Braves Quote For The Day ... Four Horsemen Catching On
by gondeee on Aug 19, 2011 1:21 PM EDT
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The Main Stream Media is catching on to the term Four Horsemen, for the Braves great young arms. Tom Verducci at SI.com pens this statement:
Give GM Frank Wren credit. He shopped for Carlos Beltran but balked at giving up any of his Four Horsemen: Minor, Teheran, Vizcaino and Delgado. He wound up with a better fit -- Bourn -- who the Braves also control for next season, without yielding his top prospects.
Of course, to be truly accurate, The Verdooch needs to use the full name: The Four Horsemen of the Pichpocalypse. You're only half way to blog-level-cool, Tom.
By the way, the three Horsemen who pitched during the Giants series -- Randall Delgado, Arodys Vizcaino, and Mike Minor -- posted a combined line of 14 innings, 6 hits, 1 run, 3 walks, and 13 strikeouts, collecting two of the three wins in the series. As Chipper said, it's almost embarrassing how much talent keeps coming up through the Braves system.
This is the kind of embarrassment I enjoy.
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Nothing wrong with "Four Horseman" part...
It’s the “of the Pitchpocalypse” that sounds like you’re 11 year-old fanboys.
There actually is something wrong with "Four Horseman."
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Yes, though I’ll stubbornly stick with ‘PitChopalypse’.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
Wonder if we'll be here for the acopalypse?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
If you have to go beyond Four Horseman....
they should be of the “K-pocalypse”
and of course any time you mention the Four Horsemen you have to go ……
WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Col.Angus may be rough, Col.Angus may not smell like a bed of roses, but deep down Col.Angus is very sweet. If I overstay my welcome, just tap me on the head!!
I like this
Both ideas.
"I'm feelin' pretty good...I'm not scared, at all...I'm feelin'...feelin' kinda invincible!" - Jack Burton
Yep.
Love the fact that we have 9 possible starters
Lowe
Hudson
Hanson
Jurrjens
Beachy
Minor
Teheran
Delgado
Medlen
all under team control through next year.
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
I would love it more if Lowe wasn’t part of that group next year.
by ducheneaux13 on Aug 19, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
But assuming Meds goes to the pen, we still have 5 openings for 8 men. Say we get rid of Lowe, we would still have two pro ready guys in Gwinnett.
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
Those 2 extra pro-ready arms would be nice trading chips in the off season.
by aaaaandTheBravesWin on Aug 19, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont know why we just assume meds goes to the bullpen
actually i do, we do it because it would make things easier, but if we are honest with ourselves, the guy is deserving of a rotation spot. We won almost all of his starts, his minor league numbers are ridiculous, and his stuff is still rockin at the major league level.
Say he goes to the pen, he will be getting the spot starts, not a minor leaguer, and he will be forcing his way back into a starting rotation.
We assume that because he couldn't make it through 1 full season as a starter before TJS
His numbers also weren’t great as a starter and because he only has 2 good pitches, he got rocked his third time through lineups. He’s better as a reliever than as a starter, it lessens the injury worries, and we don’t have to give him time to build his arm stamina backup. I just don’t see the point in moving Medlen back to the rotation at this point.
Medlen wasn't bad as a starter
But you’re right, he was a much better reliever in 2010, especially when it came down to line drive rates and HR/Fly Ball rates (drastic differences). Medlen as the long man makes C-Mart expendable as well (or another AAA starting option).
I imagine JJ will be the piece dangled for either another top-notch middle reliever or for a SS during the off season. I hate to see him go but he’s in the “sell high!” position and he can easily be replaced with Teheran, a man with a bigger future ahead. I hope we dump Lowe and most (or all!) of his salary for a bundle of baseball bats. He can easily be replaced with Minor or Delgado…which is probably an upgrade anyway. Things are looking damn good.
by crimsonqueen9 on Aug 19, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
Its nice to see someone who doesn’t take it as an insult to Medlen that he probably shouldn’t be a starter. Medlen has the stuff to a great reliever as opposed to just an above average starter, and we have plenty of average of better options for the rotation anyway.
Mostly agree with your second paragraph though I wouldn’t consider dealing JJ for a RP. Maybe as a second or third piece, but if I’m moving him I want either a good SS or a good RH option for the OF.
I would love it more if Lowe wasn’t part of that group next year.
Lowe is the Jeff Jarrett of this team.
No, that is not a compliment and yes, I know too much about NWA/WCW history for my own damn good.
"I'm feelin' pretty good...I'm not scared, at all...I'm feelin'...feelin' kinda invincible!" - Jack Burton
It's a shame...
but a guy like Todd Redmond will probably get Rule 5’d because of the staggering Big League and Minor League depth…
He could have been Rule 5’ed last year, if I’m not mistaken. However, he’s also gotta be coming up on minor league FA soon as well.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I believe he hits it this offseason
It takes 7 years and he’s finishing up his 7th season. There may be some way around it, but I think it would take guaranteeing him the MLB minimum which probably isn’t happening.
No.
4 years after you sign if 18 or over, 5 years if you’re under 18.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
My bad...
19 or older, 4 years. 18 and younger, 5 years. Had the cutoff at 18 instead of 19.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
That's for rule 5 draft eligibility
That’s not the same as minor league free agency
Ah...
I thought you were talking Rule V. My mistake.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Oh I guess you thought I meant he's about to hit rule 5 eligibility
I meant he had reached the number of years to become a minor league free agent
I like how we replaced the Acostalypse and Aproctalypse with this.
by Ivan the Great on Aug 19, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
2011 Braves rookie pitchers combined numbers
- Average age: 23
- 273 IP (24% of total Braves IP)
- K/9: 10.45
- BB/9: 3.49
- K/BB: 2.99
- ERA: 3.66
- FIP: 2.87
[Beachy, Minor, Kimbrel, Gearrin, Ascencio, Varvaro, Terehan, Vizcaino]
what about
Delgado
the exponent in the equation is a matter of preference and "fit" it can vary depending on what the user believes to yield the curve that best predicts a team’s ability to win games.
by Ivan the Great on May 20, 2011 12:31 PM VET
The four llamas of the Pitchacallamacopalypse
Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
by ATLandUNC on Aug 19, 2011 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
DOMO!!!!!!!
"So he basically called me a Jew. I was confused because I'm black and Methodist."
by rocket8188 on Aug 19, 2011 3:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mark it down here. They trade lowe for nothing and Jurrjens for a left Fielder.
"So he basically called me a Jew. I was confused because I'm black and Methodist."
by rocket8188 on Aug 19, 2011 3:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I’m all for trading Lowe for a box of big league bubblegum and sunflower seeds.
I also see Jurrjens being moved at some point after this season and the next trade deadline.
And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Wandy hit the waiver wire today...
…and I’m sorry, but Derek has GOT to be a better deal than that for somebody out there: proven track record, veteran presence, and only one year left on his deal instead of the 2 for Rodriguez.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
I would take Wandy over Lowe.
You can’t really dismiss what they have done this year and Wandy has been doing it on one of the worst teams in baseball history
by Texastriplecrown on Aug 19, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Marked.
"One thing I’ve learned as a Phillies fan is that a lot of people hate our team and its fans."-commenter on The Good Phight
by Chipper Pwns on Aug 20, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
In Braves country, a few bad starts means you get traded. Yeeeehhhhaaaawwww!
by michaeldlee1480 on Aug 19, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
I think the proper descriptive for this picture is “$100 MM per season and growing in long-term non-team friendly contracts that also cost us most of our best prospects”…
Haha, I’ll give you the contracts part. I don’t know how much we’re missing those prospects though. Anyway, all in good fun
by FanSince1993 on Aug 19, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. Happ and Drabek were given up in the Halladay and Oswalt deals, decent prospects but worth giving up. Forgive me, but i think the $100MM also includes the $9MM being paid out to Joe Blanton…
indeed
A full season of our four at the MLB level only costs what Lee makes in a fuckin month.
N o t K i d d i n g
by crimsonqueen9 on Aug 19, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He earned his monthly pay
in June and so far in August
"You come at the king, you best not miss."
by a hooter's baby on Aug 19, 2011 6:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t know, Oswalt looks like he’s raging a little bit. Maybe it’s just a bulging disk.
by FanSince1993 on Aug 19, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
That's
Unpleasant
"I'm feelin' pretty good...I'm not scared, at all...I'm feelin'...feelin' kinda invincible!" - Jack Burton
So I went over to AZ Snake Pit and found this:
"It's not about me, it's about the team." - Martin Prado
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
I just can’t win on this site, can I?
"It's not about me, it's about the team." - Martin Prado
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Aug 19, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re just lucky the Braves play well whenever you have the recap. The TC faithful can turn on you quickly if you turn into a Kawakami.
"It's not about me, it's about the team." - Martin Prado
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Aug 19, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
But as I recall, you went rogue.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
okay. you got me.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
May be. He’s set up to post on 11 other teams’ blogs, plus 3 more SB Nation baseball sites.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
Haha, I think he jumps around on the blog of whoever the Braves are playing against and hangs out there until they finish up the series.
"One thing I’ve learned as a Phillies fan is that a lot of people hate our team and its fans."-commenter on The Good Phight
by Chipper Pwns on Aug 20, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Gag me with a keyboard - Must. Stop. Him.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
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