Riggleman quits over contract situation...

The Nats are playing their best baseball in years and their Skipper decides to go out on top?

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the braves should hire him because fredi gonzalez is the worst

by drdonkeypunch on Jun 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions

Dang, these NL East managers are dropping like flies

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by TurnerTheBurner on Jun 23, 2011 5:45 PM EDT reply actions

We can only hope

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by bighop on Jun 23, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Now we just need some dirt on Manuel..Maybe we can convince people that he helped Werth with Utley’s wife?

by GumpBrave on Jun 23, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Future Beench, Assistant Coach? would be quite nice.

I have no idea why he would quit! He had the team looking good, and they have a nice future ahead of them. The next manager for them will be put in a nice position for future success. Just curiousity speaking, but I wonder if he would ever consider being a hitting coach, or if he would even be any good at it? Couldn’t do a worse job then some guy named Larry

by chicagobullies on Jun 23, 2011 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

I love this. Riggleman proved he’s a man. He gave them an ultimatum, they balked, and he did what he said he’d do.

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by cbwilk on Jun 23, 2011 6:53 PM EDT reply actions

Yea, now that’s some hard negotiating.

by GumpBrave on Jun 23, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Hmm

I’ll readily admit that I don’t know the particulars of his situation, but based on what’s been reported I can’t see this being a good thing for him. He’s under contract to manage a team for 2011 but he quits because the team hadn’t yet decided on his option for 2012. If I were an employer in MLB I would certainly think twice about hiring him.

by scstrato on Jun 23, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions

He quit while under contract. He was probably trying to use the teams recent play as leverage, but I can’t see this as a good move for Riggleman. He didn’t really have a choice once he laid his cards on the table. It’s not very tactful..in fact it’s an extremely stupid way to get a contract extension or anything for that matter. You need real leverage when taking a hard stance in a negotiation. Either that or be one of the top people in your position, which he clearly isn’t if we are going by just numbers. I’m sure he deep-sixed any chances of coaching professional baseball. Too bad though because the Nationals were playing better and their future looks really good. Sucks that Riggleman collected a crappy record because he managed some bummy teams, but I can’t say if he is a good or bad manager.

by HI State of Mind on Jun 23, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Well it has been said that he had tried multiple times to talk with Rizzo about his contract the past few months and Rizzo contiously pushed him off, something Riggleman said was disrespectful. It seems like this was a relationship in that the girl (Rizzo) just strung out the guy (Riggleman) and finally Riggleman stepped up and did what he thought he needed to do.

Shark in the water.

by AvoidTheDolphin on Jun 23, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I respectfully disagree. He essentially threw a hissy fit because they didn’t exercise his option for next year. A real man shakes his head, goes out to prove how much of a fool the GM is by helping the team continue to succeed and either winning the day when the option is exercised or making the GM look even dumber when someone else snaps him up come winter. A man does not take the approach of “you either pay me for next year too, or I’m not even giving you this year.” That is what a child does.

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by J-Freak on Jun 24, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions

Looks like a bizarre and absolute career suicide to me. Quitting on your bosses who are paying your salary and your players who are actually doing well and winning on the field is just not going to be very impressive to future employers. Particularly when a very lousy career winning percentage is considered.

Insightful Washington Post article is here.

by fandave on Jun 24, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions

Riggleman proved he's a stupid man. FTFY.

From ESPN.com:

In his career he’s 662-824, a .445 winning percentage. Among the 86 managers who have managed at least 1,400 games in the majors, that winning percentage ranks 84th, ahead of only Patsy Donovan, who was born in Ireland and managed five clubs around the turn of the century, and Billy Barnie, who managed in the 1800s and was nicknamed Bald Billy.

Vastly overvalued his own worth and committed career suicide.

by jtw126 on Jun 24, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Look at the rosters of some of those teams he managed. You can’t make a diamond out of turds.

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by cbwilk on Jun 24, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Joe Pos takes that into account, but in the end his thoughts boil down pretty close to what I said above: Riggleman admittedly was not in the best of circumstances, but that doesn’t excuse him pitching a fit and walking out on his team. Very much worth a read:
http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2011/06/wriggling-for-riggleman.html

by J-Freak on Jun 24, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions