Braves Disable Brian McCann, Likely To Disable Jordan Schafer
by gondeee on Jul 27, 2011 12:43 PM EDT
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PrintIt was pretty much official last night that the Atlanta Braves were going to place catcher Brian McCann on the disabled list with a strained left oblique muscle. The Gwinnett Braves are reporting that catcher J.C. Boscan has been promoted to the Majors, but that outfielder Wilkin Ramirez has also be recalled to the Majors (barely a day after being sent down when Chipper Jones was activated from the disabled list).
There is no word yet from the Braves, but the best guess is that Jordan Schafer will be placed on the disabled list with a jammed finger he suffered sliding head-first into a base. Schafer was also hit on the wrist by a pitch last night in the umpteenth inning. The combination of those two injuries could be forcing the Braves to disable him. With Schafer's unfortunate history of wrist injuries, let's hope this one is not too serious. There is a possibility that Chipper Jones could go back on the disabled list, but Schafer is the more likely candidate.
The loss of McCann is the big blow, though a quality backup catcher like David Ross should help lessen the impact. With Schafer also hitting the DL, the Braves may have a greater sense of urgency to make a big trade before Sunday's 4pm trade deadline.
UPDATE 4:05pm
Mark Bowman confirms via Twitter that Jordan Schafer has indeed been placed on the DL, and Wilkin Ramirez recalled in his place.
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I don't think the Braves have a choice.
How can they not make a move with McCann injured, Chipper gimpy, Schafer injured, and some other hitters struggling?
They are only 3.5 games up the WC. That’s not a comfortable lead at all.
The question is not should the Braves make a move, but who should they bring in? While we need to make a move, I don’t want the Braves to overpay out of desperation. Hopefully, they won’t.
I’m still hoping for A. Jones (only because you mentioned him yesterday, not because I feel he’s available), Bourn, Rasmus, Beltran, or Upton (in that order). I don’t trust Upton, but he’s better than we have right now…
Also, obviously, we need bullpen relief. Badly.
This will be a fun week!
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
If Rasmus is available at the reported price...
Wren should be on the phone asap to see if he can swipe the kid before it becomes official. At the reported price, Minor, Hoover, and Gearrin would be just as good a package if not better.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be bloody ridiculous if that Wren could pull it off.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Jul 27, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
chipper should be fine in a couple of days
Ross while not Mac, is still pretty good that we dont need to make a knee jerk reaction.
Chipper should have been fine two days ago...
he can’t be relied on, same as so many others. So a redundant addition to the lineup isn’t a bad idea if they can produce since it seems doubtful we’ll have a full compliment of players the rest of the way.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Blows...
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Jul 27, 2011 1:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
TOO LATE!!!
11:35am: A trade of Rasmus to the Blue Jays for Jackson, Dotel, and Rzepczynski is imminent, reports Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. He says an announcement could come early this afternoon.
It just gets worse and worse!
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope this turns out like Ludwick...
a player and price I’m shocked we didn’t jump in on and top. At least Ludwick didn’t turn in to much of a miss. Hopefully Rasmus is the same, but damn, that hurts if we could have had him for say Minor, Gearrin, and another. I think the Cards’ playoff desires make the package need to be MLB ready and without learning curve, but I’d think the young, cost controlled nature would suit them needing to pay Pujols.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
The Jays also traded away Frasor for Edwin Jackson
Just what do they think they are doing, contending???
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well they are flipping Jackson in the deal. They basically did all these moves to end up with a cost controlled quality CFer.
But they had Wells!
/runs away
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
And Rios
Anthropolous is looking like the shrwedest GM in the business right now.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
I don’t think he’s going to be that cheap. TOR had to give up Frasor and a good prospect, plus take on salary ($7.2m) to get Jackson to flip him. If you add up all the pieces, it probably isn’t a deal that the Braves could have afforded.
Minor is
way better than Jackson. There isn’t a GM out there who would want two months of Jackson over 6 years of Minor. We wouldn’t have needed Jackson to complete this deal.
by frozendesert on Jul 27, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Rasmus is overrated especially by us, but getting him for basically 3 relievers plus a starter who might well become a reliever is ridiculous (Stewart).
And taking a $7.2m hit by taking on Teahen, who is a negative fWAR player for the last 2 years. So that is basically writing a $7m check unless he somehow turns it around. Apparently money between TOR and STL is also being worked out – not sure which way it goes.
Well let’s see how much money St. Louis gets but obviously the Braves didn’t need to make the initial trade for an asset.
Right, just saying that the $7m has value that you can convert into comparable value in terms of prospects. It gives you an idea of the overall ‘price’ that TOR had to pay to get Rasmus. Looks like TOR might be taking on a few bad (but small) contracts from SLT, too.
If we had wanted to deal,
there was no way we needed Jackson to do it. So the price of acquiring Jackson is a moot point.
by frozendesert on Jul 27, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
SLT needed a starting pitcher and relievers. It would have been a very difficult trade to engineer (obviously would need to do a 3-way trade with someone), especially when we can’t give up any relief pitching and can’t take on any salary.
Why
‘obviously’? Are you telling me we don’t have a surplus of pitchers?
by frozendesert on Jul 27, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
2 months of Edwin Jackson
is worth less than 6 years of a top-20 SP prospect in the minors. That’s undeniably true.
by frozendesert on Jul 27, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
SLT was not going to take Minor. It would have taken a proven starter (Jackson is having a very good year, too). So in a sense, it would have taken Jackson or a starter of that quality.
JJ for Rasmus+?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOO
Beltran is not going to the Rangers, tweets Rosenthal. The Giants are his presumed frontrunner.
Giants starter Jonathan Sanchez could go to the Mets as part of a Beltran trade, tweets Sherman.
That is very bad news. This is just an awful week to be a Braves fan.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 1:04 PM EDT reply actions
Rosenthal said no Rangers?
I guess that means Beltran for Profar.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Really Wren has had a awful year in general. However, refusing to trade away top prospects for rentals is not part of his numerous bad decisions lately.
For rentals, I agree. Flat out refusing to trade them? That’s a bad decision.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is that awful news?
Because the Giants got him instead of us?
There are better options out there.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
May get him...
It’s not a done deal. I know.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
It’s awful because the Mets get Sanchez.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the Mets
I’ll believe they can develop a young arm the next time they do and his name isn’t Nolan Ryan.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Sanchez is kind of already developed.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
then they'll overwork and injure him like they have all the rest
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Rasmus to the Jays is "imminent"
Says MLBTR. Edwin Jackson/Octavio Dotel/Marc Rzepeczynski is the rumored deal.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
I know I know
We could get Mike and Arodys to platoon in center and Julio and Randall can platoon in left or third, hell one could even catch.
War Eagle
if this is true, looks like Beltran will end up in SF
#SFGiants are willing to include Gary Brown in Beltran deal, source says. Could be key development.
I thought Ramirez had to stay in AAA for 10 days?
I thought there was a rule that player has to stay in the minors for at least 10 days after he’s been sent down? I guess I was wrong. If he did have to stay down, I imagine Matt Young would be back up.
Unless a player goes on the DL in the meantime
so there is an exception to the rule in cases of injury.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
I thought that had some sort of injury stipulation?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, this.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Jul 27, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
No, there is no rule
As long as a guy is in options, you can call him up and send him back down as many times as you want.
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
If were gonna look at Bourn please tell me we've checked in on Span too..
we were wanting a Righty..but if were interested in lefty CF..Span hits for better average and actually does really well against lefties..OBP is good and walks-stikeouts are neutral and low..span doesn’t have the same speed bourn does..but still quick. just a thought.
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I like the Span idea as well. They have Ben Revere who is otherwise blocked, and the Twins are always looking for ways to build their team with young, cost-controlled players. I think a package centered around Minor would work.
by ducheneaux13 on Jul 27, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Span's on the DL
Concussion. Hasn’t appeared in a game since June 6. He’s currently on a rehab assignment and the Twins are thinking they will recall him next week. But we’ve all seen way too many players who had a concussion put back in the lineup before they are ready. It’s not clear to me that Span is going to be able to make a contribution during the remainder of this season.
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
Wow, teams are starting to make moves and we are still sitting here not doing anything. Looks like we aren’t getting Beltran
/Panics
Old Hoss is ready.
I don't think we were really ever in on beltran just gauging the market on him..JMHO.
I say this and all the sudden Wren will pull a rabbit out of his hat and send the mets skip caray and a sack of peanuts for beltran and $32 million. Beltran also didn’t fit in our plans in the OF as I don’t think the Braves will send Heyward down to regain swing..and we really need a CF.
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
According to MLBTR, the Mets asked for Teheran, Delgado, Vizcaino and Minor (not all at once) and we shot each one down.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
tells me we were gauging the market..see if he could be had for maybe some B or C+ prospects..
what you think?
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the Giants were the only team that didn't say no to one of their top prospects going in exchange for Beltran
Phillies, Rangers, and us that we know of for sure all told the Mets there was no way we were trading one of our top guys for someone they wouldn’t get compensation for
I think it’s a good move for the Giants. They’re looking at the possibility of going back to back which would be huge for revenue. I’m glad we didn’t pay that price for Beltran though.
by ducheneaux13 on Jul 27, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
damn.... what am I going to do with my Edwin Jackson Toronto Blue Jays jersey now?
by leedawg on Jul 27, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
LET’S GO PIRATES!!!
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
lol did u hear Skip say something a long the lines of "I hope uggla hits this one right at that little girl.."
it got silent for about 20 seconds..
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THAT would have been the best possible conclusion to that game.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Jul 27, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Still plenty of players available.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Jul 27, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
uh, this
Bourne, Pence, BJ Upton, and Adam Jones all are still available and provide an offensive upgrade. I’m partial to Adam Jones if we don’t land Pence; he hits for power, decent average, and is right handed, though he hits righties better than lefties, unfortunately. The point is that even without Beltran, we’ve still got lots of options here.
by crimsonqueen9 on Jul 27, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That's it...
Time to trade the farm for Matt Kemp.
And by farm, I mean a literal farm. Real estate’s booming these days. Right?
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
Given their current state, the Dodgers have to listen, right?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It's cost controlled...
And will provide condiments for Dodger Dogs for years to come.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
So I see this as options in no particular order..
Span(if available), Bourn, Upton, Kemp, might even throw Bourjos out there too.. I trust Wren to make a trade thats gonna suit our needs.
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We just DL’d Bourjos. We don’t need 2 guys like that on the roster.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jul 27, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
They activated Borjous last weekend
He played last night, 2 for 4 with a triple. However, the Angels are still in contention, so I doubt they’d trade him.
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
hey, look on the bright side
Better than him going to the Phillies
by crimsonqueen9 on Jul 27, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
On the other bright side, we didnt give up good prospects for a player that we really dont want. A 2 month rental with no compensation? Why are people so upset about not getting him. I understand being upset we haven’t made a move, but we can do better than a guy with questionable knees that only wants to play a position we have covered already. Also remember who holds the checkbook, I dont expect much if we do make a move.
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My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
by Bronn on Jul 27, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is clealry OT
But then, so is most of the rosterbation happening here.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Wow...
Thanks for ruining Necessary Roughness for me…now, how am I supposed to spend the rest of my summer?
The formula for Psych
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