Dan Uggla Homers In Second Straight Game To Help Atlanta Beat Florida 5-1
by SCrebel10 on Jul 30, 2011 10:04 PM EDT
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Atlanta got seven very good innings from Tim Hudson and offensive support from Dan Uggla in the form of a three-run homer to beat Florida 5-1.
The Braves got the scoring started in the third inning against Marlins starter Anibal Sanchez. Alex Gonzalez led off the inning with a single and advanced to third thanks to a sacrifice bunt from Tim Hudson and a groundout from Jose Constanza.
A two-out Martin Prado single scored Gonzalez to make it a 1-0 game in favor of Atlanta. Freddie Freeman singled to put runners on first and second for Uggla, who launched a first pitcher slider from Sanchez into the left field seats for his second three-run homer in as many games to give Atlanta a 4-0 lead.
Sanchez left after giving up eight hits and four runs (earned) while walking one and striking out five in five innings.
Florida got their only run of the game off Hudson in the sixth inning. Emilio Bonifacio doubled with two outs and scored on a single from Omar Infante to cut the Marlin deficit to 4-1.
Hudson finished with a line of 7 IP, 6 H, 1 R (earned), 0 BB, 5 K.
Reliever Jonny Venters found himself in a bases loaded, two-out jam in the mound in the bottom of the eighth, but struck out Hanley Ramirez to escape the jam.
Left-hander Randy Choate entered to pitch the top of the ninth for Florida. Choate entered the game sporting a .117 batting average against left-handed hitters, but that wasn't enough to stop Eric Hinske, who crushed a home run to right to up the Braves lead to 5-1.
Even though it wasn't a save situation, Craig Kimbrel pitched a scoreless ninth inning to close out the game, including a strikeout of Mike Stanton.
Atlanta goes for the sweep tomorrow afternoon at 1:35 PM EDT.
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That was a lot of fun. Break the brooms out.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
Need 1 more for the Sweep tomorrow :-)
CONGRATULATIONS to Hinske on RBI #500! with that homer.
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Thanks!
That third check is the best.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
Like I said earlier
patience young padawan
Game summary, as based entirely on the three seconds I took to read the summary
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gotta be more specific kiddo haha
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no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
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Let's hope Wren doesn't get as hammered tonight
as he did this time last year so he can wake up in the morning and get us a legit player this year
Still needs to cut down on the strikeouts a little
The .356 BABIP isn’t going to hold up forever.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
In 2010 .340 was the 90th percentile in the MLB...
What percentile exactly is “super-ridiculous?”
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And Freeman isn't even a speed guy.
I’m not going to say Freeman is going to crash down-Josh Hamilton, for example, has a career .341 BABIP, and isn’t an elite speedster. But Freeman is freakin’ slow, so it definitely will drop.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
.356 also 15th in the MLB right now...
If I counted that right. And yeah, if what I’ve learned about speed and BABIP is true Freeman’s is definitely a little frightening.
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I no longer think Freeman is slow
although I used to think so. He has a peculiar running style, which makes him look slow. This could even be considered deceptive, although not intentional on his part. So I am paying attention to what the results are, and they indicate that Freeman is not slow.
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by BravesFaninAZ on Jul 31, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
He gets infield hits less often than Chipper Jones
:-/
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I agree
He runs sort of like Ray Bolger In The Wizard of Oz, but he tends to get there okay.
"You feel really comfortable with Scotty Proctor in that situation to handle those guys." - Fredi Gonzalez
Good thing we don't have to make these decisions right now
Especially in the heat of moment, since we still have Jair Jurrjens.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
i have i feeling im gonna wake up to this....
#Braves to acquire Melky Cabrera for 2 PTBNL
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by Ivan the Great on May 20, 2011 12:31 PM VET
Might even follow the news that the Nationals have acquire Denard Span
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
omg noo hahaha!
i have a feelin i will wakeup to braves getting MB
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by radamez85 on Jul 30, 2011 10:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Milton Bradley....?
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by Ivan the Great on May 20, 2011 12:31 PM VET
For some odd reason,instead of Michael Bourn,
Milton Bradley was the 1st name that popped into my head as well. Odd
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by chicagobullies on Jul 30, 2011 10:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I definitely thought marlon byrd
by joshmaurer on Jul 30, 2011 11:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wouldn't need to give up any prospects for Bradley
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Okay, quick thought
6:08pm: The Twins are insisting on acquiring Storen with Bernadina and minor league infielder Stephen Lombardozzi for Span, according to Jim Bowden of ESPN.com (on Twitter).
If we had to give up Kimbrel, Schafer, and, like Pastornicky for Span, would you do it?
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
No?
That actually sounds fairly reasonable to me. But heck, I bet we could do better. Probably could make it like EOF and Schafer, and someone lesser than Pastornicky. EOF is better than Storen.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
can't trade anyone
on the DL (schafer)
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by CharlestonSC on Jul 30, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
wrong
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
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no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
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absolutely
but the pen would take a hit losing Kimbrel. who would replace him?
Why?
Kimbrel is a top 3 closer. Schafer may have a nice career and Pastornicky is AGON replacement. It would be a horrible deal for us.
Kimbrel>>>>Storen
Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
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Because we're giving up a reliever, a struggling CFer, and a guy who might top out as a utility player
For a good young CFer on a long term controllable prospect. I think that’s a pretty even deal. And I think we could get him for even less…so I’m wondering why the Braves aren’t talking more about this deal.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I mean, if that's what the Twins are asking for
Braves can blow that deal out of the water without even trying. So we should at least be discussing this guy.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Span is not nearly “special” enough to be worth all that.
Schafer could easily be as valuable or more in the near future.
Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
I don't think I would say "easily"
I mean, as a rookie, Span had a .387 OBP. Schafer is not even in the same league, and he’s a little bit older than Span was.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I guess what I've learned from this thought experiment
Is that sometimes guys tend to overrate their own players.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Especially when they have a man-crush on said player
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish we valued OBP more as a fanbase and as an organization
Clearly we don’t, since we’re batting Constanza lead-off, but still. I wish.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Well, when a player is as fast as Constanza is, you feel like he is going to get on base more.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you see him go first to third last night?
That’s better than any numbers.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I did! I immediately thought “Leadoff man of the future!!!”
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope he picks it up soon
eight at-bats, one hit. Obviously too small a sample, but…
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by BravesFaninAZ on Jul 31, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
this
it shouldn’t be that hard to figure out.
Span has been a 2-4 WAR player without homers or a lot of steals. He’s solid and plays good D, but he’s not worth trading the best young closer in the league (from a depleted bullpen), and our future SS.
Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
Span is Bourn with about 40-50 less steals. He’s a guy you’re happy if you develop, but you don’t give up good players to trade for.
Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
lol @ depleted
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Have you been watching this season? We are driving 3 guys into the ground because we don’t have better options. Without Kimbrel it would be ?? – EOF – Venters. And on the days EOF and Venters are tired it would be a disaster.
Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
We don't have better options than 3 of the best relievers int he NL
Weird of you to put it that way.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
*facepalm
Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
You're making a ridiculous argument, I just want to let you know
A manager’s crappy bullpen usage shouldn’t make you decide that our bullpen is bad.
George Sherrill, Scott Linebrink, and Cristhian Martinez have all been very solid bullpen options for us this season. For a 4th, 5th, and 6th option, that’s really good.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I agree.
A lot of people seem to think that the bullpen is weak and we need help… while really we just need to manage it properly and bring up someone for Proctor to fill the dead weight.
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That’s why everyone disagrees with you. Ok then.
Everyone with a clue knows our bullpen is overworked and giving away our most dominant pitcher is a dumb idea. Its why we’re looking FOR a reliever, not to dump our closer
Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
yea
our bullpen is overworked because of usage, not because of lack of ability (Proctor doesn’t count)
Proctor is an anomaly
Somehow, between the manager and GM, we should have managed to make sure he never gets used, ever. Instead, he comes in during the 9th or 10th inning in a tie game when we still have other options.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
But he was getting used before Gearrin and Linebrink
It’s insanity
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Yeah but that's ALL we have
our BP is VERY top heavy. Three of the best relievers at the top, then a LOOGY, a mediocre RHP, a long reliever, and the worst pitcher in baseball.
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, we need to get rid of Proctor
But he should be DFA’d to begin with. Gearrin/Varvaro/#rallygirl are all better options, and the fact that we continue to use Proctor and keep him around shouldn’t really count against our overall dpeth.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Proctor makes a good mopup guy, at least...
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
by GouldisGold on Jul 30, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really
It’s not like he can throw a long time. Someone who’s been a starter somewhat more recently and can throw 2-3 innings at need would make a much better mop-up option.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I agree but
Having a really crappy pitcher in the bullpen isn’t as bad as people make it out to be. The worst pitcher in the ‘pen can be used when the game is out of control. That way you won’t have to worry about using your best relievers in those situations.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
by GouldisGold on Jul 30, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course, sometimes you get stuck with the fact that you have a crappy pitcher in the bullpen
And, you know, you might want to NOT have to use one of your top three arms, or the game might go into extra innings. It’s probably better to never have someone who might somehow be useful rather than someone you never want to hand the ball to in a meaningful game.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I agree with this
we don’t have a lot of bullpen depth
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He has been worth 2.6 WAR in 56 games. His defense is very good but he isn’t bad offensively and much better than the options we have in for CF. Not to mention his contract is super cheap.
Not saying he’s bad, saying the mentioned package is crazy, at least for our team.
We’d get a middle decent CF while giving away the best closer in the league and our only immediate hope for an upgrade at SS.
Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
Kimbrel is one of the best closers in baseball. He’s also controllable for 5 more years.
Span is a good player not worth Kimbrel alone. We finally get a good closer that could be here awhile and people want to trade him.
Not no, but HeLL No
A premiere young closer, fringe SS/2B prospect, and a younger version of Span, for Span I think not
For Span all I would give is maybe JJ Hoover or Paul Clemens and Schafer. (if he was not on the DL)
Do not undervalue Kimbrel because he is a closer. One could argue he has the most trade value out of any closer in the league. (Cost control, age, his domination thus far)
Span’s value is not that high, he is an average, at best, CF’er. All-around he does posess decent abilities, except his less than average power, well more like no power. Also, off the top of my head, he seems to be often found on the DL, another negative.
A guy like Span can easily seem like a better than average CF’er to many Braves’ fans; due to the fact, we continuously are forced to watch the Braves CF’ers
(Whom unfortuNATEly lol are possibly the worst group of Cf’ers in the league)
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by chicagobullies on Jul 30, 2011 11:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and a younger version of Span, for Span I think not
A guy like Span can easily seem like a better than average CF’er to many Braves’ fans; due to the fact, we continuously are forced to watch the Braves CF’ers
Cognitive dissonance
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by otisnixon'sparty on Jul 31, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
MLB Network seriously cut to the Yankees game to see the last out when they’re up 17-3.
“Let’s see if the Yankees can close this one out.”
What. The. Hell.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
This is what will happen
3-Way Trade:
Span to Nationals.
Ankiel to Braves.
Storen and Constanza to Twins.
Frank Wren after trade: We feel like we are going to make it an annual thing to acquire Rick Ankiel to move laterally at the CF position year after year.
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
We might as well bring the Rays in so we can get Farnsworth too.
by ducheneaux13 on Jul 30, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF...!
coco crisp to the braves i just saw on Twitter…. please let it be bullshit…
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by Ivan the Great on May 20, 2011 12:31 PM VET
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Ubaldo a Los Indios, Marquis a Arizona. Harden a Boston, Coco Crisp a Los Bravos, Doug Fister a Los Tigres. Seguiremos informando
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by Ivan the Great on May 20, 2011 12:31 PM VET
Thought Harden wasn’t confirmed yet… They can’t be keeping people THAT informed considering all the different parts of the day these transactions are from.
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I think you're full of shit.
Links or it didn’t happen.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
All I see...
are a bunch of spanish tweets about Crisp
Let me translate
NOOOOOOO!!!!
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jul 30, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He is the definition of mediocre
.266 .319 .383 .702
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He’d be a stopgap but the Braves would be counting Schafer way too much if this move is what they do. At least he is a CF but meh is definitely the word.
Braves don't need a stopgap....
they need a leadoff hitter like they ALWAYS had in the 14yr stretch of dominance
No they don’t, otherwise they wouldn’t be pressing for a CF so hard.
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They're not pressing THAT hard, it seems
They’re not in on Span, they’re low on the pecking order for Bourn, and they seem to be more interested in mediocre guys that won’t “block” Schafer, like Coco Crisp
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
They were low on the pecking order for Bourn...
It seems like they’ve moved up though.
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considering how tight lipped the braves are on this stuff, I don't think you can
say that they aren’t pressing that hard, or where they are on the pecking order for Bourn.
Well he's only going on what we've heard.
Which is all we have… but reports earlier today was that they weren’t near the top of the list.
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Exactly
we always had leadoff hitters who could 1) get on base, and 2) steal bases. Both. This argument about Schafer should not be taking place. His speed is great, but we need both attributes in our leadoff man. Period.
I have always liked Schafer, and have pulled for him, largely because of the simple fact that he is a Brave. That being said, if he is not getting the job done, we need to get somebody who can.
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by BravesFaninAZ on Jul 31, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Bourn to the Phillies for nothing because the Astros think theyre just a swell franchise
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You laugh, but...
it is sort of starting to look like the Kansas City A’s relationship to the Yankees.
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Did that Kansas City A’s really do that much damage in their 12 years of existence?
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Dan Uggla is a God. That is all.
NOW GO GET MICHAEL BOURN DAMMIT.
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Uggla handicapped himself early in the season just so he can make a comeback.
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BOURN OR BOSSMAN JR
HURRY UP FRANK, I’m tired of checking TC and twitter every 5 minutes
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jul 30, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Giants just got Orlando Hudson
Giants moves- 3
Phillies moves- 1
Braves moves- 0
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
No it was Orlando Cabrera
who is essentially Alex Gonzalez
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
In other words
this was probably a negative value trade
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the save.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
YES!!
Wil Nieves? This move puts us over the top! And for only $1! Gwinnett is going to the World Series!
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
New lineup
1. Bourn
2. Constanza
3. Schafer
4. Young
5. Ramirez
6. Pastornicky
7. Simmons
8. Salcedo
Everyone gets a random defensive position for the game and we rely on 10+ steals per game.
Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
steal-steal-steal-steal-steal, and then try and drive them in at the bottom of the order.
Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
LOL
good luck getting those guys on base
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
you're right OBP doesn't matter
what was I thinking
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Their OBP is basically the same as Prado and Freeman
.308, .368, same thing, right?
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
looks the same to me
but more importantly it just feels like Prado has been on base more than FF
It just feels like things are going to happen when Prado is on base
Things like getting caught stealing second, or getting throw at third base for the third out, usually, but at least he’s visibly doing stuff.
Randomly weird fact: Dan Uggla leads the Braves in runs scored. Mostly due to the fact that he leads in plate appearances, but it’s also strange because he’s been on base less than Freddie Freeman, Brian McCann, and only 7 times more than Chipper and 8 more than Prado. Weird, also, since he usually has crappy, crappy hitters behind him.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
It’s not so weird when you see him run. Dude gives it 100% every step of the way…unlike some SS that we have….
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard"
by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jul 30, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
What!?!?! Alex Gonzalez is 2/2 on stolen bases. Hard to argue with perfection.
Martin Prado is 4/11 on stolen bases.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I would rather see the first stat for one of our players than the second. Much rather. I just hate seeing CS. Seems like a wasted opportunity.
Lived in AZ when i signed on, but that was only for nine months. Had a southern mom, and lived in NC for many years, watching Braves on TBS. Live in Oregon now.
by BravesFaninAZ on Jul 31, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Bourn was seen putting on deoderant after the game
Giants are now the front runners.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
I heard he put his pants on left-leg first. Looks like the Astros are leaning towards Atlanta.
Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
BREAKING NEWS
Just dropped his phone in the toilet, anybody’s race now.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, wait,
Did he flush?
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Turns out they were jorts. Sounds like a better fit in Georgia than California or Pennsylvania. #southernfashion #Braves
by ducheneaux13 on Jul 31, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably wont find out until tomorrow afternoon
Frank Wren is probably asleep already
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Dodgers up 3-1.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Getting high-fives in the dugout
TRADE!!!!
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Now all we need are Pujols and Reyes...
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I can’t believe that people here would rather have Teheran than Kemp.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, you know, it's the bad attitude
He’s a clubhouse cancer. Who cares about a .421 wOBA when the guy doesn’t even golf with his teammates?
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Guys like that deserve to be sent to Canada!
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
DO IT, FRANK WREN!
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Know what's going to be really nice?
When tomorrow is finished with. Whoever the Braves acquire, I will be ecstatic to know that rosterbation will be cut by at least 33% across all baseball-related websites. No longer will I have to explain why trading your top 3 prospects for B.J. Upton isn’t a good idea…..
I can't wait to be done too
but I want to be satisfied when we’re finished, not lying there looking at the ceiling saying “Thats it?”
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
TWSS
Apologies for the intrusion, but shame on you all for seeing that just hanging out there waiting and doing nothing about.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Jul 30, 2011 11:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh snap, TWSS also.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Jul 30, 2011 11:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed on Upton.
Unless, of course, we’re talking about Kate.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
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by GouldisGold on Jul 30, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
boo boo...
searching for a tomato
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by Ivan the Great on May 20, 2011 12:31 PM VET
Uggla comes through again
What a great guy, quality character, good teammate, hard worker; I could not be happier for the man.
Regardless of his struggles, I couldn’t be happier we have him signed for the couple of years. He can/will/has set a great example for the upcoming rookies and younger guys in the org., and has shown them to never get too comfortable, always work hard, and to most importantly always have a great attitude and have fun.
Also, here’s to hoping we land the Bourn Supremacy tomorrow, to bolster this already great squad!
Great job by Venters, showing ppl why he is one of the top releif pitchers in the game. Even though he did not have his A or even B atuff, he kept at it, did not lose focus, kept his composure, and got out one of the better hitters in the game.
What a game! Also,final note haha, congrats goes out to Big Eric, for giving the Braves an extra run for support via his bomb (off a guy notoriously tough on lefties), and for his personal accomplishment he reached tonight!
Sometimes I wake up grumpy; other times I let her sleep.
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That pitch to end the inning was outstanding
Anytime you can make Hanley Ramirez look silly is a great moment.
by Undocorkscrew on Jul 30, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Not counting tonight
Uggla in July: .297 .379 .582 .961
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Giants making a push for Bourn
From Mitosis
Source confirms #SFGiants have interest in Michael Bourn, but not clear if talks are active. #Astros
by drumzalicious on Jul 30, 2011 11:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That would be ridiculous.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
good move by the Pirates
They acquired Derrek Lee for some Class A player
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Jul 30, 2011 11:22 PM EDT reply actions
23 year old in high A
Still like the deal for the Orioles though. Gave up nothing that it’s in their long term plans and got someone who might at least contribute some day.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
the Pirates filled their need and it was very cheap
The PuertoRican Kid
by Kobe:The Legend on Jul 30, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone just tweeted they were also in on Pujols. He went on to tweet we were interested in him as well.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
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erested in him as well.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
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by GouldisGold on Jul 30, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
erested in him as well
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
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by GouldisGold on Jul 30, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently the Astros want both Delgado AND Vizcaino for Bourn
And we don’t want to do that. Funny. Asked and got a lot less than that from the Phillies for Pence.
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 11:29 PM EDT reply actions
That makes no sense??
Why do they hate us?
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Ed Wade used to be the Phillies' GM, from 1998 to 2005
I’m guessing his hatred of Atlanta stems from that.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
And there it is...
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
MLBTradeRumors
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That's like, what they asked for for Pence from us
If I’m Frank Wren, Ed Wade is on my list of GMs I’d never deal with.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
If it’s only those two, we are dumb to NOT do it.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Time to start talking to the Twins
Their asking price for Span seems to be a lot lower AND he’s under team control for longer.
He’s also been a better hitter over his career than Bourn.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Aren't you a little worried about the concussion issues?
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by GouldisGold on Jul 30, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
A little
But, like, he’s already playing in minor league rehab games, so it’s not like he’s not going to be back this year.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I think it's pretty clear you like Span lol
"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard"
by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jul 30, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, I prefer him to Bourn
And since Marlon Byrd is being moved, for some reason, he’s probably the best CF option that’s being shopped. And the price tag is much, much more reasonable in comparison. An above average reliever, a below average CFer, and some kind of prospect that is fairly close to Major League ready is all that they want. We can give them that very easily.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
At this point, I wouldn’t say we can give up anything very easily.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I should say, we have a huge amount of surplus to meet their demands, and have been willing to part with several of the necessary pieces when looking at other players.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Right.
Just making passive aggressive comments towards Frank Wren.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
But seriously, here's how sad this is
Like, the big holdup for the Nationals getting Span seems to be that they won’t include Drew Storen in the deal. I can throw a rock into the Braves’ bullpen and hit a better pitcher than Drew Storen.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I just don't understand
why the Astros are trying to brutally rape us when they took a much smaller offer for Pence.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ed Wade used to be the GM of the Phillies
Just throwing it out there.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
All right, I'll just throw this out there
Jonathon Singleton was the #39 ranked BA prospect prior to the season.
Jarred Cosart was the #70 ranked BA prospect prior to the season.
That’s what they got for Pence.
What they want for Bourn is the #35 ranked preseason prospect and the #93 ranked preseason prospects.
Of course, things are a bit different right now. Both Phillie prospects have had decent, but not great, seasons in high A, while Vizcaino has been really good this year and Delgado has already made his MLB debut.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Props to Wren for that.
And the Astros have NOTHING against us, people, jeez. They know we have a good farm system.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
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by GouldisGold on Jul 30, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
MLBTR
The Braves refuse to include both Randall Delgado and Arodys Vizcaino in a deal for Bourn, according to ESPN.com’s Jim Bowden (on Twitter).
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Ed Wade is thinking
“The Rockies got two top 100 prospects for Jimenez (signed through 2014 for less money than remains on Derek Lowe’s deal), and both were pitchers…I should be able to do the same for a year and a half of Michael Bourn.”
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
So we should give them 2 better prospects(without question) for Bourn then
the Phillies just gave for Pence? I’m not joking Bud Selig should really investigate Ed Wade’s bank accounts. The Phillies have to be giving him kickbacks. I don’t think any of the big 4 should be involved. Maybe minor at most and a c level a ball prospect. Bourn isn’t that good
"Bourn isn’t that good"
You’re right… Only the most valuable CF in the MLB over the last three years…
Pretty average.
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I'd say that's a bit sketchy
Just because he’s got a TON more innings/plate appearances than Andrew McCutchen and Carlos Gonzalez, and I’m not sure how accurate WAR is because of the inclusion of UZR. It’s a bit awkward for me that Michael Bourn was a +20 CFer last year and is a -4 player so far this year. When a player derives a TON of value from his fielding, I’m just a bit iffy on his actual value.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I think we can agree that "isn't that good"
Is an underrating though.
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I stand by my statement. He's a good leadoff man with no power
Pitching is more valuable then a leadoff man. And a team like Houston that literally has none should realize that. A deal of Oberholtzer and Hoover would be a step in the right direction for them
But we're clearly willing to at least give more than that...
We’ll clearly give them at least Minor… So why shouldn’t they ask for at least him?
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I agree I would give Minor and a ball pitcher BUT
they are demanding Delgado and Vizcaino. Thats ABSURD
hmmm.
interesting. I will have to sleep on this
by drumzalicious on Jul 31, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
TWSS
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
i feel the same way
RT @gsuoumu If I get another Ankiel/Farnsy type trade I might just shoot Santa Claus. #Braves
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by Ivan the Great on May 20, 2011 12:31 PM VET
OT
Does anyone even watch the X games?
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by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:35 PM EDT reply actions
Nope.
I hate how ESPN doesn’t show REAL sports any more.
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by GouldisGold on Jul 30, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
The demographic its supposed to reach is either getting high, in jail, or in the hospital. Totally flop.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
There are televisions in hospitals, though.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
and in jail
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on how well behaved you are.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
As a former skater yes
I’m kind of an adrenaline junkie
"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard"
by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jul 30, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
Not all of it, but I do watch the skateboarding and some of the BMX stuff.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Hahahahaha
Starting to think Frank Wren is trying to use Jedi mind tricks to get trades. “You do not want any of our top prospects.” #Braves
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by Ivan the Great on May 20, 2011 12:31 PM VET
I like the "take it or leave it" mentality
But he’s definately being a little too clingy.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
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by GouldisGold on Jul 30, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree. If he was just refusing to give up one of those guys I would say he's being to clingy. However
two of our top 4 pitching prospects, plus whatever else they are asking for, is ridiculous.
OT #2
Katt Williams is hilarious
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
This whole discussion is OT, since this is the post game win thread.
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by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Your mom’s OT
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TWSS
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
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TWSS
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on Jul 31, 2011 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, you just reminded me how bad "Wild n Out" was
"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard"
by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jul 30, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Just the way he talks has me rolling on the floor.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I give up
If it couldn’t be done by now it probaly won’t happen. Bring on Ankiel. At least he can hit solo jacks in San Fran
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by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 11:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Many huge trades are announced right at the deadline, or even afterwards.
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by justincredubil02 on Jul 30, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You really have no experience following the trade deadline at all… do you?
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Nope
Only 40 years.
I left off the sarcasm font boys
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by Kushagi on Jul 31, 2011 12:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I left off the sarcasm font boys
Ya can’t just do that to us with so many stupid people commenting! I’ve seen so many things that should have been sarcastic written of the last few days that weren’t…
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Heyward should be traded or DFA'd... he's useless...
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by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on Jul 31, 2011 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Just read...
on MLBTR that Wade is asking for BOTH Vizcieno AND Delgado. He is crazy and I know for sure Wren wont do it and he shouldnt. 1 of those guys and a mid tier guy or two should be plenty. The Astros and really pissing me off. We had the better offer for Pence but because we wouldn’t give up two of our top 4 plus a more mid tier guys they sent him to the Phils AND the sent money as well so the Phils would stay under the luxury limit.
You really think our actual offer for Pence was better than Phillies'?
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We don’t even know what our offer was.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
No better than Minor, a B Prospect, and two filler prospects?
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All we know is that it was “substantial”
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Several reliable sources have said we offered Minor but weren't willing to give another of the Four...
You don’t believe that for some reason?
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If that was our offer, it was better than what they got from Philly
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Assuming the filler prospects are mostly filler prospects and mostly equal…
You think Minor and a B prospect from us is better than Singleton and Cosart?
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Yes.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmm... Okay.
Disagree but still <3 you buddy.
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Minor is already MLB ready. My assumption is that the B-level was Hoover or Spruill, or someone to that effect.
Singleton and Cosart are “A” players. Minor alone would be worth more than those two combined. They are both long shot prospects. Minor is as close to a sure thing as you can get.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends on how good you think Singleton will be, I suppose
I don’t see what the big deal is with Cosart. Mike Minor, at least, has already demonstrated the ability to be an average MLB starter.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Astros fan here.
I’d rather have what we got from Philly than that package.
I doubt Wade is actually demanding both Delgado and Vizcaino. If he is he’ll probably come down on that today, and settle for just one.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
No, but what they got for Pence was less than what they wanted from the Braves
I know that much.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
and much less than what they're asking for Bourn
who isn’t as controlled or as hot of a piece (regardless of the fact he’s better)
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 31, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Why on earth are the Nationals so hell-bent on getting an CF?
The Nationals are more likely to go after Span than Michael Bourn or B.J. Upton at this point, according to ESPN.com’s Buster Olney (on Twitter). Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports hears that the sides are in a “staredown” (Twitter link). The Twins want the Nationals to include Storen in their offer.
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Because theirs is Rick Ankiel?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
ha
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
What's weirder
Is that the big hold-up in the deal is that they won’t include Drew Storen.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Don’t you know how valuable bullpen arms are???
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean, I guess the big deal is that Storen is controlled through 2015
but then, Span is signed through 2014 with a $9 club option for 2015. So it’s like…you’re getting 5 years of an above average, still young CFer, and you just have to give up a young bullpen arm.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
So… Why did people have to start mentioning Span…? Now I’m angry we’re not going after him.
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CUTCH CUTCH CUTCH CUTCH
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
Isn't available...
The frustrating thing with Span is apparently he’s up for buying.
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Billingsley was dancing all night, even when he had a 4-1 lead.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Wouldn't this be the biggest conspiracy theory ever.
Ed Wade leaves Philly in 2005, but the brass tells him “Listen, we’re gonna keep paying you, off the books, and we want you to become someone else’s GM, and continuously let us fleece you in trades.”
Ed Wade then says “That’ll never work! People will know somethings up.”
Philly Brass: “Well we’ll give you good prospects, but it will all be high risk, high reward type deals, but don’t worry, we’ll make sure they all blow up in your face.”
Ed Wade: “I suppose I could do that. Anything else?”
Philly Brass: “Yeah….also, be extremely demanding in other trades, asking for ridiculous amounts of prospects in return.”
If Philly wins the World Series, I’d like this investigated.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 31, 2011 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
You know whats sad
This really is how it feels dealing with the ’Stros right now.
"The Dos Equis guys want me to be the least interesting man in the world" - Drama
by BravesDawg16 on Jul 31, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
But Ed Wade didn't leave the Phillies...
The Phillies pushed him out… didn’t they?
HE SHOULD HATE THEM!
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yeah I'm not buying that. I think it's as simple as he knows the Braves really need a hitter/cf
and he knows our farm system is stacked, so he’s expecting more from us.
No it's stupid either way
That’s like saying whoever he trades his player to, he wants that teams two best players in return. Lets say the teams in question are the Red Sox and Royals. Would you rather have the Royals’ 2 best players? Or the Red Sox 2nd best and 3rd best players? Ed Wade would take the Royals package.
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 31, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
It'll be interesting to see
Out of all the prospects the Phillies have traded in the past 3 years, which ones actually become something.
My guess is one or two MAX.
They’ve essentially stolen Lee, Oswalt, and Pence in the past three years
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 31, 2011 12:25 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah... Bourn is only alright.
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Bourn for Lidge is the only fair deal thats been made
The 4 for 1 Indians deal for Lee has produced only Carrasco and he sux. The Oswalt trade should go down as one of the most ridicuous one sided trades ever( essentially Oswalt for JA happ-13 losses this year and Houston payed a TON of the contract). Drabek has done absolutly nothing for Toronto but there is still a chance hes very good. But Ed wade has the balls to ask for Delgado and Vizcaino for Bourn? he realizes we arent a rival and play in different divisions right?
I'm actually more concerned
by no rumors about relievers. Ive been feeling that is the most important missing piece.
Moylan, Vizcaino, etc
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
We will get a rh reliever.
ESPN and MLB network don’t care about those rumors. Those deals will just happen tomorrow at the deadline
DFA Proctor
Addition by subtraction
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 31, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Addition by addition
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
The Office Quote Recognition Fail
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't watch the Office unfortunately
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 31, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
You need to rectify this situation immediately
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
The Phillies took on so little (just $200,000) of Pence’s salary that they have flexibility to deal for a low-budget bullpen arm or a home run threat off the bench. They continue to talk to Colorado about Jason Giambi. And they even asked the Twins about Jim Thome, but the Twins would like to hang onto Thome until he hits his 600th homer.
Thanks, Ed Wade
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 31, 2011 12:37 AM EDT reply actions
WTF???
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm convinced Ruben Amaro used a Confundus Charm
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 31, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
hey i actually get that reference...
does that make me a dork?
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on Jul 31, 2011 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought they only sent them 1 million but...
“acquired by Philadelphia in trade from Houston 7/29/11 (Astros pay $2M of remaining 2011 salary of $2.3M)”
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Ed Wade through them a bone
so that they could stay under the luxury tax limit AND get another piece
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 31, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Bowman
All seems quiet tonight. Don’t forget when you went to sleep July 30, 2010 you didn’t know Ankiel and Farnsy would be in your stocking.
Was I so bad Santa gave me coal?
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When told
My shoulders literally slumped. It’s a damned wonder I didn’t actually hit the floor.
"You feel really comfortable with Scotty Proctor in that situation to handle those guys." - Fredi Gonzalez
LOL
Very funny…
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by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on Jul 31, 2011 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Astros wanted a package of Josh Reddick and Kyle Weiland from Boston for Pence...
Is that more than they asked Philly for? I’m actually asking, I have no idea.
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It seems like we were penalized for having too many good players. That’s not how that works Ed Wade.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
I mean I can totally see a GM deciding that Pence’s price is dependent on the top 1-5 names on the organization without any thought about relative strength. It’s kind of smart to a certain extent but then he screwed it up by going high risk high reward on the Phillies players. I just think that the value for Minor should have been something like 75% of the total deal that the Phillies sent to Astros. Would have been pretty easy to make it of a higher value to the Astros but they very stupidly weren’t listening.
If your stance is that you need to try to fleece other teams because there is a demand, then it seems the idea would be that you absolutely can’t miss on the prospects you receive from the trade. And yet they get young, lesser developed high ceiling prospects. I don’t get it.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
thats why Ed Wade's a joke as a dealing GM
He did draft Howard Utley Hamels Rollins but failed and was fired in Philly cause he couldnt make trades.
It's like he told all teams "we want 2 of your top 4 prospects"
And we were like " FU, our prospects are really good but you can have some of 5-10 which are better than most other team’s top guys". And Ed Wade said “No it has to be your teams top 4, no compromise”
its like our having a deep farm system is working against us...
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by SouthernPanther on Jul 31, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Ive been feeling this way for awhile now
it just seems that teams are penalizing us for having a good minor league system
I guess
I’ll just have to kill Nazi zombies until Wren makes a deal. I’ll be monitoring this site closely looking for the latest and greatest. Who’s staying up with me???
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:47 AM EDT reply actions
Until 4 pm tomorrow?
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Until I pass out. I have a flight tomorrow morning that I have to catch.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably me
gotta get some work done sometime
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 31, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
You really think we’re going to hear something tonight?
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
IDK. I can’t imagine that the GMs have called it a night already
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 31, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
The more I hear about the Astros wanting 2 of the 4 prospects
The more I want BJ Upton just to get it over with
"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard"
by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jul 31, 2011 12:48 AM EDT reply actions
or Span...
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
this
idk why the astros hate us so much…
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Jul 31, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I really like the Astros
But I’m going to end up hating them after this trade deadline
"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard"
by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jul 31, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I kind of think that maybe you get minor pieces if you can’t get Bourn. The problem is that Free agency next year is somewhat weak and I don’t like this revolving door outfield thing we are doing. I want Bourn or bust at this stage. Maybe Upton, but I don’t want to do it unless it’s an incredibly cheap deal.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
theres a chance Upton won't cost us a "big 4" but probly not
Minor will probably have to go but we HAVE to get a CF. I’d settle on Upton. I have a feeling he would improve with us. I don’t know why
I think with vets like Chipper, Mac, Uggla, Hinske
And young hard workers like Jason and Freddie, he would defiantly improve
"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard"
by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jul 31, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
So he would improve, but reluctantly?
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 31, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Just saying
Tampa is full of young guys and a city that doesn’t support their team, maybe he needs a change
"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard"
by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jul 31, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
i live in NC
and yes, the outer banks are awesome
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by SouthernPanther on Jul 31, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
it is nice, i really like it
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by SouthernPanther on Jul 31, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
i've been to nag's head several times now and we've always had fun there
of course i’m a college student so i just go with my friends and drink the whole time, so we could probably have fun anywhere…
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Jul 31, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
haha word
well my opinion won’t be too helpful then, but they are nice beaches…
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by SouthernPanther on Jul 31, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah… I’m just looking forward to go fishing and walking the beach.. At night I’ll eat some seafood and chill in the hotel i guess… :)
ain't nothin wrong with that
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by SouthernPanther on Jul 31, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What part of nice, quiet relaxing vacation... didn't sound awesome?
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btw I think Wren will have to settle with a Willingham or a Upton… I’m still holding out hope for Stubbs. And Willingham isn’t as bad as people on this site think he is. The guy is a legit hitter and so much better than Ankiel or Schafer
he doesnt play center field though...
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by SouthernPanther on Jul 31, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
so where do you put willingham is what i'm saying?
does he take prado’s spot in left, or heyward’s spot in right, i dont think so…
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by SouthernPanther on Jul 31, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Willingham can play left, move mclouth to center, and wait for chipper’s knees to blow out again and then move prado back to third.
i don't think the team is willing to make a move assuming chipper won't be a major part of the team going forward
although it is likely chipper will be hurt throughout the rest of the season given his inability to stay healthy the past few years
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by SouthernPanther on Jul 31, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
He isn’t that bad and would be a upgrade over every CF we have so shrug. Unless these crazy prices come down its an easy way to improve the team.
Willingham as the 4th OF is my dream
"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard"
by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jul 31, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really, really nice.
Been there a few times.
That's the thing about baseball, no time clock. Anything is possible until the last out.
by BravesFaninAZ on Jul 31, 2011 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Love him,but yeah
Lived in AZ when i signed on, but that was only for nine months. Had a southern mom, and lived in NC for many years, watching Braves on TBS. Live in Oregon now.
by BravesFaninAZ on Jul 31, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I know people think we whine and overrate our own prospects but
here’s an independent article from baseball prospectus on the Pence trade. It’s an unbelievably risky trade by the Astros for A ball players. And after reading it, think about what Ed Wade just asked for in a deal for Bourn. It’s absolute insanity.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=14668
i HATE ed wade
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by SouthernPanther on Jul 31, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
He is negotiating to the team instead of selling the value of a player.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
I think Houston is in position to take some High Risk/ High Reward gambles but the much higher demands made toward the Braves is pretty messed up.
agreed Ultada. But also, he doesn't take the Phillies to the deadline to
drive up most possible Value for Pence(better player then Bourn). Then asks us for 2 pitchers who are better than any player he just got in the Pence deal for Bourn? If he doesn’t want to really deal bourn thats fine but otherwise, it’s crazy. It’s like he is pushing a team ranked by many as the 3rd best farm system in baseball away.
So where are we talking... here... or that late night thread?
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You know what would be great?
The Braves make absolutely no moves, while all other contenders make a bunch of moves that disrupt team cohesion, team chemistry, and takes a detrimental amount of time before they can start winning again. And then the Atlanta Braves tells the rest of Major League Baseball that they are not really left handed, switches the rapier to their right hand, and then obliterates the competition en route to a 117-45 new best record ever, and goes 11-0 in the playoffs.
That would be pretty great.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
I’m on board for this.
That's the thing about baseball, no time clock. Anything is possible until the last out.
by BravesFaninAZ on Jul 31, 2011 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I would like to subscribe to your newletter.
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on Jul 31, 2011 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Is everyone forgetting the huge trade the Braves just made!?
They picked up this guy Dan Uggla on the FA wire… Apparently, he’s pretty good… Apparently he was trapped in a closet at the beginning of the season and his twin brother was traded from the Marlins to the Braves in the off-season…
The twin brother has now been DFAed and the real Uggla is on the team…
I heard there was a published apology for the confusion.
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
Where the heck is my 2 headed llamasaurus!?!?!?
NCChopper… You’re letting me down.. I scoured the GT, the overflow GT… this thing…
/sadcatissad
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by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
image size fail. :(
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on Jul 31, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
HeHe, with all the rosterbating, I figured the actual game results were just a "oh yeah, that happened" until it's all over.
Here ya go.
~ "The NL - where our pitchers do more than just play with their balls." ~
This Uggla guy
is pretty good at hitting baseballs.
Or so a little birdy told me.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
Per Buster:
Lots of teams have hit the Marlins on Infante;right now, ATL/Infante deal not close at all, according to a source. FLA leans toward keeping
Ok, either the GM’s release this crap after every time we talk to them about a player to simulate a bidding war, or a bunch of teams are following us around on players like jackals. Grrrr…..
"Baseball is the only place in life where a sacrifice is really appreciated."
Rosenthal:
Source: #Braves on verge of acquiring #Astros’ Bourn for four minor leaguers. #tradedeadline #MLB
I will NOT get excited. I will NOT get excited.
"Baseball is the only place in life where a sacrifice is really appreciated."
Rosenthal:
Source: #Braves on verge of acquiring #Astros’ Bourn for four minor leaguers. #tradedeadline #MLB
I WILL GET EXCITED> I WILL GET EXCITED.
"Baseball is the only place in life where a sacrifice is really appreciated."
#Braves’ deal for #Astros’ Bourn is done. Announcement at 10 a.m. ET. #tradedeadline #MLB
"Baseball is the only place in life where a sacrifice is really appreciated."
I think might be getting loud, up in HERE. Up in HERE.
"Baseball is the only place in life where a sacrifice is really appreciated."
FFF:
“Down goes Schafer! Down goes Schafer!”
"Baseball is the only place in life where a sacrifice is really appreciated."
between this and them both being on the DL
hopefully this finally puts to rest the never-ending McLouth vs Schafer argument
Now if we pick up Omar...
we will be in very good shape. Pick up a reliever, or just promote from within. We will be a much better club than we were a week ago.
"Baseball is the only place in life where a sacrifice is really appreciated."
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