Scouring the Cellar Dwellers for Meaningful Rosterbation...
by ryan c on Apr 25, 2011 10:28 AM EDT
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It's quite apparent that the Braves are in need of a RH power bat off the bench. It also seems apparent that there's a big, gaping hole (being filled by the one-dimensional Brandon Hicks) where Omar Infante's flexibility off the bench used to be. Even though our RH 'pen options have looked shaky of late, I still think it's too early to even think about looking for bullpen help when we have this at Gwinnett:
Stephen Marek: 8.1 IP 5h 0bb 13k 0.60whip 0.00era
Juan Abreu: 8.1 IP 6h 4bb 6k 1.20whip 0.00 era
There are other promising numbers for Gwinnett's 'pen including the Assman's (Proctor) 12Ks in 8.0 IP accompanied with a 2.25 era, but his track record over the past few years should trump any early success he's having in AAA. So, back to the need at hand...that RH power bat.
Here are some RH power bats playing on teams that probably will be selling by All-Star break or getting rid of surplus.
Outfielders
1.Carlos Quentin: current contract 5.05 million and arb-eligible for 3rd time in 2012
2. Justin Upton: current contract has approx. 50 million on it through 2015
3. (gulp) Jeff Francoeur: current contract 2.5 million with mutual option for 2012
4. Adam Jones: current contract 3.25 million and arb-eligible for 2nd time next year
5. Chris Young: current contract has 20 million on it through 2012 with a club option of 14 million in 2014 (or 1.5 buyout).
6. Hunter Pence: current contract 6.9 million and arb-eligible for 3rd time in 2012.
7. Vladimir Guerrero: current contract 8 million
8. Jason Kubel: current contract 5.25 million
9. Jason Repko: current contract: 1/600k and arb-eligible for 3rd time in 2012
10. Michael Cuddyer: current contract: 10.5million
11. Delmon Young: current contract: 1/5.375 million and arb-eligible for 3rd time in 2012
Infielder/Utility
1. Marco Scutaro: current contract 5 million with 6 mil/club option or 3 mil/player option for 2012
2. Jed Lowrie: will take a king's ransom with the start he's off to. current contract 450k and arb-eligible for 1st time in 2012.
3. Jose Reyes: current contract 11 million
4. Mark DeRosa: currect contract 6 million
5. Alex Gordon: current contract: 1.4 million and arb-eligible for the 3rd time in 2012.
6. Mark Ellis: current contract 6 million
Internal Options
1. Ed Lucas: .611 ops 0hr (walking but hitting with no power thus far)
2. Joe Mather: .732 ops 5 total xbh
3. Mauro Gomez: 1.117 ops 15k (destroying the baseball but swinging and missing a ton as well)
4. Shawn Bowman: .900 ops 3hr 16k (the power is there but so are the Ks)
5. Stefan Gartrell: .819 ops 3hr (also racks up the Ks and can't play CF which hurts his chances)
6. Wilkin Ramirez: .861ops 3hr (cutting down the K rate seems to be a goal for him seeing he's only K'd 5 times in in 44 PAs)
Before the Braves go the trade route, I'd like to see Ed Lucas and Wilkin Ramirez get a few AB's coming off of the bench. With those 2 on the bench, every position other than catcher has a legit backup. Nate's going to need a day or 2 off and plugging Wilkin in against a tough lefty might be a decent option. The 3 moves I'd like to see made before our next homestand:
Ed Lucas replaces Brandon Hicks on roster
Wilkin Ramirez replaces Jairo Ascencio on roster (remember, the Braves have an extra pitcher up right now)
Stephen Marek replaces Cory Gearrin on roster
This will give us a bench of : Ross, Hinske, Lucas, Conrad, Ramirez
...and a bullpen of : Kimbrel, Venters, O'Flaherty, Sherrill (puke), Linebrink, Marek, Martinez
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i thnk they made it clear they want ramirez to see regular at bats
which is why they have him in AAA
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by SouthernPanther on Apr 25, 2011 11:20 AM EDT reply actions
Micheal Bourne from Houston. $4.4M for ’11, arb eligible for ’12, FA for ’13. Leadoff batting CF.
09 .285 / .354 ob
10 .265 / .341 ob
11 .308 / .379 ob
180+ SB / 37 CS
No clue what/who to offer, a couple of good arms, not named Teheran or DelGado, maybe Vizcaino and Hoover or Redmond plus Schafer and Pastornicky. Save the Astro’s some money
"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G
Bourne/Pence
I am a Braves fan in the Houston area, so I pay attention to the Astros as well. Bourne and Pence are 2 of the maybe 5 good players in the entire Houston system, top to bottom. If either of these guys were traded, every fan in Houston would be up in arms. Right now, they accept their reality as rebuilding, even if it will take 10 years. But if you removed those guys, who are the best players on the team, there would literally be no reason to go watch them.
…Thank god I can cheer for the Braves, because as a Houstonian, that paragraph hurt me to write.
by cgardner2006 on Apr 25, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
A couple of points.
1. As Southern Panther noted, Ramirez (as well as Marek, I imagine) are down because they want them to play, not sit on the bench. I imagine that is true with Lucas as well, especially since he isn’t hitting yet in AAA. Gearrin was up solely in case we had a bad start and needed too many innings out of the bullpen; he wasn’t going to be used in a remotely close game unless it was after the 15th inning.
2. You list several guys who are on teams that are trying to contend or are guys that non-contending teams are building around or are DH’s: Quentin (White Sox should contend), Justin Upton (won’t be moved except for a king’s ransom, D-Backs are building around him), Adam Jones (young, not going to be traded), Vladimir Guerrero (simply can’t play OF anymore, the knees are shot).
3. I don’t quite get your point: you say we need a right-handed bat off the bench, but then list a whole bunch of guys who would obviously be starters. Only Repko, DeRosa (too expensive for the role), and Scutaro (at the moment) are currently in bench roles and only Ellis and Francouer should probably join them as bench players. If you think we need to get a starting player, who do you suggest we are replacing?
Why I listed the OFs...
1. Obvious reason: McLouth- I’m happy to see Nate off to a much better start than last year, but if he digresses, we’d be looking for a RH platoon at the least.
2. Prado: In the stretch run, our regulars who arent getting rest (Uggla, Heyward, Prado) are going to need a few games off. In this scenario, Prado would be moving around the horn while the pickup will get a lot of starts. Just because I listed starters doesn’t mean they have to start every game when traded for…
3. I’m well-aware of the reasoning behind players such as Ed Lucas, Wilkin Ramirez, and Stephen Marek being played regularly at the AAA level to stay fresh in case needed. However, we’re not talking about spring chickens here. Wilkin is 25, Lucas is 29, and Stephen Marek is 27. When the back-end of the bullpen and the bench are showing to be weaknesses on the big club, what’s the purpose of keeping guys like the above mentioned down, who, in my eyes, are obvious upgrades to what’s present currently? You see it as needing regular ABs. I see it differently.
Just Beachy here. How 'bout you?
and my last point...
we’re in need of a RH power bat who’s also a backup OF. We currently don’t have that on our roster but Gwinnett has a few that fit that description. Gwinnett’s offense has been dominant while the MLB version of the Braves has been in the bottom 2-3 almost all year. Why not try them out? Is the only real reason because they need “regular ABs”? If so, that’s unwise. So let’s let Ramirez, Gartrell, Mather, and Lucas all receive regulars ABs and continue bringing in Brandon Hicks as our RH batter off the bench.
Just Beachy here. How 'bout you?
Hicks isn't our RH bat off the bench.
He’s our back up SS who rarely plays. Conrad gets the RH pinch-hitting appearances usually, or at least he should. As for McLouth, we’re stuck with him, and he is doing well enough. If we need to replace him, not many on your list play center (at least not the ones we could realistically get): I only see Jones and Upton as guys who could play center on the list, and we just aren’t going to get them. Finding a CF who can hit is not easy.
As for our hitting numbers so far this year, beware of the very small sample size. With essentially these players (and actually worse b/c we did not have Uggla) we hit plenty well last year. Uggla is doing his usual April swoon, and Heyward had a slump. These things happen early in the season.
As for a Lucas/Hicks swap, it would likely make very little difference. Neither would play much at all, Lucas would probably hit better (but not well), and Hicks would probably be better defensively. I just don’t think that really matters.
What makes you think Ed Lucas wouldnt hit much better than Hicks? It most definitely isnt stats…
And yes, Brooks Conrad is the primary RH batter off the bench, but Hicks has been used in 2 close games and has looked miserably. Probably the main reason he hasn’t been used more is because, well, he sucks at hitting. He’s complete wasted space. He’s a backup SS that doesnt ever play and he can’t hit. What’s the purpose?
Also, why put the AAA team 30 minutes away only to not use the strength of the placement? If Alex gets hurt and has to sit a few games, bring up a glove guy immediately. It’s not like it’s an inconvenience…
Just Beachy here. How 'bout you?
Because if Alex gets hurt in the first inning...
…that is going to be ugly the rest of the game. As for Lucas hitting better but not much better than Hicks, remember, whichever one is up will probably get about 10 plate appearances per month. There just won’t be enough playing time for significant differential.
Your basing your reasoning on an “if” scenario. I’m basing mine on 2 real events that have already happened this year.
Event 1: down 1, Hicks used as a PH to lead off an inning with Prado and Freeman up next….weak grounder to 3rd
Event 2: down 2, 1 out, 1 on, Brandon HIcks strikes out swinging, failing to move the runner over.
Point being: Why have a glove first backup SS on a team such as this? He never gets used. I’d rather have an Infante-type player who can play multiple positions and be adequate with the bat.
Brandon has 7 PAs this year and none successful and has played a total of 8 innings on the field in a month. It makes no sense…
Just Beachy here. How 'bout you?
Now you're getting into player usage
And that has more to do with FG than it does with Wren’s roster construction.
It's even possible that Jim Tressel drinks out of the toilet
No, it has to do with using the players that Fredi’s given, meaning he knows that Hicks can’t hit, therefore he’s used only as a last resort which he’s been used as such twice.
Just Beachy here. How 'bout you?
Doesn’t really help to have a defensive replacement for a player that plays great defense. Seems you would want an offensive replacement for Gonzo.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
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by king of games on Apr 25, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be great to have a guy like Infante on the bench...
…but let’s face it, there aren’t many of those guys hanging around. We don’t have one. Sure, we could replace Hicks with Lucas. I wouldn’t mind it, in fact. I just don’t think it would matter much. Given how much that spot on the roster is used at all, the difference in Lucas’s hitting is going to make a difference of maybe 4 hits all season. That just isn’t that big of a deal.
Well, there’s a chance that it could have made a difference in the outcome of 2 games thus far. that’s enough for me already. I didn’t agree with Lucas being left off of the roster for Hicks then, I don’t agree with it now.
Just Beachy here. How 'bout you?
That assumes that...
…Lucas will be this amazing hitter, which he won’t. At best, he’ll likely make outs well over 60% of the time, meaning if it could have possibly made a difference twice, it really only would have once or not at all.
Hicks got on base at a .280 clip last season. Lucas got on base at a .392 clip.
11% difference per At-bat
1 extra hit/walk out of 10
5-6 extra hit/walks out of 50.
In a game that’s often decided by 1 run, that’s big.
Just Beachy here. How 'bout you?
Unless you don’t think that the difference in Francoeur’s career OBP and Chipper’s career OBP is significant…
Just Beachy here. How 'bout you?
There you go
talking about career stats, as though that makes it reasonable when you just previously posted stats entirely out of context.
Ed Lucas had a year which was somewhat above average in the very friendly offensive environment of the Pacific League as a 28 year old. Ed Lucas isn’t even hitting all that well for Gwinnett, so you can’t say with any certainty he’d big improvement over Hicks.
that wasnt career stats, bronn. and the point about yjr francoeur and chipper comparison wasnt in the least bit supposed to be about the “career” stats, but the difference in getting on base 11% of the time.
Just Beachy here. How 'bout you?
I think you meant regresses.
But I digress.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
While I like Marek a lot, there’s no guarantee that he is better than Asencio. I see them at pretty much the same level. I like Marek a bit more, but I wouldn’t send down Asencio to call up Marek.
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DeRo is definitely the odd man out in SF...
My guess is that Brian Sabean will spend the month of May trying to find someone to take his entire contract. If that doesn’t happen (and it won’t since they aren’t playing him very much), he will probably be available in June (with money thrown in) to clear a spot for Belt.
Can the Braves wait that long?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Not wanting to see anyone injured...
but I’d love to see them in need of a starter, have KK come back from his injury strong, and a bad deal swap straight up of KK for DeRo. The Braves can wait, since they have to for KK to get healthy and show something.
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The Giants would love to have Rodrigo Lopez right now.
The key, as you say, is that you wouldn’t have a “bad contract” swap. If Bumgarner has another bad start (or Vogelsong gets lit up) in Pittsburgh, Sabean might become just desperate enough to throw some money in. How much would he have to throw in so that Wren could afford it?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Yankees.
They have no depth whatsoever now – especially with Hughes going down. I think they might be willing to pay the bat boys to throw an inning each. If only KK were pitching (at all) right now.
Fangraphs, on Craig Kimbrel: "His strikeout rates look like they’re coming from a video game"
They have plenty of Rodrigo types.
The Yankees have Freddy Garcia and Bartolo Colon with Millwood sitting at AAA. You just don’t need to give anything up for these types of pitchers, you can just find them.
JMHO..
braves lack the leadoff bat..not knocking prado he’s an excellent player..but he’s not my type of leadoff..I want another otis nixon type speed guy..that obviously hits a little better than ol’ otis..
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I agree
I’d love to see a move for McCutchen or Bourne for CF/Leadoff in july or after the season. Houston and Pittsburg might be decent trade partners considering our abundance of young pitchers. Maybe neither will be made available, but that’s the type player I’d like to see our pitchers bring back in a trade.
"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G
McCutchen certainly won't be available.
It is doubtful that Bourn will. The key is getting on base, however, not speed. Running in front of your best hitters is not particularly necessary. Stolen bases might be fun, but they just aren’t that important. They are great as a compliment to a guy who gets on base a lot, but the getting on base a lot is the key. As awix notes, Lofton would be perfect. Unfortunately, he has retired, and there aren’t guys like him floating around for us to get.
Again in my opinion the steal is underrated
In the national league.. The old bunt em over kills me..granted it works fine when u have a guy on first who has no speed to move someone into scoring position..but say you steal 2nd..then your bunted over or your two hole guy is a great hitter…sac fly scores you every time.. Speed at the top of lineup in the NL is way underrated to me..
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by SidFreeman on Apr 25, 2011 2:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
I also love how speed guys can get into a pitchers head while on base. Not to mention making a pitcher throw over to 1B all the time is similar to a nice drawn out AB raising his pitch count.
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by king of games on Apr 25, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish we had more guys who could go 1st to 3rd on base hits to right field and score from 1st on extra base hits to right. Prado and Heyward seem the two players most conscious on the basepaths and make the effort to take the extra base when it’s available. Even Uggla runs hard down the line and looks for opportunities to take an extra bag.
"It's going to be strange watching There's Something About Mary again, knowing Brett Favre was the biggest stalker of them all"
The steal is still the most overrated stat in baseball.
It is nice, but with as much hitting as there is in baseball, the risk of giving up a baserunner makes steals a negative proposition unless the baserunner rarely ever gets caught. But it is still mentioned as a big stat and keeps mediocre players getting more playing time than they should (like Juan Pierre) and the stats never mention the caught stealing, which people apparently like to ignore completely.
Well, depending on who Wren tries to move, I hope he doesn’t trade young, good, cost-controlled, team-controlled pitchers for old dilapidated over-priced has beens. If he decides to move Jurrjens or Hanson, we better be getting a young, toolsy, multiple arbitration eligible player in return, or at least a guy with a decent multi-year contract. McCutchen and Bourne are probably pipe dreams, but that’s the type CF I would like us to trade for for 2012.
"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G
Jurrjens was actually one of the candidates
I would be interested in trading mainly because he’s a boras client..I like the guy and I love to watch him pitch but if you’ve ever noticed in trades..it’s never the guy you thought would be traded..jurrjens to me fills that role..plus we have a ridiculous amount of talented young arms that will be ready more than likely in 2012..not to mention having beachy in the 5th role, and medlen on his way back..braves are loaded with pitching..ya gotta deal from where your strong.
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by SidFreeman on Apr 25, 2011 8:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
kenny lofton would be an excellent fit here
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or Otis Nixon
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by DolphinNation on Apr 25, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw That
Rickey’s probably in better shape than all of them, and likely still in a farm system somewhere.
Marquis Grissom plz
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by MBL1 on Apr 25, 2011 7:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
1. Carlos Quentin
seems like a PERFECT fit for us in the fact that we have traded with them before and they NEED pitching and we NEED a RH power OF bat.
Delgado + Beachy + C. Betancourt for Quentin would have to raise some eyes in Chicago. Yet, I think they’re going to be buyers rather than sellers.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Apr 25, 2011 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
really?
seeing the White Sox would be SOOOOOOO willing to give up their best player (so far this year)…they’d just give him to us.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Apr 26, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
WHAt? WAY TOO MUCH!
I would give that all up for Hunter Pence let alone Quentin…
"I'm gonna get drunk and play video games till my eyes bleed"- It's Always Sunny in Philly
Pence is better than Quentin..
…so I am either reading your post wrong or I don’t get your point.
You have to realize
that Quentin is:
A) Somewhat injury prone, and
B) Incredibly streaky. He’s had a great April, but at some point he won’t just cool off, he’ll go straight cold and give you some weeks where he gets a couple of hits and double digit K’s
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by TurnerTheBurner on Apr 25, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Where would we play Quentin?
Do we really want to move Heyward to center? I wouldn’t like to have him having to run all over creating playing center every day. And Quentin certainly can’t play center; he can’t really even play right. He should be a DH.
FRANCOUER!! BRING HIM BACK!!
Lol good one.
Honestly the only name that really interests me and seems realistic is Reyes. The Mets will most likely be tanking, and will want to unload him. And Reyes will give us that leadoff hitter we need. Give ’em Seabass and some pitching prospects.
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by TurnerTheBurner on Apr 25, 2011 5:47 PM EDT reply actions
The way I see it, this team needs a RH bench bat with power who can play CF and a new starting SS if possible but likely just an offensive minded reserve who is adequate defensively.
For an outfielder, CIN’s Chris Heisey would be nearly ideal imo.
At SS, contributing prospects to help Boston acquire a catcher in exchange for Lowrie seems like the best course of action.
"It's going to be strange watching There's Something About Mary again, knowing Brett Favre was the biggest stalker of them all"
i dont think we need a starting SS. Gonzalez is probably top 5 defensively at SS and he is cheap. I would have no problems keeping him around in the 8-hole for a few years until one of our SS prospects are ready.
by drumzalicious on Apr 27, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I think he’s adequate for this year but I want no part of the decline phase of a guy who has made an out in over 70% of his career plate appearances. It’s going to get ugly really quick for a player like Alex who already has poor plate discipline. I sincerely hope the Braves don’t sign him to anything more than a 1 year deal if he is retained.
"It's going to be strange watching There's Something About Mary again, knowing Brett Favre was the biggest stalker of them all"
I keep tellin' ya.
http://arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=217100
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
The first thing I saw was "CRUISE IN BAXTER'S RIDE".
Which made me think about what the Diamondbacks are actually building around Jupton:
A circus.
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by victor frankenstein on May 1, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Just some rosterbation here:
Braves get: Omar Infante
Marlins get: Dan Uggla
Price check on a jackass!
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
This is getting remarkably troll-like.
Give it a rest, kid :)
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This
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
by biggentleben on Apr 27, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh no wait a minute!!!
Trade Dan Uggla plus prospects to Arizona for Justin Upton! When we get Upton, put Justin Upton is left field and move Prado back to second base!
Martin Prado 2B
Jason Heyward RF
Chipper Jones 3B
Brian McCann C
Justin Upton LF
Alex Gonzalez SS
Freddie Freeman 1B
Nate McLouth CF
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
ummmmmm
tongue-in-cheek?
IF the Diamondbacks are in “rebuild” mode and would trade Upton (which I don’t think happens), they’d want 2, count ‘em, 2 ace-type pitchers who are CLOSE to ML ready. That sounds like Teheran and Delgado to me. But we all know that ain’t happening, so, could a package of Minor + Delgado + pieces get it done? Like a Minor + Delgado + Lipka?
Prado can be super-sub again (or have him spend months learning SS)?
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Apr 26, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember, Justin Upton has a pretty long...
…team friendly contract. Given Towers’s comments and the rumors from this winter, Towers would want something like Hanson and Teheran, which he obviously isn’t going to get. Basically, Justin Upton is available only for a bigger haul than what we paid for Teixeira—-it isn’t going to happen.
The subject of your post deserves
Pelican!
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
by biggentleben on Apr 28, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Did I read that incorrectly
or did you say David Ross is not a legit backup?
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by Old Braves' Fan on Aug 18, 2010 3:05 PM PDT
I love you.... heterosexually of course.
I don’t think it’d be that easy… but anyone who’s seen my bevy of comments on this topic know my feelings. I refrained from putting it here pats self on back… but if we got Lowrie back and Salty as our back-up C… I’d be ECSTATIC.
Yes mega downgrade at backup C… but epic upgrade on flexibility and would allow us to let A-Gonz go at the end of the year if not in trade during it…
No I don’t know where he’d play but I don’t care. I WANT HIM ON OUR TEAM. :-)
That is all, thanks.
by Klemson Krash on Apr 26, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, we use A-Gon on bench to replace Conrad, and as late inning defensive sub.
Yeah, it’s a mega-downgrade at backup C, but I have a feeling Salty might revive here, and if he doesn’t, I trust Boscan to handle backup C duties for a short time.
You take the deal if offered, though you try to add in McLouth+ something for Ellsbury if you’re me also.
Schierholtz available according to MLBTR
Not that I really care about him… but just FYSA, MLBTR says Nate Schierholtz is available… Thoughts?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/giants-make-nate-schierholtz-available.html
Better arm than Frenchy, that is all.
He is noted as an excellent RF, but he often runs pass patterns in the OF — overrated.
He doesn’t know what a cut-off man is.
He bats LH, but hits LHP better than RHP.
He has upper deck power on down-and-in pitches.
He can’t hit any other pitch.
He is very fast, but has no idea of how to steal a base.
He has very little CF experience (majors or minors), which might be because the Giants know he can’t play there.
Other than that, he’s a great ML 5th OF. How would he help the Braves?
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Just curious…Was El Cid’s “Mark DeRosa” post deleted by the moderators?
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Seeing that the only discussion it spawned was "unnecessary fanpost"
I’d imagine so.
Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
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We really are problematic people...
it’s not even May, and we’re messing ourselves. Honestly, no trades for a few months, unless it’s moving out Kenshin.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
So, what you're saying is...
no trades for a few months, period. ;)
I’d be pretty amazed if we manage to move Kenshin at this point; it always seemed like if we didn’t get it done in the offseason, we wouldn’t get it done at all. FW may be able to pull of some magic at the deadline, but I can’t imagine us getting rid of him in the meantime.
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yeah no way
I can’t see him being moved at this point at all. While it would be nice, that opportunity passed before the season started.
I live in the OC.
The one in OH.
As much as I love to rosterbate...
and man, I do love it. But realistically, the only Braves trade, barring an injury and huge need to fill a hole, before June is Kenshin Kawakami. So yeah.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
How about something like…
Nate McLouth (we pay his entire salary plus his buyout), Jair Jurrjens, Arodys Vizcaino (barring his injury), Edward Salcedo, Christian Bethancourt, Jairo Asencio and Jordan Schafer to the Dodgers for Matt Kemp and Marcus Thames?
Everyone gets two free stupid comments. After that, I start charging.
by Wren_and_Stimpy on Apr 26, 2011 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
Considering Kemp is a FA following next season, that would be a horrible, horrible deal.
You’re giving up three top-flight prospects, a proven #2/3 with some injury history, a former top prospect w/ injury history, and a reliever throw-in for one good guy that’s had complacency/laziness issues and a back-up. There’s approximately 15 minimum salary years there, plus even more fairly affordable arbitration years, from a boatload of talented players…for less than two years of Kemp.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
It would be pending an agreement similar to Adrian Gonzalez’s that sent him to Boston – one where an extension would be iminent.
Something along the lines of 7/95 plus a couple vesting option years?
You figure Mclouth in the deal is just so LAD can have a viable replacement for the rest of the year. Schafer is done, regardless of what the TC optimists would like to believe. I’ve never trusted Vizcaino’s injury history, and I foresee McCann signing an extension to stay in ATL next year making Benthancourt expendable (in the same way Salty was). Salcedo is the only piece I’d regret losing (admittedly, Vizcaino could make me regret trading him too), and Asencio is just a throw-in. Jurrjens would be the centerpiece of the deal, and I don’t see the Braves keeping him around much longer.
And Thames would provide the RH bench bat the Braves need this season as well.
I dunno, if Kemp would agree to an extension, I would like to think his laziness/comoplacency issues are behind him. Didn’t BJ Upton have the same issues? – yet so many Braves fans are clamoring for a trade with TB. And Bethancourt/Salcedo give LAD hot prospects at two positions they need future help at: C and SS/3B. (Salcedo’s ability to play 3B and eventually plug that hole in ATL is why I would miss him, but it is more likely that Prado is the 3B of the future in ATL and FW looks to find a replacement in LF.)
Everyone gets two free stupid comments. After that, I start charging.
by Wren_and_Stimpy on Apr 26, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont like this
mostly because we would be buying high, which is something i thought we have learned not to do (tex). I actually came on here to throw Thames name out there as a possible right handed bat off the bench, he has career OPS of .800, but that deal is absurd.
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while." - Dave Cameron
What exactly has Kemp done to earn that much money?? 10 WAR in four full seasons (with this season admittedly being a wonderful surprise so far)…Jurrjens has averaged better even with last year’s injury-riddled season. Kemp is 2.5 WAR/yr so far to Jurrjens’s 2.9.
He’s also not playing CF for much longer, as he’s below-average to horrible there, lowering his value even further. His positional adjustment from CF to LF alone will cost him about 1 WAR/season, and I don’t foresee him becoming so much better that his bat makes up for it (although his defense in LF should be better than average, accounting for a teensy bit of that loss).
As for his laziness/complacency, well, he’s no longer dating Rihanna, which helps. However, I contend that he’s another Hollywood floozy away from falling right back into those issues. But maybe not.
So…still dead-set on trading away half the farm for this guy?? Your price is still WAY too high.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I’m glad you’re not the Braves’ GM….
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 27, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
All I know
is Grady Sizemore has been looking great since coming off the DL.
Nate’s been doing great but Sizemore would give us a true lead-off hitter.
Sizemore
Prado
Chip
McCann
Uggla
Heyward
Gonzalez
Freeman
Yea i put Heyward 6th and Freeman 8th. I believe in that lineup that’s where they should be.
If we were to get sizemore:
Sizemore
Chipper
Heyward
Uggla
McCann
Prado
Freeman
Gonzalez
"Is Prince Fielder a legitimate threat to your bag of potato chips?" -Bronn (Braun?)
Sizemore is also playing for a winning team right now and is Cleveland’s “franchise player”, and has a very cheap club option (8.5 million) next year. If he keeps hitting and they keep winning, Grady’s not going anywhere.
Just Beachy here. How 'bout you?
im well aware is not likely to happen while that team keeps winning. thats why its called Rosterbation.
by drumzalicious on Apr 27, 2011 1:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
GREAT IDEA GUYS
Step 1: Move Prado to CF.
Step 2: Move McCann to LF.
Step 3: Start D-Ross every day at C.
Step 4: ???
Step 5: PROFIT.
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Better idea - how bout THIS lineup?
Pujols – 3B
Heyward – RF
Pujols – 2B
Heyward – CF
Pujols – LF
Heyward – SS
Pujols – 1B
Heyward – C
mvhs – P
Wait, nevermind...I put Heyward batting 6th
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by DolphinNation on Apr 27, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you really want to start that schmuck on the mound, anyway?
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Given his track record on the recaps
he getz winz!
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by DolphinNation on Apr 27, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Dingflyers is SOOOO much better at recaps...
he bringz sweepz!
by Klemson Krash on Apr 27, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
After Wednesday’s 7-0 win over the Padres, the starters’ ERA stands at 3.16. The bullpen’s ERA stands at 2.88. The total ERA is now 3.07. According to FanGraphs, the Braves stand at 5th in the Major Leagues in ERA, 2nd in FIP, and 2nd in WAR (pitchers), and 9th in K/9. In the National League, they are 3rd in ERA, 2nd in FIP, 2nd in WAR (pitchers), and 7th in K/9.
To note: In the National League, the Braves are last in BABIP (.255), tied for 2nd in HR (27), 9th in ISO, 14th in wOBA (.295), 7th in BB%(8.7%), tied for 5th in BB/K (0.47).
The Cardinals have a team batting average of .293, the Braves .228. This is gonna be one tough series, even if Pujols is out with an injury.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Frency went yard again...
just sayin’ (gulp)
by JohnRocker4CyYoung on Apr 27, 2011 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
Comment From Dan
With Mike Minor pitching lights out in AAA, do you see the Braves dealing a starting pitcher?
2:04
My guess is that two months from now, when trading begins in earnest, the problem will sort itself out and they’ll need Minor to fill in for someone injured. If not, I think it makes sense to see what can be gotten for Jurrjens.
mlbtr
Hmm who could we get? I’d love to get Reyes but don’t want to face JJ for yrs. How about Chisenhall if the Indians are still in it?
Jurrjens
is only going somewhere if we are getting a longterm player in the OF. However if McLouth’s stats keep trending upward in 2 months I doubt the Front Office will be fielding calls for any kind of trade unless we have a serious injury.
by drumzalicious on Apr 27, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure
if we were able to get a longterm player for SS that that would be more than acceptable as well.
by atlbravosfan on Apr 28, 2011 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions
New thoughts on our bullpen situation...
I don’t want to put a fanshot or any of that non-sense up so I will post my thoughts here and let them die a quiet death…
Fact: There should be a market for Sherril regardless of his current performance.
Thoughts: We should trade him to someone willing to give us Cash straight up or a low A prospect and Cash. We could then FREE MAREK and send Jairo down for a bat.
Forcast: This would free up some money for a potential Lee/Teixiera (SP)/McGriff type deal at mid season. I don’t want to give up the farm but we have SO much talent other teams could use now or soon that we can afford to pick up someone who will be more than a rental.
My honest proposal on who we should target? Meah… I don’t wanna rosterbate that hard and I think by now y’all know who I want (Lowrie). I still believe Jordan Shafer will rebound and pull out a Howie Kendrick type rebound. Remember Kendrick was a BA champ in the minors before his wrist injury. Look at his performance in this SSS of a season and you will see what one can do post wrist injury. (yes Shafer has a little medicinal help but he has tons of talent).
Perfect world: Chip plays phenominal this year, retires, immediately becomes our Bench Coach or Hitting Coach. Prado moves to third, Lowrie (if we snag him… doubtful) or a resigned A-Gonz (no more than a 2 year deal w/ a 3rd year team option), Uggla and Freeman around the horn… We could sign a FA LF this off season or move McLouth to LF, Shafer (I have probably butchered his name 20 times already) in CF and the Heyward guy in RF.
Starting pitching is set for the next 10 years and our BP could be filled w/ graduated rookies Venters and Kimbrel w/ EOF, Moylan, Marek and Martinez.
Our bench is the only thing full of question marks (aside from Rossy … unless we trade him for Lowrie…). Not a bad situation for a club to have.
I will say this about trading pitchers. If we’re trading any of our pitchers, it’s gonna be Beachy, not Minor. We used a first-round pick to get him, and he’s a southpaw. Beachy was an unsigned-free agent.
And, about the right-handed bench bat, I’m lookin at two guys: Mark DeRosa or Joe Mather.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
You may be right, but...
Being left-handed isn’t really an asset; the fact that he was a first-round pick is important historically, but does nothing to add to his current value.
If we trade Beachy over Minor, it’ll be because we think Minor will be more successful overall with the organization, and not for any of the reasons you mentioned.
Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
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And look at what I just said. Minutes after I said Joe Mather was an option, he’s actually CALLED UP! It isn’t for the bench as the post on the front page says, but he was called up!
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
You want a cookie?
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Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
by biggentleben on May 1, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
you do realize im a contributing member dont ya?
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Peanut
Nnneeeyyyooooooommmm
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
Get Jose Reyes!!
That is all
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by TurnerTheBurner on Apr 29, 2011 12:10 AM EDT reply actions
For the love of all that is good and holy
NO.
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Care to elaborate?
I know he’s always injured, but we could get him for half the year. $8M isn’t that bad
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by TurnerTheBurner on Apr 29, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He seems to be injury prone, he has a high salary, he’ll be a free agent after the season if I’m not mistaken, it’ll cost too much in prospects to rent him for a couple months and it would be too expensive to re-sign him. If he’s injury prone in his mid-20’s, his physical prime, how injury riddled will he be on the other side of 30? He’d be a good leadoff hitter and provide good speed on the basepaths but would be a downgrade defensively from Sea Bass. I think the negatives outweigh the positives when it comes to acquiring Reyes.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, uh, your opinion, man. -The Dude
And then there's the whole attitude thing
but, you know, whatever.
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Ya, but Derek Lee was involved had a couple "attitude" incidents in Chicago last year
And then he got traded here and there were no problems whatsoever. MLB guys love our clubhouse
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by TurnerTheBurner on Apr 30, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
dont we already have
a Shortstop?
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while." - Dave Cameron
I would say "can't we get a better one"
but Jose is not high on my list of wants/needs… Not to mention, A-Gonz is exceeding expectations on D and taking care of business on O to make me LOVE him. What a great “Braves” guy to have on the team.
by Klemson Krash on May 5, 2011 4:45 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly
hes perfect for the job. we need a power hitting outfielder, i wouldn’t be surprised if we acquire a corner OF and Heyward moves to center
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while." - Dave Cameron
I don't see Heyward moving to center...
Not that he can’t play there but couldn’t Prado possibly play there? I honestly would prefer to have a speedy CF type on the team than a power hitting corner fielder… I think Prado and Heyward are fine. If we can upgrade the team speed w/ a good CF, then we can solve two minor issues.
I know people will say our team speed isn’t that important and I overvalue the leadoff hitter having both good OBP and speed but I just think w/ a sparkplug like that at the front of our lineup, we will be even scarier good than we currently are.
by Klemson Krash on May 9, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
OT: Funny story about some Padre shenanigans.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
What I want to know, is this:
Will Jose Reyes be Yunel Escobar with better speed? Defense the same, attitude the same horribleness, ability the same? I don’t think Fredi wants to deal with an attitude problem like Bobby did with Yunel.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Make a package deal with Arizona
For Stephen Drew and Chris Young.
Bada bing, bada boom.
I’ve got Jack Johnson and Tom O’Leary waiting for ya, right here
It would take a lot, but they’d both be upgrades over what we have now. Not really sure the DBacks are ready to completely blow up their team, though. Ticket sales are down and getting rid of Webb, Reynolds, Drew, and Young in a 6 month span doesn’t exactly fill up the seats. Towers wants to build for the future, but you have to be at least respectable in the meantime.
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by Scott Coleman on May 1, 2011 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions
but you have to be at least respectable in the meantime.
At the risk of the hammer I repeat: a circus.
You’d have to attend a recent game there to understand my sentiment – they’re doing all they can to entertain in any non baseball fashion possible.
I have. And as a result after thirteen years I have finally sworn off baseball at the Chase Library.
Between the desperate entertainment ploys (A fan gets to publicly “SPOT THE GEICO GECKO” with requested fan assistance!) the eerily punctual start/stop of the prompted fan noise and the oppressive reception given to visiting fans, it just plain sucks there.
Nomadic baseball fan, with no agenda other than observation/conversation/mass confusion/mass consumption.
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Barry Bonds: "I did."
Prosecutor: "GAH!"
by victor frankenstein on May 1, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
You’d have to attend a recent game there to understand my sentiment – they’re doing all they can to entertain in any non baseball fashion possible.
I was there yesterday and two weekends ago. Trust me, I know all about their bad fans. I nearly cussed a guy out last year when he stood up in the middle of Heyward’s at-bat and blocked my view.
Still, there are quite a few fans in the area who honestly care about their team. I just don’t see Towers making another big deal until the off-season (if at all).
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by Scott Coleman on May 1, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Speculation out there that the tean could move Lowe
Citing the fact that the team has an abundance of SP in AAA that could come up and easily slide into the rotation.
Wouldn’t be a salary dump. Would be a trade to help the offense.
Only team I can think of is the Yankees. Maybe they work out a deal around Lowe and McLouth for Granderson.
by drumzalicious on May 1, 2011 12:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I would cry....
In all reality, we need to ask for Gardner over Granderson if we’re doing something like that… That’s just my opinion. I’ll take either though.
by Klemson Krash on May 3, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re right either one would work for us. Gardner would give us more of a lead-off/run scoring type offensive threat. Granderson would give us another bat to drive in runs. However I believe Granderson would be the more likely acquisition with his and Lowe’s salaries being kind of close over the next few years.
I guess with Gardner we would be like this:
Gardner CF
Prado LF
Chip 3B
McCann C
Uggla 2B
Heyward RF
Gonzo SS
Freeman 1B
Then with Granderson like such:
Prado LF
Heyward RF
Chip 3B
McCann C
Uggla 2B
Granderson CF
Gonzo SS
Freeman 1B
Either one would work for me. However with McLouth hitting better as of late we might not see a trade at all.
by drumzalicious on May 3, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Or.... With McLouth hitting better,
he has more trade value, hence we could package him w/ Lowe and the Spankees would send us Gardner (or Granderson) and one of their prospects… They do have the Killer Bs over there right?
by Klemson Krash on May 4, 2011 5:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Not really a reply fail here but...
With the way our AAA and AA staff are performing, is it entirely ridiculous to consider trading two pieces from our MLB starting staff?
Lowe as a definite but JJ should also be in discussion… shoot, we could bring up Lopez and Minor and STILL have Teheran hanging out as injury insurance.
I could only imagine the return on a package centered around our pitching. We should have our pick of any player on the block. We could also look at bolstering our position player depth in the minors…
As a team looking to compete, it’s a great position to be in where you can be a seller but not desperate. I think this will be a great summer to be a Braves fan.
I think dealing both now would be too risky...
an injury or two, and we’d the seeming excess of arms gets thin real fast. Beachy has never had a huge workload, so we can’t be sure he’ll last a full season. Kawakami would be an option if he hadn’t done poorly in AA and gotten injured. But he’s not, and do you really want Rodrigo Lopez in the rotation after his MLB numbers last year?
With Minor looking ready to come back up, and both Lopez and Teheran looking like decent insurance for injury (as well as others), I can see us being comfortable dealing Lowe (salary relief) or Jurrjens (young enough to bring back a decent haul of players), but not both. Ideally, a Gardner for Lowe move would fit both imo. They could really use a reliable and solid innings eater. They can afford two years (and next year’s free agents don’t show many options better than him). Gardner gets lots of pub, but he’s not that young (27 in August) for a guy with only one full season and two partials under his belt. He’s been a bit BABIP unlucky so far, but his past production in the minors make last year seem like a career year for him, so it might be a good time to sell high. They’d probably need another OF for depth, so maybe Lowe and Matt Young for Gardner?
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
A lot of this
we’d have to be getting some crazy awesome deal(s) to get rid of both Lowe and JJ, imo. I don’t think we avoid it at all costs, but it’d have to be something of a steal to be worth the risks unless we’re just totally out of contention by the deadline (which I don’t see happening).
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I have looked at Gardner and his stats before...
Do you think he would be like Melky was when he came over? Looked good in pinstripes and then sucked it up as a Brave? Look at the Melk Man now over w/ the Kansas City Braves.. He’s actually playing baseball again.
I think it’s hard to compare the two but Melky succeeded in New York because he got to see alot of pitches (my opinion) as one of the least dangerous hitters on the team… For the Braves, they had McLouth and Gonzo to hit behind him so…. He was exactly the worst hitter on the team.
Don’t get my wrong, I love Gardner (would rather have Ellsbury or Lowrie… but I digress). Would Lowe be enough to get him though? I’d be willing to bet we’d have to sweeten the deal…
by Klemson Krash on May 3, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he keeps himself in better shape than Melky
as for what would “be enough”, I got no idea. But rosterbating is fine, and that’s one that works for me. Personally, I’d think it might be not enough considering price tags, but I doubt the Yankees are too concerned about that sort of thing and would be willing to take the difference if it meant a strong #3 to solidify their rotation a little and if Gardner proved to not be much of a loss with how he’s playing.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Bobby Cox kept himself in better shape than Melky.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
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by king of games on May 3, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lets bring Wilson Betemit back to Atlanta
In 276 ABs last year, he hit .297/.378/.511
In 75 ABs this year, he his hitting .333/.391/.480
The Royals will likely be inclined to sell him while his value is high in lieu of Mike Moustakas coming up to take his 3B position sometime this summer. The Royals Dayton Moore is already practically dating Wren, so lets hope Wren can work some of that Braves charm and bring Betemit back to Atlanta.
Betemit is exactly what this team needs. A switch-hitting bench player who can hit for power and can play 3B, 1B, OF and even 2B if needed
I’ve got Jack Johnson and Tom O’Leary waiting for ya, right here
I've entertained this thought as well
Betemit would be a great addition to the bench with his bat and versatility. Betemit would strengthen the bench and have a similar role that Infante had.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, uh, your opinion, man. -The Dude
I miss Betemit... I wish we'd have been able to keep him around.
I just never hear anything bad about him and he seems like such a selfless guy. A true Braves kinda guy… I’m happy he’s finding success finally w/ the Royals. He just can’t be Infanted (like we’re seeing in Florida). He is kinda like Brooks Conrad (with much better defense) but you really only want to see him in smaller samples.
by Klemson Krash on May 4, 2011 5:56 AM EDT up reply actions
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