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Braves Fall To Brewers 5-4

Mike Minor wasn't sharp in his season debut and allowed five runs on seven hits and four walks in just 4.1 innings. The Braves hitters were all over Marco Estrada in the first inning, but he settled in nicely as the game went on. With the Braves trailing 5-1 in the 6th inning, Jason Heyward hit a monster 3-run home run into the right field seats to bring Atlanta within one. 

The Brewers bullpen came in and worked a scoreless final three innings. The Braves got their leadoff hitter on base in the 9th inning after Heyward drew a walk, but Alex Gonzalez struck out, Matt Young hit into a fielders choice, and Eric Hinske popped up to the right fielder to end the game.

The bullpen was stellar once again tonight. Cristhian Martinez, Eric O'Flaherty, and Peter Moylan combined to work 3.2 innings and despite allowing four hits and a walk, they managed to keep the Brew Crew scoreless during the last few innings of the game.

Pretty frustrating loss, but we still have a chance to win tomorrow and end our first road trip with a winning record.

Star-divide

MVP:

Jason Heyward - 1-for-3, BB, HR (2), RBI 3 (5)

LVP:

Mike Minor - 4.1IP, 7H, 5ER, 4BB, 2K

What's next:

The final game of the four-game series in Milwaukee will feature Tommy Hanson and Shaun Marcum on the mound. We can expect to see Chipper Jones get the day off. A win would not only split the series, but give us a 4-3 record on our first road trip of the year.

Comments of the Game:

Bronn had this reply to the Brewers announcers when they asked if Chipper is a legit Hall of Fame candidate...

And NCChopper posted this beautiful automobile after Heyward's 3-run bomb...

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I'll finish up the recap later...

1,000 word essay due in about three hours and I have no clue where to begin. That kind of takes priority.

"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55

by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

This essay needs more Heyward.

"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net

by J-Freak on Apr 6, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh god i read that as 1000 page essay

by kbertling353 on Apr 7, 2011 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like Douglas’ novel in Wonder Boys.

"All told, Philadelphia stadiums house the most monstrous collection of humanity outside of the federal penal system." - GQ

by Sam Jethroe on Apr 7, 2011 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha no. It actually wasn’t that bad…just had to compare a couple of readings that I hadn’t read. Took about two hours to do. I’d give up on life if anything was 1,000 pages.

"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55

by Scott Coleman on Apr 7, 2011 3:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Marlins Fan

Hows Uggla working out for you guys..? Four left on base tonight
Good luck , you got him for 5 yrs

by Maaku on Apr 6, 2011 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

pretty much fail outside of 1 big HR (which was pretty important)

though he has looked better than expected on D and will get better as the season goes along

by DreamWithinADream on Apr 6, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure he will

Keep dreaming ass wipes … 56 million 5 yrs .167 4 lob tonight

by Maaku on Apr 6, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now now

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 6, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

WINNAR

/thread

"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net

by J-Freak on Apr 6, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hanley = douche bag

Chicks dig the long ball.

DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?

by kimrob1 on Apr 7, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

this X 10000

Chicks dig the long ball.

DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?

by kimrob1 on Apr 7, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

A fair trade

I’ll take Infante and Dunn any day for the Choker Uggla
Dunn is awesome

by Maaku on Apr 6, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Overachieving troll is trying too hard.

"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net

by J-Freak on Apr 6, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 games into the season…ya 1/2 a meatball

"I'm gonna get drunk and play video games till my eyes bleed"- It's Always Sunny in Philly

by KINGSLYTUT on Apr 6, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come back sometime in October and ask the same question.

by ducheneaux13 on Apr 6, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need a fanpost asking trolls from other forums to stay away.

He’s been great, both on offense and defense.

DON'T GO TO SLEEP EARLY OR JEFF FRANCOEUR WILL HAUNT YOUR DREAMS AND LOWER YOUR OBP. - Scott

by BullManUGA on Apr 6, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

Look forward to re-signing Omar Infante next off-season. You essentially traded a 4-5 WAR second baseman for a relief pitcher…and you’re happy about it? That’s kind of odd.

"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55

by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta be happy for something

When you’re team attracts 6 fans per game even though it is a celebrity hotspot for the former NFL market.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 7, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

And your official colors are “Black” and “Vomit”

"All told, Philadelphia stadiums house the most monstrous collection of humanity outside of the federal penal system." - GQ

by Sam Jethroe on Apr 7, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are the Marlins SBN site mods going to ban this guy?

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Apr 7, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Considering that he's only a member of TC

I find it dubious.

THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
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by duwanis on Apr 7, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

i think we can all safely assume those numbers will come up considerably…with or without any help from nate.

by moorebraves on Apr 7, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Defiantly shouldn’t have lost this game…I still don’t know the name of their pitcher tonight. Hopefully this one wakes Freddi up to realize Heyward needs to be batting with men on base! Switch Heyward and Uggla, BMAC has been frequently getting on base and Uggla then pops up to left or GIDP and then JHEY leads off the innings with no men on, except in the case he has runners on he absolutly monnshitted that ball.

Switching Heyward with Uggla would give Heyward more RBI spots and Uggla his shots to clean up with a HR or base knock every now and then

But this for sure wasn’t a game we should have lost…

"I'm gonna get drunk and play video games till my eyes bleed"- It's Always Sunny in Philly

by KINGSLYTUT on Apr 6, 2011 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

thank you i keep forgetting it

"I'm gonna get drunk and play video games till my eyes bleed"- It's Always Sunny in Philly

by KINGSLYTUT on Apr 6, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marco got Hey fever after J Hey’s HR

by PhuckthePhillies on Apr 7, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great idea

whether we win or lose, let’s do it defiantly. That’ll show ’em.

THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
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by duwanis on Apr 6, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very subtle

I almost corrected it myself.

"Wade is no longer the coach." Jason Garrett

by k2spitfire88 on Apr 6, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

honest to goodness i wouldnt mind this

have heyward hit somewhere in the 2,3,4,or5 slot, hitting him 6 is just too low

by Jonesy24 on Apr 6, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

everyone but Freddy seems to agree too.

by jvvenez on Apr 7, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

fielder

even if the ump wasnt in position, he should know there’s no way mccann misses his fatass

by brian23665 on Apr 6, 2011 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Fielder

Is it just me or did he back out of the way of Fielder is a scared way?

"I'm gonna get drunk and play video games till my eyes bleed"- It's Always Sunny in Philly

by KINGSLYTUT on Apr 6, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was funny

"I'm gonna get drunk and play video games till my eyes bleed"- It's Always Sunny in Philly

by KINGSLYTUT on Apr 6, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not as good as a win

But I am really pleased with the bullpen’s performance, and Fredi’s management of it, in all six of the games we’ve played thus far.

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 6, 2011 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Bullpen, rotation and defense have been great so far this season

Those are the hardest things to get right.

Our offense is too good not to catch fire soon, and once they do we will have a complete package.

Nathan Richard - Please come home. We all miss you.

by ATLandUNC on Apr 6, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

There are many positives to take out of the team’s play so far.

Don’t forget, we have yet to play at home, we’re depending on a lot of rookies, and Uggla is a notorious slow starter.

And oh yeah, we’re still 3-3. As Bobby was fond of saying, .500 on the road usually gets you in playoff position.

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I now twitter as @junkstats and blog about made-up stats and general baseball stuff at JunkStats.

by Jacob Peterson on Apr 6, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not worried but who has seen a frustrated Freddi Freeman lately?

Just an observation.

by GumpBrave on Apr 7, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

.105 makes you frustrated. If he was happy about it I’d worry more.

we knew he would struggle this year- worst case if he struggles into May/June- we got options and trading chips.

by Broccoman on Apr 7, 2011 6:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

We got

RandomPitcher’d.

"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones

by MBL1 on Apr 6, 2011 11:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Almost fooled me in the first inning though.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 7, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

if we don’t send Chipper we probably score 200 runs that inning.

by yondaime4 on Apr 7, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Snitker strikes again.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 7, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awful

I wanted to punch him right when I saw Chip rounding third.

Jack Parkman up to the plate, he does that little shimmy that makes the women here in Cleveland puke.

by ChippersMyLifeCoach on Apr 7, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

Chicks dig the long ball.

DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?

by kimrob1 on Apr 7, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least, for once, batting Heyward 6th paid off.

Moylan has looked pretty good so far.

Minor… dude, this is not how you try to secure a spot on the team, after Beachy dominated the same lineup.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 6, 2011 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Not saying that you're making the argument yourself

But the “Heyward hitting 6th obviously isn’t a problem – he homered tonight!” is incredibly flawed.

If you bat Albert Pujols 9th he would still probably hit 30 homers, but it doesn’t make it any less dumb.

Nathan Richard - Please come home. We all miss you.

by ATLandUNC on Apr 6, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not for Heyward being in the 6 spot.

I found it incredibly odd that Fredi decided to put Freeman in the #2 spot instead of moving Heyward there. It was more a sarcastic empty statement lol.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 7, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t think you were advocating it, I just used your statement as a jumping off point.
Gotta take any opening you can find for these things, haha.

inb4 TWSS

Nathan Richard - Please come home. We all miss you.

by ATLandUNC on Apr 7, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand why he didn’t just put Young in the #2 hole. He has hit near the top of the lineup his whole minor league career, and he takes a walk (his first AB). I think Freeman will eventually end up in the 6 hole.

Here’s how I predict the lineup later this year

Prado
Chipper
Heyward
Uggla
McCann
Freeman
Gonzalez
McLouth/Young

I really think Young is going to take McLouth’s starting job.

by Dave_D on Apr 7, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see Chipper out of the three hole and Heyward there, but not gonna hold my breath on it.

by goesbetterwithbeer on Apr 7, 2011 10:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I just hope the offense has their feet soaking wet by Friday night.

Minor seems a little mentally weak to me. I think Bobby and Management kind of noticed that once they brought him up last year and he was complaining about his arm being fatigued (or something along those lines).

The pitching has been great so far, besides Minor.

The offense will come around. It is way to deep and talented not to bust out and get consistent production soon. It is just a little frustrating as fans when you hear comments like “we are just trying to get our feet wet” and then you wonder what Spring Training is for.

I’m really enjoying Fredi G’s managerial decisions so far. I can’t say i’ve questioned a single move he has made so far. He has done a great job.

by BravesFanScout on Apr 6, 2011 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps mental makeup is why Beachy got the 5th starter nod.

by GumpBrave on Apr 7, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to be that guy, but Minor AND Hanson both stunk it up

And Sherrill hasn’t been too effective, not that anyone really expected him to be. I want to see Hanson show up with a dominant start, miss some bats and throw some K’s on the board. The constant 90-92 mph heat he’s throwing worries me.

by goesbetterwithbeer on Apr 7, 2011 10:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Can’t wait for the team to get home. The first week of the season is always a wash to me with everyone getting used to everrything. Just like a minor league players first season its never anything to judge on.

by yondaime4 on Apr 7, 2011 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Remember when we used to walk a ton and lead the league in OBP last year? Other than Heyward NO one is taking a walk. Uggla and McCann (obviously Heap is raking right now but I’m making a point) have combined for 0 and Sea Bass of all people is second on the team with 2. Free base runners help when you’re not hitting well.

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by bpk228480 on Apr 7, 2011 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Chipper has surprised me with how much he is swinging at the first pitch.

by yondaime4 on Apr 7, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I feel like that is normal when he’s facing a Halladay, but he usually waits on rookies (I think).

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 7, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think his methodology with this is that he doesn’t believe pitchers respect him like they used to, and will try to get ahead early with fastballs. They could just be running into his zoning strategy.

Twitter: @Ben_Duronio Stop calling Tommy Hanson "Big Red"

by BenDuronio on Apr 7, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fire Pendleton!

Wait… we already did. Shoot, anyone have another idea?

Sidenote: Snitker had another crap day waving Chipper home.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 7, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is not the baserunner you are looking for.

by GumpBrave on Apr 7, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

That wave in by Snitker bothered me more than Minor poor start. He should have known Chipper did not have enough speed to get home.

by romone_braves91 on Apr 7, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it also bothered me that Chipper didn’t seem to take his usual glance into the outfield when he was rounding the base. He seemed to have no idea that Gomez threw an awesome strike to home (granted that could be Heaps fault for not conveying that he needed to slide).

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 7, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brian told him to slide…if you watch the replay, Brian couldn’t have been more obvious about Chipper needing to slide if he were dancing naked and holding up a sign saying “SLIDE” in giant letters.

Chicks dig the long ball.

DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?

by kimrob1 on Apr 7, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh dear.

Somebody grab the smelling salts; I think we may need to revive TL2 after he reads this one.

THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
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by duwanis on Apr 7, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know. I should really think before I type these things.

Chicks dig the long ball.

DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?

by kimrob1 on Apr 7, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I didn’t get a chance to see that. Guess Chipper is still a little apprehensive to try a last second slide?

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 7, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

He probably figured he was out by a mile anyways and didn’t want to risk getting hurt.

Chicks dig the long ball.

DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?

by kimrob1 on Apr 7, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chipper needs to take sliding lessons from Huddy.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 7, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

Chicks dig the long ball.

DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?

by kimrob1 on Apr 7, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quite frankly...

I would rather Chipper be out than to potentially re-injure himself with an awkward slide into home—too many injuries occur at the plate due to the collisions with the catcher.

The non-slide occurred in the 1st inning. If the play had been later in the game, he probably would have risked it.

I am bi-winning. I win not only here but also there.

by Jman781 on Apr 7, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its generally (not unanimously) a good approach to swing at the first pitch but perhaps we should have a few sessions where we emphasize patience…

by GumpBrave on Apr 7, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prado doesn’t. Plus it seems like the first pitch he takes is the same pitch every time he’s at bat.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 7, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prado can have whatever approach he wants as far as I’m considered. Martin Prado is a ballplayer who will do whatever he thinks is necessary to win so as far as I’m concerned he will always figure it out in the end.

I’m talking about the rest of the team and I’m especially talking about Gallardo last night.

by GumpBrave on Apr 7, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a team though, the Braves have never had a swing first mentality. Maybe I’m confusing what you’re advocating, but seeing more pitches is always a good thing.

Gallardo may not have been “strikeout filthy” last night but as he progressed through the game his 12-6 curve seemed to gain bite and helped him generate crap contact.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 7, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just saying (without looking at stats at all) that it seems that the Braves haven’t been very patient at the plate especially early in the count.

by GumpBrave on Apr 7, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Not this season so far.

"Give him the heater Ricky."

by Pavy848 on Apr 7, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here we go

No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.

by royhobbs on Apr 7, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

WHERE IS YOUR HEYWARD NOW?

LIVE EDT

Tape-delayed for the West Coast

by TheLetter2 on Apr 7, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

a) not the right numbers
b) OBP is more important than AVG, maybe not to Posey though

by DreamWithinADream on Apr 7, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know. But I saw Brian’s picture and decided batting average tells us everything we need to know about a hitter’s abilities.

LIVE EDT

Tape-delayed for the West Coast

by TheLetter2 on Apr 7, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just hate games like this where a bad call is the difference in the game. We got hosed.

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by TonyAlmeyda on Apr 7, 2011 12:05 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Posey was out, too

CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.

by DolphinNation on Apr 7, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I could come to your house and personally rec this from your computer I would.

Nathan Richard - Please come home. We all miss you.

by ATLandUNC on Apr 7, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

They look at him

And see a power hitter, not a high OBP guy.

I hope it doesn’t cost us too much before someone makes them smell the proverbial coffee.

"All told, Philadelphia stadiums house the most monstrous collection of humanity outside of the federal penal system." - GQ

by Sam Jethroe on Apr 7, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

really disappointed in Fredi for ignoring stats and making that comment.

Hell Bobby ignored stats too, but at least he had the common sense to bat his best hitter high in the lineup.

by DreamWithinADream on Apr 7, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I am all for helping people out and making them feel good about themselves. One of the reasons Nate’s in the 2 hole is because Gonzalez wants instill confidence in him. Great. Is being a starting CF in the 6th spot (where we could move him) for a contending MLB team not enough?

Meanwhile, our team suffers because of it. How sad was it to see Heyward lead off the 9th with a walk, only to have junk behind him? Yeah…Ugh. I have no problem with Gonzalez’s logic if our 7th and 8th hitters were solid bats, but, right now, they do not offer adequate protection. Until something changes, I expect to see Heyward stranded a lot this season.

I am bi-winning. I win not only here but also there.

by Jman781 on Apr 7, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, if Heyward bats 2nd – last night, there is no 3 run home run, but he probably scores in the 1st inning giving us a net loss of 2 runs on the night.

Then, we come to the 9th inning, and instead of getting a runner on to lead off, we have Alex Gonzalez striking out, followed up by Matt Young and Freddie Freeman – no chance to win with that as our 9th inning lineup.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Apr 7, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are so right, we should go with your plan. Because that one instance justifies all the things The Goche put in his post. Seriously man, it is not smart for Heyward to bat 6th.

Boo! Tomorrow AM. I want all things now!

by Perrinbar on Apr 7, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

This one instance is an example of why it doesn't matter much.

Geez. Let’s go back to complaining about McLouth all the time – at least whether or not he starts for us has the potential to seriously affect most of our games this year.

THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
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by duwanis on Apr 7, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heyward

Is a good player. He would produce in the 9th spot in the lineup. My concern is not with him, it’s with who surrounds him. I would much rather have him behind Prado and ahead of Chipper, McCann, etc. than behind Uggla (who is arguably our best power hitter) and ahead of our worst batters…Why even pitch to Heyward in some instances?

Over the course of the season, I feel that our best OBP player should have more, not less, at bats, and would add more of a benefit at the top of the order.

It’s my opinion. That’s all. As for yesterday’s game, it worked out (if losing a game = working out), but it’s really difficult to predict what would have happened had Heyward been in the 2 spot…We’ll never know.

I am bi-winning. I win not only here but also there.

by Jman781 on Apr 7, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

THIS

I don’t even give a rip about who it is batting #2, it could be any of Prado, Heyward, Uggla, Chipper, Mac.

I would choose Heyward because I do appreciate that he’s faster than Chipper and Mac, and I don’t think Uggla is that fast either. I do appreciate speed at the top of the lineup.

That and generally, I would bat your best OBP guy ahead of your best hitters.

Honestly, I’m not even really bothered by today’s lineup (other than the fact that I wish we had a better OBP option than Nate outside of our top 5 hitters, but we don’t really at this point).

I still think it’s dumb to have Heyward be the last of your good hitters in the lineup since he’s the best at getting on base.

But in general, when your roster has 5 clearly, legitimately good hitters, and a HUGE drop off after those top 5, I want those top 5 in top five spots getting all the at bats they can.

I guess it’s fair to say my annoyedness comes in two parts:
1. The fact that after those top 5 hitters our choices kind of suck (until Freddie gets comfortable, which I think he will).
2. Our best OBP guy should be given the chance to get on base as much as he can.

So what’s frustrating is when it’s a combination of those two things, that our best OBP guy isn’t getting the chance to get on base as much, and when he is getting on base there is no one there to knock him in.

by The Goche on Apr 7, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tie ballgame (at least) if this would have been an accurate call.

(courtesy of SuperNewb who posted it in the OT last night)

We was robbed I tell ya! ;-)
Of course, the SP didn’t help, and our impatience at the plate added to our lack of putting this one away.
But we showed signs of life, so I’m hopeful for today’s game.

"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West

by NCChopper on Apr 7, 2011 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Bill Miller was probably afraid Prince would eat him if he called him out…

by John Holton on Apr 7, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why have instant replay when you can get the call wrong?

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 7, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because...

Taking a couple of minutes to get a key call right would slow down the game too much…Plus, if Fielder was out and the game progressed as it did, there could have been extra innings. Thus, the rules did us a favor, for we got to turn off our TV earlier.

I am bi-winning. I win not only here but also there.

by Jman781 on Apr 7, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not just key calls, though, so I understand it

it’d basically be every time a manager comes out to argue.

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by duwanis on Apr 7, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not if each manager had 1 challenge available to them for each game.

It’s just stupid that this wasn’t incorporated into the game years ago.

These blatantly blown calls at home plate (that costs a team the game) should be challenged.

Yes, the umps usually get the call right, but tell that to the Braves.

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 7, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's tradition...

We didn’t have reviewed calls in 1927, so we shouldn’t have reviewed calls now.

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by Jman781 on Apr 7, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol, just curious....

sarcasm? or are you serious?

traditionally blown calls should/could be a thing of the past. it’s bogus.

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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 7, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know...

I would give each manager one challenge, like in football. Balls and strikes would not be reviewable, but plays at the plate (or other base), determining if a ball was trapped or not, etc. would be reviewable…

We have the technology; we should use it.

I am bi-winning. I win not only here but also there.

by Jman781 on Apr 7, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

gotcha. yeah.

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 7, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad Selig doesn’t give a crap. He just wants more games, and more playoff teams, i.e., even more blown calls. lol

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 7, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn’t have taken no more time than Freddie coming out to argue the call did.

"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West

by NCChopper on Apr 7, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worried about Minor

He was mentally and physically drained last season and uttered the words, “I’m tired!” Bobby saw the blood in the water and sharks circling, and he didn’t run him back out there to protect his psyche and the clubs $2 million investment.

Fast forward to Spring Training…Minor is the favorite to be the 5th guy. He threw great early and guys in the clubhouse endorsed him, with Chipper saying, “We need a lefty in the rotation and Minor will dogood things for us.” But, as Beachy threw better and better, locked in mentally and admitting to feeling no room for error, Minor started to struggle with the pressure of competition. Yet Minor threw fairly well, Beachy was just better.

Now we come to his 1st start of the season…a chance to capitalize on his opportunity and prove he’s the answer now, and to challenge for more innings and force the front office’s hand to make room for him…and he walks the bases loaded and inevitably loses the momentum his offense created in the 1st inning after being 2-hit the night before. Chipper even said, “So much for momentum!”

The disturbing thing about Minor last night were his comments after the game. He said “I had the yips, was babying things trying to throw a strike, and was scared as I kept throwing balls!”

Holy Mary and Joseph! Minor needs to work on the mental side of things. In 8 big league starts, he’s uttered the words…drained, tired, scared…while referring to his outings.

There’s no doubt he’s got talent and ability, but he needs to get confident and stay in AAA! I’d rather see Lopez making spot starts at this point.

I like to listen to what players have to say, and in regards to Beachy, they say great things and I believe, in a way, they are talking to Minor, trying to get him clued in to what it takes in a MLBclubhouse.

Huddy on Beachy…“I love his aggressiveness and composure, he competes.”

Chipper on Beachy…“He’s unflappable, astrike machine, aggressive, fun to play behind!”

F. Gonzalez on Beachy…“He’s a competitor, works hard, and doesn’t get rattled.”

And if Beachy loses, he has a profound hatred of losing and makes comments about his frustrations and continuing to compete and improve. Same as the other vets who’ve been through the ringer. Beachy would never say, “I’m tired,” or “I was scared.” Neither would Lowe, Hanson, Hudson, JJ, etc.

I love Minor’s ceiling, but he’ll never paint it if he’s afraid of heights!

With Beachy doing well and Teheran and Delgado closing in, I’d hate to see Minor become the trade bait.

by Braves12 on Apr 7, 2011 8:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

It’s a classic case of “million dollar arm with a ten-cent head”. Minor’s problems are between the ears. His stuff looks great, and on paper he might be the better pitcher, but it doesn’t translate to wins on the field.

by John Holton on Apr 7, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

great post.

Chicks dig the long ball.

DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?

by kimrob1 on Apr 7, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prince was OUT.

TL2, am I doin’ this rite??

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Apr 7, 2011 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

LIVE EDT

Tape-delayed for the West Coast

by TheLetter2 on Apr 7, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gooood...

I’ve been practicing typing that in my mirror. I really wanted to get it right.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Apr 7, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Preparation is key to any good speech.

LIVE EDT

Tape-delayed for the West Coast

by TheLetter2 on Apr 7, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Posey = Out

Fielder = Out

So by transitive property, Fielder = Posey?

by DreamWithinADream on Apr 7, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

No

Fielder > Posey any day of the week.

Oh wait, we are talking about belly size aren’t we?

by dragonhawk26 on Apr 7, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Lord, no.

LIVE EDT

Tape-delayed for the West Coast

by TheLetter2 on Apr 7, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it just me....

or does anyone else miss Bobby’s intensity when arguing for his players? Fredi has come out a few times, but he’s too calm. I want to see more fight in him.

We all know that Bobby would’ve been ejected immediately after that play at the plate last night.

Chicks dig the long ball.

DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?

by kimrob1 on Apr 7, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Yup

He would have been ejected before he made it to home.

by mull8993 on Apr 7, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

2 things.....

1. That was sad last night cause for a couple seconds I got hyped up waiting for Bobby to come waddling out only to see Fredi an realize Bobby is gone for good!:( To be sure I’m not the only one that had the flashback!

2. It occured to me this morning that I feel really bad for the marlins troll! Imagine what it’s like for him over on the board by himself! He was just looking for company

by jdmarine on Apr 7, 2011 9:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Anybody know how many times Fredi has been ejected?

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
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by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 7, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

As bad as the offense has been, I just keep telling myself if just 2 of the three slumping guys will get going (Uggla, Freeman, and McLouth), we’re gravy. I’ve got faith that two of those guys will turn it on, and for the other…well, I’m rooting for Matt Young to play well so he’s not a factor.

Also, could we please see the 2010 post-All Star break Tommy tonight? That 90-mph throwing nibbled from Washington wasn’t nearly as enjoyable to watch.

by goesbetterwithbeer on Apr 7, 2011 10:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks ump

It doesn’t matter that you couldn’t even see the tag…..

Just call him safe. Sure.

Hopefully we got that out of the way, at least for a while….

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 7, 2011 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

nope

umps are just as likely to blow calls going forward as they were yesterday.

by DreamWithinADream on Apr 7, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why it bothers me so much more

that we sent Chipper. You can’t do anything about umps, but can avoid silly baserunning decisions.

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by duwanis on Apr 7, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I figured that their CF’ers throw (that always looks really intense…..Tex-like) would be off. I would have sent him, too.

The throw was on teh money.

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 7, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why risk it?

It’s the first inning. You’ve been hitting the pitcher hard ever since he came up to the plate. Why bother sending the runner when it could be close? Hang onto him and let the inning get potentially bigger, instead of sending the second out home.

THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
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by duwanis on Apr 7, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol, i know it's a moot point....

but Uggla would have popped out, either way.

but you’re right. lol

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 7, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not a moot point

Uggla’s flyout would’ve been a sac fly.

THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
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by duwanis on Apr 7, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

……………..very good call.

I’m having one of those days.


blast

"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 7, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

(pulls another chunk of hair out)

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"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
~
Swing and a drive...Belted right! Welcome to the Show!!!

by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Apr 7, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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