Braves vs. Brewers Series Recap - How Sweep It Is
by Scott Coleman on May 6, 2011 8:00 AM EDT
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PrintI usually like doing the whole, "good, bad, and ugly" thing in these recaps, but to be perfectly honest, there wasn't much that was ugly or even bad. The Braves pitched well, the Braves hit well, and the Braves fielded well. Simply put, this team is playing their best baseball of the season. So here was all of the good from this week's sweep over the Brewers.
The Good:
Starting Pitching - Jair Jurrjens, Tim Hudson, Tommy Hanson, and Brandon Beachy combined to put up this line in their four starts: 28.2IP, 15H, 4ER, 4BB, 26K. That's incredible. The Brewers have three all-stars in their lineup (Weeks, Braun, Fielder) and guys like Carlos Gomez and Casey McGehee aren't slouches either. Keep up the good work.
Martin Prado's 8th Inning Home Run - Shaun Marcum had pretty much shut our bats down for the first seven innings. Martin worked the count to 3-1 and then blasted a solo-home run to left field that nearly went into the 2nd concourse of the outfield seats.
Craig Kimbrel's Dominance Returns - Two innings pitched, no hits, no runs, one walk, four strikeouts. I think he'll be just fine.
Nate McLouth's Doubleheader - The guy did not make an out. He was 5-for-5 with three walks and hit a monster 2-run home run off Brewers ace Zack Greinke to blow the game wide open. He makes our lineup that much better when he's producing in the 8th spot like he did on Wednesday.
Hitting w/ RISP - 13-for-36; Math was never my strongest subject, but something tells me that's pretty darn impressive. I'll take a .361 batting average the rest of the way without any complaints.
Dan Uggla - Maybe his stat line doesn't reflect it, but Dan Uggla murdered the baseball in this last series. Unfortunately for him, they were right at someone and they didn't fall for a hit. He'll come around soon; he's too good of a hitter not to.
Alex Gonzalez's Defense - He's a human highlight reel out there. Say what you will about his ability at the plate, the guy can flat out change a game with his stellar defense. And as we all saw in Thursday's game, the importance to having Gonzalez in the field is critical for this team to win.
Chipper Jones Keeps Hitting - The man is nearly 40-years old, but you would never know it watching him play. Whether it was him driving the ball to the outfield or making a diving catch at the hot corner, Chipper continued to be our most consistent player this season.
What's Next:
The Braves will travel north to face the NL East leading Philadelphia Phillies for three games. This series is pretty significant because the schedules change drastically for both teams in the next few weeks. Philly will no longer get to feast on the Mets, Astros, Padres, and Nationals and will starts facing some really good clubs (ATL, @ FLA, @ ATL, COL, TEX, CIN), while the Braves will get a much needed break in their schedule (@ PHI, WASH, PHI, HOU, @ ARI, @ LAA, @PIT). It'll be Derek Lowe against Cliff Lee in tonight's matchup.
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Chipper has found the Fountain of Julio
he’ll be hitting like this 10 years from now.
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Problem is first is going to be filled for the next 5 years. Maybe we should push for the DH in the NL to keep Chipper around?
Why so?
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
While there is no fear...
of the DH in the NL…it’s awful.
Having the pitcher bat, among other things, adds an entire category of strategy not present in the AL (e.g. sac bunts, double switches, when to pinch hit, etc.).
While it won’t happen, I wish the AL would get rid of the gimmick; it won’t for the former DHers would claim:
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I would agree with you
But as long as we still have Fredi as our manager, I want to take any and all elements of strategy out of the game.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
Instead of a DH...
We would use Mather as a full-time DB: designated bunter.
I kid; I kid. You’d think I’d lay off since we’re 10-3 since leaving L.A…
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I used to be against the DH in the NL because I am a fan of strategy...
but I realized it gives the AL too much of an unfair advantage. It helps the offense obviously by replace an OBP black hole with a professional hitter, but it also really helps your defense and therefore your pitching staff. Imagine if guys like Fielder or Dunn or Soriano or Howard or Berkman etc could turn in their defensive liabilities to be replaced in the field by a defensive specialist. It’s very similar to the upgrade for hitting for a pitcher each time. The AL also gets to sign players like Thome, Ortiz, and Matsui where they could not possibly be employed in the NL. This is one reason the AL is a better league than the NL — and for an unfair We could DH Chipper (extending his career) put Martin at 3B and plantoon Mather and Hinske in left. All NL teams would instantly improve. Besides, even though I like strategy, most managers are stuck in 1954 and don’t employ it properly.
That Heyward guy is pretty good.
by another simpsons avatar on May 6, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
did you really just say professional hitter... and no one has blasted you yet...
TC is getting soft.
by Klemson Krash on May 6, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
So it sounds like you should be against the DH in the AL
and not for it in the NL.
Get rid of the unfair advantage, don’t rise to meet it.
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by duwanis on May 6, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That would be better in my mind, but it’s much more realistic to expect the NL to employ the DH position than the AL remove it.
That Heyward guy is pretty good.
by another simpsons avatar on May 6, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
No.
Both sides would raise hell if you tried to change the rule.
by TCfromDubVee on May 6, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
One of these days I’m gonna look up the history and try to figure out why on earth the AL went rogue on this in the first place. You’d think Bowie Kuhn or Ueberroth or whoever-was-in-charge then would have said — “no way… either both leagues do it or neither.”
Fangraphs, on Craig Kimbrel: "His strikeout rates look like they’re coming from a video game"
Back when the AL and NL were their own separate entities,
the AL started using the DH as a way to make their games more exciting than the NL’s. It was really that simple.
by Aaron Meier on May 6, 2011 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Correction…they started experimenting with ways to replace the pitcher as a hitter back in the twenties. It wasn’t officially deemed the “DH” until the mid-70’s. The earlier attempts are more what I was referring to. I was actually surprised to find out that the rule was officially introduced that late. I assumed it had been around much longer.
by Aaron Meier on May 6, 2011 1:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well... I'll be honest
Just because it’s the past doesn’t mean it’s a better idea going forward.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
It's fake baseball for people who care about how many runs score instead of how well the game is played.
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I can’t tell if this is sarcasm. Anyway, I think that the game is much more aesthetically pleasing without seeing a pitcher trying to bunt. Let the pitchers perform their role, and let the hitters perform theirs. Additionally, I hate it when opposing pitchers pitch around the batter in the 8th spot in high leverage situations to induce a double play or easy out from the pitcher’s spot. It’s frustrating, and kinda cowardly.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
by frozendesert on May 6, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
But it doesn’t kill me that the Braves play in a league without one. I just can’t understand a lot of the arguments behind banning the DH.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
The DH Rule is like having someone else shot Shaq's freethrows
Admired as a saint. Defined by my rank. Combined with my strength. My time and my length.
Pitchers hitting is more like Phil Jackson shooting Shaq’s free throws.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
You know what
let’s just have an offense and a defense, like they do in football. That way everyone has just one job, and that’s all they ever have to do. Pitchers pitch, hitters hit, catchers catch, outfielders play the outfield, and nobody ever has to worry about being a well-rounded baseball player.
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Let's just...
Have penguins play the game. I like that idea better, and I think I might die if I ever saw a penguin with Dan Uggla’s arms.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
Aw, but what's wrong with my idea?
It’s the perfectly logical continuation of the DH rule. It allows guys like Alex Gonzalez and Brandon Hicks to become prize players, because you can make use of their defensive abilities without having to worry about whether or not they can actually hit the ball. The same goes for players like Ryan Braun, who aren’t great defensively but can hit pretty well. You never have to worry about your catcher rushing to get his pads on, or your great defensive shortstop hurting his hands in a head-first slide. It just seems so perfect, I wonder why it’s never been seriously proposed?
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You’re not paying attention. Penguins. With huge forearms. Come on.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
by frozendesert on May 6, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm paying attention
but the ideas aren’t mutually exclusive.
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Eh, whatever
As you can tell, I’m taking this extremely seriously…
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
by frozendesert on May 6, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
So seriously that you keep making your own points without responding to others :)
If you disagree with the idea that the DH is silly, that’s one thing. If you say that you don’t understand the arguments, though (as you did), it’s kind of silly to not even try to comprehend them.
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Ummm
After I told you that I wasn’t going to argue about this, the only points that I made were a joke about Phil Jackson and a joke about Penguins.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
by frozendesert on May 6, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
"I'm not going to argue about this"
is itself a refusal to acknowledge someone else’s point.
Besides, it’s not really an argument. You said you don’t understand it; I’m trying to explain it. What’s so bad about that?
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Oh, I almost forgot
Pitchers hitting is exactly like Shaq shooting his own free throws. Which is the point.
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Umm...for the NL to "ban" the DH,
it would have had to exist in the first place. The AL “adopted” the DH…the NL is still playing the game as it was always intended.
by Aaron Meier on May 6, 2011 1:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's not sarcasm.
Your “aesthetically pleasing” basically amounts to “it’s more exciting when the pitcher doesn’t hit!”
If we’re going to go down that road, we might as well turn it into Blernsball.
And, no, it’s not frustrating or cowardly – it’s the way the game is played. If it’s really a high leverage situation, then the other manager takes advantage of it by putting in a pinch-hitter after the opposing team pitches around the 8th spot.
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Yeah...
This is an argument that has been played out a million times before, and will be played out a million times again; and, no side ever backs down. Let’s just agree that the Braves are awesome, and leave it that.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
Agreed! Cause this argument might piss me off in turn pissing you off
and I’d rather not be pissed or be pissed at.
How do you know he won't get pissed off first, in turn pissing you off?
by SkinnyAndruwforHOF on May 6, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
He doesn't
But now I’m pissed at you, so take that.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
Maturity!
Yah Maturity!
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
I respectfully disagree. I may get flack for this, but I feel that a pitcher should be able to handle himself in the batter’s box. I mean, he had to have been a good hitter at one point or another, because being a good pitcher only won’t get you through high school and college ball. Just look at Tim Hudson: he was a stud at the plate in college.
I think that a pitcher’s role is more than just pitching. It’s being able to do the things that baseball requires you to do.
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
By the way, I’m not trying to argue, I just wanted to put my opinion out there.
So all is well.
Go Braves!
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
Opinion = great
Calling other people bad names = not great.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
Did I call someone a bad name?
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
Yeah
it still hurts, Kim. I may never get over it. :’(
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/confusion and lol…unless you’re serious, then minus the ‘lol’
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
You mean you don't remember
calling me that horrible, hurtful name?
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Great series for the Braves...
Who knew we would win the Brewers season series 5-3 after our horrid series in Milwaukee?
It’s hilarious how much better the Braves are in May than April. It’s like a switch has been flipped.
As of right now, the Braves have scored the 3rd most runs and have given up the 2nd least runs in the NL—not too shabby.
We need to take at least 2/3 against the Phils to send a message. Luckily, we dodge Halladay once again…
"Insert witty and/or funny quote here" ~ The Person Who Spoketh Said Quote.
NOOOOOO WORLEY
GET TO THE CHOPPAH
I don't know about the guy(s) upstairs, but I do believe in Welsh Jesus
VICK-VICK-VICK-VICKTORIOUS
Ha...
You know, it’s sad, but I feel more comfortable facing their studs.
I know nothing about Worley…When the Braves face new pitchers, I cringe. Plus, it looks like Vance is off to a solid start.
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We don't face him either.
Lee, Oswalt, Hamels.
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I now twitter as @junkstats and blog about made-up stats and general baseball stuff at JunkStats.
by Jacob Peterson on May 6, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully we own Lee again.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on May 6, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope I'm wrong...
But I have a feeling Lowe is going to have a rough go of it tonight. I’m wondering if his mind is going to be in the right place.
If not
He could always take a swig or two to calm himself down.
But seriously, it seems like he always pulls through in games that we really need to win.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
Going to the game on Saturday
We are taking a trip up to Philly and got tickets to Saturday – up in the 400 section. The weekend is (as you would imagine) completely sold out. I’m a bit nervous about wearing my Braves gear, but my better half and I are doing it anyway. Anyone else going to any of the games this weekend?
Nope
Citing safety reasons.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
For your safety
I recommend not doing that. I mean they had a guy throw up on one of their own fans…
Thats what the 8 year old little girl said before she was vomited on.
by mull8993 on May 6, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WHIP
I was looking at some stats this morning…Hudson, Beachy and Hanson are all in the top 7 in the league in WHIP. With Hudson and Beachy at 3rd and 4th respectively, and Hanson at 7th. That is going to win you some damn ball games…
Hudson and Beachy
also have a better WHIP than all 5 of the Phillies pitchers.
by thenightstallion on May 6, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
WHIP
is really not a very good stat for starting pitchers, though. The Braves starters do very well in K/BB and FIP, but then again, so do the Phillies starters.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
I now twitter as @junkstats and blog about made-up stats and general baseball stuff at JunkStats.
by Jacob Peterson on May 6, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely unrelated to anything in this thread...
But the Royals’ youth movement has begun. Hosmer was called up to take Kila Ka’aihue (or whatever…name’s too tough). Why?? Who knows. Probably will make him a Super 2, tho. Should have waited another month…
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
The kid was KILLIN it in AAA... Kila was struggling horribly.
Kila will probably be trade bait as they have amazing depth at 1B/DH.
by Klemson Krash on May 6, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
That seems silly
Do the Royals think that they’re going to be competing for the division come September? Otherwise, why call up Hosmer so soon? I feel like it would have been better in the long run for them to have waited till June. Oh well.
They could be...
But there are plenty of ifs in that equation. The White Sox and the Twins have both put themselves in really difficult positions, as coming back from a 10(+) -game deficit is difficult regardless what time of the year it is.
To be honest, I think the Royals are going to shoot for above .500 this season and use that as a launching pad for next year. They’ve only finished above .500 once since the strike, and followed that up by trading away Beltran the next season. If they can finish third (or second??!?) with only one of their big-time stud prospects reaching KC, that’s a good foundation for breakout seasons.
Attendance figures are too early to check (as they don’t have monthly splits on any site I can find, lol), but 17k in April seems like a pretty healthy figure to me, as they averaged only 20k throughout last season. The summer months typically do significantly better in that area, as schools won’t get out until Mother’s Day at the earliest.
You also have to consider the players’ mindset. While most fans dismiss the entire team as scrubs, there’s quite a few of these guys that will still be around. You have to start building the winning mindset in them, because they’ll be the ones the rooks will look to for advice and leadership.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Wait just a minute...
Among all this DH arguing, we’ve missed something. Didn’t Martin’s homer go to left field? :)
Big time turned on it. Guess that Brewers beat reporter couldn’t call that one a “garbage hit” like he’d accused Odarp of loading up on for the rest of the series.
Fangraphs, on Craig Kimbrel: "His strikeout rates look like they’re coming from a video game"
I’ll take “garbage hits” over NO hits any day. I love when stupid people think they are smart.
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
Bingo. Same guy was lambasting their sleeping offense after Beach scorched them after the first 2 innings.
Fangraphs, on Craig Kimbrel: "His strikeout rates look like they’re coming from a video game"
"Shows you how bad the Brewers offense has been lately...
“Beachy’s career-high for strikeouts is 8, and he already has 7 through the first 3 innings.”
I’m pretty sure Sutton and Powell took advantage of every opportunity to make fun of this guy for the rest of the night.
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+1
Thanks for finding that. Nice to have backup.
P.S. – What an uninformed idiot.
Fangraphs, on Craig Kimbrel: "His strikeout rates look like they’re coming from a video game"
Tom Haudricourt
Who had not one, not two, but three such gems on Twitter during yesterday’s game.
As Sutton said – “he was a friend of mine until about 5 minutes ago.”
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Eh
That’s the thing about Twitter. When you’re a homer, and you share your quick thoughts, they tend to be very homerish. No time to filter.
I, honestly, have a tough time finding something like this on Twitter offensive. He’s a Brewers fan, same as we’re Braves’ fans, and he was frustrated. I think it’s more “real” for him to vent his frustration like this-in, really, an unoffensive manner, since there’s no foul language there-than to attempt to speak in soulless platitudes all the time. Even if it’s a bit unprofessional, it’s still his opinion.
His opinion
is that neither Prado nor Beachy deserved any credit for their performance in the series against the Brewers. That goes a bit beyond homeristic frustrations, I think.
Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
www.duwanis.com
That’s just your opinion of his feelings.
If you’d never say something almost exactly, except from the Braves’ perspective, then go ahead and criticize. Otherwise, you’re just being a hypocrite. And I’ve seen/read/heard a lot of comments that sound almost exactly like this from Braves fans. Their upset at Tom Haudricourt’s comments are just homerism outrage over HIS homerism.
Keep in mind, when we complain about “no-names” shutting the Braves down, and we’re upset at how bad the offense is…to almost every outside of Braves’ country, Beachy is one of those weak no-names.
I understand that some people make similar comments
but I’m not one of them, and never will be. Every time somebody’s complained about “tipping our caps” I’ve been right there saying that the “no-names” deserve their credit, too.
And no, that’s not my opinion of his feelings. He was told that the Braves radio announcers were giving him a hard time for not giving Beachy/Prado any credit, and his response was a snarky “I know when my team is just sucking” quip.
Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
www.duwanis.com
This
And Prado did have a bunch of garbage hits, that’s actually kind of his game. It is pretty frustrating for a fan to watch a bunch of soft-hit balls land for hits.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on May 6, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s because he’s great at putting balls into play and he tends to swing at pitches he probably shouldn’t.
Which we love to see, but for a fan of another team that has to be obnoxious.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on May 6, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree 100%
I just read the tweets.
Harmless.
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I'm 100% with Bronn on this one
How many times do we criticize our hitters on game threads for striking out like crazy against no name pitchers instead of giving those pitchers the credit they deserve? (And yeah, to the rest of the league, Beachy is still a no-name pitcher).
It’s a typical homer reaction. I don’t think he was trying to slight the Braves as much as he was frustrated with the Brewers.
The fact that he was pointedly asked to give Beachy credit
and refused to do so indicates that was trying to slight the Braves… just as much as people who scoff at the “tip your hats” comments are trying to slight our opposition so that they can feel righteous in their frustration.
Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
www.duwanis.com
Fair enough
I didn’t know about him scoffing at giving the Braves’ credit. Sounds like he’d be better suited for attending games in the bleachers as opposed to the press box, in that case.
Yeah, being a fan is one thing
but being a member of the press is another. What kind of reaction would be have if Joe started talking about how much we’ve been sucking on offense? Or if DOB was tweeting about how sad we looked at the plate tonight?
Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
www.duwanis.com
Pretty sure DOB has tweeted about how sad we look at the plate, but point taken anyway.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on May 6, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes...
We do, indeed, look awful at the plate. It’s a fact, not an opinion.
To change sports, look at Josh Smith of the Atlanta Hawks.
He’s 6’9 and athletic. Yet he is a mind-boggling 4-27 from 3-point range in the playoffs. That’s bad. That’s awful. And objectively (read: fact…4-27 is bad), any Hawk reporter would not be faulted for calling out Josh’s shot selection (and some have).
Why are baseball players immune to criticism? Look at the Jeter fiasco in NY. He’s terrible right now. I suppose it’s possible that every pitcher he faces is on fire, but it’s not likely. Would you fault a NY reporter/broadcaster for saying that he looks terrible right now?
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That's nowhere near a fair analogy.
Shooting a 3-pointer isn’t anywhere near as much of an opposed skill as hitting a baseball is. When you shoot a 3-pointer, yeah, there may be somebody trying to block you… but your success is largely dependent on your ability to shoot a 3-pointer, and not on the defense’s ability to block you.
When you’re hitting, your success is largely a factor of both your ability and the ability of the pitcher facing you. Now, obviously, if you just go up there and close your eyes and flail… yeah, you deserve all the credit for not being able to produce. But I’m pretty sure that’s not what the Brewers were doing, and Beachy deserves credit for being able to out-pitch them (just like every other “no-name” pitcher who’s pitched against us and won deserves credit for their performance).
The Jeter analogy you make is also a bad one, because you’re talking about one player instead of the whole team (as Haudricourt was). Still, though, there’s a difference between pointing out a player’s struggles and lambasting it as a failure. If Joe Simpson points out tonight that Uggla hasn’t been hitting well, that’s all well and good and informational. If, on the other hand, Joe started talking about how much Uggla sucks right now, I’m sure most of us wouldn’t appreciate that.
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Why is he standing with the Philly Phanatic instead of Fielder?
There both the same size around.
by TCfromDubVee on May 6, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to be intentionally contrary
But Carlos Gomez has a career .288 wOBA. He’s really not a good hitter. It would, in fact, be absolutely fair to call him a “slouch.” The only reason he can stick on a major league roster is that he’s a good defensive center fielder. Would have been better to mention Corey Hart.
But yes, good point about the other four guys. This is a team that should be able to score a lot of runs, and our guys stifled them. A very well-pitched series, and our pitching has been pretty brilliant this season.
by Bronn on May 6, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This series gets
4 thumbs up. Don’t ask me where I got the other 2 thumbs.
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Probably from
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
Duh
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on May 6, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
One of the Easiest guy to beat in fighting video games. (number one will always be Glass Joe.)
by romone_braves91 on May 6, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'ma Bad Maaan!
I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game. It will take our people out-of-doors, fill them with oxygen, give them a larger physical stoicism. Tend to relieve us from being a nervous, dyspeptic set. Repair these losses, and be a blessing to us. ~Walt Whitman
Love it.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on May 6, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No weakness in this team
Only problems right now are right handed bat off bench and middle relief for 6 and 7 inning which are minor in the big picture. Very confident that we can take two of three from the Phillies. Let’s go Braves.
by romone_braves91 on May 6, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
coughROSScough
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on May 6, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately
Pinch hitting Ross means we’re screwed if McCann happens to get hurt or needs to come out during that game.
Seriously though, what are the chances. You should always give your team the best chance to win, regardless of the what-ifs.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on May 6, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, I’m geeked out over the phils series. Braves are playing at a level they need to be at coming in. Let’s F’n do this!
by Frozen Fan on May 6, 2011 1:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
OT
I was just at Buffalo Wild Wings (or as I like to call it, The Buff) and saw the best baseball clip ever recorded, and I thought I might share it with you all.
Enjoy.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12745349
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
I was really expecting this to be the video of Randy Johnson hitting a bird with a pitch.
I’m kinda disappointed now.
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The best thing about that video is the fact the Nolan Ryan was 46 and he absolutely owned Robin Ventura.
Sweet Bo Jackson sighting!!
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
One of the best clips ever.
If you charge Nolan’s mound – you better come with more than a Ventura.
I remember this. Gotta love Ryan’s uppercut there :-)
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