When Lugo Slid!
by gondeee on Jul 27, 2011 10:05 AM EDT
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PrintJerry Meals made the blown call of the year in the 19th inning of last night's Pirates - Braves game, possibly equaling the Jim Joyce blown call from the Armando Galarraga blown perfecto. I wonder if Meals will cry when Clint Hurdle hands him the lineup card before today's game. Actually, I would not be surprised to see Hurdle thrown out of the game before it even starts.
Photo from @fauxfrankwren.
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If anyone ever bitches about Paul Emmels and the NLDS again, I’ll remind you all of this moment.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (this wasn't the playoffs ;)
haha. you’re a riot, you Gigantes fan, you.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
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Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
he was still out
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Game in July
Game in the NLDS. A little different circumstances, chief.
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
Regardless of the circumstances, my point is that every team gets bitten by bad calls, and every team gets the benefits of bad calls. Sometimes it works out brilliantly for your team (because the game might still be going on had it not), and other times it stings. It’s important, at those times, to take the long view and remember that for whatever reason, these things tend to even out. You live to fight another day.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Let's people use the 'Meals on Wheels' joke for this
Still?…
you're not defending him are you?
are you his mom?
by toppleprone on Jun 7, 2011 9:43 PM EDT
Ok
That’s the way I tend to see things. I just didn’t know what you were trying to get at. Just more proof that baseball needs replay and the more that Selig refuses to believe it, the more I think he is doing it just to be contrarian.
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
Oh, absolutely. I think replay should be much more prevalent. I’d rather get it right and see a call go against my team than to benefit from a bad call.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Depends on how the overruling system went. If it has to be conclusive as in football it might not have gotten overturned because there was one angle that definitely wasn’t clear-cut and the call on the diamond was safe.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
maybe
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
then we're in agreement
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't like guns
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Awwwwwww. Good stuff.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Strange isn't it?
maybe we can use knives, or throw eggs and the messiest one is the loser.
Also, thanks for telling my lazy butt what the npr station is around here. I know I could have spent two seconds and looked it up any time in the past year +, but I’m lazy and haven’t. It felt great driving in to work Monday morning, listening to NPR for the first time in 2 years.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m glad to be of service. You can see a map depicting all of Georgia’s member stations at Georgia Public Broadcasting’s website.
I should point out, because I’m a nerd, that the map doesn’t show WABE, Atlanta. That’s because WABE isn’t part of GPB; it’s an independent station licensed to the city’s board of education.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
and now you know
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
You can always just see who rosterbates hardest..
first to pass out loses…
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on Jul 27, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
He's never in those threads...
so my extra practice time would triumph
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I bet TL2 is a hardcore closet rosterbator...
I put my money on him.
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on Jul 27, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I dislike rosterbation. I can’t get worked up over player trades and destinations, because I don’t make any of those decisions. Why would I bother arguing with someone over Beltran’s wOBA HOOPEE, PHLEGM or whatever if I ain’t the one signing the guy? Let Frank (or whomever the respective GM is) sort it out.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
I guess you aren’t a complete dork. Only partial. lol
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a feeling you’ve been waiting for this moment TL2…
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
lol
nice pic, btw
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 10:22 AM EDT reply actions
hilarious picture...
and I’ve been watching the replay… Meals looked to be right on it and while Lugo “looked out” I can’t say that the catcher applied the tag… there are spot where he may have… but why the HELL did he ole the freakin’ tag… Why not just put the mitt in Lugo’s chest?
Even as a biased Braves fan, if I were the Pirates, I would be pissed at the catcher. I’m just sayin’. He could have eliminated question by not swiping the tag on him….
Also, why would meals call him safe before he hit the plate… that was pretty hilarious.
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
Why do people say before he hit the plate?
when he pops up, his foot is clearly on the plate before retouching it.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
The Ole' tag is for other bases not home plate.
Depending on how the Pirates teach their catchers, they may tell them to sweep tag. I still think that if the guy is sliding into you, you put the tag right in their chest. I cringe everytime I see a catcher swipe tag because its just poor form.
That looks like the Little Pigs BBQ in Asheville, NC.
Been meaning to try it out sometime.
it’s a shame that the game ended like it did. I want a win as much as the next fan, but not like that…
I'll take a win...
any way I can get it.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
i love some little pig
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
My girlfriend, who is from Asheville, confirms that this is the case.
by Ivan the Great on Jul 27, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, thats it. littlepigsbbq.net
I think I’m going to go there this afternoon for lunch.
AND i will ask for the Jerry Meals’ special.
Good to see some WNC Braves fans around on TC!
by Ivan the Great on Jul 27, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I was a “Floridiot” that moved here last year. I cannot express the happiness I have found with every single game on tv each night. I was stuck with Marlins and Rays in FL, and for some effed up reason when the Braves played in Miami the game would be blacked out. I lived 2hrs from Miami..
Alot of people take living in Braves country for granted… I may be in Colorado next year and I am already dreading going back to crappy p2p feeds (because i am cheap).
Well....
it looked to me like he actually swiped the plate, and just did the little two step to touch it because he wasn’t sure if he did. Meals probably did see him swipe it with his foot.
I’m going with Rob Neyer on this one: Meals could have been right.
No way is that the worst call I’ve ever seen.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Yea
I’m not sure why people are saying it’s the worst call ever. I’ve seen many worse ones. Joyce’s from last year was much worse, IMO.
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
Joyce’s call was worse
because of the circumstance.. but this one was pretty bad… maybe the ‘’swipe tag’’ might have deceived him… but i think that’s just his excuse….
the exponent in the equation is a matter of preference and "fit" it can vary depending on what the user believes to yield the curve that best predicts a team’s ability to win games.
by Ivan the Great on May 20, 2011 12:31 PM VET
He blew so many last night, this is just one that went our way at an opportune time.
~ "The NL - where our pitchers do more than just play with their balls." ~
This.
"I’ll tell you one thing: The grass at Tiger Stadium tastes best."
by LesMilesEatsGrass on Jul 27, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Please Stop the Bias....!
Lugo was Out….! it worked out for us… we won the game.. please let’s not get into Mistery Angles and Phantom tags…. Obviously Meals was tired and blew the call…..
the exponent in the equation is a matter of preference and "fit" it can vary depending on what the user believes to yield the curve that best predicts a team’s ability to win games.
by Ivan the Great on May 20, 2011 12:31 PM VET
Show me the angle that shows his glove touching Lugo's leg
cause I haven’t seen it. It looks close, and he swipes near Lugo’s leg. But nothing has shown definitively that his glove touched the leg. If he held it there, instead of swiping, Lugo’s out. Blame the C, not the ump.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
just like Posey
the exponent in the equation is a matter of preference and "fit" it can vary depending on what the user believes to yield the curve that best predicts a team’s ability to win games.
by Ivan the Great on May 20, 2011 12:31 PM VET
Seen that shot
can’t tell the glove is actually on the leg or not
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
that word sounds so dirty
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Weird fact: It’s actually doppelganger. It always trips me up. It really should be dopple, but it isn’t.
by Ivan the Great on Jul 27, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s pretty damning. Looks like one of the fingers of his glove is on this side of his leg while the rest of the glove is on the other side of his glove…
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Never saw that before
OK, I’m a believer now. He was 100% out.
you're not defending him are you?
are you his mom?
by toppleprone on Jun 7, 2011 9:43 PM EDT
I’m just saying, while we don’t have a glove stain on his leg or anything, if he didn’t actually touch him then it’s a miracle and an unlikely one even by miracle standards.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
http://i.imgur.com/F9PMf.png
Taken a split second after that one. The spot that appears to be the catchers mitt on the inside of Lugo’s leg is still there. Meaning it is dirt, a shadow, something other than catchers mitt.
This could be it.
It looks as though McKenry’s glove is bent back slightly by the impact with Lugo’s leg. But it’s not the clearest of images.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
even that is only a split second in time...
why didn’t the numb nuts catcher keep his glove down and firmly apply the tag? He could have eliminated this whole discussion…
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on Jul 27, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
The thing is though
If we’re talking about 100% indesputable, irrefutable proof, I don’t think this does it. If the throw doesn’t beat Lugo by half the basepath, then people wouldn’t be as up in arms as they are. And as Klemson said, why on earth would the catcher try the swipe tag? That was moronic.
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
They were saying over at MCC that McKenry is the seventh catcher the Pirates have used this year. I wonder if that had something to do with it.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Haha well what do you think
the chances are that they soon find number 8?
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
or it could be curled as he holds the ball
image is inconclusive
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
This is exciting. I feel like this is a scene from the Warren Commission investigation.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
back, and to the left
back, and to the left
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well the definitive thing for me...
…is that Lugo himself knew he was out. He was clearly as shocked as anybody at the safe call. So was the catcher — he was already looking around to see where else he needed to throw the ball (had Proctor even gotten vertical by that point???).
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
This
This is the only reason I think he’s out. I haven’t seen a video or picture that was inconclusive, but the fact that Lugo pretty much was on his way back to the dugout tells me he was out.
you're not defending him are you?
are you his mom?
by toppleprone on Jun 7, 2011 9:43 PM EDT
It could be...
that he expected to be called out, because the ball got there in plenty of time, and usually that gets you the call. It just so happened, Meals insisted on a tag as well.
It we have to look at frame by frame pictures to see if maybe his glove is slightly bent or leaving a shadow, why is it so hard to give Meals a little bit of slack — he just had a split second to decide.
Here’s a good frame by frame look at the play, btw: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.197222230335726.56505.100001438512984&l=9d62c6f541&type=1
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
No, it's the worst
OMG. Didn’t stay up for the end, but I just watched the replays. Meals called Lugo safe before he stepped on the plate. From the portion of the game I watched, minor league umps could have done a better job. Just terrible.
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
Looked like he might have touched the plate when he was standing and just touched it again for posterity
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
And...
… did Proctor ever actually make it to first base? On one the replays, I saw him fall down coming out of the batter’s box, but then the angle changes and you can’t see what happened after that.
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
Never mind...
I take this last comment back. I just looked at the replay again, and Lugo pops up and touches the plate with his right foot (he’s facing the infield at that point) before Meals makes the call. Still a bad call, though.
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
Proctor's belly flop out the box ranks up there w/ Victorino getting pelted in the head and belly flopping in CF
for Video moments of the year.
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on Jul 27, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I recall the celebratory mob scene in short right field, so somehow he must have gotten that far. I personally never saw him get up.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
Frankly, I thought it was a perfect ending to the game
And I would have thought so even if we’d been playing in PNC and the situation had been exactly reversed.
I can’t really articulate exactly why it was so perfect, but the game itself was such a farce—15 hits, none for extra bases, Pirates girl, cup guy, Freddie Freeman blinking the tiredness out of his eyes over at first, Scott f’ing Proctor pitching three scoreless innings—that any “standard” ending, like a clean base hit, would have somehow felt cheap and inappropriate. To end a truly ridiculous game, you need a truly ridiculous play, and Jerry Meals gave it to us.
by SS451 on Jul 27, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
You get a rec for that!
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
Seconded
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on Jul 27, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Cup guy should have been the fan of the night
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm so gonna do that if I ever get caught in a 19 inning game.
I got Venters fever.
by Cody Arrington on Jul 27, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Due to the overall outcome...
It shall be known as “The Bizarro Game,” as opposed to “The Game from Hell.”
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget Fredi getting tossed
What’s that all about? That never happens.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
You guys are all clearly blind
Because as this irrefutable photographic evidence suggests, Lugo was safe by at least 22.1 miles.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Jul 27, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 8 recs
Epic. Win.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
p.s.
The plate is a symbiotic alien, ie, Spider-Man!
THAT explains it, damn it.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
What are you talking about
It’s a completely unedited regulation 50″ × 50″ home plate.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
By the way, my comment last night was ‘Posey wasn’t even out by that much’.
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
Yea sorry Pirate fans
tell your catcher to not be a pussy and apply the tag, then you’d have a gripe. If there was replay the call would be inconclusive
Okay, time to move on
Is it possible to throw nothing but shutouts for the next 15 days?
by Dr Galakiewicz on Jul 27, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions
Epic Account...
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/7/27/2296935/jerry-meals-pirates-braves-19-innings-blown-call
(It’s all good, but make particular note of the last two items)
"Just take out the whole Tim McCarver part of the broadcast and boom, the director has freed up a whopping 45 minutes of airtime." - Rob Iracane of Yahoo! Sports, 7/13/11
LET'S GO
BRAVOS
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I don't get why...
…some of my fellow Bravos fans are trying to justify this.
It was a terrible call, period. One of the worst ever, even. The ump clearly wanted to go home… so he shouldn’t come back to work ever again.
Trying to justify Lugo being safe is just as shameful as the Braves jumping around as if it were a legitimate victory.
I’m a lifelong Braves fan, but I’m also a lifelong baseball fan. A brilliant game ended by horrible call. It just makes me sad.
by Shawn Hinojosa on Jul 27, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
I think he missed the tag with half ass swipe.
by TCfromDubVee on Jul 27, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
or to have badly stained underwear
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he got him, but Swipe tagging was dumb and the replays dont make it as conclusive as people would think
I wonder...
if McKendry was just expecting Lugo to drop shoulder… if so, he might have been surprised that Lugo tried the slide instead. It’s the sort of brain fade that can happen when you’re playing baseball at 0200. (The same can be said for the ump’s call…)
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
A Win is a Win.
And these things rarely end in our favour. I’ll take it.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
that is a good point, and i’ll certainly take it.
but i find people trying to prove that it wasn’t a blown call is simply idiotic.
(also, i suck at this site and didn’t click reply to TC’s post. my bad. anyway… lugo didn’t think he missed the tag.)
by Shawn Hinojosa on Jul 27, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Your name reminds me of noted public television journalist Maria Hinojosa. Just wanted to throw that out there.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
wish i was related. but all the hinojosa’s in my family are poor texans.
by Shawn Hinojosa on Jul 27, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
(@ #2) Just ignore them. It’s what I do. Take the Win. Everyone is right in their own eyes, but I kind of agree with the ump’s “ole” comment. The tag was too fast, too quick, and an uppercut.
Just tag the guy next time, sans the skyward movement. You’ve got to win a Series before you can start acting like the Yankees.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
That it was a horrible call. I disliked seeing such a memorable game end in such a paper, demeaning victory result.
But what can we do? At least the Braves get a win out of it, and in the history books it’s not going to say “2011 Braves 95-67*
*1 win via 19 inning July game vs. PIT”
So the most I can do with this is laugh about it, because as it’s been pointed out several times, bad calls happen, some worse than others, but until change is made, nothing can go back and change the past.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
The beloved "human element"
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It wasn’t the ideal way to win a ballgame, granted.
But, it wasn’t great having strikes called at our batter’s ankles all night either.
~ "The NL - where our pitchers do more than just play with their balls." ~
EXACTLY
The way the entire game had been going, the odds were stacked against the Bravos because of the differing strike zones for the 2 teams. They were getting ALL the calls. We got none.
To win a game like that is otherworldly. I, like everyone else, figured we were out. Especially with Proctor getting multiple innings.
The irony is that he didn’t just immediately call Lugo out, as it’s what everyone expected.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Should he have been called out based on Meals' viewpoint? Yes.
He wasn’t actually out. There was one camera angle I saw on first take, and his leg really never did not get touched.
I got Venters fever.
by Cody Arrington on Jul 27, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Cry me a river.
Quit acting like you’re the only one whose opinion is worth anything. Look at some of the well researched reasons above for “justifying this” Then, lower yourself from your high horse.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Lugo...
said after the game that he never felt a tag. He just assumed he was out because the umps almost always “automatically” call you out if you are beat by the ball by that much.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I miss Brian McCann…
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
McCann getting injured even for a couple of weeks is a terrible blow for this club.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Without David Ross, I would agree. Let him get an opportunity to get hot. Let Mac get the rehab and he and Chipper can keep each other’s spirits up.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
On the bright side
At least we get that right handed bat we’ve been looking for in the lineup.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Jul 27, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why do I keep hearing "Braves won't trade Julio Teheran" being reported as though that is news?
I mean, giving him up for Beltran would be beyond idiotic.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
I think the Braves use it as a way to weed out ignorant reporters.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Because I'm sure GM's are asking, and reporters are asking.
It’s obvious to all Brave’s fans that he’s not going anywhere, but if you’re not an avid Brave’s fan, people would still be interested.
Would any of us not give him up for Matt Kemp??
I got Venters fever.
by Cody Arrington on Jul 27, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Me. Teheran is going to be cost-controlled, Kemp won’t.
by Ivan the Great on Jul 27, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true.
I would still give up two top guys for an ELITE guy though. Now’s the time with Mac down.
I got Venters fever.
by Cody Arrington on Jul 27, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The pic of proctor
Face planting into the basepath is one of the best results of this crazy game
At the age of six I wanted to be a chef. At seven I wanted to be Napoleon. My ambition has been steadily growing ever since. -Salvador Dali
by Kushagi on Jul 27, 2011 11:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
has the pic?
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
At the link above
On my phone. Bonus points to Anyone who uploads
At the age of six I wanted to be a chef. At seven I wanted to be Napoleon. My ambition has been steadily growing ever since. -Salvador Dali
by Kushagi on Jul 27, 2011 11:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, that slide is just ASKING to be shopped
a la Chris Denorfia at McCovey Chronicles.
by soup du jour on Jul 27, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
That thread=win
you're not defending him are you?
are you his mom?
by toppleprone on Jun 7, 2011 9:43 PM EDT
Do you have links for any other threads like that?
That thread was completely hilarious!
by ChoppingTalk on Jul 27, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
wow. just. wow. Craziest game I’ve ever seen.
Right up there with the walk-off grandslam against the Commies last year.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Picture Caption
“With all the controversy surrounding headfirst slides in the MLB, Scott Proctor could not resist the temptation to try one.”
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
Best. Plank. Ever.
I want Proctor to get the walk off.
by BeatTehMets on Jul 27, 2011 1:00 AM EDT reply actions
by BeatTehMets on Jul 27, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Terry Pendleton
forgot to say “Polo!”
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
you know after looking at the videos of this and slowing it down
I think that the call might… MIGHT have been good
the ump said after the game that he just saw the swipe, not a tag, and looking at the video i agree, the catcher should have planted a tag instead of swiping it
Stop trying to justify it.
I’m a lifelong Brave’s fan, and it was an inexcusable call. He was out, out by a mile, out by a ridiculous amount, and there’s no way that call should have been made.
I’ll take the win, but I hate that we won that way on THAT bad of a call.
Stop telling people to stop "justifying" it.
You seem to have the opinion that if we point out actual evidence that disagrees with the preconceived notion that he was out, we are just being mindless homers or something. I’m a lifelong Braves fan as well, why does that make you right and not me?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Last night...
was on e of those nights where, as someone said to another poster, I read my posts and hit “cancel.” But I was so glad I stayed up and watched that whole game. Will be in Braves (and baseballs) lore forever.
"Baseball is the only place in life where a sacrifice is really appreciated."
I hope some postseason magic will be if nobody else steps up.
I got Venters fever.
by Cody Arrington on Jul 27, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not the worst call ever
You can argue about whether or not he was out, but I don’t think you can say it was the “worst call ever.” There was definitely reasonable doubt about whether the tag was applied, and the fact that Lugo thought he was out shouldn’t affect the umpire’s decision — he can’t wait to see what the players think before making the call. Lugo was most likely out, but the ump didn’t see the tag because it was a quick swipe. It happens all the time.
IMO if you're going to use the reasonable doubt angle about the tag
it should fall in the Pirates favor seeing Lugo looks to be a good 4 foot from touching the plate & he’s sliding into the cather who is in front of the plate. If the ump didn’t see the tag & he’s basing his call on reasonable doubt them odds should be in the Pirates favor that Lugo is being touched somewhere on his body w/that distance being from the plate & the catcher blocking it.
That being said, I’m glad my opinion means squat. Bravo win.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
Like I posted above
Stop trying to justify it. It was a horrible call, and I’ve been watching baseball games for 20+ years religiously, and I’ve never seen one as bad as that. Not in that time. There have been bad calls before, but that was the worst, and it’s not even close.
It was a quick swipe, but you could see where it made Lugo’s uniform ripple.
Again, I’m a Brave’s fan. Been my whole waking life. My brother was watching Brave’s games when I was 5 years old, and I was just realizing who I was watching, and becoming a fan, and so I’ll take the win, but that was BAD. No excuse. It was the worst in my viewing history, and I’ve seen poor calls to.
Oh well...
got you beat. I’ve been watching baseball games for 40+ years “religiously”, and it’s far from the worst call I’ve ever seen, and it’s not even close.
It’s really irritating for you to act like someone doesn’t have any integrity because they see this differently than you.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I just saw a headline where it said the Blue Jays acquired Teahen
and I immediately panicked, thinking “NOOOO! We sent then Teheran?!”
Clearly this trade deadline has me on edge.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
Love it.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Jul 27, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW, this is not mine. I happened upon it.
But I thought I would share it with you. If one of the regulars here is the creator, I just wanted to post it here because I think it is awesome.
thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Cup Boy and his sidekick
Things always get weird when you play 19.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Jul 27, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That guy is a pimp
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Stuff like this
makes me wish Skip Carey was still alive.
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
Great pic!
Love the Little Pigs BBQ shot, from my hometown Asheville,NC.
Hurdle cant hand the lineup to Meals, Meals isnt the home plate ump
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
That's the funniest thing I've seen today
besides Meals explanation about the call “…he grazed his pants ever so slighty….”
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
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