblink on Aug 3, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

BTW

The Freddie Freeman gif is awesome. I keep watching it.

My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.

by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

by Bronn on Aug 2, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Reminds me of the Hinske one

vs FLA where the pitcher loses his hat. over and over again.

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-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Aug 2, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Erik Bedard

….. as the Dramatic Chipmunk

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by BraveSaluki on Aug 2, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

Love the 6 second pause before Bedard mouths “wow”

Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.

by award6 on Aug 2, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was about to comment that the gif is worth the price of admission.

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by TheLetter2 on Aug 2, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's very sad

When I would rather see Julio Lugo out there than our starting shortstop

by duxfan29 on Aug 2, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

The sad thing is

Julio Lugo is even worse. And he’s just as bad as Diory Hernandez, who might be only slightly better than Brandon Hicks. Our options at SS universally suck.

My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.

by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

by Bronn on Aug 2, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank god for pastornicky

You wanna get high? Don't forget to bring a towel!

by CoxXx on Aug 2, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The irony being nobody was even remotely worried about shortstop in 09, as recently as 10.

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

funny how that works

Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.

by award6 on Aug 2, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

hilarious

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Aug 2, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had no idea

Kimbrel’s numbers were that amazing in july. This guy is Sick-Nasty from the hill

We Gone Get it Up!!!

by geapsquash on Aug 2, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Erik Bedard would agree or disagree...

with the popular prospect guru sentiment that Freddie Freeman lacks power?

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Aug 2, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

we may get a 15 HR season out of him when he matures...

but if he ever gets to 20 HR in a single season, we should feel lucky.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Aug 2, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

seabass isnt hitting .208 and hasnt been at any point this year past maybe the first couple of games

You can bash him all you want, and you can say it’s still so low it doesnt matter but don’t falsely shave 20+ points off the guy’s average, doesnt make you look terribly credible.

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by 15ks on Aug 2, 2011 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Baseball Reference is generally pretty credible

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Aug 2, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOM, ROASTED!

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by Swo12bv on Aug 2, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

you wrote:

“In 109 plate appearances, A-Gon actually improved his batting average this past month, but still to only just .208. Overall it’s .208/.229/.264 (.494 OPS).”

You write “In 109 plate appearances”. Thanks to your handy little visual there, we can see that in July Seabass had exactly 109 plate appearances. So the sentence you wrote can only mean that you are expressing your belief that he raised his average to .208 for the season. It wouldn’t make any sense for you to be saying over the entire month he raised his average for said month to .208.

Just to be thoroughly redundant; you say “Overall it’s .208/….” Again by using “overall” its very clear you meant to say at the conclusion of July his season average is .208, which it is not, and has not been so poor since April 8th.

Its either startlingly poorly written, or you got this one wrong. Im not here to be the grammar nazi, its the internet, and there are surely numerous minor errors in this reply. I simply wanted to explain that i replied originally because the post as you wrote it regarding Alex Gonzalez is misleading.

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by 15ks on Aug 3, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Keep backtracking, it amuses me

Overall states his slash, like I provide for any hitter I analyze, and have been doing for every month.

Thanks to my handy little visual, every single aspect of my quoted quote is validated, from the improvement from .176 to .208, the confirmation of 109 plate appearances, and the accurately stated slash of .208/.229/.264. I’m not sure why you’re even bothering to argue this, aside from backtracking at your obvious defeat, because you either come off looking like an petty grammar nazi, or someone who simply failed to grasp this entire article.

Just admit that you failed to read correctly and acted on your track record of having a vendetta against us blog lords and thought you got one up on me, and we can move on amicably.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Aug 3, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

He had a higher average in July(.208) than he did in June(.168), but he didn’t raise his average from .168 to anything because he wasn’t hitting .168 due to an outstanding performance in May. I didn’t fail to read correctly, you failed to write using the current accepted conventions of the English language. Again, it’s really not a big deal, I just wanted to point out that his level of play over the course of the season has not been as bad as a lot of people would like to imply. The only “vendetta” I have on this blog is against the author who went menstrual, threw a fit, and quit on the team in a front page story he wrote during a playoff race where we ended up getting in. And I believe you’ll notice(since you have the time to check all my posts) this is the first reference I’ve made to it in several months since I was told in official capacity that i can’t be critical of quitters being welcomed back with open arms and held in high esteem.

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by 15ks on Aug 6, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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