Hudson Pitches Braves Past Giants 5-2
by TonyAlmeyda on Apr 23, 2011 7:56 PM EDT
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Tim Hudson battled back from two poor outings and came within one out of his first complete game since 2008 in the Braves' victory over a wild Tim Lincecum and the Giants, 5-2.
The Giants scored against Hudson early, but he managed to keep the damage to a minimum. In the second inning, Pat Burrell doubled with one out and scored on a Cody Ross single. Burrell's double was the first of his three hits in the game.
While Hudson kept the Giants at bay, the Braves' bats went to work against Tim Lincecum, who was unusually wild. With one out in the third, Nate McLouth singled and Hudson walked for Martin Prado; he promptly delivered a single to left to tie the game. Prado struck again in the fifth, delivering an RBI single with two outs to score McLouth who had walked with one out.
Lincecum finally caved in the seventh. He surrendered a leadoff double to Alex Gonzalez and issued a second walk to McLouth. Following a sacrifice bunt, Prado again delivered with help from the Giants' defense. He smacked a ground ball to Freddy Sanchez and with the infield in, Sanchez threw home, but the throw was off allowing Gonzalez to score Atlanta's third run. Once Lincecum walked Jason Heyward, it was the end of the game for him, but the Braves continued their onslaught. With two outs and Javier Lopez pitching, Brian McCann lined a single to center to score Prado and Heyward.
The Giants attempted a comeback in the ninth. After Pat Burrell's second double of the game and a Cody Ross single to start the inning, Miguel Tejada drove in Burrell with a deep sacrifice fly. Craig Kimbrel entered his third straight game with two outs and retired Buster Posey for the final out to earn his sixth save.
Lincecum entered the game having only walked seven batters total in his four previous starts, but walked six in his 6.1 innings. The six walks are a new high for Lincecum in a single game.
The Braves go for the sweep tomorrow: Beachy vs. Sanchez
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Great win
Hudson was brilliant and the offense is starting to come alive. Fantastic series win, and now let’s win tomorrow for the sweep.
Second time all year
winning back to back road games
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while." - Dave Cameron
Other notes…
Lincecum walked a career high 6 batters today compared to 6 strikeouts.
Lincecum allowed only 2 batters to get a hit in an 0-2 count all season long. It happened 2 times today.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Also…
Brian McCann is now 9-11 with RISP.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Isn't it 9-12 now?
I thought he was 9-11 before that last K in the 9th.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
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yeah its 9-12
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Apr 23, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Positives
-We are walking more, I like the patience
-If McLouth keeps getting on base, I don’t mind him that much (McLouth on base = runz)
-Heyward and Freeman for the next 10 years
-Heyward and Freeman for the next 10 years
I normally prefer to go rightly lefty in the lineup but the Have A Look At THIS factor of having two smart, skilled, patent mashers who can barely drink coming at you back to back is hard to deny.
"All told, Philadelphia stadiums house the most monstrous collection of humanity outside of the federal penal system." - GQ
That was a nice surprise
Seeing those two hitting back-to-back in lineup
Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.
On the positive side...
…Freeman is hitting lefties better than righties so far this year. Some lefties (and righties) it doesn’t really matter because they are fine against the same handed pitchers. Others, including Heyward, have some issues. Of course, it could all just be small sample size with Freeman, but he did hit Kershaw, and Kershaw is about as tough on lefties as anyone in baseball—-he made Heyward look silly last year.
+1
Agreed can you just imagine it in a few years when we buyout both of their arb years like we did with McCann and have them hitting for more power. Man seriously it is gonna be great.
Go Braves~Huddy is back and we are finally winning at AT&T Park at last.
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Apr 24, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Martin Prado got 3 RBIs to power the Braves.
Tim Hudson almost went the full nine innings, giving up 2 runs, 1 earned, to lower his ERA to 3.57.
Jason Heyward has officially awoke from his slumberous slump getting 2 hits and 1 RBI today.
Freddie Freeman went 0-4 in the third spot today.
Freshly-promoted pitcher Cory Gearrin is expected to pitch in Sunday’s finale against the Giants. 3:30.
Starters’ ERA is now down to 3.36.
Craig Kimbrel got back-to-back saves, getting the pinch-hitter Buster Posey to pop out.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
And the Braves are working with a 4-man bench right now and 13 pitchers. When Peter Moylan is activated off the Disabled List, righties Jairo Ascencio and Cory Gearrin will be optioned to AAA Gwinnett and Matt Young will be recalled back to Atlanta.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
i really wish we'd keep ascencio around
and lost sherrill….we have no need for 3 lefties, especially one who is totally ineffective
"My everything, or nothing. My everything, or nothing. WE gonna fight, til we can't fight no more. We gonna lie down, and bleed a while. Gonna get up, and fight again." -Tashard Choice
by SouthernPanther on Apr 23, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Apr 23, 2011 8:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kimbrel got the save?
Can someone explain to me how that was a save situation?
I know that if you are 3 or less runs ahead and the closer enters and pitches a full 9th inning, then he gets the save. But he only pitched 1/3 of an inning. Can you pitch anytime in the 9th as long as you’re 3 or less runs ahead and get a save? If so, what constitutes a two inning save situation. I know you can be more than 3 runs ahead if you pitch 2 plus innings of relief to close a game.
so long as the tying run is either
on-deck or in the hole, all that matters is you were the pitcher of record when the last out is recorded… kinda like how the last pitcher in the game before his team takes the lead, even if it is only for one out, still gets the W.
by atlbravosfan on Apr 23, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
btw
I said “either” because I forget what the rule actually is, but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen 5 run saves before…
by atlbravosfan on Apr 23, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That occurs
When a pitcher pitches the final three innings with a lead.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
It's just on-deck.
You can get a one-pitch save with a 4-run lead, but the only way to get a save with a 5 (or more) run lead is to pitch at least the last three innings, as Jurrjens’ Surgeons mentioned.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
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That doesn't seem true
if the rule is tying run on deck. Bases-loaded, runner on deck represents the 5th run. Five run save, right?
by atlbravosfan on Apr 23, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right, I suck at math.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
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The tying run was on deck
That’s the main guideline.
Saves are stupid, though. I’d advise ignoring them completely.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
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by Jacob Peterson on Apr 23, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 23, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Saves are stupid.
We should be paying people based on Holds.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
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Pelican?
"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."
by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Apr 23, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
This is not true.
However, if you pitch 3 or more innings, the number of runs is irrelevant. That’s how you get the occasional 6, 7, 8 run save.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
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by Jacob Peterson on Apr 23, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Wes Littleton
Texas Rangers 30, Baltimore Orioles 3, 8-22-2007
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BAL/BAL200708221.shtml
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by Jacob Peterson on Apr 23, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Could you imagine an Open Thread of the TC variety for that game – if we were on the losing end???
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 23, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be comical, one way or another.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
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by Jacob Peterson on Apr 23, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Fun Fact:
The Braves are now 2-0 against Cy Young winners (beating Lee and Lincecum) and 8-12 against everyone else.
This was just a great game. McLouth continues to look good at the plate, which makes his terrible throwing arm less of an issue. I really like him hitting 8th and getting on base like he has. We took a lot of walks, which I love (of course). And Huddy was very good, too; I wouldn’t say great, but very good. Most importantly, he didn’t walk anyone.
Here’s another fun fact: Tim Hudson now has the best walk rate of any Braves pitcher and the best walk rate of any Braves hitter.
"Yeah, and I have an enchanted jock strap." -- Karl Karlson
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amended:
the second-best walk rate of any Braves hitter, behind Jason Heyward.
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by Jacob Peterson on Apr 23, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Tim Hudson now has the best walk rate of any Braves pitcher and the best walk rate of any Braves hitter.
That last point is a bit telling about the rest of the offense.
I'm a former CTU agent, so don't f--k with me!
Oh, whoops
I forgot to include Huddy’s last at-bat, the strikeout. He actually has 2 BB in 14 PA, for 14.3%. Jason Heyward has 13 BB in 84 PA, good for 15.5% (wow).
Freddie Freeman also has a very good walk rate.
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by Jacob Peterson on Apr 23, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It's been said before, but...
I love Freddie’s D. Saved a high throw from Uggla and tagged the runner out to complete the double-play.
Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.
Of all the nice plays
He’s had around the bag so far this season, I think that was my favorite.
"All told, Philadelphia stadiums house the most monstrous collection of humanity outside of the federal penal system." - GQ
amazing how a good defensive 1st baseman can change things as far as infield defense goes
we were near the bottom last year in errors, and you can already see the difference in Freeman bailing out the other 3 on some bad throws.
He’s already the best defensive 1B in the game, IMO.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 23, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
I’ve said this before: I knew he was good, but…goodness. His defense is amazing.
I am bi-winning. I win not only here but also there.
There are only a few guys who I can even compare him with right now – Teixiera, Pujols, Kotchman…anyone else?
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 24, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anybody know
The last time a Braves pitcher pitched a complete game?
I honestly can’t remember the last time. And didn’t have much luck looking around online.
oddly enough, neither were 9 inning complete games, and the Braves lost both games
Hudson threw 8 in Minnesota on June 11, but we lost 2-1. Hanson went 5 April 25 against the LOLMets, and we lost 1-0 in a game that was called after 5 due to rain
The hudson one was called short too?
If that’s the case, when was the last time a Braves pitcher went 9 complete innings?
Gotcha
Well I figured out how to use baseball reference to look this up.
Looks like we’ve had about one or two for the last 10 years on average and your dates match up for 2010.
Here is a partial list (you apparently need to be a subscriber to see the whole list): http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/game_finder.cgi?type=p#gotresults&as=result_pitcher&offset=0&match=basic&suffix=&min_year_game=1919&max_year_game=2011&series=any&series_game=any&WL=any&team_id=ATL&team_lg=&opp_id=&opp_lg=&throws=any&HV=any&game_site=&Role=CG&DEC=any&orderby=date_game&c1criteria=&c1gtlt=eq&c1val=0&c2criteria=&c2gtlt=eq&c2val=0&c3criteria=&c3gtlt=eq&c3val=0&c4criteria=&c4gtlt=eq&c4val=0&c5criteria=&c5gtlt=eq&c5val=1.0&c6criteria=&firstgames=&firstteamgames=&ajax=1&submitter=1
I believe it was
Javier Vazquez in 2009. September if I remember correctly
by GreatestEver on Apr 23, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just getting around to looking him up
you are correct. He actually did it twice that September- went 9 against the cards in a 9-2 braves win on sept 13, and went 9 two starts later in a 4-1 win over washington on sept 25
Anyone have any idea what the SF fans were chanting during the Uggla at-bats? Not that it matters, but was just curious.
Probably something like: You’re not doing well, sir
I heard it was “one-eight-three,” which I believe was his batting average at that time.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
but are they all still smoking pot?
Loved the crazy attention that received during the playoffs last year.
Great game.
I am glad to see the entire Braves team did not jump off the ledge after the 12th inning loss to the Dodgers.
Baseball’s a funny sport. One minute the Braves are 1-3 on a road trip heading to the reigning WS champions, and the next minute they are 3-3 on the same trip after beating the reigning WS champions’ best pitcher. Now, the Braves have a solid shot at having a winning road trip, in my opinion.
As for today’s game, it was nice to see the Braves cash in on some key hits. Prado’s and McCann’s hits with two outs were huge. The BABIP fairy was kind today. When facing a guy like Lincecum, a team needs to cash in on the few opportunities allowed…and we did.
I like McLouth at the 8th spot, for he acts as a psuedo lead-off hitter for Prado/Heyward. Nate scored 3 of the 5 runs. Not too shabby.
I am bi-winning. I win not only here but also there.
I was quite surprised to see Freeman in the #3 hole today. I would think that it would work better with Him and Heyward flipped in that situation. Sometimes it just seems as though the team doesn’t want to put Heyward in the #3 spot until after Chipper is gone, but anywho good showing from the offense.
I think McLouth has proven he shouldn’t be in the #8 spot . . . . . .
just sayin
If you judge it as an assessment of his worth, then he’s probably not right for the #8 slot, but I think he’s a lot more comfortable there and (as JMan notes above) often acts sort of like a wild card leadoff hitter.
"All told, Philadelphia stadiums house the most monstrous collection of humanity outside of the federal penal system." - GQ
I wonder if Fredi would ever consider pulling a page out of Larussa’s playbook and batting the pitcher 8th, Mclouth 9th
by FlyDeltaJets on Apr 24, 2011 9:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That would be an amazing decision for him to make, imo.
Let Nate be our effective leadoff hitter without the pressure he apparently feels of hitting at the top of the lineup.
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I really want Nate to succeed so all of the haters will shut up.
Not a reply fail, just a general feeling.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
McLouth = run scoring machine
this dude scores when he gets on base.
that pesky "gets on base" part
is the kicker…
by Klemson Krash on Apr 24, 2011 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Its not like he has a better OBP than Gonzo, Uggla, Prado. Not like he and Chipper have the same OBP, and there’s no way he’s only .004 back of Black Jesus.
Our crappy lucky team *WAS* better than your good unlucky team.
Well I think we can all agree
That him moving to the 8th spot has helped him immensely for whatever reason.
He started hitting before getting dropped – just sayin’
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 24, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Since being moved to the bottom of the order he has been 7/21 with a .462 OBP
He was nowhere that good before being moved. In fact, the double header were the last two games where he 2nd, and he had a hit and was hit by a ball in the first game and had a big fat 0 in the second game.
I don’t really see any numbers that show he was doing as good as he is now before being moved.
He had a few good games towards the end of his days hitting 2nd
…but I personally think it’s kind of moot, because McLouth has said that the first game he was hitting 8th was “the first time he’d felt comfortable all season.”
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I didn’t say he was hitting better 2nd than he is 8th. I simply said that his hitting started before getting dropped.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 24, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Truth be told, McLouth started hitting in ST. Slowly but surely he’s getting back towards his career averages. Thank goodness…he seems like a good guy, a repeat of 2010 and he might have found himself unsignable.
"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G
Well, he started hitting even before that. Look at Sept of last season, when he put up this line: .275/.345/.549/.894
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 24, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Obligatory checklist ;-)
I watched the remainder of the game (I had to leave in the 7th) on DVR at midnight last night.
It was worth staying up even later for, even with my 5:30 alarm this morning.
Excellent all the way around! Great WIN!!!
…And can I add how glad I am our “Tim” put a sock in the notion by the douche Fox announcers yesterday who were talking about Huddy and said “But he’s not the best Tim who will take the mound today”…. that ticked me off and I’m so happy Huddy proved them wrong.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
I was really hoping Huddy would stay in for Posey
…not so that he could get a complete game, but so that he could make BP look like an idiot at the plate and shut the announcers up. So. Much. Fawning.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
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That's silly
I get that you don’t like Posey, but the kid is damn good.
Think about what if the roles had been reversed and it was Lincecum on the mound with Heyward up to bat. Would you really be surprised to see Bochy go out there and pull Lincecum and bring in Brian Wilson?
I think he was implying that he wanted to silence the mildly unbiased commentators who had been raving about Lincecum and Posey all game long while failing to recognize how great Hudson was pitching in comparison.
by Clemson Caniac on Apr 24, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't always paying attention
To what they were saying (I’m assuming you’re referring to the Fox broadcast), but Eric Karros was giving Huddy some love – at least towards the end of the game.
They were giving Huddy love...
in that sort of “oh, wow, he’s actually pitching well!” kind of way.
The Posey stuff was just ridiculous. You’d have thought Pujols was coming in off the bench to pinch-hit.
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KIMBREL >>> posey
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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 24, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
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