Phillies Spoil Julio Teheran's Debut With 3-0 Shutout of Braves
Julio Teheran's debut didn't end the way Braves fans hoped.
The Braves continue to struggle against Kyle Kendrick and the Phillies spoiled Julio Teheran's major-league debut with a 3-0 shutout.
Teheran proved he had the composure to pitch in the big leagues, but the Phillies were able to capitalize against him when they needed to. In the second inning, he issued a leadoff walk to Ben Francisco and Brian Schneider followed with a single that sent Francisco to third. The Braves tried to turn a double play on Pete Orr with one out, but were unable to and the Phillies scored first.
In his five starts at Gwinnett this year, Teheran had not allowed a home run. That changed in the fourth inning when Ryan Howard took him deep leading off. One out later, Teheran struck out Raul Ibanez for his first major-league strikeout, his only one of the game.
The Phillies ultimately ended Teheran's night in the fifth. With two outs, Jimmy Rollins walked and stole second, his eighth steal of the season. Shane Victorino followed with a deep triple to right to score Rollins and force Teheran from the game.
The Braves offense didn't do much to help its premiering phenom. Dan Uggla doubled with one out in the second, but was left stranded. Freddie Freeman walked to open the fifth, but was erased on a double play. Their best chance to score was in the sixth. Joe Mather doubled leading off the inning and Martin Prado walked against J.C. Romero, but again, the offense didn't capitalize.
The loss snaps a six-game winning streak. Kendrick is now 6-1 in his career against the Braves.
Jurrjens vs. Hamels tomorrow on ESPN.
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i was at a wedding and didn't get to catch Teheran pitch, how'd he look?
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by SouthernPanther on May 7, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
Like a guy with a bright future
"If he is convicted on all counts he faces 80 years. Given his business acumen, however, I’m sure he could talk it down to 95." - Craig Calcaterra on Lenny Dykstra's indictment
Not overly impressive
But he did a pretty good job, all things considered. The Philly hitters were very patient tonight and he was nibbling much of the game. Kept his composure for the most part.
"Is Prince Fielder a legitimate threat to your bag of potato chips?" -Bronn
Me too
Damn wedding made me miss his start and the Derby.
He was clearly pretty nervous and lacked command, but his stuff looked great and he wasn’t afraid to throw any of his pitches on any count. I thought he looked great considering the circumstances. His change-up is is going to be absolutely devastating once he learns not to telegraph it so much.
by get swoll yunel on May 7, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was my first look at his changeup.....
……and devastating is the only word that can be used once he can harness it consistently.
by Undocorkscrew on May 7, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I despise that goblin runt Shane Victorino so much
That it’s almost making my physically ill.
"If he is convicted on all counts he faces 80 years. Given his business acumen, however, I’m sure he could talk it down to 95." - Craig Calcaterra on Lenny Dykstra's indictment
I bet he wears his AFFLICTION shirts under his jersey.
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by The Keith Lockhart Era on May 8, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Victorino rubs me the wrong way as well
but I got to give the devil his due. He is a pretty good ball player, a key contributor to the Phillies, and a formidable adversary. That being said……he must be destroyed (in a baseball kinda way.)
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Just couldn't get our offense going
Against a pretty weak starter and a pretty weak bullpen. Well, you can’t score 5-8 runs every night. Let’s hope they bring the bats tomorrow.
Let's just win the series
And I’ll be happy.
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by Jman781 on May 7, 2011 11:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Teheran did pretty well. It’s the Phillies, they’ve got some good hitters. True, they didn’t have Utley or Ruiz in there tonight, but they did have Howard. He was thrown into the fire and did alright under the pressure. The kid is 19 or 20, right? Coming into the Major Leagues at that age is not an easy task. It was really fun to see him pitch, and I hope he has a bright future in Atlanta.
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by MBL1 on May 7, 2011 11:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
10 comments?
wow people must be busy… Lets try and take the series tomorrow!
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while." - Dave Cameron
Teheran looked
like he needs more time in AAA. His command was off and he got very few swinging strikes.
The Phillies were ready for him and he got hurt when he fell behind. Just like Beechy looked ready last year – composed – Teheran wasn’t. He’s got great stuff and a lot to learn, but this was a valuable learning experience. Let’s not rush him.
Teheran did alright tonight. I honestly had very low expectations given the debuts of Hanson and Medlen. The Phillies hitters realized early on that he couldn’t throw his secondary stuff for strikes and just sat on his fastball which unfortunately he wasn’t locating very well. I think he has a bright future but i would now put his ETA more towards middle of next year. He wasn’t fooling any of the Phillies hitters too much and he got lucky on a few occasions with the wind blowing.
The kid has promise but I feel tonight was kind of a reality check for how far along he actually is.
by drumzalicious on May 8, 2011 12:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Woah Coincidence?
Is it just me or did Beachy go just into the 5th inning at the Phillies, give up three (even though only one of Beachy’s was earned), with one strike out in a losing effort in his debut? I don’t want to say they’re both great after half a year from Beachy and half a game from Teheran, but look at how Beachy’s been since then. Coincidence? Hmmmm……
This experience in invaluable. It sucks that we lost to the Phillies, but unless we’re tossing Teheran out into a pennant race or the playoffs, could he have taken a tougher first start? He’s going back to Gwinnett knowing he took on one of the toughest environments in baseball and held his own. At this point, I don’t really care that we lost. Next time Julio comes up, he’s going to look at the his opposition and think “I’ve seen worse”. We just took one gigantic step towards the future with this game. Also here’s your reality check: he’s 20 and held the Phils to 3 runs when the offense showed zero sign of backing him up. Boom.
by CourtesyLaughs on May 8, 2011 12:42 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree
He’s not the first Braves pitcher to get off to a rocky start. IIRC, a young 21 yr old Glavine was less than stellar when he was called up to the bigs, and he turned out to be pretty good. :) I’m not worried…..
It was also only one game...
you could see the movement he had, if he was locating better. The plan was one game and back to Gwinnett, and he knew it. We may have to wait a while for start #2, especially with Minor probably above him in the current pecking order if it was for more than one night only. It was invaluable experience for Teheran, a learning experience, against a quality, veteran lineup (was anyone under 30?). Go back to AAA and work on what still needs fine tuning, and we’ll see him again soon enough.
I will say though, that knowing he and Minor are as close as they are, I’m more comfortable than ever if I’m Frank Wren, and say a dynamite offer comes in for Jurrjens, or someone is willing to give even a strong reliever or a legit bench bat, to take all of Lowe’s salary.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Come on man
Is anyone that crazy to eat all of Lowe’s salary? Maybe the Yanks but that’s it. We might as well wait until the offseason unless we are blown away by offers
by Braves24 on May 8, 2011 6:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree
The time is now to move JJ.
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Let me clarify
Not today, but maybe this season.
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Unfortunately, I agree
I really like JJ, but with a good offer, Wren probably would have to pull the trigger. Would you rather see JJ go for three very good prospects or someone already established? For someone with JJ’s upside and age, I would expect a lot.
Agreed
Few people sail in their debut and those that do (Kyle Davies comes to mind) aren’t guarranteed anything because of it.
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by Scott Coleman on May 8, 2011 1:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I wasn't too disappointed about Julio, I am concerned about offense.
How many P’s in disappointed? Doesn’t look right to me.. The offense tonight looked like AA level. Yes, there were some hits that the wind kept in the park, but there was to much trying for HR’s than hits, chasing stuff they should have just looked at. I think we should have had at least twice as many walks as we did have. We shouldn’t have been shutout is all I’m saying.
Senator, we have another old saying,"Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." Fletcher
it's one game?
we’ve been averaging the most runs in the majors over the past 14. so we had one hiccup.
Teheran looked just okay
But then again, that’s exactly how he SHOULD look in this particular situation. He was pitching to a very good lineup in a hitter’s park (in Philadelphia, no less).
This starts ultimately says little, except that he isn’t ready yet (which we already knew).
The Phillies aren’t a team to make your debut against.
I had a dream where there was a baseball field of sabermetric statistics and they started canceling each other out.
Tim Lincecum's debut
4.1 IP 5H 5K 5BB 5R against the Phillies…..
by Braves24 on May 8, 2011 8:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Teheran didn’t throw as many strikes as I intended, and he got into a lot of 3-ball counts early on. His curve, when he used it, looked better than Hanson’s. His change-up has a LOT of movement, and his fastball averaged around 93 for him today, tops 95.
I had a dream where there was a baseball field of sabermetric statistics and they started canceling each other out.
Doesn't he have a fourth pitch?
I thought that I remembered reading that he had a slide or cut fast ball…
Kid’s going to be a stud. He commands that fastball well and his secondary stuff looked great last night. He basically made two mistake pitches (Howard’s dinger and Victorino’s Triple). We turn that DP in the third and things might have been better for him. Can’t wait til September when he’s up here for good.
Next year at the earliest…he may be called up a day or two prior to Sept. 1 so he can be on the postseason roster, but he’ll likely be in the pen under those circumstances.
Of course, this is if there isn’t a glut of injuries in the rotation…
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Julio
Pitched well. Dude is 20 and started against the NL-leading Phils.
My question: why does Kendrick own the Braves? Goodness. When I heard Oswalt went on the DL, I was bummed. We have decent numbers against Roy #2, but Kendrick owns us. Now, for an encore, we get Hamels. Yay.
OT: In other news, Verlander with another no hitter. He’s filthy.
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With Teheran, his hall mark is his command. He didn’t have it last night, but that will not always be the case. It’s hard for any pitcher to be effective when constantly down in the count, and especially hard for one that relies on a change up that dies out of the zone.
When he’s able to get his fastball to hit the corners, opposing batters are going to be much more willing to offer at the change.
The only flaw I really saw was the curve, which he was tipping a bit. Still, he’ll freeze a lot of batters with three pitches that go 77 – 84 – 94.
Teheran held red hot Phillies to just 3 runs, in their park for his ML debut as a Brave.
That’s how I choose to look at his outing last night.
I thought the kid did amazingly well considering the scenario in which we put him in to make his ML debut. He wasn’t in command of all his pitches, but I thought he kept his composure and pitched out of situations that could have made the score last night much worse. I’m happy for him and think we’ll be celebrating his wins very soon.
Too bad our offense decided they still can’t hit Kendrick… 6-1, geez.
We handle aces on teams but pitchers like him make our lineup look like rookies sometimes and last night was no exception. The only thing I fear us facing more than this kind of pitcher is one we’ve never seen before. Our impatience at the plate (especially with runners on ) last night was pathetic.
Hopefully tonight JJ will lead us in a victory to take the Series. And, doing so IN Philly will make it even sweeter :-)
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
:)
We only got to use 1K last night – but we’re ready for his next time in the bigs.
Those that asked what the graphic would be, this was it: (thanks for all the suggestions beforehand)

"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
That's awesome. Don't worry
You should be using that graphic a lot for a long time
by Braves24 on May 8, 2011 1:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
JT fell behind in the count too much
Not sure how much he missed by from my 2nd deck seats. Braves hit the ball hard but right at people. Bullpen did pretty well. Sherrill might not be that bad…ok, he did gave me a ball yesterday.
by LEastCoastBears on May 8, 2011 10:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Teheran
was impressive, but the phillies could have put me on the mound and beat the Braves last night. Lets get them today!
Was at the game
Wasn’t suprizingly loud. Of course the PA announcer pronounced it te-hay-ron. No one in the park had any idea who he was, or that he was only 20. From my view up top, didn’t seem as commanding as I’d hope, but since he’s only 20, it’s understandable.
Let’s hope next outing is more dominant.
I don't know shit about baseball.
by oVecKid on May 8, 2011 11:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Per the AJC, Teheran's comments after the game:
JULIO TEHERAN (with Eddie Perez translating)
On the experience:
"It was the best moment of my life, being here in the big leagues."
On if amped up in the early innings:
"The first hitter, I wasn’t nervous but I was excited about facing a big league hitter, in the middle of that I was trying too much."
On if he’s hungrier to get back now:
"Yes. I’m anxious to get back here again."
On if family saw back in Colombia:
"Yeah they were watching me at home."
On if a difference in strike zone vs. Triple-A:
"I see the difference as a rookie, it’s going to be a close call, a small zone, but I’m OK."
On the pitch to Howard:
"I tried to go outside and I missed my spot."
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
You have to love
His intelligence and his self possession. He’s got a great future ahead of him.
"If he is convicted on all counts he faces 80 years. Given his business acumen, however, I’m sure he could talk it down to 95." - Craig Calcaterra on Lenny Dykstra's indictment
Meh..
Teheran pitched well enough. Still think he’s our future ace. Offense failure last night. I gotta keep it in perspective. It broke a long win streak. Braves are doing fine. Hope we take the series tonight. Even if we don’t, we’ll be fine. I hope we “Canseco” one off of Dicktorino’s forehead for a home run tonight. Go Braves!
by Frozen Fan on May 8, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not a good idea
To put this young pitcher into his first big league game against the Phillies. Better to boost his confidence by putting him in against a weaker lineup IMO.
Teheran is still a beast
Teheran is going to be the best ATL Braves minor league pitcher ever but needs to stay at AAA this season and continue to learn his craft. After watching him last night he needs some slight work on his breaking pitches, and learning to be aware of pitch counts. Still he made only one bad pitch and that was to R. Howard so while we may see him in ATL uni before this season is over such as if we decide to trade D. Lowe or if god forbide our rotation gets hit with the injury bug but in all likely hood I would like it for the kid to remain in the minors for the remainder of this season.
Either way Teheran is going to be in our starting rotation in 2012 so see ya D. Lowe hopefully the bars, drinks, and speed racing on highways is just as good in other MLB cities as they are here in ATL.
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