Report: Braves Making Hard Push For Astros Bourn
by gondeee on Jul 30, 2011 4:23 PM EDT
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With the Atlanta Braves desperately needing an additional bat, and specifically a center fielder, they could be getting closer to making a move for one of the best. Buster Olney tweeted this:
From an NL evaluator: Atlanta working hard on working out a deal for Michael Bourn. His trade value never higher than right now;FA in '12.
Earlier today we heard some rumblings that thee Braves might stand pat at the deadline, but I don't think that's a real possibility. Players on the team have already made it clear they would like for the front office to get the team some help. Anyone looking at the recent injuries can deduce that a move should be made. The Braves will make a move, for someone. Ken Davidoff passes this note along:
Person in touch with #Braves says there is confidence they'll get an OF.
We know the Braves were in the middle of the Carlos Beltran discussions. They were in the middle of the Hunter Pence discussions (and in fact may have made a better offer than the Phillies). The front office has been trying to get a bat because they know the team needs one.
The question now becomes how much should the Braves give up for a hitter who may not be their first choice. In the case of Bourn it will probably take one of the Four Horsemen to get it done, but that shouldn't be a move the team balks at considering Bourn is under team control through next year and is one of the best leadoff hitters and center fielders in the game. The Braves have always valued defense up the middle, that sounds like Bourn. The Braves have a glaring need for a speedy leadoff man with a good on-base percentage, that sounds like Bourn.
We'll see how long this takes to actually materialize, but it needs to happen. Bourn has been the right choice all along. It may have taken some time for the Braves to realize that (or for me to realize that), but it's true. I wonder if this stare-down between Ed Wade and Frank Wren will come down to the wire tomorrow, or if it will get done with some time to spare. My guess is it gets done right before or at the deadline, if it truly the direction the Braves want to go.
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lol never have i ever seen a more accurate comparison
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
I got confused for a moment, I thought that was Proctor.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
So who’s our Roger Dorn?
K/W Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by your closer when effect is active. The way in which these runs are surrendered is the variable and is everchanging.
by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Jul 30, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I lol’d
K/W Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by your closer when effect is active. The way in which these runs are surrendered is the variable and is everchanging.
by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Jul 30, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Does that mean Kimbrel gets to sleep with his wife?
"One thing I’ve learned as a Phillies fan is that a lot of people hate our team and its fans."-commenter on The Good Phight
by Chipper Pwns on Jul 30, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
I value run-differential
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
I'm not getting into this argument again, lol
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
shutup you'll jinks this..
sorry for telling you to shutup..but it had to be done..
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
i know thus the reason why I asked you to Shutup..lol
I was only kiddin man.
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
Bourn
makes 4.4 mil this year. Arb. Eligible in ’12. FA in 2013. Scott Boras client
"He who smiles rather than rages is always the stronger."
Twitter:Hey_Jude18
sorry another gif but
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
thats how we should feel if we dont get him
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
That is priceless,
TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE; ONE MUST STUDY,TO ACQUIRE WISDOM ONE MUST OBSERVE !!
REMEMBER THE KING AND THE PAWN GO IN THE SAME BOX WHEN THE GAME IS OVER !!!
YOU ARE NOT BORN A WINNER, YOU ARE NOT BORN A LOSER, YOU ARE WHAT YOU MAKE YOURSELF BECOME !!
best gif ever
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.
by TurnerTheBurner on Jul 30, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Tweet from Moylan
“Bourn Again!”
(Oh, sheesh – not him too!!!)
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
From Ken Rosenthal
#Diamondbacks working to acquire RHP Marquis from #Nationals. #tradedeadline #MLB
by jrodisjust2cool on Jul 30, 2011 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
It will be amazingly lucky if we end up with the exact player that we need after trying to overpay for the wrong move to get Pence and somehow losing out to an inferior deal from the Phils. I guess we can just pretend that it’s what Frank wanted all along. Sort of reminds me of when we got saved from the stupid Furcal at second base move because his agent screwed with us. Wren has a nice knack for getting screwed into the correct moves.
Unfortunately
Furcal and Bourn are both Boras clients.
"He who smiles rather than rages is always the stronger."
Twitter:Hey_Jude18
Not Furcal.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
At the time he was, iirc
"He who smiles rather than rages is always the stronger."
Twitter:Hey_Jude18
Dec. 2008
Earlier in the day Tuesday, a source close to the situation told ESPN.com that Furcal had reached preliminary agreement with Atlanta pending completion of a physical exam.
As the day progressed, agent Paul Kinzer stated publicly that Furcal had yet to commit to the Braves, where he spent his first six major league seasons. Atlanta general manager Frank Wren didn’t respond to an e-mail seeking comment.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
Furcal wasn't at the time..it was that other group or whatever..
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
Doubtful we’d be resigning Bourn anyway. This move would be solely aimed at this year and next year with probably the hope that Schafer can take over after that.
IDK
Wren has said he wanted to get someone that we could resign, only time will tell.
"He who smiles rather than rages is always the stronger."
Twitter:Hey_Jude18
maybe he was just talking about resign for 2012
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Is this how history will look at it?
FW being conniving and wily, getting his competition to overpay for a player the Braves really didn’t want (I admittedly wanted him but I’m a novice) only to nab the player we need? Let’s hope!
History would look at it as the tide turning for the soon-to-be World Series winners from Atlanta.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
You do realize that Bobby tried to trade away a lot of people..and make trades for people
that fell through that ended up working out to the better for us..I wish I could remember some..but they were hilarious..
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How is it
Atl will have to give up major-league talent to HOU and PHI gets to give A+ level prospects with injury histories… Someone must have pics of Ed Wade doing something most people would frown upon
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Jul 30, 2011 4:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Honestly I’m glad the pence trade happened. The Phillies give up their best prospects for a guy having a career year. The Phillies future is weak…
by Braves Biceps on Jul 30, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Bourn has an 82.8% SB success rate for his career.
In other words, awesome.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
As long as Odarp keeps hitting singles
We should turn a lot more of those 0’s on the scoreboard to 1’s.
Mclouth had a similar percentage
A lot of room in right center, if he hits one there we can dance in the streets, the 2-1....
Twitter: @taymccracken
but also a shit ton less
Bourn gets 50 a year, the most mclouth ever had was like 25
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
11 of his SBs this year have been to 3B. Of those, 0 caught stealing.
Twitter: @thekudzukid THIS IS THE YEAR!
That's... amazing.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
Your point?
He isn’t prado…therefore, he won’t be allowed to steal. nuff said
This deal needs to get done stat.
I’m tired of waiting.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Cubs spotted Rodrigo Lopez a 5 spot
how long will it last?
K/W Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by your closer when effect is active. The way in which these runs are surrendered is the variable and is everchanging.
by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Jul 30, 2011 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
Please please please get this done Frank
The sooner the better
If we get Bourn
The Beltran and Pence trades falling through were a huge blessing in disguise
"I still feel like I have something to offer, and the cynical fan can really kiss my ass. I really don’t care. There’s a bunch of true fans and the people who actually want to take the time to get to know me know who I am. The guy who sits in his mom’s basement and types on his mom’s computer, I couldn’t really care less about." - Chipper Jones
Missed game last night, but
I heard something about that being the Braves first sac-fly in nearly 3 weeks?
Is that even possible?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
only because George Constanza is faster than fast.
K/W Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by your closer when effect is active. The way in which these runs are surrendered is the variable and is everchanging.
by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Jul 30, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea first since June 21st or something like that. Chipper vs Toronto
Pretty crazy stat
first in 5 weeks actually
and before than one it was like another 3 weeks
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
That’s god awful.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
It's hard to bunt for a sac fly.
That’s why we don’t do it much.
lol
It is also hard to hit a line drive to left for a sac fly
I'd like to see him in the lineup tonight.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
I'm gonna go out on a limb..
I don’t think Frank Wren is quite as dumb as many of you do, in fact, I probably thinking he’s smarter than he actually is. The idea of “saving ourselves from ourselves”, to me, is completely rubbish. As is the thought that through “losing” other trades we’ve suddenly stumbled upon our truest need. Could something like this NOT have been the plan all along? Sure offers were made, and if the reports are true, in the case of the Pence deal the offer was better (::sniff:: Collusion?). But Frank Wren has always come from the proverbial left field when it comes to trades, so who’s to say really what his intent has been all along? Now…GET BOURN!
Twitter: @thekudzukid THIS IS THE YEAR!
by Kudzu Kid on Jul 30, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think Wren is very intelligent.
He knows what he’s doing. I just wish he’d have done it already. Whatever that is.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
Certainly very possible
I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt since we really don’t know what happened behind the scenes, even with reports out there about what we may have offered. The Furcal example was definitely not some bluff though and proves that Wren isn’t always playing some 8-dimensional chess game out there.
your not out on that limb all alone..I pretty much said this exact same thing
in other posts if you wanna look back..makes sense to me.
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
Exactly..amazing deal honestly..miss omar..but uggs is gonna be just fine after rough start.
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
I’m willing to ignore everything before the all-star break. That was 1/10th of his contract. He got the “let’s crush every pitch”ness out of his system and is now playing exactly how we needed him to, and might I add, pretty impressively on defense too. The dude is a LOT quicker than he looks.
Best thing about it is he never took a play off. Played plus defense and kept motoring.
Twitter: @thekudzukid THIS IS THE YEAR!
a lot to love about Uggla
the Person and the Player, funny, because when he played against us I HATED him
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
he had a bad start
but hasn’t been too bad since
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Maybe he was just driving Pence's asking price up
by joining in the trade talks.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
Nat's making headway on span it appears..
really and honestly..WTF do they think they are doing over there??
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
Twinkies want Storen
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
If reports are true
They’re only giving up a reliever, which would be the second time the Twins have done something this stupid to the Nats
just a reliever.......jeeez...
sent them proctor..do it now franky! lol..
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What are the chances that we get Bourn and another outfielder?
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
possible id say idk like 30, 40% or so
if we get Bourn they could go after a Willingham/Ludwick type player for bench support
by bravesfan1047 on Jul 30, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe — if you can flip somebody (Nate most likely) to somebody wanting a LH outfielder.
Figure this: If Bourn is in the mix, we have Bourn, Nate, Schaf, Heyward, Hinske — all LH OF’s.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
yea i can see them doing something liek that
but i dont know who would take Nate, he’s been good lately, but not sure who would trade for him
by bravesfan1047 on Jul 30, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
But Bourn’s splits vs. LHP are very very good, so it’s really not much to worry about with him I wouldn’t think
"I still feel like I have something to offer, and the cynical fan can really kiss my ass. I really don’t care. There’s a bunch of true fans and the people who actually want to take the time to get to know me know who I am. The guy who sits in his mom’s basement and types on his mom’s computer, I couldn’t really care less about." - Chipper Jones
willingham still left on board..
if the price for bourn not to high..we could possibly go after him..bench bat yes..every day..ehhh
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would be more of a platoon
not every day
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
what if Bourn goes through as does Furcal, do you go after The Riot?
K/W Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by your closer when effect is active. The way in which these runs are surrendered is the variable and is everchanging.
by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Jul 30, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you guys get Bourn because I cant stand the Phils and their fans. I just hope
Wren is willing to part with some pieces to make it go down. With Bourn in CF you guys are in for a treat. He’s faster than Otis Nixon and Im pretty sure he’s fast than Andruw Jones ever was. Add to that that this year Bourn worked hard in the off season to make adjustments to offensive game which has led to an increase in his OBP and BA. With his increase in OBP with ATL’s lineup and starting rotation is goodbye Philly!!!
thanks
in your opinion, what would you consider an even return?
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
I personally would like Minor,Hoover, and Perez for the 2 time and soon to be 3time GG
winner who is batting over .300 and is also the NL SB leader. Man Im gonna hate watching when you guys play us next season. lol
You don't have to Pitch him to us
we all know his stats and want him, IMO that sounds fair
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
And that’s only the price for now. If FO decides they’re still in love with Schafer, Bourn could be easily traded in the offseason. Probably wouldn’t get AS good of a deal but would definitely offset most of our cost to get him now.
Twitter: @thekudzukid THIS IS THE YEAR!
I made it up.
No really, I thought at one point he’d practically said the Braves wouldn’t negotiate with Boras anymore. Not that could ever happen, but I feel like there was an instance where the bridge was burned pretty badly.
Twitter: @thekudzukid THIS IS THE YEAR!
horrible probably
but gotta start somewhere since Hanson and JJ are both clients
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Bourn shouldnt even come close to breaking the bank but then again we
are talking Scott “D-Bag” Boras here son you never know.
Way too much...
Wren won’t swing that far.
In all honesty, I see something like Perez and Hoover. Perez and Oberholtzer would probably be the limit.
I don’t see any of the four being traded for a guy with only 1 year and a couple months of service time remaining.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
We share your enthusiasm for the Phil fans. I do hope we can work out something equitable — we need the Astros back to being the tean they were in the 90’s.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
When billionaire Ted stared pushing WTBS back in the early 80's the only channel I could
here in south TX that carried baseball was WTBS. So even though Im a Astros fan through and through there is little space in my heart for the Braves. Dale Murphy will always be one of my favorite players from my childhood. Btw, I miss you guys in the old powder blue unis.. lol
by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
Rec'd.
You’re pretty cool, Stros.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
I am not trying to kiss ass but
Houston is one of my fav. teams. I remember all the great games and series we had against them in the early 2000s and of course the long playoff game, ridiculous that we lost, but it was memorable.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
I always thought the 3 B's were awesome
Watching the Braves in the mid-90s as a kid, the ’Stros certainly had an identity.
Bagwell and Biggio were incredible.
I think outside of the 96 World Series, some of the first games I remember sitting down to watch were the Braves and Astros. Good memories.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
I wish Bud the Dud hadnt comeup with interleague play. I miss playing
the Braves more than two series a year.
I'm with you. Interleague sucks.
The only time I want to use a DH is in the world series, and that’s only because we have to, because it’s the world series.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
Not inside each division, but from division to division, yeah.
Those could be NL teams in the Central or West we could be playing instead of teams from the AL.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
It would make it interesting then.
I know interleague attendance is up and everything, but it really sucks for purists.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
Yea they did but Grocery Boy Drayton neglected the farm and traded away
what talent was there without replacing it which is why were are in the position we are in.
You guys are in some dark days.
Reserve that crap for Chicago, I hope you guys get better. Not that it’ll matter for us if you get sent to the AL.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
the DH takes so much thought out of it.
it’s fun listening to the radio and hearing guys who’ve played the game for decades say the same thing.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
IT'S OFFICIAL.... Jason Marquis, that is...
3:42pm: The trade is agreed upon, tweets Morosi – Marquis will join the Diamondbacks.
3:33pm: The D’Backs are close to acquiring Marquis, tweets Jon Paul Morosi. Marquis is scheduled to take on the Mets less than three hours from now at Nationals Park.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
when I read the first few words of that on Twitter
I thought the bourn deal was done..
"There's nothing better than a baseball game" - Bobby Cox
The other half of the Marquis trade...
3:58pm: The Nationals will receive shortstop prospect Zach Walters from the D’Backs, tweets ESPN’s Jim Bowden.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
In other news... Rockies/Yankees/Jimenez
—The Rockies will have a scout watching Nova tonight at Yankee Stadium, tweets Sherman.
The price on Jimenez has come down a tad, tweets Jon Heyman. He says the Rockies are no longer asking for Banuelos from the Yankees; Betances, Nova, and Montero would work. —That’s similar to what Joel Sherman wrote earlier today. The two teams have not talked today, tweets Troy Renck. Renck believes the Yankees currently will not put both Montero and Betances in the deal – just one.
(usual sources: mlbtr)
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
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I’m told Bourn was practically a done deal to ATL, can’t say source, don’t know if HOU has changed asking $$$
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COME ON! GET IT DONE!
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
She twittered bourn to ATL an hour ago..
I’m not familiar with her..but moylan RT’d it..
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
Joel Sherman from the NY Post..
#Braves have 2 of 7 SP 35 or older in NL (Hudson/Lowe) which is why so protective moving forward of best P prospects
by jrodisjust2cool on Jul 30, 2011 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
I never said he's = to Minor
My point is he a young lefty who has a 4 pitch mix(his change being his best pitch) and was a 1st round pick which would make Minor expendable.
people cringed at the Minor pick
i have faith in our pitching development. now…hitters
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 30, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
if
it took a Minor pick for you to believe in the Braves scouting and developing prospect…then wow
Minor has had success in the MLB and would start for about 20-25 teams right now. Gilmartin is no sure thing.
Minor
He tops out at 94 and so does Gilmartin but Gilmartin sits 89-91 with his FB and Minor sits 90-92 which is not a huge difference both guys have outstanding change ups so they are pretty comparable.
neither did Minor in college
it was a mechanics tweak.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 30, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
His start against Texas A&M in the regionals
He hit 94 twice
Though...
Minor has at least pitched in the big leagues. With the way Mike Martin abuses pitchers (sound familiar), they should give Gilmartin a few months off anyway.
Twitter: @thekudzukid THIS IS THE YEAR!
In my opinion that’s a really stupid philosphy. If a great Lefy outfielder came through out system who was 6’5 , made great adjustments, 5-tool player… potential to be a superstar… would we trade heyward?
This is baseball! It’s not like b-ball where two point guards can’t co-exist or whatever.
by Braves Biceps on Jul 30, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
This makes ZERO sense
The Braves have too many starting pitcher they CANNOT keep them all so trading 1 or even two of these guys to fill another need would be ideal.
Only if we needed to
To shore up another position. Because then he would be expendable. We wouldn’t have to trade him, we’d be able to.
If we can’t get Bourn, can we get BJ Upton AND Kate Upton?
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Jon Morosi..
#Pirates need bat and bullpen. #Athletics have both. They’re talking, sources say.
There goes Willingham perhaps.
by jrodisjust2cool on Jul 30, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
I'm supposed to be writing a research paper
FW, get the trade done so I can finish!
"I don't drink beer, I'm an athlete" - Peter Moylan
i want to finish too
ive been rosterbating all day
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
All day? It’s going to be messy, better get some extras towels
"I don't drink beer, I'm an athlete" - Peter Moylan
im very surprised with my stamina
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
That’s rough.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Meh depends on which one
Ochem1 aint bad
by DreamWithinADream on Jul 30, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I would like to see Bourn taken out of the Stros lineup.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
That would only work if they were more desperate than were.
I don’t believe that is the case. That’s why Bourn is suddenly worth one of our young studs, whereas Pence wasn’t even worth that, and Bourn was supposed to be half his price.
Still seeing a couple of tweets from Indians fans...
…about Bourn. Honestly don’t quite get that after their Fukodome deal.
On the other hand, maybe I do see why.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
z
Damn. Twitter slowing down on Bourn.
Was hoping the deal would be announced right away.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Warning...
There’s a tweet now saying that the Braves are the “front-runners” for Bourn…. HOWEVER there is no attributable source whatsoever.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
You mean this?
gwagt Bret Anderson
@Andrew_Vig are the Braves front runner for Bourn
I think that was a question.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Although there’s this bit now… “Braves get M Bourn from Hou. Great pick up.” Ugh…. have a little patience, people!!
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
If we get Bourn, I'll do this.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Buster saying drew storen span deal will go down..
says he called it earlier in week….
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
I just saw on twitter that the Braves are “pushing hard” for Jose Bautista. Stay tuned, folks.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
they can push all they want
I don’t want to see what the Jays would ask. Not happening.
Twitter: @thekudzukid THIS IS THE YEAR!
kinda doubt it
but itd be awesome thats for sure
by bravesfan1047 on Jul 30, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I was kidding, guys.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
you forgot to use the sarcasm font lol
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
I Think
you put a @ in the front and end of what you want to say
like this
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
so you mean not like that?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
cool
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
Not being sarcastic by the way
learning sarcastic font has opened a new world to me.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
agreed.
I am a sarcastic guy. but never knew how to do that…
by Clemson Caniac on Jul 30, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't leave Panera Bread..
with all this trade talk going on. My face is glued to the screen. Plus a cute girl just came in.
Make it happen
Call me crazy but this is the piece we need in the line up.
Bourne
Prado
Jones
McCann
Uggla
Freeman
Heyward
Gonzalez
That sounds great to me! What is the story on Bourne in the club house?
At the age of six I wanted to be a chef. At seven I wanted to be Napoleon. My ambition has been steadily growing ever since. -Salvador Dali
by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 5:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
he's been under mind control before..knows several forms of martial arts..
and is considere extremely dangerous..
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
HIS NAME IS
ZOOLANDER
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
That lineup..
If healthy, would be fantastic.
by Hobnail_Boot on Jul 30, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes it would
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by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 5:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe we should start hitting SeaBass 9th?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
actually that lineup would produce more runs than hitting him 8
by Braves Biceps on Jul 30, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Teams will walk the pitcher to get to him.
by Clemson Caniac on Jul 30, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's some stats worth checking out:
1-Bourn is batting .284 against LHP in 2011
2- His .364 OBP would rank 3rd on the Braves
3- Bourn has 39 SB. Braves have 41 SB as a team.
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.
by TurnerTheBurner on Jul 30, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
His ba is second
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by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 5:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bourn would help us more than any one of Pence, Quentin, Upton, or Beltran, in my opinion.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
Not Kate Upton.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Brooklyn Decker.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
Seriously, guy makes almost too much sense for Braves
time to go get him, he has to cost a good bit less than Pence
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.
by TurnerTheBurner on Jul 30, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
1:34pm: The Angels seek a right-handed sixth-or-seventh-inning kind of arm in the Chad Qualls mold, reports ESPN’s Jayson Stark.
I have an idea for them…. he even won a game for us this week.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
Who gets sent down
When this trade happens?
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by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 5:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Probably right but I would send Jordan
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by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 5:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ya I wouldn’t mind seeing Constanza stay up for PR purposes. Especially when rosters expand, obvously
K/W Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by your closer when effect is active. The way in which these runs are surrendered is the variable and is everchanging.
by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Jul 30, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
It all makes perfect sense now
That night Schafer bunted and got on base… Him and Fredi… Oh God
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.
by TurnerTheBurner on Jul 30, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Constanza
The McLouth/Schafer debate will be interesting though
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.
by TurnerTheBurner on Jul 30, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Constanza..
but he’ll probably stick around until Nate or Jordan are off the Dl
by bravesfan1047 on Jul 30, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
IF
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
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by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
I was all about Jordan pre season. But watching him play makes me a non believer.
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by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He was Bourn
to help the braves win the world series.
wtf?
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Rival exec: #Braves have six untouchables, not previously reported four. Will make it tough to get #Astros’ Bourn. #tradedeadline #MLB
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
wtf is going on.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Teheran
Minor
Delgado
Vizcaino
Salcedo
Bethancourt?
Simmons?
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Pastornicky?
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
As in ‘no way could he be on the untouchable list’
Frankly, I think the list should be 2 names long: Teheran and Vizzy,
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
hes a better bullpen arm
but hes not better than Tehran, i dont care what Law says
Right.
You don’t care what the scouting community says.
by frozendesert on Jul 30, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The same guy who said Freeman lacked power?
yeah, I might not take his word as gospel.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 31, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Could be
Clint Barmes isn’t a great player, buddy of mine played college ball with him and follows him. Says he’s not very good anymore.
Your friend might want to watch Barmes play MLB from his couch then. Barmes is
a plus defender with excellent range and has been hitting rather well as of late.
I’m going to lose my shit soon. This has to happen.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed. I’m fine we sat back on Beltran. I’m fine we declined on Pence.
But if we don’t Bourn, then we just aren’t smart
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.
by TurnerTheBurner on Jul 30, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too.
If we have six guys we can’t trade then they need to be in the Bigs, and if there’s no room for them TRADE THEM!
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
Frank Wren is a prick.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That prick has got us where we are right now tho.
by jrodisjust2cool on Jul 30, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right
Frank Wren is BEING a prick.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ken Rosenthal:
Rival exec: #Braves have six untouchables, not previously reported four. Will make it tough to get #Astros’ Bourn. #tradedeadline #MLB
Martin Prado=MVP!
think of it this way
atleast we’re not giving up too much
by bravesfan1047 on Jul 30, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Koji Uehera is going to the Rangers for Chris Davis, according from a source.
by jrodisjust2cool on Jul 30, 2011 5:20 PM EDT reply actions
Wow
good trade for Rangers
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.
by TurnerTheBurner on Jul 30, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t know about the Tommy Hunter inclusion when I typed that
Less of a good trade now
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by TurnerTheBurner on Jul 30, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
My proposition:
Bourn for a miniature stripper, a bag of balls, and a thank-you card.
Wait, scratch that, the stripper has a pretty high ceiling. She could really help the club by about 2015.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
Do we trade our future for a shot at the World Series?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
It's official.. between the Rangers and Orioles.
Confirmed: #Rangers obtaining Uehara from #Orioles for two major leaguers including Davis. #tradedeadline #MLB
by jrodisjust2cool on Jul 30, 2011 5:23 PM EDT reply actions
Davis is just a suckier version of Mark Reynolds.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
Birds are getting P Tommy Hunter too.. from a source.
by jrodisjust2cool on Jul 30, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
please close the deal on bourn, he is a perfect fit
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Jul 30, 2011 5:26 PM EDT reply actions
Screw "untouchables". The only 6 "unchouchables" I see are Heyward, Freeman, JJ, Hanson, Teheran, and Uggla. Anyone else should be up for grabs.
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd have to disagree with that...
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Jul 30, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This is dumb
"I still feel like I have something to offer, and the cynical fan can really kiss my ass. I really don’t care. There’s a bunch of true fans and the people who actually want to take the time to get to know me know who I am. The guy who sits in his mom’s basement and types on his mom’s computer, I couldn’t really care less about." - Chipper Jones
-1
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Elliot Ness is an Untouchable
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
would something like hoover, perez, and bethancourt be too much?
or to little?
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Jul 30, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions
seems fine to me
but would they accept? not sure
by bravesfan1047 on Jul 30, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like guys like Rosenthal just say shot on twitter to piss people off
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by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 5:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He's always been pretty reliable with Braves info.
It seems like very other article he writes is in relation to the Braves.
Martin Prado=MVP!
Everybody already knew that Salcedo was off limits
thats not news, and with us moving Pastor T up to AAA, hes also in that boat
I dont understand how we can be “pushing hard for Bourne”, but not going to give up anything for him…
Seems conflicting to me…
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
That's what twitter does for us.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT
Other treams are seeing these messages too
Remember Philly scooping up Lee? We only see what we’re allowed to see.
I don’t either… I think Rosenthal might have some misinfo
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think stuff is said just to create drama. But they dont realize the trade its self is dramatic enough
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by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 5:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
can't wait till we get him
for a new thread this shit is slow
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
hahaha
just texted my girl saying we might get bourn, she said what position does he play? i said cf and she asked if he could play SS
lol taught her well
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Kind of has to be lol
we had a baby 7 months ago
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
but i agree shes awesome
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
congrats man
hope its all going good for yall
by bravesfan1047 on Jul 30, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Can he?
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
Probably not?
They’re very different positions, even if they both require a lot of athleticism. CF focuses more on running speed and arm, SS more on reaction time and glovework.
Even if he could, I don’t see why it would matter. Close one hole, open another. Keep Gonzalez on the team through the end of ‘11, ’12 if Pastornicky’s not ready. Sea Bass is a terrible hitter, but he can pick it, and he’s been reliable about staying on the field for us. We could do a lot worse…ask the Brewers about that.
haha, that was just a joke.
Thanks for putting your heart into it though.
Your point about closing one hole to open another is a really good one. Gonzalez has got to be one of the top three best defensive shortstops in the league. He’s amazing. For that I’m almost willing to take his hitting.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
I wouldnt get overly worried just yet. We Astros fans went through all this posturing
and fake info all week with Pence.
Luckily we don’t have that long to wait!
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by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 5:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like the Four Horsemen nickname
But realistically, they’re not a unit. Teheran is completely untouchable, whereas Vizcaino is or should be very much on the table for the right piece. Specify which prospects you’d be willing to make the centerpiece of a Bourn package. For me: Minor or Vizcaino.
Delgado's the worst out of that bunch...
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Vizcaino is the only one I haven’t seen pitch. I was pretty impressed when Delgado made is spot start, though.
Twitter: @thekudzukid THIS IS THE YEAR!
you beat to me to those exact words.
K/W Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by your closer when effect is active. The way in which these runs are surrendered is the variable and is everchanging.
by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Jul 30, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
at the futures game
Vizcaino looked reaaaal good
dominated
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
fastball was a consistent 97-98
and his curveball is nasty
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
the only reason why i think Delgaldo is the least untouchable
is becasue hes has the lowest value for our team. Minor is MLB ready, and Viz is most likely going to be our reliever for the stretch
Well,
you don’t have to like the man, but Keith Law gets most of his information from other scouts. And the general consensus seems to be that Vizcaino has passed Teheran. If Teheran is untouchable, Vizcaino should be too.
by frozendesert on Jul 30, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Link?
More people than not seems to think Vizcaino will not stick in the rotation, which basically means he’s automatically worse than Teheran.
on his mid season top prospect list
he had Vizcaino above Teheran
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Yup tee do.
Vizcaino was 10, Teheran 11.
by frozendesert on Jul 30, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a little nuts
Unless he has the inside track about Arodys’ ability to stick in the starting rotation that all the Braves-specific prospect mavens don’t.
I feel like scouts may have stampeded on Teheran a bit after his two lackluster MLB spot starts. If so, dumb.
Scouts aren't going
to judge a player more harshly after just two starts in the majors. If you and I know that (which we do), professional baseball executives/scouts, who have been around the game much longer, know that too.
Additionally, (not to be offensive, I’m genuinely curious), who are these Braves-specific prospect mavens that you speak of? Our front office has shown that they want Vizcaino to be a starter.
by frozendesert on Jul 30, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
DAMN IT FRANK WREN
Give them Minor and APTBNL and get this over with! Nobody likes MM anyway. Make his ass good for something.
you do know we have NO LH pitcher in the Majors, right?
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 30, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Jason Heyward!
Wait, that meme is over.
by frozendesert on Jul 30, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont see why that is such a big deal
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Starter you mean
And even with all RH starters we’re still pretty damn good.
id much rather have a rhp than lhp
if he is a better pitcher.
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Minus points
For failing to make a The Bourn Ultimatum or The Bourn Objective reference in the thread title.
Q: If not us, who? If not now, when? A: The Batman. And "when you least expect it."
by Lennox on Jul 30, 2011 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If I were Bourn
I would change my first name to Jason. That would be awesome.
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
it should definitely be the bourn ultimatum
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by SouthernPanther on Jul 30, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
lets hope it's not the Bourn identity.
That sounds more like a movie starring Frenchy,,,
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It is almost time for a new info tweet. Every 10 minutes they spread news to toy with us
At the age of six I wanted to be a chef. At seven I wanted to be Napoleon. My ambition has been steadily growing ever since. -Salvador Dali
by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 5:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I feel like punching a hamster in the face. This is pissing me off.
by crimsonqueen9 on Jul 30, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
rosenthal is confusing
he is tweeting that we aren’t in the bourn discussions, then lists us as a team discussing bourn, and then olney tweets we are working hard to get bourn, idk what the hell to think
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Jul 30, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Just shows
that they really don’t know what they’re talking about.
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll catch you cats in the game thread.
Here’s to hoping we know something by then.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Jul 30, 2011 5:46 PM EDT reply actions
I can't wait for tonight's game.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
OT but is anybody else watching this Cards Cubs game
because Holliday took out Castro and that should defintely have been interference
Disagree
He could reach the bag, so it was a ‘legal’ slide
"I still feel like I have something to offer, and the cynical fan can really kiss my ass. I really don’t care. There’s a bunch of true fans and the people who actually want to take the time to get to know me know who I am. The guy who sits in his mom’s basement and types on his mom’s computer, I couldn’t really care less about." - Chipper Jones
See y'all in the game thread.
Got to go take a shower after all this rosterbating!
Martin Prado=MVP!
Well, I’ve been talking about getting this guy for a month. He’s precisely what we need and I pray it gets done.
Although I would like to see an additional move.
If Uggs or Seabass (or god-forbid both) miss some time, who fills in? I know that Martin would play second. But does anyone really wanna see Brooks in the field in October?
I was hoping for Aviles, but he went to Boston. Let’s hope for a strong middle infielder that can take Diory’s place.
I might hurt an elderly person...
jcflash5 John Carrano
Michael bourn to #Nationals for Drew Storen is probable now. #Astros
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My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Putting pressure on Atlanta
Makes sense….and who is John Carrano?
"I still feel like I have something to offer, and the cynical fan can really kiss my ass. I really don’t care. There’s a bunch of true fans and the people who actually want to take the time to get to know me know who I am. The guy who sits in his mom’s basement and types on his mom’s computer, I couldn’t really care less about." - Chipper Jones
No idea, but anything like this even if fake is pissing me off.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
That’s totally not true. The Astros would want waaay more than that
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn
At the age of six I wanted to be a chef. At seven I wanted to be Napoleon. My ambition has been steadily growing ever since. -Salvador Dali
by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 6:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that makes no sense
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
i don't buy this one bit
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Jul 30, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
por fauxfrankwren
Rival exec: #Braves have six untouchables, not previously reported four. Will make it tough to get #Astros’ Bourn.
Prolly
We need a replacement for Gonzo next year.
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It could go the other way. The team could think Lipka is untouchable and the future SS.
by drumzalicious on Jul 30, 2011 6:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He may be our solution at SS in 2012 and maybe 2013, but I think Lipka and Simmons are more likely to be long-term options with Pastornicky evolving into a utility guy.
by ducheneaux13 on Jul 30, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda this. I think Lipka will make his way to CF, Simmons may or may not pan out, Salcedo at 3B or SS, and Pastornicky holds down the utility spot, maybe taking over for Uggla when that contract’s up and he’s arb-eligible.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Salcedo is already a 3B...
or at least so it seems. he’s been there exclusively for months in Rome, even when Lipka wasn’t there.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 31, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
LaRussa: “[Corey Patterson]’s got the talent to be a No. 1 hitter.” CP’s career OBP is .291. #Genius"
Rosenthals comments on 6 untouchables
Bears no weight with me..notice the key words “rival exec” cited as his source..just because we wouldn’t give the mets the farm for Beltran doesn’t mean we wouldn’t give up a different piece in a deal for a CF like Bourn who isn’t just a rental..jusss sayin
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
by SidFreeman on Jul 30, 2011 6:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Great point! You may have just talke me off the ledge! Heh
At the age of six I wanted to be a chef. At seven I wanted to be Napoleon. My ambition has been steadily growing ever since. -Salvador Dali
by Kushagi on Jul 30, 2011 6:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh you and your rationalizing…
K/W Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by your closer when effect is active. The way in which these runs are surrendered is the variable and is everchanging.
by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Jul 30, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
No way was he going to give up those 6 guys to a team in the division either….sometimes these “professional” reporters don’t rationalize their reports
"I still feel like I have something to offer, and the cynical fan can really kiss my ass. I really don’t care. There’s a bunch of true fans and the people who actually want to take the time to get to know me know who I am. The guy who sits in his mom’s basement and types on his mom’s computer, I couldn’t really care less about." - Chipper Jones
Minor for Bourn seems like a pretty fair deal either way
And if Wren was willing to part with Minor (according to sources) in the Pence deal….then why in the hell would he not give him up for Bourn? Fits exactly what we need, better defender, and 39 friggen stolen bases….I’m completely baffled at the way Wren operates sometimes.
"I still feel like I have something to offer, and the cynical fan can really kiss my ass. I really don’t care. There’s a bunch of true fans and the people who actually want to take the time to get to know me know who I am. The guy who sits in his mom’s basement and types on his mom’s computer, I couldn’t really care less about." - Chipper Jones
yeah I agree
Hoarding to this degree is deranged…
Minor + minor prospects is fair considering what the Astros need for their future
All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,
by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT
by Santaklose11 on Jul 30, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't think Wren is deranged
Based on the other offers he made on other deals
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
at this point from what i have heard him supposedly reject
one gets the impression that he thinks Minor is the second coming of Cy Young himself
All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,
by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT
by Santaklose11 on Jul 30, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd give up minor or delgado with lesser prospects in a heartbeat for bourn
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Jul 30, 2011 6:14 PM EDT reply actions
and it would be fair
For Atlanta:
Bourn > Minor + C prospects
because we are 9 deep in SP and in dire need of a CF for now
For Houston
Minor + C prospects > Bourn
because they have almost 0 pitching depth and Minor and Cosart could anchor their rotation in the future
Both teams know this…so I don’t know why they are being so damn stubborn about it
All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,
by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT
by Santaklose11 on Jul 30, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s the thing: It’s not like the second-tier of pitching prospects are scrubs.
With the exception of Cosart, Perez, Hoover, Oberholtzer, and Clemens could each be considered the best pitcher in the Astros farm, if they were traded today.
Outside of Lyles, who’s doing decent in the bigs, and the recently-acquired Cosart, they don’t have much. Their other top pitching prospects, Foltynewicz and Bushue, are playing relatively poorly in A ball. Aneury Rodriguez made it to the show and hasn’t done well. Keuchel’s been okay in his second AA stint, but can’t strike anyone out at that level. Arguello’s been put into the bullpen.
Everyone says Minor for Bourn is fair, but that’s pushing it even at this time of year. Two months from now, there’s no chance that Houston gets that good of a deal. Minor will out-WAR Bourn during his minimum salary years, let alone the three discounted arbitration years.
The top four aren’t a necessity to get this deal done, and I don’t expect Wren to ship one out.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
this is getting painful
Frankly i either want this trade to happen or at least for it to be dead. This limbo is just to much to deal with
maybe the quiet before the storm
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Jul 30, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Pull the trigger or don’t. It’s not all that complicated…
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Orioles are looking to move D-Lee
/smh…
K/W Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by your closer when effect is active. The way in which these runs are surrendered is the variable and is everchanging.
by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Jul 30, 2011 6:23 PM EDT reply actions
Willingham still available
in case deal falls through. Hooray. I’m so dang excited now. Can’t ya tell…
I'm so dang excited now. Can't ya tell...
ftfy
K/W Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by your closer when effect is active. The way in which these runs are surrendered is the variable and is everchanging.
by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Jul 30, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
to be honest
The only outfielders i will be happy with at this point are bourn and upton. Anything else would be majorly disappointing
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
Who is your preference
between the two?
Dale Murphy should be a hall of famer!
by medlenisking on Jul 30, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely Bourn
Higher average. Better attitude. Better name. He’s got it all.
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry but there is no better name than
“Bossman Junior” Upton
"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard"
by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jul 30, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone care to inform me
Why we haven’t heard about a bullpen arm?
by drumzalicious on Jul 30, 2011 6:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
We found our star
His name is Scott Proctor.
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
that is a good laugh
All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,
by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT
by Santaklose11 on Jul 30, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Of slip and slide fame
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
Thinking about options from within, would be my guess.
"Baseball is the only place in life where a sacrifice is really appreciated."
you mean Vizcaino
All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,
by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT
by Santaklose11 on Jul 30, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah my b. All this rosterbating has me tired
by Theo Williams on Jul 30, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I keep seeing Vizcaino in our bullpen during September…but he’s not on the 40-man yet, so maybe not.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I could just as easily be Teheran and Minor since they are on the 40-man.
by ducheneaux13 on Jul 30, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Per Bowman:
#Braves players getting anxious too. Some say Upton is the best fit. A few like Bourn. All polled said they want a reliever
"Baseball is the only place in life where a sacrifice is really appreciated."
Why does Upton fit better than Bourn?
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
I’d assume Powah, honestly you cant go wrong with either, Upton probably just cost more due to upside
Also it appears the players know that Proctor sucks, good for them
Thanks, Jay.
I’m comparing them right now, Upton is two years younger and has an infinite amount of homers compared to Bourn. I see what they’re getting at. But the thing that throws me is the guy’s BA/OBP. Talk about slumping. He’s not much better than half our team.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
mlbbowman Mark Bowman
#Braves players getting anxious too. Some say Upton is the best fit. A few like Bourn. All polled said they want a reliever.
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Jul 30, 2011 6:36 PM EDT reply actions
clearly we are both over-anxiously updating twitter
haha
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Jul 30, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Alternate viewpoint from DOB
After getting their hopes up about Hunter Pence, #Braves players showing guarded optimism about Bourn rumors. But they want him.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
Good to hear.
I heard something about Bourn and Heyward played together back in the day?
Although Bourn is 7 years older, idk.
Anyone know anything of this?
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Didn’t Bourn play with Carl Crawford?
"You come at the king, you best not miss."
by a hooter's baby on Jul 30, 2011 7:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Willingham is back to being fair game
per Olney
K/W Effect: any current lead is equal to or less than the amount of runs surrendered by your closer when effect is active. The way in which these runs are surrendered is the variable and is everchanging.
by Kolb-Wickman Effect on Jul 30, 2011 6:38 PM EDT reply actions
Rather him be foul.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed.
I don’t even want us to be tempted to make that move…
by Clemson Caniac on Jul 30, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Good to see
Red_DMartin Daniel Martin
Source: Atlanta’s interest in Bourn has sky-rocketed as the day as moved forward. They really, really want him. Expect to see him dealt.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Who is this source?
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
Out of curiousity
how do you block quote like this?
by Clemson Caniac on Jul 30, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s the " option in post a reply. You put everything in between
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
whoa that was way too fucking easy. Thanks guys.
by Clemson Caniac on Jul 30, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we quote you on that?
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
Someone call Joan Allen
She caught Bourne once. She can do it again.
Almost time to migrate over to game thread
got to get the W. then tell the players after teh game. Come on Wren do it
by Delaware Boiler on Jul 30, 2011 6:43 PM EDT reply actions
ajcbraves David O’Brien
The general reaction from current Braves when they hear there are 4 or even 6 “untouchable” prospects is rolled eyes or surprise.
How could it be both rolled eyes and surprise?
by Gene_Parmesan on Jul 30, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Better than rolled ankles and more time on the DL.
Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.
I take anything DOB says with the grainest of salts
when it comes to player reactions
Agree
Feel like DOB is not one for the “scoops” or giving honest player opinions
Its easy to react like that as a player. Wren has to figure out how to stay within
an 85 million dollar budget and still be competitive for the next 5 years with a team like the Phillies and their 180 mill payroll. Hanson or JJ are gonna walk in like 3 years and one of these untouchables need to be able to step in
Gamethread is up
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
I hope Wade isn't reading any of this
otherwise they’ll drive the price up
if the braves aren’t even willing to part with a 20 year old catching prospect, there’s no way they’re going to make a deal with anyone for anyone of significance. so dumb.
by michaeldlee1480 on Jul 30, 2011 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
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