Who is your most likely August trade candidate?
- Wandy Rodriguez
- Josh Willingham
- Carlos Pena
- Kerry Wood
- Brian Fuentes
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We know that guys will still move in August
Which of the above (or someone not even mentioned) are moved to contenders in August?
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by ChopMaster on Jul 7, 2011 10:24 PM CDT (joined Jul 19, 2010)
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Gotta be the human trade rumor.
Heath Bell, that is. Surely he’s eventually going to be traded, right?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
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by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
I can't see that
He’s way too attractive to make it through waivers, and I could see some non-contenders putting in a claim in order to get the picks, at which point, the Padres would just pull him back.
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by ChopMaster on Jul 7, 2011 10:24 PM CDT (joined Jul 19, 2010)
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by biggentleben on Jul 31, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably Willingham or Pena.
Rodriguez is only making $7M this year and has been pretty good. He’s also under contract for 2 more years. Seems like he would be hard to get through.
Pena would be the most likely. He’s making a lot of money, still has about $4M left this year. He’s also been pretty bad. But if he got hot for a few weeks he could look attractive.
One guy that’s not mentioned that could also be moved is Adam Dunn. First year of a 4 year $56M deal and has been awful for the White Sox. If they fall further out of contention he could be moved similar to Rios with the Blue Jays a few years ago when the White Sox gave up nothing and took on his entire salary.
Not Pena
Cubs kept him for a reason, what that reason is, is merely speculation. He will not be dealt I’m assuming, he would already have been if he was going to leave the Cubs this year.
Willingham, is a possibility, what Oakland’s Gm was hoping for in respective trades for his players was several times called “ridiculous” maybe he wakes up.
Wood is staying put to be simply put
I do not know enough about the Fuentes situation to even comment, so there ya go
Most likely for me is Wandy Rod., with that hefty contract I doubt any bottom dwellers would be grabbing it. More a process of elimination, but just my thoughts.
We could always see a player fall out of favor with it’s team, and of course we will see more options later on, I just hope they are a little more attractive than this list.
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by chicagobullies on Jul 31, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This is typical of August, though
Everyone goes through waivers, typically, but rarely is there a big trade chip truly moved at that time. I would imagine Dunn would be passed through and make it through, but I could see Wandy claimed by someone. 3/36 for the next three years for a lefty at his level of ability is not a terrible contract at all.
The biggest issue the A’s had moving Willingham is that the majority of the teams in on him were after him to play outfield, and his recent injury kept him in the DH role basically up to the deadline, so teams wanted to buy extremely low as it was a major gamble for them that he could handle outfield as soon as he was acquired.
Pena likely just didn’t get a great offer. It sounds like the Cubs demanded quite a bit for their guys, which is why with a number of movable pieces (Pena, Wood, Dempster, Zambrano, Soriano-if they ate some salary, Marshall, Reed Johnson), they only moved Fukudome. One report I read stated that the Cubs called contenders stating the guys on the list above were available, but that their asking price indicated that they were trying to create a “top 5 system” by trading away those pieces, which they’re just not going to bring. I’d say if you walk away from the table after moving every one of those guys with two top-75 prospects, you’ve done very well. The Cubs have the dichotomy of needing to keep “names” to please their fans, but needing to shed salary and bad contracts to get after young players that can impact their club’s future in free agency.
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by ChopMaster on Jul 7, 2011 10:24 PM CDT (joined Jul 19, 2010)
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From a Braves perspective...
SS and RH relief. Not sure how much of either depending on Pastornicky, Vizcaino, etc.
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I vote for Willingham
… since I don’t believe he’ll clear waivers. Wandy almost certainly will.
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I don't know
MLB Network did a show of the Wandy’s average stats over the last 3 years and the average stats of lefties that signed as free agents. Basically, Cliff Lee was the only one with better stats, and his contract fell toward the bottom of the middle of the pack. Ted Lilly, while older and with stats that aren’t as good, got a bigger deal just last season. I’m so going to teach my son to throw left-handed someday. There’s a good bet that teams in the AL may claim him to prevent him getting to the Yankees, and a few of them may make the deal once the claim is put in.
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by ChopMaster on Jul 7, 2011 10:24 PM CDT (joined Jul 19, 2010)
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*Wandy’s contract fell toward the bottom of the middle of the back. Sorry if that was unclear.
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by ChopMaster on Jul 7, 2011 10:24 PM CDT (joined Jul 19, 2010)
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Yeah my bet is Wandy gets clained
I doubt there is anyway he goes all the way through, impossinle IMM.
Some of the lower level teams could put in a bid on him, but if they don’t one of the higher teams most def. will (late injuries almost always occur and add-in new plans teams never thought they wld have 2 execute.)
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by chicagobullies on Aug 2, 2011 1:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No way the Yankees would let him get past
although I doubt he’d ever make it that far before being claimed.
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Wouldn't an NL team that could use good starting pitching take first dibs?
He’d be a good fit for the Pirates, and Arizona would definitely want him. I don’t think he’d make it to AL teams.
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I'm not sure
…that either of them want to flat out claim him because they could be on the hook for the whole salary if Houston chose to let him just go rather than being able to negotiate Houston paying something for a better prospect to be included.
The other thing is that Houston has proved to be looking for quantity of prospects, and neither Arizona or Pittsburgh really has a lot of quantity to distribute, they’re both more quality over quantity organizations at the time being because of the youth of their major league teams.
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by ChopMaster on Jul 7, 2011 10:24 PM CDT (joined Jul 19, 2010)
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Why wouldn't they?
It’s not like either is the Braves with an abundance of starting options. Both would likely need a quality starter next year too, so Wandy makes sense for them both short and long term (if they’d let him walk).
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They may want him, but I'm not sure they'd want that salary.
Both are building with small salary teams for now.
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by ChopMaster on Jul 7, 2011 10:24 PM CDT (joined Jul 19, 2010)
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Depends
The Diamondbacks have Kelly Johnson as a free agent and Miguel Montero, Ian Kennedy, Ryan Roberts, and Joe Saunders arbitration eligible for 2012, all of whom they’d likely want to retain. That may not leave a lot of salary to be tied into a pitcher at Wandy’s salary level.
The Pirates just don’t make sense at all. They haven’t had a payroll above $55M in a decade, they’re at $42 now, and they have a huge list of arbitration eligible guys for 2012: Joel Hanrahan, Jeff Karstens, Ross Ohlendorf, Jose Veras, Evan Meek, Garret Jones, Andrew McCutchen, and Charlie Morton, along with Paul Maholm’s option to be picked up and Ronny Cedeno’s option. They’re going to be well over $50M just with those, and there’s been no indication that they’ll be allowed to up the payroll.
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by ChopMaster on Jul 7, 2011 10:24 PM CDT (joined Jul 19, 2010)
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I just think both of those could fit his salary...
which isn’t small, but it’s not Lowe’s $15m or some $20m monster, it’s relatively small for a pitcher of his caliber, if it gives them a veteran, reliable starter that both have lacked, for the Pirates since Doug Drabek maybe, and for the DBacks since Haren was dealt, Webb got hurt, or otherwise Johnson and Schilling. Basically a solid, guaranteed front of the rotation guy is something both have lacked significantly, and while not cheap, I don’t think Wandy’s price tag is that inhibitive, especially considering what it’d cost to add a similar arm in free agency with neither org having that caliber arm near ready (they may have those caliber arms, especially the Pirates, but they are low minors and won’t be impact starters this year, 2012, or probably not even 2013).
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Do the Colangelo's still own the DBacks?
they haven’t been shy in the past about spending big money, so I wouldn’t expect them to be in the future. They’ve rebuilt of late and it hasn’t really worked well, so I’d think they’d have no problem spending on Wandy. The Pirates maybe, but then they’ve lacked a starter like him for so long, and are so close, I doubt they’d pass him up. I don’t think Houston would let him walk to Pitt and would ask for a decent price (although judging Wade it’d be scraps, and they could convince him to send money too).
So you factor that in too, yes they might not wanna spend, but Wade has shown a desire to send cash along with his quality pieces in returns for middling prospects.
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