K's are awesome and everything but...
by LetGMadduxPlayCF2011 on May 22, 2011 2:56 PM EDT
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May 22nd, 2006 -- Jake Peavy strikes out 16 Brave's batters en route to a San Diego Padres franchise record to 18 total team strike outs. Jake Peavy also allows only one fly ball all night. That fly ball was deposited in to the stands for a Ryan Langerhans 2-run HR. Braves win 3-1. Sportscenter and Baseball Tonight drool over Peavy's performance and hardly whispers a breath about Smoltzie's dominance through 7 innings.
This reminds me of the Cliff Lee game earlier this year when he struck out 16, lost the game and proceeded to be featured on every damn media outlet and portrayed as if he was the top performer of the night. Meanwhile, Tim Hudson throws a 1 hitter two nights before and gets over-looked and overshadowed (Liriano's no hitter didn't help) and Derek Lowe takes a no hitter into the 7th inning of that night and hardly gets noticed. Where's the love America?
Whatever, I guess I'll take our veterans flying under the radar and inducing DP ground balls while out performing all the strike out pitchers that get so much recognition.
Oh, and Ryan Langerhans, lol.. with a name like that and the respective career that follows you know this game really sticks out in Peavy's head.
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Sportscenter and Baseball Tonight??
The names don’t really ring a bell.
Oh wait, time machine back to 15 years ago, amirite?
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
Baseball coverage on SportsCenter has virtually been nonexistent.
I honestly see more about hockey than MLB
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.
by TurnerTheBurner on May 22, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Couldn't tell ya
I haven’t watched SC in at least 5 years, and outside of live events (mostly Braves, World Cup and NFL) I think the only thing I’ve watched on any ESPN network is 30 for 30.
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
Is this a referendum on ESPN or over-valuing strikeouts after a loss?
Flashy stats just sell better. Often the “top play” is a breakaway dunk in a blowout or by a losing team. I think K’s fall into that. I think their logic is that the only why I’m going to sit through an hour of news for the 5 minutes I want is if the rest is exciting ie dunks and web gems. The end result is basically the sports equivalent of a Michael Bay movie.
"One thing I’ve learned as a Phillies fan is that a lot of people hate our team and its fans."-commenter on The Good Phight
I understand that some people dig his stuff, but I can’t handle 60 minutes of explosions interlaced with 30 minutes of chase scenes.
"One thing I’ve learned as a Phillies fan is that a lot of people hate our team and its fans."-commenter on The Good Phight
by Chipper Pwns on May 22, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
This totally warranted a FanPost.
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by BullManUGA on May 22, 2011 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
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Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
by biggentleben on May 23, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
And you coming in just to complain afterward. Yep, sounds right.
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com
So... Kinda like after the train passes by and...
the guys on the railroad handcar are light years behind them pushing right along… I would post a picture, but I got fussed at for hotlinking and am now afraid of the evil /BANHAMMER… :-P
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on May 24, 2011 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions
You didn’t get fussed at for hotlinking, the image you wanted us to see couldn’t be seen because the website you were taking it from has some kind of program to prevent hotlinking. Instead of the image all we saw was a box saying no hotlinking. You can put up relevant/funny images as much as is appropriate.
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com
Yay!
I don’t know why it did that cause it showed it for quite some time… It was the BANHAMMER requested. I’ll keep that in mind. :-)
No one ever fussed at me… I just like to whine every now and then. :-)
Don’t worry about older women until you turn 22. It’s called the Saltalamacchia.
by bwellnjonesco on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT
by Klemson Krash on May 24, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Strikeouts are much better than any other outcome a pitcher can have.
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio Stop calling Tommy Hanson "Big Red"
Technically yes, but say the bases are loaded with 1 out. Wouldn’t it be a better outcome for the pitcher to get a groundball to a player and turn a double play? If the pitcher got the strikeout, then there is one more chance for the batting team to get a hit.
"What are you doing, putting the tying run on first base? This is baseball, not backgammon!" -Walter Matheau, The Bad News Bears
I think he means that because...
the ground ball might find a gap, and just as easily score two runs as it could make two outs. At least that’s a common premise of sabre-inclined that pitchers can’t control the direction of batted balls.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Yep
On average, 3 out of 10 times that ground ball is a hit and scores two runs. 10 out of 10 times, the K results in an out.
"Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results."
— Albert Einstein
Twitter: @biggentleben
by biggentleben on May 28, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
There is sometimes the K with runner reaching 1st based (wild pitch or pass ball).
/statistical fail!!
"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson
I would wager
….that the % of strikeout victims that end up on first base is less than 1….and it’s still recorded as an out, it just requires an additional out in order to complete the inning, so a K is an out 10 of 10 times…statistical correction fail…
"Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results."
— Albert Einstein
Twitter: @biggentleben
by biggentleben on May 28, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
In fact
Seeing as a four K inning has happened less than 60 times in the entire history of the game, I’m guessing “dropped” strike 3 has happened MUCH less than 1% of strikeouts in history, so a round 10/10 of strikeouts resulting in an out is statistically accurate.
"Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results."
— Albert Einstein
Twitter: @biggentleben
by biggentleben on May 28, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If the bases are loaded, 1st is occupied so it's still an out and he can't take 1st...
although I would wager BABIP on ground balls is less than .300.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Hmmmm
Typically ground balls have a higher BABIP because it’s more likely a ground ball finds a hole than a fly ball finds a gap. I was referring in general, of course, to any ball put into play, though, air or ground.
"Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results."
— Albert Einstein
Twitter: @biggentleben
by biggentleben on May 28, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
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