The Hypocrisy of Talking Chop
I'll preface this by saying I fully expect to get banned.
SB Nation wants their sites to be as professional as possible, and so do we.
and later:
What we (and SBN) don't want is for you to go over and stir things up. That's when things get bad and makes us look like Yankees or Red Sox fans.
I'm not here to comment on the merits of the rules regarding Good Phight. My honest thoughts are that they have their own sets of moderators and can handle themselves with their own ban-hammer if the trash talking becomes too much. The rules are the rules, though, and I don't have a problem following them.
My problem is how we treat our own. Evidently the same (wonderful, awesome, highly knowledgeable, yes I'm sucking up before the hammer hits) guys that think that it is in bad form to harass fans of another team think it is perfectly acceptable to trash their own fans to the point that they delete their fanposts and are left alone to cry in their basement. And, more importantly, never visit this site again.
I have read this site daily for 2+ years, and I really enjoy the commentary and the back and forth regarding statistics and issues that, at the end of the day, don't matter much compared to the people that visit and take part in those discussions.
Back to the quotes I outlined at the start: I understand that you guys want this to be a professional site, and you expect Braves fans to act better than Yankees or Red Sox fans. If so, why do you allow the posters on this site to lob the post equivalent of D cell batteries at our own fans while handling our rivals with rubber gloves? Chopmaster is a kid, for goodness sake. I can only imagine the posts I would do if I was back in middle school... they would be gruesome... and I wouldn't have the mental fortitude or confidence to take the criticism that is constantly thrown his way.
The other post by AUfan or something similar was much worse with the personal attacks. All these guys simply share a love for baseball and the Braves. They are simply not as experienced, and that inexperience simply does not justify the amount of hatred and angst heaped upon them just because they used batting average instead of OBP to justify a thought process.
I fully expect to get banned for this. If so, that is fine: I will still visit the site and read the content daily. However, this is a fan site, which is supposed to be about the fans, right? When did it change?
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I hope you aren’t banned for this post – it is an honest expression of how you feel.
But, I will say that I think about 99% of what was posted in the AU thread specifically was more tongue-in-cheek ribbing.
While yes, we don’t like posts like his too much, and express as much in the comments, nobody hates him.
Getting ridiculed is pretty much a rite of passage here – it happened to all of us. When the negative comments are made, most, if not all of them, are humorous. It’s all pretty light-hearted, IMO.
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd, "...and another thing, Vonnegut..."
In saying that we don’t like posts like his too much, you need to understand; no, appreciate, the fact that nobody is perfect. I’ve taken my fair share of drubbings on this, and other, blogs, on comments or fanposts/shots I’ve created. Justin is right – it’s a rite of passage.
That being said, it’s like how you treat your brother(s) or sister(s). We all crack nuts around here, but at the end of the day, we’re all Braves fans, which makes us a big happy family.
I promised myself I wasn’t gonna cry…tear, sniffle…
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
e-hug
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
shanks mange!
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
If anything the ribbing is meant to help the posters improve, not to chase them away completely. Also, if you’re going to let a bunch of juvenile jokes from a bunch of cybergeeks like us hurt your self esteem, perhaps the interwebz isn’t for you.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd
That’s exactly it. My first fanpost was a fired-from-the-hip piece of crap that seemed like a good idea at the time. The drubbing it got didn’t make me go cry alone in my basement, it made me read a lot of fanposts real quick to get a handle on what a good fanpost is so that I could be a better contributor going forward. If your post is not substantive, you’re going to take some hits. Welcome to the internet. But they’re not mean-spirited, we-hate-you hits, they’re “hey, this is a bad post and you need to prepare better material if you wish to be taken seriously” hits.
"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net
by J-Freak on Apr 6, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I took the easiest way out: I sucked up to the major figures on the blog and then gradually worked my way into gamethreads.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
I definitely didn’t take that tack. I started reading stuff early that year but didn’t join to post until early September, and I fired off that ill-conceived fanpost on either the last day of that season or the day after. But, as most of you know by now, it certainly didn’t scare me off when it was eviscerated, because my happy ass is still quite vocal and more than happy to tell you what I think if you ask :)
"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net
Confrontation makes me break out in hives. So I try to be as agreeable as possible.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
I took a beating on the Dolphins blog
the first time I posted anything. I put a Mock Draft together before last season, and I took crap from a bunch of the savvy vets over there. I learned what it took to be taken seriously, based my posts on facts, rather than “this is what I would do.”
I’m pretty sure my first post on here was a Fanshot about Griffey retiring, and that went over quite well, if I remember correctly.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I do that to almost every single one of Paul Kuharsky’s posts about the Jags and their draft “needs.”
ESPN talking heads just don’t get the idea of drafting the best available player.
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t. I started off with a general post about how we should acquire Jesse Litsche (this was back in early 09 I think…) and proceeded to get reamed by Big Joe.
If you guys think we are cruel, you should have been around back then!
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s Litsch you idiot!
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com
Pat Litschache?
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit – and he’s a fellow USF Bull….
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s an incredibly nice guy too.
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com
I still kinda wish he could end up in our system, but alas, there is no room at the inn.
That Toronto rotation is pretty stout – as usual.
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
my first MO was going at it with MichaelProcton
and then I buddied up with Justin when we were arguing daily about Kelly Johnson. i earned my stripes, for sure :D
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes and no
I’m still not sure that it’s a good idea for me to make a serious comment on this post. But why not, it’s hump day.
Ribbing is one thing. There are a lot of posts that get thrown up that definitely don’t fit into this category, though, and I find those to be generally distasteful.
That said, I think we have to be careful that we don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. There’s a difference between not saying something because it’s offensive and not saying something because it could possibly be offensive. If we start adopting the latter approach, this site will lose a lot of the individual charm that makes it such a fun place to hang out :)
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
and for reference, this is coming from a guy who BigJoe threatened to stab in the gentials after a couple of posts. (this reference might not make sense to most of you, but for those that it does you will smile)
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
…with a rusty nail…
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, I saw an awful lot of those threats but never actually saw this nail....
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
You mean this Rusty Nail?
I make mine with Dewar’s 12 (traditional blended Scotch) and Drambuie, and serve it garnished with a lemon peel.
"If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj. --justincredubil02 on Feb 28, 2011 2:30 PM EST
You trying to say BJ was just trying to buy us all drinks?
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
You should hope so.
I cringe to think of the alternative.
"If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj. --justincredubil02 on Feb 28, 2011 2:30 PM EST
I recall a young justin who once posted a fanpost entitled UNC>Duke. Pretty sure we handed his ass to him on that one. Ah, the good ol’ days.
Coming soon: winningugly visits Atlanta, takes dump in royhobbs’ Braves hat.
Almost, but...
Arizona>UNC>Duke
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
HEY! Carrrrrre-ful buddy
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Well it was kind of true this year…
I just wish we had the number of national titles both schools have.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
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by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, OK, I'll give you that
Mvhs wildcats – 1
Duke fan – 0
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
This year would have to be UNC = UA > Duke.
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah crap...here comes the Tarheel fan
FML
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
And I’ll probably be around longer than the Duke fans – it usually works out that way in the tournament…
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Except last year :)
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Blind squirrel, nut, etc…
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, yeah...I know.
Still counts as a banner at Cameron, though.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe one day, you will have as many banners as the Dean Dome – as long as you guys stop recruiting unathletic trees and streaky 3-point shooters.
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
/Wait...the Plumlee's aren't athletic??
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know what it’s called, but “talented basketball player” certainly isn’t it…
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
What do the D'backs have to do with college hoops?
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
And to think, all I had to do was put an “OT” tag on the front of it…
Oh, and for the record, everything I said was true.
:)
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
can someone ban this guy already?
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 6, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t we leave you in a dumpster?
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
i found my way back here somehow…it’s a miracle really
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 6, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
beard!
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
hello good sir!
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 7, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Wowwww...
Were your ears burning two days ago. I asked where you went. I still appreciate a heads up you gave me with regards to buying a jersey off ebay from jerseystore2000.
"This stadium is upside down!!!" -Jim Powell, 4/5/2010
How’d that work out for you? Hope the merch was legit, cause I’ve been very pleased with the two I bought from them. Wanted to buy more but seems like something happened cause their selection has plummeted.
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 7, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
HOLA!
Ahh….old times.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I started an similar email yesterday but work got in the way....
The behavior of some of the posters is unnecessary and discourages fan posts for fear of ridicule. I don’t particularly care about the rantings of these folks but if you want real content from fans this has to stop. I am surprised the moderators not only complicit, but also often jump into the fray.
I’d prefer to see all the posters jumping on a kid’s post to use that creative energy to create their own post.
And Justin, these are not humorous posts or even witty.
by crack of the bat on Apr 6, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
I tend to agree with you here, however
when you open a Fanpost and you see something along the lines of this:
heyward is hitting 248 with 1 hr and 3 rbis this season when will freddi move him to the the 2 spot in the lineup i think he should hit there mcclouth doesn’t hit there he should bat 7th or 8th we need heyward higher in the lineup
it tends to hurt the eyes a tad. We ridicule posts like that because, quite honestly, it doesn’t take a genius to use proper grammar and punctuation. In order to be taken seriously, at least take the time to generate a post that can be read easily, so you’re taken seriously.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this
And I don’t have any issue with writers and moderators who want to have some quality control over the content on their own site. If something looks like it was written by a 9 year old, then it’s going to end up deleted-even if it WAS written by a 9 year old.
One thing I would have issue with is that we sometimes treat posters like idiots, only we end up learning that English is not their first language. Clearly, it’s acceptable for some poor grammar and syntax from those people without it meaning that they aren’t inteilligent.
i dont agree with this
cmon people this isnt english class, this is called internet quick speak, easily readable just because i dont capitalize my i’s doesnt mean you cant read this and get the message loud and clear, hate grammar nazis online. Yes I can write properly, but I refuse to unless its a formal or business letter. Stop being grammar nazis, does it make u feel superior?
I don’t think it makes anyone feel superior, it just makes you look smarter…
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually no, it doesn't.
It makes me feel intelligent because it doesn’t take that much more time to use proper grammar and punctuation. Internet quick-speak, as you call it, is lazy and quite irritating to read.
im sry dat i cnt rite like dis wat do u want from me
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Writing in internet quick speak
Will make me ignore you. Immediately (unless it’s clearly used sarcastically). My grammar and spelling are certainly not perfect, and in the heat of typing I occasionally make errors, or even omit words. I don’t mind the same from others, as long as it’s distinguishable.
But if you want to have a grown-up discussion, try writing like a grown-up. I don’t even text in quick speak.
Personally, there is a significant difference between the errors that occur in posting
1. poor grammar or typing mistakes….I make a ton of them, and I overuse ellipses, but this doesn’t really detract from a good point.
2. misspelling a Braves player’s name, I will not read the post, and will most likely ignore future posts, unless I realize that it was a typing mistake, for example if Royhobbs for some reason misspells Medlen ( I know he knows how to spell the name so it’s obviously a spelling error and not a big deal)
3. using internet speak, like you cited…there is a special circle in hell for such users, I am certain.
Overall, it’s the egregiousness of the error that correlates to how stupid I think the poster is and as such will ignore the post. I do not want to ignore posts, because there is a chance said poster is incredibly insightful and I want them to get their point across in a medium that people will read. Many posters will ignore sloppy writing, and they should based on experience.
In the end if you get made fun of or harassed for a mistake don’t take it personally, look at it as a chance for growth.
this is aimed at you specifically, but rather just general information that I feel might be helpful in painting a perspective for those who have been given the internet cold-shoulder, or the internet beating with a rubber hose (if you will)
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
In re #2
How can you ever be sure it wasn’t a typing mistake?
I really don’t understand why spelling isn’t a big deal until OMG YOU MISSPELL FRANCOEAUSAERFASD. Spelling errors are spelling errors. If we still know who you’re talking about, it really doesn’t matter.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
there is a significant difference between “Shcafer” and “Schaeffer” (or w/e other spelling there may be), the former is clearly a typing mistake that was a result of hasty typing. The latter is a result of not spending the time to know how to spell the name of a person, it bothers me as my last name is often improperly spelled and mispronounced. It does not take a lot of time to make sure you spell it right and it is discourteous to not do so.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
You could say the exact same thing about any spelling mistake
So why would you only stop reading when someone misspells a name? That’s kind of a weird double-standard.
If you’re going to evaluate a post based on its analysis, do that. If you’re going to evaluate a post based on its grammar/spelling/technical correctness, then do that. But if you’re going to ignore it because it isn’t polite to the players, then I imagine you’d be ignoring 90% of the posts that are actually about baseball :)
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
so we disagree, we already knew that.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
I guess I’m just trying to figure out if it’s more than a gut thing. I mean, do your own thing either way. It’s just weird to see a community that largely operates on logic have a prevailing double-standard like that.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
Well, to be fair, your last name is unpossible.
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
unpossible, really?
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
sarcasm meter
broken
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Though, this would apply to many of the posts that include my family name. Most people leave out an “r” or an “l”, or both, in our name. Granted our family has only had a member of the Braves roster for 5 months, but it is misspelled daily.
Would that be a spelling error or someone not taking the time to know how to spell someone’s name?
It doesn’t make me feel superior, but it sure does make others look inferior.
If you want to be taken seriously, then put in all the extra effort and hit that shift button and i simultaneously. If you (the plural you, not just you specifically) lack the initiative to complete that simple charge, why should I bother taking anything you say seriously?? Your premise is likely to be as bad as your grammar or punctuation.
I’m all for anyone having their own writing style (have you noticed mine??), but there’s a big difference between style and laziness.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Wait, you have your own writing style??
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
Not really…I was just making that up.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Really??
Here I was thinking I’d figured it out.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
Wow.
It’s not easily readable unless you’ve acclimated yourself to it… which is the whole point behind having a standard spelling/grammar – to give us a common reference point for communication. Every time you violate that, you make your writing more difficult to comprehend. That doesn’t mean that you can’t ultimately comprehend it – obviously I understand what you’re saying in the above post, but it took me slightly longer to parse than it would’ve if you’d taken the few extra seconds to properly exercise the language.
It’s not any faster than normal typing, unless you’ve never actually bothered to learn to type, in which case saving those two or three extra keystrokes may be a big deal for you, I guess.
Saying “cmon people this isnt english class” is the equivalent of saying “C’mon people, this isn’t math class” during a statistics discussion.
I’m not going to pick on you just because you used a comma splice, or used the wrong version of their/they’re/there, or made the dreaded its/it’s mistake. But these grammar rules are there for a reason, and there are plenty of situations where doing it wrong causes your point to become obfuscated and/or ambiguous.
In this light, the fact that you “refuse to write properly unless it’s a formal or business letter” indicates that you really don’t care about making your point. That gives me more reason to ignore what you’re saying than the prevailing opinion that poor grammar and spelling implies a lack of education.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
by duwanis on Apr 6, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
to me their is a big diff
sorry but reading something in all lower case has never made anything hard to read for me. if certain grammar is important to getting my message through then i will use it. sorry if you have a problem understanding what i write, i know in reality though that if u can read, you can understand what im writing. you may say you cant or its a bit more difficult but im not buying it, maybe its just easy for me but i doubt it. also it is very annoying to hit the shift key, so yes i guess im lazy, but i also dont like pointless formalities. anyway feel free to skip over my post, its not like im saying anything important anyway.
by the way i still think we should of kept infante and got rid of mclouth instead, who yes is having a slightly better start this year but we could of had infante play rf and move heyward to center and i think infante would make a way better #2 hitter than mclouth. feel free to bash this last statement or just ignore it thx.
What?
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So you couldn't read your own title?
You remind me of this kid I went to middle school with. He was so childish. He argued just like you did — and sounded just as ignorant. But he was funny. Always made me laugh (unintentionally).
Sigh. He’s dead now.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
awwwww
sorry if i am ignorant to the fact some people cant read well and want to blame it on a lack of caps.
and dont worry one day i will be dead too just like the ignorant kid you went to school with so just be patient.
Don't tease me.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
When people type in alternating cases I can’t read it.
DON'T GO TO SLEEP EARLY OR JEFF FRANCOEUR WILL HAUNT YOUR DREAMS AND LOWER YOUR OBP. - Scott
Me too.
Sometimes it happens when people are spewing BS and/or trolling.
Gosh, I think all three are happening simultaneously! I’m instantly dyslexic when it comes to your posts.
"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB
You make it sound like we had a choice...
I highly doubt the Marlins wanted to touch McLouth with a 10-foot pole, given their owner’s stinginess and McLouth’s contract and 2010 performance.
The question isn’t would you rather have McLouth or Infante, it’s would you rather have Uggla or Infante…in which case I take Uggla, 100%.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
yeah
you could be right, but i was thinking we could of made the uggla trade work without losing infante but i could be wrong. I dont think the marlins were dying to have infante, i think both sides were ready to part and uggla wanted to play with his fav manager. but who knows maybe if the marlins dont get infante they dont trade uggla.
You may not have capital letters.
But you do have logical, well-thought out analysis. And for that, I thank you, good sir.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
oh god i used the wrong their!!!!!!
hate that!!!!!!!!!!! just makes me look stupid!!!!!!!!!!
there he is.
its not mine, its theirs!!!!
They’re so dumb!!!
their i showed you i know my theres!!!!
Except for the last 'their'
These are all true statements.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
lol that really was a messed up post
i was going to post one thing about the diff between diff types of errors but then i forgot and posted something else. god that was horrible i am going to ignore myself from now on.
Are you sure? I chuckled quite a bit at reading some of the banter…
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I have to admit that I was cracking up at work while reading some of them yesterday.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
If you do get banned, it won't be from me
For I have no problem with your astute observations and opinons in this matter.
However, this is a fan site, which is supposed to be about the fans, right? When did it change?
It has never changed. When baseball fan A decides to make a fanpost, he/she is exercising their inherent right to express their opinions, thoughts, and writing. But they have to realize that they are opening the floor to baseball fans B-Z, AA-ZZ, and so forth. I do not feel that it is any one particular party’s fault if the rest of the community of baseball fans have take it upon themselves to self-police the rest of the site and express their opinions, thoughts, and words in contradiction, disagreement, or disparaging of another baseball fan’s posted opinions, thoughts, and words. At this point, baseball fan A has three choices:
1. Flex those literary muscles, and do their best to engage in a debate, stand their ground, and debate, not argue.
2. Take their beatings, realize what brought the criticism upon them, and either choose to avoid such battles in the future, or realize that their case needs to be strengthened. Regardless, to learn.
3. Tuck tail between legs, and delete post
okay, 4. Troll
From what I observe, a lot of the remarks are oozing with sarcasm, and the rampant jokes that have taken somewhat of a life of their own throughout the seasons of this site. That’s somewhat of a sign of a community, and obviously, not everyone is comfortable and/or capable of getting off the bat. Excessive suppression of remarks from baseball fan QQ and R, because it would hurt A’s feelings, would be no different than taking shots.
What I suggest is simple – ignore those users who don’t care to read their posts. Some people may only pop up to make sarcastic or disparaging rebuttals, but never actually put themselves out there. Some people only choose to make educated posts, and are ready to defend them tooth and nail against all comers. It’s a diverse community full of a variety approaches, and you don’t have to like or dislike everything that is said by fellow fans, but it has never been, not about the fans.
I will disclaim this by saying that if I issue anyone warnings or delete their posts, I will identify myself as having done such. Otherwise, I typically let most things slide, because either things work themselves out on their own ultimately, or as is often times, I’m busy.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
What I suggest is simple – ignore those users who don’t care to read their posts.
That’s what I do. I try not to get embroiled in grammar debates or other hand-wringing if I can avoid it. Provided the poster in question is not saying anything openly derogatory to or about me, I stay out of the way.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
Nobody would ever say anything derogatory about you, you’re hilariously adorable.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Just like his comment about Posey being as cute as a box of puppies
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s not always the case. I’ve been the recipient of some harsh statements both here and elsewhere on SBN, and, of course, in real life. I never, ever assume people like me.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
I find thee generally of a most agreeable sort, and wouldst partake of a fine hoppy beverage with thee if ever we should chance to meet.

"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net
If that happens again
You tell them you have some internet friends that want to meet them. Then kindly ask them to sign up at SBN so that we can bash them from our mothers’ basements.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
Internet tough guys
You sker’d?
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Awesome!
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you post a pic? That little pic tag that makes the box asking for a URL disturbs me. My pics in my library don’t have URLs.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
as far as I know, you cannot post pictures directly from your files. TC only supports pictures that are linked elsewhere, simple html format as is the rest of the blog.
If you want to post a picture from your files, just upload the image to w/e your preferred uploader is, be it photobucket, or w/e (i am not knowledgeable on which website has the best image uploaded, I usually just bust out a google image search when posting a picture).
the picture box, even if the URL thing scares you, is the only way to upload pictures.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
This.
I like your internet persona...
Does that count?
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
It does, because my internet persona is me. My point is that I don’t engage in dialogue or behavior that I wouldn’t in person.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
'twas in jest, good sir.
I understand (and agree with) your outlook on the matter.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
Same here – I really am this much of a dick in real life…at least, that’s what people think when they first meet me – then they get to know me and realize that 90% of what I say is in jest.
Oh, and I don’t engage in very many statistical conversations off the interwebs for a couple of reasons.
1. No nerds exist outside the internet that I can talk about this stuff with.
2. I have to have BR.com
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
not true. I have known you for a couple of years… you are still a dick… i like you, but your a dick.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Dude, it’s been 5 years, not a “couple”.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh oh.
Sounds like somebody forgot an anniversary or three.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
Someone should buy that domain
We could use it to track all of the nicknames, inside jokes and pac’s made up stats.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
“i like you, but your you’re a dick.”
FTFY
/tongue-in-cheek
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s a sad state, but I assume it comes with the territory?
Not trying to be confrontational or offensive here, just making a general comment based on my observations of life.
Feel free to add or detract as you see fit.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I guess you could say that. If anything, I’ve been pleasantly surprised not to have been subjected to as many of those remarks as I thought I would.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
I like you TL2
because you’re funny and you speak the truth.
Posey was out. -TheLetter2 Apr 4, 2011 3:53 PM EDT
you're a good dude
and don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise. i hope we can catch a game in SF sometime if you ever make it out here.
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, s**t – i didn’t capitalize. however, i’m all about punctuation & spelling. flame on!
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I tried so hard
to find a spelling/grammatical/mechanical error in your post. Dammit.
;)
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
The way I see it
A kid like ChopMaster wants to write about baseball. He’s certainly made several attempts and nothing has killed his enthusiasm yet. If he is that serious about it then this can either help him realize the mistakes he makes or discourage him altogether. I think it’s up to him to take it on the chin and realize where the mistakes are, and learn from the mostly intelligent posters on this site. I haven’t seen any personal attacks, mostly just good natured ribbing and tough love on the areas he may be wrong about. Also, hopefully it will encourage him to clean his writing up if he wants it to be taken seriously. I’m not policing anyone myself, but some will dismiss a fan post if it has a lot of grammatical or punctuation mistakes.
As for the stupid trade posts that pop up from time to time, I think they should be ridiculed and the deleted.
Chopmaster has already improved greatly from his first post, and he’s started commenting in other threads instead of just creating a post specifically for his own thoughts. Another six months or so and he should have posts that can be read all the way through.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea
I’m certainly rooting for the kid since he does keep coming back for more punishment. Can’t question the effort, but definitely the execution needs work.
No doubt
He’s taken flack on his posts, but you can tell he’s improving.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Freedom of speech...
is a right and we all are blessed to have it. As a military member, I love what I do because I know that I am used to defend and protect those freedoms. For those who follow this blog daily, weekly, monthly or really at all… it is easy to see how one should break themselves into commenting. My first time, I was a little apprehensive (bring on the virgin jokes) and I finally opened myself up to the good natured comments that are bound to come to a new guy. If you’re not picked on in this blog, you’ve not arrived. I’ve gotten smarter with how I post and hopefully, the entertainment value on my posts is higher than boring. :-)
Regardless, moderators are out there to… moderate and it’s ok to be told not to go trolling. It’s their right… just as it is our right to troll, ridicule each other (hopefully good naturedly) and speak our minds.
Hopefully, y’all didn’t break out your American Flags and singing America the Beautiful or the Star Spangled Banner… :-)
Playing the military service card in the first sentence certainly helps, lol.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Trying again
You should have seen justin in his noob days:
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No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 6, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I Rec’d that so hard I just broke my mouse. Gambit is the best X-Men character by far.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You remember that???
Ha! I thought I was the only one who remembered that…at least, I was hoping I was.
Such a dumb Lt back then…
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember a lot of inconsequential stuff on this site
justin: Adam Dunn should bat lead-off
Smoltz’s Beard: (something about needing to spend 5 minutes to look up OPS)
justin: Too busy serving the country
justin: Adam Dunn should still bat lead-off
bigjoe: (something about genitals and rusty nails)
justin: I was in Afghanistan protecting the country while Dunn was working his way through the system
justin: (pulls military card out during internet argument as trump card)
internet adversary: (pulls out his own)
royhobbs: owned
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
by royhobbs on Apr 6, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lol.
Dunn would have been a fantastic lead-off option!
And you asshole, I didn’t go to Astan until this past year!
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
My bad
I must’ve been busy assisting constructing my local VFW’s website, since I’m a veteran
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
It really did backfire.
To be honest, I only remember doing it that one time – that’s all it took for me to learn my lesson.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
there are two things I remember about you when you joined….
the UNC> Duke post that lived in infamy.
and the Adam Dunn debate that literally expanded to about 7-10 different threads and had about 5 or 6 posters ready to choke you.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
All these stories
are just making me feel like I should be trying harder.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
you have certainly been lighting up the threads recently as a new member you have been doing pretty well. Seem to have avoided that rookie adjustment period, like a Jason Heyward of posters.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
So what you're saying is
as long as I don’t hurt my thumb, I’ll be ok?
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
ifyouhurtyourthumbsallyourpostswouldlooklikethis
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
And just think…he’s now expanded it to include 10-12 posters that are ready to choke him. I call that progress.
by dunnytwogloves on Apr 6, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
can’t remember the exact convo but pretty sure justin was saying that corey patterson was a better option early in the lineup than dunn. either way, i think he’s learned his lesson.
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 6, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
NO!
I was never in favor of Patterson.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t you fucking lie. i’d look it up right now if i wasn’t three sheets to the wind after the fucking screwjob the braves just went through. either way i’l look it up tomorrow…
"UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE 'EARNED RUNS' FOR NOURISHMENT"
by Smoltz's Beard on Apr 6, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
yes at one point you said you would rather have Patterson batting leadoff, bc he has a higher average.
or if it wasn’t you it was someone in that thread.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
I guess it had been about three months since somebody made a fanpost about how mean we are. It was about that time…
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com
I was about to say
Man, only five games into the 162-game season, I think that’s a new record.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
2 records in 3 days! WOOO!
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I won't be able to sleep tonight!
I can’t believe how much crap I’ve gotten for the trolling post. I find it kind of funny, actually.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Laugh at me all you want, I was serious about that one…
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry for being "that guy"
I’ve seen them come and go alot, too, but they do tend to have some sort of merit.
You guys can be rather ruthless sometimes. I wouldn’t normally have a problem with it, except the fans here are ruthless to one another instead of their natural rivals.
Maybe you guys could propose a NL West rivals site where people naturally go to troll and can make fun of other teams/players/fans and it is considered tolerable behavior.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Apr 6, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The NL West is for pansies.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
...after 1993, anyway.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
and World Series winners with great rotations and 250 pound guys named “panda.”
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
POSEY WAS OUT
</obligatory response to anything Giants-related>
"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net
TL2 in 5...4..3...2...
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
Surprised he hasn’t jumped on this yet.
"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB
TL2...
paging TL2, white courtesy phone……
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
You're not doing it right. Here, let me use the PA.
“Brian McCann.”
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
I knew there was a reason he hasn't shown up...thanks
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
So to speak…
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I also post on a SBN NL West blog as well…and K’s BJ has a point.
Purple Row is much more civil. However, it’s also a much smaller community with fewer newcomers (at least from what I’ve experienced…), so they don’t have too many randoms coming in from Yahoo/AJC/ESPN sites blathering nonsense.
It’s funny, over there someone posted a 90-9-1 blog theory, and it applies rather well. 90% lurk, 9% provide about 10% of the written content, and 1% makes up 90% of the comments on the site.
We do NOT have that over here. I don’t know how it breaks down exactly, but TC seems to have a much larger contingency of posters than many of those sites. Lurkers will always lurk, but I think the sheer amount of people posting here invites more to do so than you’d expect, even with the unkind banter and what-not.
From what I remember of MCC, they’re more of a 90-9-1 as well (but SSS on my reading…only spent time there regularly for the NLDS and the rest of the playoffs last season). I could be totally wrong on that, but I remember seeing the same names over and over again throughout the playoffs, with a few random posts from people I didn’t recognize sprinkled in. But, again, SSS.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
This makes me feel...
like I am a shark… Just sitting in the dark water… waiting for some dangly feet or something. Jeez. I don’t wanna feel like a stalker just because I read the site more than i post… :(
by Klemson Krash on Apr 7, 2011 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING
Did I do that right?
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
No, no, no
The ‘something’ is rusty, not the groin. You have your adjective in the wrong spot.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
we do all live in our mom’s basement, our groins may well be rusty.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Speak for yourself
My groin gets plenty of exercise, even if it isn’t with others.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
by Doghnut on Apr 6, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
TMI mate.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
...If it is
you may want to get a tetanus shot. Just sayin’.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
no basements
in the deep south
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll be honest
I post / have posted to the blogs for tons of teams; with the exception of the White Sox fans, I have been received well and have had good conversations and discussions with everyone, even with rival blogs at Amazin’ Avenue and TGP.
The thing is, the behavior of “treat guests well, trash your own” is not behavior that is exclusively here. The way I see it, is that whether or not you wish to accept it, as long as you’re a part of a common community, you’re like a member of a family. I’ve seen Cubs fans bicker about bullpen management and then degrade to personal attacks while lurking. Padres fans lambast their own for being too nice to Giants fans during a pennant race. Rays and Twins fans demonstrate some masterful statistic debates until one party would not budge on a stat, someone being called obtuse, and then the shit hits the fan.
But to me, most have been polite and respectful, because most of time, that’s the way I’m trying to engage them in the first place. I’m typically going onto their turf, so far be it for me to come in guns blazing, and demand that they adhere to my standards; it just doesn’t work that way.
Although I appreciate the kindness and hospitality from other teams’ blogs, it’s still a relationship predicated on good behavior answered by good behavior. I have to make effort and think extra before posting anything, because I don’t want to ruffle any feathers, and most of the time, since I’m an outsider, they demonstrate a similar courtesy. But amongst themselves, within their own, the pretenses and courtesies are down, much like we as people let our guards down amongst close friends and family. And its within these interactions, the jokes, ribbing, abrasive name calling, and “casual” language emerges, because still when the day is done, they’re all present and bickering because everyone has the most important thing in common – love for a common team.
The people who think we’re collectively being too rough, too mean, too arrogant, too snarky, too sarcastic – I’m not going to say, you don’t belong here, GTFO, but clearly there’s a discrepancy in opinion. It happens. But as is most of the time, a vast majority of the posting populous seems to agree/adhere, which is why it becomes majority acceptable.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
as always you are diplomatic and wise beyond your weight.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
What you did there --
I see it.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
I agree.
We should NEVER bash fellow Braves fans just because we disagree with their thoughts.
UNLESS…they post in a manner that “asks for it” by supporting their idea by attacking someone else’s.
But just because someone wants Fredi to bat McCann leadoff and our pitcher in the second spot does NOT give us the right to “attack” them for being stupid.
Please just point out (in what is normally some WONDERFUL statistical method on this site) why they are wrong.
Thanks!
Chicken pot, chicken pot, chicken pot pie!!
I disagree.
If anyone suggests batting the pitcher second they should be flamed off the internet.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
They should still be flamed
for not letting him bat leadoff to get the extra AB.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
^ This
He stealz basez
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
what if the pitcher is Gallardo, he had an 837 OPS last year?
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
SSS
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
true, but he is regarded as a very good hitter, the OPS may have been fluky but he is really good
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Has society really fallen so far as to consider these posts “attacks”???
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
No
it’s pretty much always been this way. We’ve just gotten to where we expose ourselves to it on a much more regular basis.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
You don't call being called a failure with a mocking pink darth vader pointing at you an attack?
They did less at Abu Gharib.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Apr 6, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Does this count as meeting Godwin's Law?
I feel like we may need to adjust it for these equations.
Seriously, cutesy image macros are nowhere near the level of torture. Or, if you’re just talking about the photographs that were leaked, cutesy image macros are nowhere near the level of personal embarrassment suffered by the subjects of those photographs.
If you don’t think they’re appropriate, that’s fine, but making this sort of comparison really isn’t helping your case.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
s/equations/situations
I know why our defense has been so great lately – I’ve absorbed all their errors.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
I was being sarcastic. I should have used my sarcasm font.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Apr 6, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn you
for dropping a sarcastic post in the middle of a serious conversation. :P
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
Alright...I changed my mind
I think he should be /banned for the sarcasm.
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone really should make a sarcasm font.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Apr 6, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know which bothers me more
the fact that I didn’t pick up on it, or the fact that I honestly thought that could be a serious post.
I blame it on you, for not posting more so that I’d have a good baseline.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
I thought I saw it on TC, maybe elsewhere..
when using sarcasm… insert a “~” before said statement
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
That was me
It’s how I express sarcasm in texts or IM’s.
It works using it ~before, after~, or ~surrounding~
Posey was out. -TheLetter2 Apr 4, 2011 3:53 PM EDT
Whooop, there it is.
I should have finished reading the conversation before jumping in.
Greeeat, now people are going to attack me.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
/Banned!!
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I would call that hilarious.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...the Vader gif had me rollin'
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt. I had never seen that one before.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Apr 6, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Either you forgot to use the sarcasm font, or you take life way too seriously.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I failed
to make my attempt at sarcasm much more obvious.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Apr 6, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
FailVader is an equal opportunity stupidity-pointer-outer. Of course, if he’s not doing it for you, I have other items in my snappy repertoire, including…
The Fail Train:

The Tommy Lee Jones Special:

The “Cries of Sexism” Bait:

And last but not least, the Fail Vader variant:

"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net
yo, its the interwebz
I’m all for decency and all that, but like everyone else said this is the internet and it is basically hazing, nobody hates anyone here, and nobody is intentionally trying to make people cry in the basement.
I’ve never liked the argument, “It’s the internet; therefore, we’re free to be assholes.” That’s illogical. Whether or not you can see them, the fact remains there are real, live people on the other side of that computer monitor, and they have the same DNA, thoughts and emotions that you do. They’re human. Perhaps nobody is intentionally trying to make someone cry, but it does happen. And the antagonist simply wraps himself in the cloak of “Oh, well. It’s the internet,” and goes on with his day.
I agree with the consensus here. Gently correct, but don’t flame. Help, but don’t denigrate. Argue, but don’t slander. The internet is an amazing tool for communication unlike one society has ever known. It doesn’t give one a free pass to be a jerk.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
It's remarkable how anonymity can change a person's demeanor
Anyone interested in this line of discussion may appreciate “You Are Not A Gadget,” by Jaron Lanier.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
In 2009, NPR’s On the Media ran an excellent piece on internet anonymity (specifically how it relates to 4chan and other message boards).
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
There was a follow-up piece in December ’10 that referenced that piece, and they actually interviewed Lanier about it. That was what convinced me to buy the book.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
I love science

Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.
sorry i came across as i did
was on an ipod as i was leaving class… im not justifying being an asshole, i’m just saying that you shouldn’t be surprised when you come across somebody on the internet being one.
if it makes you feel better
i am this smart, funny, sarcastic, caring, and funny (did i say funny already?) in real life
:D
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
In response to the Good Phight Post, because we weren't allowed to comment on that post
It’s bullshit. If I want to go to the Good Phight I am going to go there. Just because some people are asshats (for lack of a better word), that shouldn’t mean I will be banned because I go to another blog.
Some of you are naturally trolls and want to go to the Good Phight to pick a fight, because you have nothing better in life to do, and you should be banned for starting shit on another blog. But if I want to go to the Phillies fans and inquire about the progress Domonic Brown is making or some insight into Jonathan SIngleton, or any other number of things that a Phillies blog would be much more knowledgeable.
There is absolutely no justification for banning members of TC for commenting on the Good Phight if they are mature enough to conduct themselves like an adult. ANd if you can’t conduct yourself as such then you should be banned anyways.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
You misread the post
No one ever said you couldn’t go there. Just that you should be respectful if you do.
This has been clarified a few times by mvhsbball as well.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
I didn’t read the edit, I was pretty pissed off by that post after reading it when it was first posted…and since we weren’t allowed to comment, there was no way to get clarification.
ALl that anger and no where to display it now…
I apologize for jumping the gun I suppose.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
/BAND!!
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
is this spelling a joke? i sure hope so :)
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
You are just being smug in the fact that your Brew Crew looked good for the first time this season.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I have repeatedly stated I will root for whichever team the game is more important for.
In this case the game doesn’t mean more to either team bc its early in the year, so i support the Braves (my allegiances at 51% Braves, 49% Brewers).
Basically I am pysched Gallardo pitched well, bc of fantasy
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
As am I about Lowe – even though I didn’t get that mythical “W”.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
it's like a pegasus
or bigfoot. or jimmy hoffa
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
He only gets DLWs...
he didn’t get up enough runz
by Klemson Krash on Apr 7, 2011 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions
You pose a good point
and I don’t think anyone will ban you for it. Yet I think you overlooked what Justin said when you thought of what to say. Though it goes one step further than that. It’s not just a rite of passage to get ridiculed here, its a constant thing. Even regulars and well respected members of the community, who have been here for a long time get “dissed” and they could very easily whine and make a fuss, but they know its in good fun so they don’t take offense. For example:
How many times has someone called royhobbs any variety of 400 lbs/fat/etc?
How many times has royhobbs called cbwilk “cbtits”?
Over the past two days, how many times has TL2 heard “Posey was out”, even when it got in the way of an argument.
Just because someone new throws their hands up and whines to basically innocuous “disses” does not mean, at least imo, that we should change the way we act towards them.
This was always a complaint about Joe Morgan - he was great in large part because he got on base, but didn't buy OBP as a critical base stat for evaluating hitters. More proof that playing baseball at a high level doesn't mean you can evaluate it at that level.
-KLaw
You learn something new every day.
Here I was thinking cbtits was some other poster that I’d never seen before.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
The funny thing is that had nothing to do with me. bigjoe had a website called ‘ducktits’, who knows why, yet somehow I’m the one who got labeled cbtits. Oh TC, you so crazy.
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com
It’s because you and bigjoe used to have these homoerotic fascinations with your beards, and how they looked similar, and since bigjoe = ducktits, and you were cbwilk, cbwilk + ducktits = cbtits.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
It's science!
"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net
New to TC
I’m new to TC, only been reading about a month and only a member for a week or so, but I have yet to see anything that I took as a peronal attack against anyone. Maybe i’ve become desensitized after growing up in a world where I was tought to man up and fight bullies on my own, and took responsibility for any negative consequences thata resulted from my actions unlike the youth today, but I believe it’s been all in good fun.
This makes me want to go on a rant about the new society we’re fostering with this generation of kids, a professor is being sued for shutting a kid’s laptop in class because she said it was “assault” for crying out loud, but I am only 24 and don’t want all these people to think I’m a grandparent…
Heh, you did sound pretty old for a while there
You just have awesome parents/guardians/siblings/etc. Every generation has “their” problems
Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.
Generation is singular.
Man, i’m cruisin’ for a bruisin’ from the anti-grammar police crowd…
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m actually interested in what the change would be since I’m now trying to figure it out. I like to fix my grammar from time-to-time… :)
Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.
their = its
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
nice job
:D
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 10, 2011 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Finally that journalism degree came in handy.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
Obviously...
My online anger management is working.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
1502% agree
and I’m 22….and a GIRL!
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
T-W...nah...not the time for that ;o)
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
False
there are no girls on the internet.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
by duwanis on Apr 6, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sure there are
but you have to give your credit card number to watch them live on cam, remember?
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Pics or GTFO.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I like girls
or, at least, I keep telling myself that.
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
TWSS TWHS
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 7, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
One question: If I go to the post and edit it to say, “JUST KIDDING!” will you guys quit bitching about it? I’m being completely serious here.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
Are you talking about the TGP post?
Since some people apparently never saw the first edit, I don’t know that it’d do you much good, sadly.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
Yep.
I don’t really care anymore. All I did was try to improve our blog and the other SBN blogs, and I’ve gotten nothing but shit for it. I learned my lesson.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if you had thought before you posted it, you might have helped yourself and never needed to make an edit. You made this place look horrendous with that post.
by Diabolical BIZ on Apr 6, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Even if you don’t agree with it, you should at least respect that he was trying to improve things.
In my eyes, the only thing that had any bearing on “making this place look horrendous” was the fit people threw when they were asked to be civil.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
Thanks for always supporting me.
It’s nice to know at least a few people appreciate what I do for this blog on a daily basis.
In the last week (while gondeee was gone), I’ve typed nearly 10,000 words of recaps, previews, stories, etc. I do this in my free time. I don’t get paid to do this. I don’t get any college credit for doing this. I do this for fun. But then I have people like Diabolical Biz giving me shit for a post I made when all I was trying to do was improve our blog. It kind of makes me wonder why I do it.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW, what’s the difference between you becoming an editor and the moderators?
May opinion never overcome facts as well as sense and logic, but be there to show people what you think and feel in your mind and body.
Just allows me to fix things on the site if something goes wrong.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't thank me yet
I’m just waiting for you to screw up.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
I'll probably do it sooner or later.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be watching. And waiting.

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
LOL
IS THAT YOU UNCLE MIKE?
Dude looks just like my uncle.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That's hilarious
I just GIS’d “hiding around the corner” and that was the first serviceable image.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
Nice! That's two!
Can I get a third? Anyone?
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
FOURTH
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
Bravo gang!
I appreciate it.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Nyegative FIF!!
Back to square one, schmuck.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Apr 6, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I just can’t catch a break here. I’m like a puppy chasing his tail.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
If I didn’t think you were a good guy, I wouldn’t have taken the time to type “fif” into google images…
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Even though you’re a Nebraska fan, you’re alright by me.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s a Rec and how do you do it?
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Click on actions...
then you’ll see a “REC” button. Click on that…you’re golden.
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just did. What is the purpose of Rec-ing?
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
by ChopMaster on Apr 6, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ever see a post that's green on here?
It just means you’re recommending a post by someone. If it’s THAT good, in your opinion, Rec it.
I’ll rec yours, just because…welcome to the club!
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe it's 3 or more
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
5
just guessing. haha
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
recommending
Its the green thumb, my friend
by Santaklose11 on Apr 6, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Like I recommend we trade for Chen Ming Wang? jk
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
True, true...
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Or we'd flag him
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHA.
I read it and assumed you had been asked to do the post. I never would have known it was your idea until you told us.
I didn’t mind it, it wasn’t that bad an idea. I just think that when it comes to Phillies fans, it wouldn’t make that much of a difference. I lived there (as a Braves fan) for 5 years and I can tell you that they, as a general rule, are never going to be happy.
In my opinion, the writers here at Talking Chop always do a great a job and I certainly appreciate the time they take out of their personal lives to provide the fans with in depth coverage and statistics. Great commentary, facts and general enterainment are all I can ask for.
Great Job mvhsball!
"Let's just play the damn games already!" said by Me
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Apr 6, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks!
Like 45 days until Chase…
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You have your tix yet? I should have caught you earlier I might have a couple next to me that I’m not going to use (except for elbow room).
"Let's just play the damn games already!" said by Me
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Apr 6, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s all good man we got a sweet deal on Stubhub. 4 seats about 20 rows up from the 1B dugout for like $25 a piece for both games. Only catch was you had to buy all 4, but I’ll just sell ‘em cheap to a scalper if I can’t give them away.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You should be right below me again. (No TWSS please). I look forward to meeting you this year.
"Let's just play the damn games already!" said by Me
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Apr 6, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
TWHS then?
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHA.
Very nice!
"Let's just play the damn games already!" said by Me
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Apr 6, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you...thank you...
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I still need to get my tix. I’m so bloody lazy.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahah…you said blow you…
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
huh-huh...hmm

Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I know and I'm a horrible person.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, seriously. Don’t get all defensive and play the whole “I don’t get paid to do this” card. I’d like to think you’re above that sort of thing since you do contribute to the site a lot.
The fact that you do this in your free time does not grant you immunity from complaints when you post something like this….
“If you go over there and post, you’ll either be:
1.) Given your first and final warning.
2.) Banned temporarily. — Gondeee has to un-ban you if this happens, and we’ve all seen how lazy of a journalist he can be. It might take a while to get back on TC.
3.) Banned permanently."
Seriously, man. I’m not trying to be a jerk here. I’m not sitting here trying to make you out to be a bad person. I’m simply pointing out that even with the bet intentions, your original post really did look bad and that any attempt you made to improve this place fell extremely flat with some people when you typed those words above.
by Diabolical BIZ on Apr 6, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I never thought anything negative about that post. It appeared excruciatingly obvious that he meant don’t go onto other blogs and harass people.
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
That was my take on it as well
…and if you do decide to do so, then you deal with the consequences from the mods, Gondee, whomever. Basically – you make your bed, you lay in it. It’s as simple as that, really.
While I appreciate where you’re coming from, Diabolical, I think you’re in the minority here.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And I as well.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, the original post wasnt all that obvious
“If you go over there and post, you’ll be banned” does not mean “If you go over there and post and act like an ass, you’ll be banned”
With that said, the miscommunication has been cleared up now, so theres no reason to bitch about it.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
When you read that one sentence out of context, yeah
otherwise, the point was pretty clear.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
You should re-read it
He says several times not to go there at all, period:
We’ve all gone over there at one point or another, and regardless of if you intended to “troll” or not, nothing good can come from it.
Talking Chop has a ton of info on a daily basis and there’s no reason to go onto a rival’s website.
Stick to TC and hang out with your e-neighborhood Braves fans!
That’s on top of what was mentioned earlier. It is not unreasonable to read it and think that we suddenly aren’t allowed over there at all.
Personally, I love mhv (as much as I can love a man I met on the internet and have never spoken to in person), but he did not originally write what he intended to say. It was entirely reasonable for some of us to be confused and get a little offended that TC suddenly decided what websites we are and aren’t allowed to visit.
Again, with that said, it’s all been cleared up now. If someone hasn’t bothered to read the edit, then they should do so. It’s all pointless bitching at this point. But the original confusion was entirely, 100% understandable.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
by Doghnut on Apr 6, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love mhv (as much as I can love a man I met on the internet and have never spoken to in person),

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, in the context
I thought it was pretty clear who his audience was. I’m not saying it couldn’t have been worded better, and I’m not saying that confusion wasn’t understandable. But asserting (as some have done) that it was short-sighted and idiotic to post what he posted is just silly.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
And she's a girl!
Aren’t they suppose to be sensitive???
I’m not sayin’ im just sayin’!
That may be,
but I never intended to get everyone all pissed off. It was a poor writing job on my part to not be more specific the first time around, and I hope people saw the edit.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I know you didn’t intend to piss everyone off. I don’t doubt that you did it with good intentions, but like you said, it was the execution. Just needed to be clear on the front end that you didn’t want people going there and stirring up shit.
And while I knew that’s what you meant when I first saw it, the post still looked bad because of how it was written. I’d be willing to bet that you give your posts an extra look in the future, lol.
by Diabolical BIZ on Apr 6, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I did. Yet, I must say
it doesn’t change the fact that you’re an insufferable schmuck.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Forever and always.
Just me and my boy Fuqua on TGP.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
At least you're known for something
I, however, need to come up with some mind-numbing post so that someone can toss a moniker my way, so I may put it in my sig.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Like me?
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
No sah
I wasn’t referring to you a’tall.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just Rec’d so hard I sweated.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
TWSS
Sorry…you walked into it.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Peter Moylan! I didn’t know you were on TalkingChop? You’re amazazing!
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Thanks, but I can't take credit for it.
It’s all Dave’s doing.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't care about philly phans enough
to go to that site and say anything. not worth my time when i have so many people here with whom to converse.
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, Scott
I think it was a good post. I wouldn’t give you any shit for it because I agreed with your sentiments 100%
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Just trying to make the blogs a better place. It’ll be off the front page automatically in about 8 hours. Hopefully that’s the last of me making this blog look bad. I’d certainly hate to do it again.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
How did you make this blog look bad, exactly?
Let other blogs troll. We don’t need that shit.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
“I’d certainly hate to do it again until next time,” you mean.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
LOL FTFY?
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Then you should start showing some efforts in your writing, cut out the lazy journalism and stop being an insufferable schmuck!
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Bravo Sir. (Im assuming with a name "Kellys Big Johnson" you are a sir)
My sentiment exactly. I posted on TheFalcoholic the other day, a post congratulating them on running a good blog. Here’s a quote:
“I just wanted to congratulate Dave for running a terrific site. This extends to the commentors as well. Since its Baseball season and I am also a huge Braves fan, I have been spending more time reading DOB’s blog, TC, and CAC. All of the above have condescending writers (although talented), and that bleeds into their condescending attitude towards commentors. I have not been treated badly when commenting, but that doesn’t mean I don’t see it when they answer other commentors posts.”
I think this is the problem. The writers and moderators (talkingCops er whatever) are so arrogant. It almost turns me away. I really don’t post. I just see so many people treated badly around here (and its not just this site).
At least CAC has a blog that is specifically designed for his posts, not really commenters. He freely admits that he bans people because he’s an a$$. Thats ok. Its his blog. TalkingChop I assumed was formatted the way it is to encourage reader responses, and posts.
Some people take themselves way too seriously.
by BabyGoatEater on Apr 6, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
You’ve obviously been spending way too much time in the cutesy world of baby goats.
"Let's just play the damn games already!" said by Me
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Apr 6, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw chefs cooking goat on Chopped last week and it looked good. They say it is a tough meat, although I imagine the kids are much more tender.
"Let's just play the damn games already!" said by Me
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Apr 6, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd.
Again, freedom of speech. A person shouldn’t be banned from a blog unless they post something outrageously offensive. At the end of the day, I am okay with trolling(although it is annoying) and personal attacks. After all, people are only expressing their opinion.
"Sports is human life in microcosm."
Howard Cosell
I dont think you get FoS on a blog owned by another person.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
Correct.
Freedom of Speech applies only to your constitutional rights concerning our legal system. You can say whatever you want, with a few caveats like slander/libel, and inciting riots. Same for Freedom of Expression, which is essentially the nonverbal FoS, but with a couple caveats as well.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
and on the Good Phight
Did they ask for TalkingChops support with moderating? Can they not get enough moderators of their own? Why are the TalkingCops changing jurisdiction all of a sudden?
After my first post “If I were Frank Wren” I was trashed so hard I felt like Kenshin Kawakami feels right now. Neglected, hated, and not loved. I felt like a homeless man in Times Square. But, as I tried hard to improve my posts, I saw that the comments weren’t so negative. Some told me themselves my posts were improving. Others outlined my problems in a “hey, I’ll help you iron out your wrinkles” that was more positive than people ready to digitally kill me.
May opinion never overcome facts as well as sense and logic, but be there to show people what you think and feel in your mind and body.
I've mentioned it before...
I’m glad you’ve stuck around. I think I joined here when I was 18 or 19 and you can definitely catch some crap for being younger. You mean well, and I appreciate all of the contributions you make.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Thoughts...
I’ve been known to throw out a personal attack here and there in the heat of discussion, but have also done some work to improve the language surrounding those attacks to make them less offensive and less personal, in general. I still call ideas moronic or foolish, and will occasionally call someone a moron or fool. On the other hand, if I’m wrong, I don’t hesitate to place those very same titles upon myself. That’s only fair.
One thing I’ve decided to continue doing despite my new approach is point out when someone says something that’s just plain dumb. If you’re railing on McLouth’s batting average or Sea Bass’s OBP after four games, that is a clear indication that you may be a moron and I’m not afraid to tell you just that. If you want to criticize their approach at the plate or their fielding technique, super. That’s at least a fair criticism. Saying Nate McLouth is bad at baseball five games into the season, however, is just plain stupid. Don’t expect me to sugarcoat that rebuttal.
In the end, it’s about an exchange of respect. If I disagree with someone, I should and do voice my stance without making offensive/personal comments. If they approach the discussion with piss-poor facts backed by a piss-poor attitude, they’re probably going to get the horns.
I don’t think my case is any different than most around here. If your opinion is dim and without merit, expect someone to criticize it. If you don’t like that criticism and rebut with vitriol, expect some in return.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
you are an idiot.
it felt right, don’t judge me
:)
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
by Swo12bv on Apr 6, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
On the contrary...
Rec’ed.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Yeah, you’ve called me some ruthless things a couple times…for no apparent reason
"I'm gonna get drunk and play video games till my eyes bleed"- It's Always Sunny in Philly
On the contrary...
There’s always a reason.
In your case, the only thing I can think of are OMGZORS TEH WORLD IS GOING TO END THIS IS SO HORRIBLE-type posts. Or maybe a bad idea or two.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I remember one, cause I said CarGo is a solid player out of Colorado, rather than the “star” he is hahah silly stuff
"I'm gonna get drunk and play video games till my eyes bleed"- It's Always Sunny in Philly
If you said solid, I wouldn’t have objected. I’m in full agreement that CarGo is a star player in Coors and above-average outside of Colorado.
Now, if you said he’s only good because of Coors and he’d only be league-average or worse if he played for another team, we’d have issues. He’s still well above league average when away from those friendly confines and I think he’d still be a star…basically, he’s a Matt Holliday type, not a Garrett Atkins type.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
He’d still be a very good player anywhere he goes, but not the elite player he is now
"I'm gonna get drunk and play video games till my eyes bleed"- It's Always Sunny in Philly
Maybin, Maybin not...
Matt Holliday’s done just fine since moving away from Coors…his home stats dropped, but his road stats rose to match it.
I have no reason to believe the same wouldn’t be true for CarGo, as Holliday’s early splits were easily as large as his.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
until CarGo learns plate discipline he is not a star
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
When his BA is higher than most people’s OBP, walks are just icing on the cake.
And, SSS be damned, he has more walks so far this season than all but one Atlanta player (Heyward), in two fewer games. It’s important to note that all games have been home games, and he draws walks considerably better at home.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
This.
I think scouting reports/pitchers approaches will catch up with him and he’ll have a rough year. Not saying he still won’t be a great player, but he’ll have to re-adjust after pitchers learn to attack him better.
"Is Prince Fielder a legitimate threat to your bag of potato chips?" -Bronn (Braun?)
I personally think that the only reason people are claiming that interactions over the internet should not be different from real life interactions is because of the frequency that the users here use the former.
The reality is that you talk to people in letters (not that any of us have written a physical letter this decade) and on the phone differently than you would talk to someone standing in front of you. Furthermore, you would talk to a stranger differently than your best friend.
These are all facts and by extension of these facts people interact on the internet differently than they do in other mediums. While this might not seem to be the case given the regularity of interactions on the internet for most of us it certainly is a truth.
One of the charming things about the internet (and this blog as a microcosm of that) is that it is a medium that allows for unique expression and appeals to specific personalities.
As someone who loves a good one liner the internet provides an interesting way to interact.
But the real point is that all of these different ways of interacting take practice or experience, socializing ( I hope you all appreciate the irony) really.
So rather than taking your experience and bashing someone less experienced over the head with it, why not appreciate that our lovely little community is expanding?
/Reading off
A difference in medium does not imply a difference in message.
The degree to which I communicate differently with you over the internet, as opposed to in person, is largely in these areas:
1) I have to be more conscious of spelling and grammatical errors.
2) I can insert hilarious captioned pictures of cats to help get my point across, or make further use of the “hypermedia” approach that the internet allows.
3) I have time to sit down and compose my thoughts before responding to you, as this is an asynchronous conversation and not one that requires my immediate response.
4) Without the aid of body language or vocal inflection, I have to rely on other conventions or cues to indicate emotion, sarcasm, jest, etc.
There are a few other minor differences, but these are the big four.
None of those differences allow for me to treat you any differently than I would treat someone I bump into at the Ted and start talking baseball with.
The real difference is that you are, for all practical intents and purposes, anonymous as a user on this site. That provides a separation from consequence that is fairly liberating. The drunken fratboy behemoth sitting next to me at a game bellowing about how Moylan is our worst man out of the ‘pen might do damage to me when I disagree with him, but since none of you know where I live or what I look like, I’m free to plead my case without fear of retribution. An extreme example, I know, but it serves the point.
The problem is that people take that anonymity as license to act on urges that they otherwise wouldn’t dream of indulging. That’s what we’re talking about here, I think, and not that the internet itself is inherently prone to vicious conversation.
</ramblyrant>
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
First of all I love your 4 points, very interesting and true rules about a form of interaction we very rarely think of.
But there is an additional point you are missing. The reason that medium is so important is that past interactions in part define future interactions. This is true regardless of medium and is a major part of socializing. However, on the internet there is very little common socializing. This implies that there are more differences in the type of internet interactions (while this is a bit of hyperbole imagine two people trying to talk in different dialects with certain similiarities) than there might be in the everyday interactions of people who are experiencing many of the same things.
I do not agree that medium does not change meaning. It absolutely does. Whether it is the most important Ask any artist who chooses oil over ink or try to say SSS to someone on the street without realizing that medium is as important as word choice (and lots of times there is a connection.)
But another important point is that this blog, to a certain extent, binds us and provides some of that uniform socializing that separates the internet from other mediums. So the important part that we should consider is that, much like you would consider your city or school as your community you should also consider this blog as your community and treat it as such.
However, on the internet there is very little common socializing. This implies that there are more differences in the type of internet interactions (while this is a bit of hyperbole imagine two people trying to talk in different dialects with certain similiarities) than there might be in the everyday interactions of people who are experiencing many of the same things.
I would disagree with this. There’s common socializing all over the internet – just look at the rash of memes that have spread either across the internet as a whole (rickrolling, for example) or across certain communities in particular (just look around you at TC for examples). This functions just the same as common socializing in any other “real life” community, like a group of friends, high school, political party, what-have-you. The only difference here is the medium.
I do not agree that medium does not change meaning. It absolutely does. Whether it is the most important Ask any artist who chooses oil over ink or try to say SSS to someone on the street without realizing that medium is as important as word choice (and lots of times there is a connection.)
You have to be careful here, because you’re equivocating between syntax and semantics. There’s a big difference between what I say and how I say it. To take your painting example, just because my style lends itself to using a watercolor to paint an evocative landscape doesn’t mean that the same landscape can’t be conveyed using enamels or charcoal. These are differences in the delivery – that is, in the syntax – rather than differences in the actual meaning, or semantics.
Your example of SSS isn’t tied to the medium, it’s tied to this community. I could walk up to almost any member of this site in person and use SSS, TWSS, pelican, or any number of other conversational conventions that we’re familiar with here and they would understand what I’m talking about. The message isn’t restricted based on the medium, it’s restricted based on the community itself.
But another important point is that this blog, to a certain extent, binds us and provides some of that uniform socializing that separates the internet from other mediums. So the important part that we should consider is that, much like you would consider your city or school as your community you should also consider this blog as your community and treat it as such.
This is the problem, though: there’s little to no cost for disrespecting the community. If I disrespect my town, or my school, or my neighborhood, then there are tangible, unavoidable costs there – I may get arrested, expelled, or shunned by my neighbors, respectfully. If I disrespect this community, though… none of you know who I really am. It would take all of five minutes for me to get signed up again with a different account after I get banned. This is a side-effect of the medium, perhaps, in that the medium allows for anonymity – but it’s not an inherent aspect of the medium.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
First let me say that I’m enjoying this discourse. Its entertaining and I’m enjoying the conversation immensely.
I think we are agreeing more than we think.
I think the part that we disagree on is defining meaning and medium and defining their interaction.
A separate point is that I believe you are undervaluing non-verbal communication and syntax.
Syntax and things like SSS are a product of the community, a community that exists only on the medium of internet.
Without responding to specifically to your arguments (for lack of time) let me say that I believe that this community is a product of the medium. While it might not be unique to the medium, this community is without a doubt a product of the internet (obviously and not-so-obviously)
I think we are agreeing more than we think.
I don’t think we’re disagreeing very much. I’m just picking nits. :)
I think the part that we disagree on is defining meaning and medium and defining their interaction.
Not sure we disagree on definitions, here… it’s just a question of how inextricably linked you consider the two to be.
A separate point is that I believe you are undervaluing non-verbal communication and syntax.
I’d never do such a thing. :) I’m curious as to how you drew that conclusion.
Without responding to specifically to your arguments (for lack of time) let me say that I believe that this community is a product of the medium. While it might not be unique to the medium, this community is without a doubt a product of the internet (obviously and not-so-obviously)
A community is always a product of its circumstances, and the medium through which it is predominantly formed is definitely one of those circumstances. I have no problem granting that, any more than I’d have issue granting that the community of friends you had in school was predominantly formed by the circumstance of your age/grade and which classes you were taking. That doesn’t mean that the general rules, or laws, or whatever you’d like to call them about how a community interacts are somehow different just by virtue of us meeting on the internet instead of a school cafeteria.
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
I’m not equating the difference in medium to a difference in language for example.
I’m not even saying it is all that different, just making sure that we agree that it is indeed different, creating different products and circumstance.
The only way you might be undervaluing non-verbal communication is if you dont think that this medium (the internet) being unable to express non-verbal communication in a way we understand (keep in mind this includes socializing factors and evolution- for instance “sensing” nervousness) meaning non-emoticons for example, makes this medium different enough to change meaning.
As a corollary since we have to do things to express meaning as a result of a lack of means in the medium (mmmmmm….if this was outloud for instance you would appreciate the alliteration more) such as /sarcasm etc then we are adjusting our speech to fit the medium.
At that point you have to say that medium has a pretty big effect on meaning.
But I think each of us being the litigious sort we are merely debating the scale of the effect.
You're proving my point, though
Medium can only affect syntax. The fact that you’re being sarcastic doesn’t change – the meaning is still the same in both cases. What changes is the exact mechanism you use to convey that meaning – in person, you’d use a particular inflection or set of body language cues. On the internet, you’d either use a /sarcasm tag or trust that, given my understanding of your writing style, I can infer that you’re being sarcastic. But that’s all syntax – the semantic issue (that is, that you’re being sarcastic) is the same in all cases.
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I have no idea what you two are arguing about, but there are way too many words in this string.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
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by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Incredibly important stuff
C’mon, KoG, try to keep up.
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HAHAH! I was thinking the same exact thing.
I was Z’ing through the thread, got to that mass of words and Z’d right on passed it. AWWW HELL NO!
"This stadium is upside down!!!" -Jim Powell, 4/5/2010
I’m not sure that captures what I am intending to state (I’m trying to multi-task unsucessfully) but lets ignore that for the moment and focus this discussion on effect.
First, along with syntax I agree with your 4 points above with emphasis on a few areas:
First: that non-verbal communication is integral to overall communication and much of it is inaccessible online (while you can indicate certain things more easily on the internet you can say them with your mouth or inadvertently with body language etc).
Therefore there is automatically a part of human communication (which society and evolution have armed us with) that is lost in the internet medium.
Secondly: Writing is largely a developed skill much like language but is given much less practice especially in childhood. Without arguing too much about how much of socialization happens during childhood we must agree that people practice communication in ways other than writing (talking face to face, telephone etc).
We can assume then that some people might be unable to express each other as much. Since internet is purely written word we can assume this medium thus affects how/how well people can communicate and express themselves.
Thirdly: The internet is a big place and within this medium there is a huge amount of variety. Just like in real-life (I hate that term but its usable) there are a wide variety of communities on the internet.
Just as there is difficulty interacting amongst the communities on the globe (like lets say someone from Atlanta trying to communicate with farmers from a small village in China. While perhaps not as drastic on the internet (unless you speak different languages which is probably more common online than in person for most which is an interesting thouoght) since those of a community online are likely (but not necessarily) speaking the same language, the point is that there are vast differences in communication even within this medium which invariably affects medium and the quality of communication.
And KoG this is meta-replying, join in and we’ll get you a special thinking hat.
Non-verbal communication is integral to overall communication
This is inaccurate. If you were to say “Non-verbal communication is relied on heavily in normal communication,” I would accept that. To say that it’s necessary for proper communication, however, is a fabrication, as evidenced by the fact that we’re communicating just fine right now :)
We can assume then that some people might be unable to express each other as much. Since internet is purely written word we can assume this medium thus affects how/how well people can communicate and express themselves.
This is a fair point, but it’s hardly exclusive to the internet. Some people have trouble expressing themselves over the phone, because they’ve learned to rely on visual cues. Some people have trouble expressing themselves in person, because they don’t have fully developed social skills. For any given medium of communication, there will be people who excel at expressing themselves using that medium, and there will be people who have great difficulty at expressing themselves using that medium, and there will be a whole host of people who run the gamut between.
the point is that there are vast differences in communication even within this medium which invariably affects medium and the quality of communication.
You lost me here.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
First point: perhaps integral was an overstatement, how about important? We aren’t speaking in absolutes, I’m trying to determine the affect and saying that there is enough of a difference that medium is affecting communication and therefore meaning.
Second point: I agree with you because I believe you are agreeing with me. The point isnt that it is exclusive, the point I was making is that it is present. Rather than any of my points being the totality of my argument, or really making my argument, they are all just part of why the internet, as a medium, is a different form of communication (either than what we are used to or what is achieved) and that these differences are not insignificant.
The third point: I was trying to tie together the fact that just as people of different communities might have trouble communicating in real life that this also relevent to the internet. But without geography limiting interactions you must agree that the impact is more severe. The last sentence was merely me impacting the argument.
I way disagree on your last point then. In real life, you can’t get away from people who disagree with you… but you can on the internet.
Example: on this site, I’m surrounded by hundreds of Braves fans. This is true no matter where I am, geographically. If I lived in, say, San Diego, I’d probably be the odd man out.
The internet allows you to find communities of like-minded people no matter where you are or how obscure your tastes are. That’s its great power as a means of communication, and also potentially its greatest threat (as it allows people to “hole up” and ignore anything they don’t like).
But now we’re way off-base. :)
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
In my original point I conceded that the communities (much like geographical communities) will be linked by a common factor. But even conceding that, everything on the internet can be accessed by anyone at any time. So while communities like TC are linked by a common thread, they are in no way homogenous.
Even if you argue that we are more similar than different because we are fans of the same team, people learn to communicate (and do communicate) differently. Add in the fact that we are from a variety of geographical locations I’m going to have to argue that we are more different than if we were (as you envisioned earlier) sitting in the same cafeteria.
We both agree there are barriers in communication, my point is that the internet as a medium is largely responsible for these barriers. Also I think you seem to see the internet as very similar to other forms of communication, while I argue they are more similar than different, the differences are key and what I’m stressing.
i don't know
what “SSS” or “pelican” means
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Small Sample Size
And Pelican refers to this pic:
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We were using it so much, that we just started saying ‘pelican’.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
It was funnier when we had the Pelicans in our system.
"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net
I wrote an actual, physical letter
just the other day. Then I sealed it in what’s called an “envelope,” which acts as somewhat of a transport/protective device. Then I affixed a “stamp” to it after writing a mailing address to it. This allows the item to be shipped via gas-powered vehicle to a place other than my own.
Then the recipient read it, and sent me a text saying that it made her day.
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
what the hell are you talking about?!?!?
letter? envelope? stamp? im confused….
You wanna get high? Don't forget to bring a towel!
If it wasn’t for TC, I would’ve been fired already for sleeping at my desk.
Thumbs up, TC, for keeping me awake and alert at work.
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Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
Same here
My job tends to get boring…this helps!
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I am seriously so tired at work today it’s unreal….
I’m seriously contemplating looking for a new job. This one just does not keep me busy enough.
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
I seriously used the word seriously too many times just then.
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
So seriously, you're being serious?
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
So uh...what sort of job do you do
that makes it boring?
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably desk work. Glad i won’t have to do it with the education I’m getting right now.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Hush over there, youngster!!
You’re making me feel old.
/banned
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s def desk work.
The thing is, when I have something to do, I enjoy it.
But there’s a lot of my day that is spent just waiting on something to do…
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
Ah...I see
Welp…at least you have us at TC to keep you occupied. That’s what I turn to when i’m bored here.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Essentially, I’m getting paid to look at this website.
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
WINNING
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It is pretty sweet, isn’t it?
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
Indeed it is
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s accounting stuff.
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
TC > accounting stuff
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
by ChopMaster on Apr 6, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're learning, young one
The force is strong with this one.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Strong enough to do a green post?
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
tis a possibility, sah
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade for Cole Hamels! Call the press! Order a conference!
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
April Fools?
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
OK...I'm about to cry
because it might be my first green on TC.
I’d like to thank the Academy for making this possible.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe I'm on my own
But if I see or read bad ideas about baseball I will more than likely respond, regardless of who wrote it and their age. If nothing more than to educate them on what the odds actually are in a given situation or what my opinions on the matter are, a response to their bad ideas is usually appropriate.
Of course people do not need to be ripped for their responses. But they should also read other posts and comment there before they venture out to starting their own posts.
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio Stop calling Tommy Hanson "Big Red"
Just imagine if I came to this site to talk about Braves baseball…
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com
This is a site for Braves baseball?
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What the heck would you do that for? There are other things to talk about, like public transportation, fried chicken, rusty nails, beer and lamasaurus(es)!
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You forgot about the cookies
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
and my dog.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 6, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
ok first off beer and fried chicken are both delicious and should be talked about frequently because they merit discusion
Second, we talk about video games a lot
third, at some point wrestling is often mentioned
Fourth, the thread on BBQ might be the best thread we have ever had
So shut up Justin. :)
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Also...
How do you take a line out of one post or comment and put it into a gray box in your own??
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
It's in the formatting guide
type in bq . (take the space out between the bq and the period) and then paste your sentence after that. Like gis:
How do you take a line out of one post or comment and put it into a gray box in your own??
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Dah crap...reply fail Chop...but you get the idea
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
type in bq . (take the space out between the bq and the period) and then paste your sentence after that. Like gis:
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
you can also clik the picture of the quotes and then inset the text between the html code
< blockquote> this < /blockquote>
it will look like that (without the spaces after the “<”)
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Tanks, Mayt!
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Geesh...another reply fail
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
OK here goes.
I’m fairly new to posting on this site, yes. But the key phrase in that sentence is ‘to posting’, as in, generally when joining any large community site you should follow a protocol before posting: lurk. Lurking for a month or so has done huge things for my understanding of the jokes, lingo, etc. of TC (of course, being here 2-3 years ago under a different handle [I forgot that account’s password] helped, but that’s beside the point). It also lets a new user see what is a good post and what is not, and how to make a FanPost (pretty much the process ChopMaster is going through right now; his problem is that he probably didn’t lurk enough to test the waters).
All in all, lurking is one of the best ways to ensure you don’t make yourself look like an idiot on an Internet community. If you didn’t lurk or just didn’t get it even if you lurked, you leave yourself open to the sarcasm, joking, deletion, etc. that has populated the two FanPosts in question. When this happens, all you do is take it in stride and continue to learn from your mistakes like ChopMaster is doing his best to do right now. Eventually you will learn, and even if you don’t, people will respect you for your effort; if you do, you can become a respected member of the community (to the best of my knowledge, this is what happened to justin. Correct me if I’m wrong).
"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB
Yep,
Lurking is the only way to avoid getting flamed out of any board/blog/etc. These communities are usually pretty tight and frown upon those who don’t blend in.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Also completely unrelated to us. But it's fun to make fun of Phillies fans.
This is a great example of someone not lurking. And failing.
"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB
One of those times where it feels good to say “at least i’m not THAT”
by GumpBrave on Apr 6, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Holy sheep shit
My brain is now on fire for trying to decipher that post. I smell smoke.
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by DolphinNation on Apr 6, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd that Dolphin Nation. After seeing the great variations between capital letters and lowercase letters, and how it was randomn, I, uh, I....
..NomiNaTE ThAT pEEc oF rANDdomNeSS aS tHE rOStErBaTIOn pOSt 4 tHE pHIllIes FAns!
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
We should've never told him about Reccomending things.
it’s too much power, it’s gone to his head.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
by duwanis on Apr 6, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This This This This
I agree with that so much I Rec’d it!
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
O God.
This could get ugly.
"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB
IKR
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Seriously though, Rec-ing too much kind of cheapens it. Save it for the truly great posts.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 6, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously though, Rec-ing too much kind of cheapens it. Save it forthe truly greatcthabeerman’s posts.
FTFY.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Apr 6, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can I leave out the “-C”?
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Yes, you don’t have to put -C on anything.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
It makes me feel like a teacher giving you a C minus.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
I wish more sites would encourage this.
TC (and presumably SBN blogs in general) kind of encourage this with the 4-day waiting period before you can post… but that’s not really the main point of the waiting period, and it’s never made explicit. It’s always cool to see a site that says “hey, you might want to just hang out and watch for a bit before you try to join the fun.”
"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs
Completely agree.
It’s not really clear why it’s there, so it doesn’t help the newbies at all. Clarifying it as ‘letting new users get used to the community’ would somewhat help, but I actually think that SB Nation, or at least TC, should write up a general newbies help post that establishes guidelines for posting, behavior, etc. It would make the transition from blog to blog and newbie to established user a lot smoother.
"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB
Of course
Not a knock on our fine mods and writers here, nor anything at all critical. It was just an idea I had while typing.
[/kissing up]
"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB
There are
There are four buttons underneath the FanShots that are for newcomers. Clearly, gondeee needs to bump these up higher on the sidebars for the influx of newcomers to hopefully see easier.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
I think those are fine
I certainly saw them right away and looked through them. But there are two kinds of newbie problems – there are the “I don’t know what the rules are” problems, which those buttons address, and there are the “I don’t know how members of this community interact with each other” problems, which can only really be solved by hanging out and observing.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
It's clear
it’s to prevent spam. Frankly, I think there are better ways to do it, but this is neither the time nor place to have that conversation :)
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
Some of the long-standing members will try to encourage new members to read posts for a while before commenting and posting their own thoughts.
I personally hate the mandatory waiting periods. If I have something relevant to a conversation or I have a question I would like answered, I don’t want to be forced to wait 4 days. It’s usually not a big deal, but still. Its especially discouraging when I have an uber-important fantasy baseball question that needs answering ASAP and I can’t comment on the Red Birds Blog, because they have a waiting period. Now I have lost that week, and am out of the playoffs.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Here's how I feel
I like mvhsbball. And unlike Dwayne Wade did to Coach Spo, I will say he’s my guy.
I enjoy reading foolish and hastily thrown together posts, it makes me feel better about myself.
I find humor in the good natured ribbing of others on this site, its like watching those Comedy Central Roasts all the time, except they’re usually really good.
I’d go to war with any of the members of this blog regardless of their ability to write a fan post, because in the end, we’re all Braves fans.
I don’t like reading “internet text” and I don’t like seeing people correct, because it can be just as annoying, but to each his own.
I’d rather be commenting on a game thread than having a nice family meeting about how we treat each other.
All in all, this is a great site, and basically the only reason I have a computer. Its where I go first for my Braves info, and its where I stay longest to read and write and enjoy the thoughts of fellow Choppers.
by thenightstallion on Apr 6, 2011 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
<img src=“”http://imgur.com/qkAn6" title=“Hosted by imgur.com”>http://imgur.com/qkAn6.png"/>
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
So close
and yet so far.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
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which one do i copy? There’s so many.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
I'm not familiar with imgur particularly
But you want the one that’s probably a “direct link” or something similar. It’ll look like this:
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
How do you make the exact picture appear on this site without having to click?
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
You copy the link that looks like the one I showed you, and then use the picture icon provided when you post a comment.
You want to be sure they’re not too large, though.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com

Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
He shoots
He scores!
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
first of all, chop,
nice job. secondly, it’s often the courteous thing to do to provide a header, so others can hide the photo, once viewed. often an ellipsis will suffice (…)
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
YAY!
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Good job
Now for bonus points, integrate the following after the quotation mark after the URL and before the closing bracket:
height=“250”
because gigantic images are frowned upon. :(
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Dangit, we just had him trained, then you go and ruin it.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com

Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
< img src=" URL OF IMAGE GOES BETWEEN QUOTES " > Use that, but delete every space in it, EXCEPT the one between "img" and "src". < blockquote>
You’re confoosing me, sir. I’m so mad I could blow a foose.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Also
fyi… just changing the height won’t have any effect on how long it takes the page to load. Makes the threads easier to scan, but it’s not a tactic I’d advise using on game threads…
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
<img src="[URL=http://imgur.com/qkAn6][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qkAn6.png[/IMG][/URL]"/>
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Almost... there...
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
Preview button is your friend.
Just to let you know.
"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB
Well this thread certainly exploded. Damn.
DON'T GO TO SLEEP EARLY OR JEFF FRANCOEUR WILL HAUNT YOUR DREAMS AND LOWER YOUR OBP. - Scott
I think it’s because people saw the words “Kelly Johnson” and flew into a foaming rage.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
But Justin is only one person.
DON'T GO TO SLEEP EARLY OR JEFF FRANCOEUR WILL HAUNT YOUR DREAMS AND LOWER YOUR OBP. - Scott
Justin unfairly gets all the credit for that…there were numerous posters who thought it was a awful idea to let KJ go.
KJ is and was a very good 2B and we could have used him as such (we could have, instead of signing other dudes, put Prado at anotehr position and let him thrive there).
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Haters gon hate!
You know I was the most vocal (as if that’s something unusual) opponent to that!
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. As president of the KJ Defense Force, you get the attention.
DON'T GO TO SLEEP EARLY OR JEFF FRANCOEUR WILL HAUNT YOUR DREAMS AND LOWER YOUR OBP. - Scott
When I become rich and have my own army, that’s what I am going to call it – the KJDF. People are going to be like “where did that come from? What does it mean?” And I am going to smile inside, because I know.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
HERE I AM
I will forever be the conductor of the KJ Train. all aboard, MFers!

Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I LOVE Kelly...
…for some reason I always think of him as “Kell-Kell”.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
as long as you think of him
in a positive light :)
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 8, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, you all have been busy while I was traveling today.
I confess to only reading about half of the above 440+ replies... but I will add this:
I learned very early on that one better put on her big girl panties and be prepared for ANY type of reply to what you say before hitting the “POST” button.
I love this place.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
FTR, you really don’t have to wear any panties…
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Panties aren't even allowed in my mother's basement.
"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"
"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."
Notice I said, “put on”.
That could indicate that it’s not the usual MO.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
Oh how I’ve missed you!
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Pics or GTFO ;oP
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 7, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
i have a long standing tradition of not wearing any panties and shall continue that
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
I can verify the accuracy of this statement.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 6, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
How the hell did I miss this mess? This is what happens when I spend 3 hours typing up a team preview. I’m just gonna throw out there that I am probably responsible for 80% of the bannings on this site and I probably spend the least amount of time here out of all the mods. I’m sorry, I get annoyed easily. Also I think I am better than everyone else.
in your defense, you may well be better than some people….you do minor league recaps and although I don’t know much more about you, I think that makes you awesome.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Not only do I do the minor league recaps I created them! Take that! Also I live in Charleston WV am happily married and smell like sunshine.
WINNING
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 7, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Duh!
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
by biggentleben on Apr 10, 2011 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I fully agree.
I have spoken out some against the “Good Phight Rule,” which I think is ridiculous. We all talk about being “professional,” but many times we are not “professional” ourselves. I’ll admit it, I am a douche. But I still have the right to speak my mind. We should be allowed to troll on other blogs if we so choose. When someone trolls, the person is hurting his/her reputation, not the blog he/she belongs to.
SUPPORT THE FIRST AMMENDMENT!
"Sports is human life in microcosm."
Howard Cosell
Support the correct spelling of
amendment!
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 7, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Congratulations to the additions of Fat Dingflyer and SCrebel10 to our list of authors. The qualifications are very, very rigorous, or you must be a great friend of mvhsbball or gondeee to become one. I looked at their profiles. Fat Dingflyer is a gracious contributor to Talking Chop as well as many other SB Nation Blogs, including AZ Snakepit, Red Reporter, and McCovey Chronicles. As for SCrebel10, well, wait a minute! His profile says he has joined Talking Chop on March 7, 2011. That’s not a very long time. And he has no posts or comments. He must be a good friend of gondeee or mvhsbball to be admitted as an author with no experience on Talking Chop. I was hoping I might get on that list and be taken under cbwilk’s or mvhsbball’s wing! I value those guys’ opinions more than anyone else’s on this entire site!
No grammar or spelling errors, right? That will help me in my quest for authorization…
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
I’m really not trying to be an ass to a new author, but that truly surprises me. I don’t know who SCrebel10 is either, so maybe I shouldn’t be saying what I said above.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
I'd question your constant need for validation
But considering you admitted to your age, it doesn’t need any explanation. Which also saves me the trouble of telling you that you are being an ass, and to grow up.
As for Bennett, what does it matter when he signed up for a TC account? How do you know that he didn’t just sign up under a different name because he didn’t want to use a previous pseudonym for his author status? These are all questions to which you know the answers to not.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
Yoda??
These are all questions to which you know the answers to not.
Too early and not enough caffeine to talk like that, it is.
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 8, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
This kid reminds me a lot of a 15 year old who’s been trying to do stand-up lately in my area. He doesn’t get why he’s not instantly respected, even though he’s done nothing to earn it. I’m gonna give ChopMaster the same advice I gave him: Shut up for a bout five years. You might understand some things better then.
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com
by cbwilk on Apr 8, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Truer words were never spoken.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 8, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
at valuing MVHS opinions. He’s a Kings fan for Heyward’s sake!
"I am here to be real and state the things you are all to scared to say because you don’t want to get your feelings hurt or you don’t want to hurt these bloggers feelings. I mean did you read this garbage preview? I mean seriously, it was a pile of crap." - Mastermike
I just realized something, and forgive me for being a tad slow on the uptake, but
Scott takes a whole bunch of sh*t from us…LMAO
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 8, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m used to it by now…it’s all in good fun.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 8, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Be quiet and go take Andres Nocioni's contract again.
"That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck." - FuquaManuel
Twitter: @scottcoleman55
by Scott Coleman on Apr 8, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
His grit is undeniable. He is the David Eckstein of the NBA.
"I am here to be real and state the things you are all to scared to say because you don’t want to get your feelings hurt or you don’t want to hurt these bloggers feelings. I mean did you read this garbage preview? I mean seriously, it was a pile of crap." - Mastermike

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