Losing Sucks, But Being A Jerk Sucks Even More
by gondeee on Apr 18, 2011 11:02 AM EDT
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PrintHey everyone, it's come to my attention that some folks have been commenting and posting pictures that are inappropriate. There are rules and guidelines for Talking Chop, and I would encourage everyone to review them and abide by them -- they can be found by clicking here, and are always available via a link on the front page.
Invariably it happens that whenever the Braves go through a slump (as they seem to be in now) the natives get restless. It's easy to lash out, but let's try not to be a jerk about it. Posting winy FanPosts about how you're taking your cutesy posting talents to another blog because a moderator warned you, makes you look like an idiot.
I've instructed the moderators on this site to use a zero tolerance policy if they wish, and ban folks without warning. These can be 48 hour bans in which you must email me to be reinstated, or they can be for much longer.
Basically, I'd like everyone to act their age. And if you happen to be under 21, then act like an adult. Practice does not make perfect, practice makes permanent, and if you're someone who continues to act like a child then that's how you'll be treated.
For those of you who follow the rules, thank you. If you ever have any problems with another poster please don't hesitate to email me and let me know.
Oh, and the Braves record at this time last year was 8-and-8, a one game difference from our current 7-and-9 record. Come in off the ledge, and simmer down.
This FanPost does not express the views or opinions of Talking Chop.
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Thanks for the post, gondeee
I just wanted to say that I was a little alarmed at TradeAndruw’s fanpost, as some of his claims seemed to be a little too strict, even for a no-tolerance policy. But as I said there, this is ultimately your blog and no one else’s, so whatever policy you want is the policy that should be followed.
Thanks for responding though, because I know I’m not the only one who was starting to wonder if someone had gotten a little too banhammer/warn happy or if it was all sanctioned.
The only thing I would suggest (bc, you know, you asked for suggestions) is that maybe we add a section to the rules about pictures, not just against posting pics of random naked girls, but also of sizing and including a subject line so they are collapsible.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
Now you’ve got me wanting to read TradeAndruw’s fanpost.
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
Me, too.
I also wonder what people have been posting picture-wise to get bans. I guess I am just too late to the party to find out.
I missed it too, I guess. Weird.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 18, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It was only up for 18 hours or so.
Got deleted. Dont know if TA did it or if TC did it. He said he got warned for an OT comment in a game thread, as well as the half naked guy with guns near the end of the TC meme thread.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
You mean, we won’t go 7-155?
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 18, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
I think Gondee is saying we will miss the playoffs by one game. we are one game behind pace from last year and made the playoffs by one game, therego we will no longer be making the playoffs this year, which is disappointing, but at least we can start to look forward to 2012 (and the end of the world)
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Therego?
We’re making this a word. Nao. Everyone must use it at least once by the end of the week.
"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net
I like the word
Therego I will use it happily
"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G
Therego he has started a trend.
"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net
And since it is a trend, therego it must be repeated by one and all
"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G
Makes me think of the Will Ferrell Matrix spoof from several years ago at the MTV movie awards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra5-H9ZBS1U
“Ergo, concordantly, vis a vis….you know what, I have no idea what the hell I’m saying I just thought it would make me sound cool.
Nathan Richard - Please come home. We all miss you.
it’s like herego, except its over there, not here
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
by the way that should be taken as a joke, not serious. (Although the therego was a legitimate brain fail)
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
I approve.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 18, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Regarding your April comments
I had to constantly remind panic-laden fans in the early season to calm. The Braves during “the streak” were not always a good April team:
1991: 8-10
1992: 11-11
1993: 12-13
1995: 4-1
1996: 16-11
1997: 19-6
1998: 18-9
1999: 15-7
2000: 18-6
2001: 12-14
2002: 12-15
2003: 17-10
2004: 11-10
2005: 14-10
and last season 2010: 9-14
In other words, in the next 7 games, the team would have to go 2-5 in order to match last season’s record at the same point.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
9 out of 14
We had winning records… I’m not sure I get your point.
by TCfromDubVee on Apr 19, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s saying that we have had bad Aprils before and ended up being just fine.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 19, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Come to think of it...
it seems like more often than not over this last 20+ year run, the team has struggled in April before ultimately getting things on track and making a run to the post season.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
I don't call some of those bad.
Though I understand now I guess.
by TCfromDubVee on Apr 19, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Um...
Where did you read that every April was bad? I stated that we were “not always” a great April team. There are some excellent Aprils in there, but look at that collection of records, especially years like last season, 1993, 2001, and 2002, and you realize that a very good finish to the season can come from a rough April. Heck, that 1993 team nearly won 105 games!
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
by biggentleben on Apr 20, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I definitely had that perception. In fact, I was shocked to see so many good April’s on the list above.
I wonder how many of those started out like this one and ended up being decent after a good run at the end of the month?
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 19, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
As I recall
some seasons we dominated right out of the gate and other seasons we got off to a ~.500 start and usually heated up and went on some ridiculous streak in July to either close the gap or overtake first place. When we didn’t get off to a good start, it seemed like there would be a two or three week stretch at some point during the middle of the season where we’d win 14 out of 16 or something like that.
Yeah
I always thought we peaked too early. Seems to make sense that the only year we won the WS was the strike shortened season. Though, ofc, the season wasn’t all that short.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
You forgot a year
There was still baseball in April of 1994.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
No, I didn't forget
If you read the years in that post, those are the years since 1991 that the Braves have made the postseason. There was not a postseason in 1994, so there was not reason to post it.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
by biggentleben on Apr 24, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
1994 did in fact, take place,was during the streak, and there was in fact baseball played in April, and since this is a post discussing previous April records, it certainly ought to be included. The strike doesn’t really have a single thing to do with what happened that particular month of that particular year.
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
TC
Where you can argue about anything…
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
No you can’t!
:)
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 25, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, did I do something to you in a past life? Every post you make now is directed towards me, and has little to do with anything else being talked about.
In case you haven’t realized it, I’ve stopped discussing things with you, because nobody wants to see it, and you get completely irrational and cannot have a mutually respectful conversation.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 26, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Go sell it to a liberal.
Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
www.duwanis.com
If that's "every post" I make...
you clearly don’t know the meaning of the word “every”.
And…
I’ve stopped discussing things with you, because nobody wants to see it, and you get completely irrational and cannot have a mutually respectful conversation.
is definitely Kettle calling the Pot black.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Oy
ONCE AGAIN, I was only posting seasons when the Braves made the postseason, so 1994 and 2006-2009 are not there for that reason. Not really hard to understand.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
5. Comments that are intolerant or prejudiced (sexist, racist, homophobic, etc.) in nature, e.g., “Why don’t you go play with your dolls?”, “The Braves shouldn’t sign black players”, “Doesn’t Francoeur look like a fag?”, etc.
Forgive me, but this made me lol. The fact that Francoeur was used in the example made laugh louder than it should have.
Anyway, I agree with everything said. Carry on.
Nathan Richard - Please come home. We all miss you.
I'm not sure which comments / pictures are the reason for this post.
But I do know that for the most part, the game threads have become almost completely unbearable. It’s all f*** this and f*** that and so-and-so is a f******* idiot and our team sucks and Heyward sucks and Fredi sucks, blah, blah, blah. I know I don’t have to read them / take part in them, (and I usually don’t), but it just makes me sad because I remember how enjoyable, witty, and intelligent they used to always be. I’m not a big fan of profanity, but mostly it doesn’t offend me or anything. It’s just gotten to the point that it’s really sort of pointless, because when “bad” words are used all the time, they lose their impact. The only things that really “offends” me, if you want to call it that, is when someone uses the name of God/Jesus in a blatantly inappropriate way or when someone talks about any group in a blatantly degrading way. All the rest…. well, it’s just boring, and if I want to be bored, I don’t have to come here for that.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
by sddbaker on Apr 18, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 14 recs
I don’t do the game threads either. The ST ones were great, 400-600 comments, mostly about the game and team. Now, just too many comments to read and watch the game at the same time. The OT content seems to have regressed. Talking Chop has a reputation as a top flight site, it doesn’t need to be drug into the mud.
"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G
Agreed
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
I just skim past the profanity anyway.
What bothers me is the other part of the post: the “so-and-so is an idiot and our team sucks and Heyward sucks and Fredi sucks, blah, blah…”
We know you don’t like Fredi as a manager. We know you think that pinch-hitting for Freeman was a bad idea. We know you want Heyward higher in the lineup. These things don’t need to take up 60% of every game thread.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
by duwanis on Apr 18, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
amen
i think we argued about this exact thing the other day :P
People are like at least I'm not that guy on stage. That guy on stage is like at least I'm not that guy in the looney bin. The guy in the looney bin are like at least I'm an orange
I talk a lot about how I dislike Fredi, but I use situational analysis to prove that point rather than just disapproving of every move he makes (I.E. I liked the Chipper pinch-hit yesterday). Hopefully I’m not included in this!
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio Stop calling Tommy Hanson "Big Red"
As long as you’re not bringing it up every few minutes, you’re fine by me :P
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
I love swearing, and think it one of the finest forms of human artistic achievement. But I respect those who feel differently. I don’t think I’ve sworn very much at all this season. Mostly ‘cuz Russell Martin’s moved on into the AL.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
Like I said...
or maybe didn’t say, but hoped I implied, I don’t really have a big problem with an appropriately placed f-bomb. It’s just that it gets boring when it’s in almost every post. I think you are just fine, my good fellow.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I concur...
I stopped posting here long ago because of it…
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
This reminds me
Every season since Ive been here (and Ive been a member a long time and was a lurker longer before that…I mean back on the old site before SBN where we might have 5 comments on a thread), there comes a time when I leave TC during the season. It’s usually for 1-3 months during the season when it gets really, really negative. Then I come back later and it’s great again.
So far, it hasnt gotten like that this season. But I suspect that’s because Ive only been able to watch 2 or 3 games and have only participated in 1 or 2 game threads, so Ive missed a lot of the negativity.
To be honest, I actually like the blog a lot more during the off season. Things are much more upbeat.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
I remember those times...
Back when my igloo had dial-up internet.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
I can’t wait until dial up comes to my house. Until then, i continue my quest to make it to Oregon without dieing of dysintery.
Coming soon: winningugly visits Atlanta, takes dump in royhobbs’ Braves hat.
by 10-4 on Apr 19, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
I thought I was the only one “old” enough to remember the 5 comment per thread days. Cheers to you fellow “senior”.
Hard to believe it used to look like this: http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20060719075224/http://www.talkingchop.com/
And apparently it was still SBN back then. I was totally unaware.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
That is awesome. I’d forgotten how blatantly bright everything was back then, thanks for the link. Really cool to re-read some of the older posts too like this one. Who knew Gondeee had a sense of humor??? Only poking big G.
After a little digging, I found some interesting stuff
http://www.talkingchop.com/2006/2/5/21535/70234
http://www.talkingchop.com/2006/2/6/112313/3696
It just seems bizarre to read that now that gondeee has been around so long. I also forgot about his old blog (which is still up, btw).
The last few sentences on the second one are a teensy bit ironic too.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
At the risk of looking really creepy
From another early post:
The rest is history. Martin is now known around the Braves locker room as the Brian McCann clone with glasses!
I just felt like that was something TL2 needed to know about.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
Martin = gondeee btw
In case someone thought it was Prado.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
pics or GTFO
:)
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
Ha!
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 19, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe this is around the time that I joined for the first time. Somehow my profile got deleted and I had to start over.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
Canadian, eh?
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Apr 18, 2011 7:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
fail
supposed to be to mvandonsel
"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones
by MBL1 on Apr 18, 2011 7:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Originally from Alaska...
RoyHobbs, Big Joe, and Smoltz’s Beard always used to give me crap about it.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
What, I never gave you crap about it? Stupid Eskimos always forgetting who called them stupid Eskimos…
I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com
what happened to the rule about not making racist comments?
by JohnRocker4CyYoung on Apr 19, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Eskimo isnt a race
It’s a type of pie.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
What an absolutely fantastic bit of irony here.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 19, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually wanted to mention you as well; however, the person I send smoke signals to, who then translates and posts to TC for me, must have missed your name. Many apologies.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
What do you mean "used to"
I’ve got an eskimo joke in something I’m writing right now
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
And it was a good one. Nice work.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
Still here.....
Never went away, just stopped commenting……kids growing up keeping me busy, people now post MUCH better pictures than I ever did which now makes me….moot? Anyway, I still read every day.
Anyway, this whole thread begs the question – Mrs. Kotsay, where art thou?
Don't sell yourself short
All your Rome photos were always great, always welcome, and especially when the big club was doing bad, bright rays of hope looming in the future.
No wonder nobody likes you, Tuttle... everything's a (Pujols) damn debate.
"This stadium is upside down!!!" -Jim Powell, 4/5/2010
by Cammando2317 on Apr 20, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see why men like these ‘skeleton women’. She needs some dang meat on her bones!
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
How dare you.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 21, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd kill her
With a hug. Not my type at all. Like long legs, but goodness woman, visit a stairmaster and build SOMETHING on them!
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
by biggentleben on Apr 24, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
You know who I REALLY miss?
Velcro Vernacular. If you haven’t been around long enough to remember her hilarious contributions, you should search for and read every single one. Here is just one example, in which “Mr. Heap Goes to Washington”.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I thought about him the other day!
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
Velcro was awesome! It makes me sad that she isn’t around these parts anymore.
People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
Flag this shit as inapprorpiate and we will fuckin deal with it
Okay, just kidding, but that’s within the guidelines of the site, which say:
Excessive profanity is not permitted. As most of us are adults, and in sports profanity can be common, it is allowed in small doses. Just don’t go over the top with a F-bomb-laden tirade. You may not put any cuss words in your signature.
Word!
/Banned!
Oh wait…
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 18, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No problema...
I’m an adult, and like I said, it doesn’t “offend” me, I just find it a bit repetitive.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Also...
those who are ready to write this team off now are just showing their complete ignorance about the game of baseball. There’s a reason they play 162 games, you know.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
by sddbaker on Apr 18, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
in good years they play 163
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Your boy Lincecum better shut down that Colorado offense tonight
Me gots him in fantasy. A CG SO with 10 K’s isn’t asking much, is it?
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 18, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll pass it along to him. We talk to each other on a regular basis using out Sooper Secret Books Conrad, Boy Detective, Decoder Rings. I had to eat a lot of Maypo to get ’em.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
OK...that could be my new sig momentarily
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 18, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I rec’d this simply because you used the phrase “simmer down”.
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
yeah...
Blast from the past there for me.
My daddy always used to tell me to “simmer down”.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Rec'd
It’s a bit much to be on suicide watch after 16 freeking games. To those of you that are the Negative Nancy’s in the crowd, we still have 146 games to go. Settle down.
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
Or Pessimistic Pattys
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
Her too ;oP
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 18, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to post 'winy' FanPosts.
=P
In all seriousness, yes, it has really started to bug me how much Fredi has been criticized after only 16 games around here. The lineup in particular… I mean, no matter how much the ‘beating a dead horse’ phrase gets tossed around, people just don’t get it and continue to harp on it. I know I’m guilty of the occasional whiny comment, but I know I’m definitely not as bad as some other posters that comment negatively about someone on the team every time something goes wrong (for example, Nate is not going to get a hit every time he steps up to the plate, so why do we have to see ‘Nate sucks bring up Schafer’ every time he grounds out?).
Thanks a lot for making it clear what is acceptable and what isn’t around here (not like it wasn’t beforehand; this post just makes it impossible for the warned/banned to complain).
"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB
This doesn't apply to me at all.
But yeah, the OTs have left a lot to be desired lately.
Look for me in the front row of the right field section near the fair pole! Behind Jason Heyward! WOO!
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 18, 2011 2:53 PM EDT reply actions
I sat there last year during a Dodger series
you could feel Heywards aura in the seats & the earth moved when he ran. (poster now swooning.)
A baseball diamond is, most simply, the intersecting of four 90-foot baselines, and, most powerfully, the intersecting of seemingly random lives.
Did I miss another funny fanpost?
Hopefully it wasn’t better than the infamous “Bench Heyward” post by mastermike haha
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.
by TurnerTheBurner on Apr 18, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
But in all seriousness...
Who in their right mind is posting pictures of that stuff? You know, if you want to do that you can go almost anywhere else on the internet. But TC does try to maintain a semblance of professionalism
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.
by TurnerTheBurner on Apr 18, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the afternoon OT's
someone rocked a Bacon Bikini picture in the OT. Here I am at work, and shazam…that pops up on my screen. I forgot who did it…but immediately, a couple people posted the ol’ “NSFW.”
Imma get fired…LOL
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallet bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Apr 18, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Bench Heyward post by mastermike, the “Trade that Needs to happen and probably will happen (talking about Cody Ross)”, and some of my TalkChopper’s Gazette posts take the taco.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Braves losing leaves me in a pissy mood,
I’m sorry for anything I have said in the past and for the things I will say in the future. It’s one thing to be a little pissy just don’t overdo it.
I’m an extreme fan and tend to be at one extreme or the other. I’m fully prepared to be on the good extreme end by November!
I love the info on this blog, I really do, however pieces like this seem a bit contradictory to the blog. If sexual discrimination isn’t going to be tolerated, the “Twhat did I say on Twitter”, no matter the clever points, should be removed.
With that being said, keep up the good work. The site makes me a more knowledgeable baseball fan, but unlike bravesjournal, hasnt made me a more mature blogger. Keep up the good work. Change is a good thing. I’m trying to be real here, so please don’t take my post the wrong way.
Just Beachy here. How 'bout you?
Just now seeing this...if I may add:
(which this it +.97 gets you a Biggie Fry)…
I think people may, in the heat of the moment of the OTs, forget the “guidelines” and post comments and let the vulgarity fly without thinking. I can handle that. The only thing that makes me cringe is when, like someone stated above, I read someone using God/Jesus in a blatant disrespectful way, that bothers me. I skim past those quickly, wishing I hadn’t seen it.
A “suggestion” if I might add – is in regard to some images that are being posted. We’ve all seen those that are somewhat graphic, sometimes huge in size, with words like F**K and/or risque in nature. If there is a title, I quickly close them. But – keep in mind that they first appear open. I’ve often thought about people who might (because of these types of things) hesitate to get on the OTs if they are at work, in the room with their kids or other situation where these kind of images might be awkward if someone can see the screen. Especially if extremely large (or animated) as some of them have been lately.
It would be nice if people who want to share that type of image consider posting it as a LINK instead. Those interested can then simply click the link and view the graphic. You still get your point across, get to comment back and forth with others yet without having them displayed openly. It’s done all the time with YouTube video clips, etc.
Look, I’m no prude, but sometimes it gets pretty over the top.
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I was told this on a thread a few days ago when I commented (tongue-in-cheek) that I thought I had stumbled on the Playboy thread after several animated bouncy boobed images in a row…
“Really?I’ll admit that comment kind of struck me as the “asked for it” logic because I’m a gal and I’m here amongst all you guys. But there might be people (other than female) that may not appreciate such in your face type of stuff on the screen if they are viewing TC at work etc.
Because this seems like a problem you might have anticipated considering you joined an overwhelmingly male community.”
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And, yes I do realize that I just
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"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
by NCChopper on Apr 19, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Posting images as links isn’t a bad idea. I’ve done it before. Those who want to see it can, without risking the ire of anyone else.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
then again
NO ONE would EVER look at them. Their are certain things people would enjoy if they were just posted here, that they wouldnt bother to view through a link, unsure what they’d be getting or what damage they could do to their computer. Now, in what proportion that is to the images that have been getting posted and are offending people, I will freely admit I do not know, But what would the game threads be without llamasaurus? Would that have even caught on?
My proposal would involve a system of rules for posting pictures that would include sizing guidelines, mandatory subject lines, content, etc. If any of these were broken an attending moderaor could issue a ban for a time that would be pre-determined and posted along with the rules in a recomended fanpost. What I would NOT enjoy, is if someone who is not even a fan of our team first and foremost starts dictating the policies here.
"IN THE AIR LEFT FIELD- THAT'LL DO IT!... AND IT KEEPS ON GOING; THAT IS A HOMERUN!"
Talking Chop: where you get "final warnings" for calling out blog authors who quit on the team in a pennant race
Please note...
she said “that type” of image. Obviously she was not talking about llamasaurus, she was talking about things like super silicone enhanced bacon-wearers and silly gifs of perpetually bouncing boobs.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I noted what she said, I was worried with the reply to her by TL2, that things might be taken too far, and that is why I replied to that comment
"IN THE AIR LEFT FIELD- THAT'LL DO IT!... AND IT KEEPS ON GOING; THAT IS A HOMERUN!"
Talking Chop: where you get "final warnings" for calling out blog authors who quit on the team in a pennant race
To be perfectly clear, I didn’t mean every image should be posted as a link only.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
Good to hear
I was honestly more worried that someone else would kind evolve it further from there, because it was non-specific, but as long as my point is out there, and there is awareness of an opposition to this, I am satisfied.
"IN THE AIR LEFT FIELD- THAT'LL DO IT!... AND IT KEEPS ON GOING; THAT IS A HOMERUN!"
Talking Chop: where you get "final warnings" for calling out blog authors who quit on the team in a pennant race
REC'D for obvious 100% right-in-every-way-ness.
The “we’re a bunch of guys here and if you don’t like our lewd pictures you shouldn’t be here” mentality doesn’t really cut it with me, and obviously not with our intrepid leader, either.
And if you have a bulls-eye on you, they can shoot their arrows at me as well. I’ve got your back on this one!
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I just get them back by talking about how good looking some of the players are.
That’ll learn ’em!!
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
I suggest photographic proof....
maybe like the infamous Grady Sizemore pics?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
hmmm...
bad example. Those were stolen pictures. Maybe like this:
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
See I’m not bothered in the least. It has zero affect on me. It affected my perception, involvement or enjoyment of the thread in any way.
Now why are bouncing boobs so offensive?
But what about this one?
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Apr 19, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, thats me taking the bull by the horns, its how I like to run my business. Its a metaphor. But that actually happened though
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Just not appropriate for the topic...
If I were to have animated gifs of boobs bouncing around all over my work computer screen, I’m liable to get in trouble. Not so much of an ordeal if it’s clogged with galloping rainbow llamasauruses.
Beyond that, it’s juvenile and uncouth.
I definitely enjoy catching a bounce or two every now and again, but this simply isn’t the place for it. There are literally millions of sites specializing in these types of images (sfw and nsfw alike) that I can run into without even searching it out…why does it need to be here??
Rather than asking why it’s offensive, perhaps you should ask yourself what you’re adding to this site, in general, and the thread these images are posted in. Beyond a immature leer or two and a shared expression of wonderment amongst the three people that haven’t seen the animated elmo boob lady, I imagine you’re not adding anything at all.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
by cthabeerman on Apr 19, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes.
Excellently stated.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
That's because it's not that bad.
How about a gif of bouncing male uh…. parts? Actually there are some much more revealing photos of Gabe Kaplan (the guy above) that I found, but I didn’t use them because they were inappropriate. There’s a line there, and it’s really not that hard to figure out where that line is. In the original post the picture of Scarlett Johanson was not over the line.
So, because the picture above has no effect on you, doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be affected by pictures of almost nude women on a baseball blog. I come here to be a part of a community united by their affection for the Atlanta Braves. It is a Braves blog. If I wanted to be bombarded with NSFW pictures and gifs of women, then I would go to a site where those are commonplace. I understand there are many such sites … probably a lot more of them than Braves baseball sites. I think the assertion that I should have to put up with anything and everything that “guys like” because this is a baseball blog is about the silliest thing I’ve ever heard. Baseball is not the exclusive property of the male sex, contrary to what Rob Dibble may think.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
by sddbaker on Apr 19, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was in no way saying women should be excluded from full and active participation in the blog but they should also realize that there is a tiny, small chance that a predominantly male community that on average spends a rather long time on the internet might post the random picture of a woman. And if that is how the community wants to interact then it should only be at the discretion of the moderators to limit these interactions.
I would definitely say that the above picture is almost exactly comparable to the pictures of katy perry jumping up and down posted in the thread. Both show off the body as the primary attraction except the above picture has more clothing. You will have no problem posting those images and you shouldn’t. I’m all for equality I just think that people’s subjective worldview shouldn’t define the fine line that both sexes have the right to approach.
Gabe Kaplan?
He didn’t age too well.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
Yeah, I know...
There are two of them!
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I didn’t mean that to be as intense as it sounded. You are welcome and valued community in my eyes. But that doesn’t mean that your sensibilities and interests match the communities or that yours should trump others. The point I was trying to make is that your comfort shouldn’t trump a TC’ers ability to “express” themselves however they want. I’m obviously not talking about nudity or things that most people would call “outside of the pale” but I don’t think some of the things you are referring to, even an accidentally gigantic picture of the lovely scarlett johansson (which is not nearly as graphic as the pictures plastered on the front cover of countlessly crude magazines at your local grocery store’s check out line) fit the bill.
I really don’t mean to sound combative but I hope that you don’t allow a few unsavory occurrences ruin your whole experience or even affect you at all. I hope it isn’t a “see no evil, hear no evil” thing because if so be careful on this internet thing.
For what little I may add to this dialogue, I’m not offended so much as bored by the practice. And I don’t necessarily want equal time and space to post pictures of hot guys because that’s not really what I come here to do.
I think the idea might be that, in this age, there are so many places online to gawk at scantily-clad people. But there are very few in which you can converse with your peers about the Braves in real-time. There are many reasons people come to TC, from statistical analysis to gamethreads to general conviviality. I doubt cleavage is one of those reasons.
It’s not an epic struggle of ideology or free speech. We’re not writing the Constitution here. There shouldn’t be anything wrong with staring at breasts on one site and talking about baseball (more or less) on the other.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
It’s not an epic struggle of ideology or free speech.
It always turns into one, though; “it’s my God-given right to post what I want here, and if you don’t like it, that’s tough.”
It’s just that this time it’s hilarious, because people are getting upset about whether or not they’re allowed to post .gifs.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
I appreciate the back and forth.
But I see a lot of assumptions that simply aren’t true.
I never said I was offended.
I never asked that anyone remove a post made (you can’t delete anything after it’s posted).
The purpose of my comments were – simply to ask that people who want to share some what may consider “risque” images think about being courteous and doing so via a clickable LINK. I never said not to post them at all. I was simply trying to speak on behalf of those on TC who might be connecting from work, around young kids, and/or who might not want to see it.
The TCers who fall in that category may wish to participate more, but don’t.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
I just enjoy a good discussion really so we kind of ran with the premise, sorry for using your name specifically so many times but I only meant it as an abstract example since I knew they were not your words.
I hope I didn’t offend you, truly, that was never my intention.
I appreciate that.
You keep mentioning it, but the ScarJo photo was not the proverbial “straw”, and my “Playboy thread” comment was truly tongue-in-cheek.
But, I think even the most ardent fan of big tits had to wonder if the pair swinging like a pair of bull testicles in a rodeo that someone posted the other day wasn’t a bit much.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
I didn’t participate in the thread being discussed, so “the pair swinging like a pair of bull testicles” sounds as if there was nudity involved because usually clothing restricts such movement. I’m a 27 year old, emphatically heterosexual male; or as you would put it, “the most ardent fan of big tits.” Having said that, this is not a site where I consider nudity, or any pics/gifs not suited for cable tv, acceptable. There are minors that participate these threads, we should keep that in mind.
I thought the Playboy comment was funny. That was how I took it.
And honestly, I’m a little jealous that I didn’t think of it first :\ …I’m all for smart ass comments!
This whole topic is why I don’t post pictures at all; and also why I’m very careful to limit the number and lewdness of my comments about Prado, Uggla, etc.
Questionable pictures via link is a great idea.
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
I like you. You can stay.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 20, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you! :)
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
....I'm not so sure having justin like you is a good thing....
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
I like you.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 20, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
uh-oh…am I jinxed now?
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
More like repulsive to everyone now.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
Speak for yourself.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
Gee, thanks.
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
I think that was more of a slap at me than you.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 20, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It's all in jest, I assure you :)
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
i missed a ScarJo photo? Dammit!
Coming soon: winningugly visits Atlanta, takes dump in royhobbs’ Braves hat.
so would now be an inappropriate time to post a littany of ScarJo pictures of her scantily clad body
P.S. I need an html primer on the newest sarcasm font that is all the craze amongst the TC crowd
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Sorry, I should’ve posted a disclaimer, I guess. I know it wasn’t really a big deal for you, I was just getting caught up in the conversation :)
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
I enjoyed reading your conversation.
You’re a much better debater and communicator than I :-)
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
Duwanis and I always have good conversations. And the best part is that he doesn’t take it personally like sdbaker seems to. He also is pretty factually correct, another notable difference.
In all seriousness he is a fun debate opponent. Keeps it lively on here. But as sdbaker pointed out my simple, knuckle dragging male mind can’t seem to get wishes of being with a woman for the first time out of my brain. Its a miracle that I keep my thoughts straight..
You've done a marvelous job...
of misstating and characterizing most of what I’ve said. But don’t let the truth get in the way of trying to make yourself look good.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Its a trick I learned from you. You did imply that I was a cancer on the community, that I am somehow self involved and acting arrogantly by putting my rights above others (complete fabrication) and then stated something completely false.
You also said that I have to gawk at pictures of girls online to make up for a lack of the flesh and blood version. So before you lecture me about letting the truth get in the way of anything why don’t you realize it was your misinformation and the fact that you let a misguided and incorrect perception inform you of things that simply aren’t true.
If you are going to tell me that you didn’t mean to characterize me negatively in either of the two posts you made on the subject or that there wasn’t any animosity well I’m not buying it.
You obviously didn’t read anything I wrote at all and simply jumped to your own misinformed decisions. You are definitely not the victim and would be better served sticking with saying how wrong you were in the original post instead of backtracking to criticize me in other ways.
Ahh....
I guess you think if you keep repeating something it will make it true. I know what I said, and since it’s all there in black and white, there’s really not much point in arguing about it — anyone who wants to can scroll up and read it. I said I was incorrect about about you posting the gifs as soon as you pointed it out to me. Saying I “obviously didn’t read anything you wrote at all and jumped to my own misinformed decisions” is very ironic, in that you are jumping to the incorrect conclusion that I would comment on anything I had not read. You do seem very capable of reading an amazing number of things into some statements I made. It’s almost enough to make me think the gentleman doth protest too much.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Oh, look she tried to make a point subtly? Thats impressive.
The point I’m making is that you based what I interpreted as a personal attack on incorrect information. Rather than being so defensive apologize because we both know that when you said “basically, get over yourself” you didn’t mean it as a nice thing. Quit trying to kid yourself.
Also, you were incorrect on my points on several occasions leading me to believe you either didn’t read or didn’t understand my points. If that is the case then there is really no reason for you to be in this discussion.
All in all, a clever way to backtrack, play defense and be completely non-responsive to everything I posted.
Since we are playing drug store psychologist, I wonder why you had such a problem with pictures of really attractive girls while none of us have problems with you posting a picture of what you deem an attractive guy as a retaliation. I don’t “protest too much” I tried to get the sentiment of your statement.
Please do something you haven’t tried to do this conversation and explain to me exactly what your thoughts and feelings were when you posted to me. I imagine it was quick because you couldn’t be bothered with things like “fact checks” or “reading” so please try to capture that moment for me.
YOU WIN.
You are right and I am wrong. You are smart and I am stupid. You are young and attractive and I am old and ugly. You are loved and respected by everyone on this blog and I am hated and reviled.
And seriously, you do need to sort of get over yourself.
Goodbye, and good luck.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Now see
Was that so hard?
By the way it was your arrogance that led you to this indefensible mess. I did not make this personal to start with, you did. Before you try to act the innocent victim keep in mind how this started.
I do appreciate you not continuing the farce of “replying.”
In what way do I need to get over myself. How dare I be so arrogant as to defend myself when someone attacks me with false information and bad intent?
I’m sorry that your picture of a half naked man didnt make us as angry as a gif of bouncy breasts obviously made you but it is really not my fault.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
It's quite entertaining...
to see how badly you have to have the last word.
Can he resist?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Says the lady who said goodnight 3 times, kept responding and then adds to a long dead discussion about me needing to get the last word. The irony is unbelievable.
This is just hilarious now.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
I think it is pretty funny too. I mean honestly, all she can say at this point is that I “have to have the last word.” Anyway baker I just had to point out the irony, I could care less about your perception of me or anything else.
The last word is yours. GO!
lol
It’s hilarious because you jumped in to argue with her about whether or not you had to have the last word. :)
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
Well in my defense she did post a reply directly to one of my messages and since she has stopped adding anything helpful to the discussion (one could argue that fact didn’t change over the course of the discussion) I just have to wonder why she is still posting especially after saying so many times that she was done.
It doesn’t matter to me really. I don’t take any of this personally and considering just how the conversation evolved between sddbaker and me I certainly feel no need to compensate with getting the last word.
Anyway the “last word” thing is pretty weak since these posts exist in the thread as long as the thread does. It isn’t like we are having a face to face real time argument. There is a history of everything posted so responding to something that is a reply on my message means nothing.
You are not hated or reviled…the rest I cannot speak to but i will defend mu first statement
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
You’re a much better debater and communicator than I :-)
If I am, it’s only because I spend too much time having silly arguments on the internet. :)
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
I stopped reading right about here.
But that doesn’t mean that your sensibilities and interests match the communities or that yours should trump others.
This is just absurd, because it’s so absolutist. Basically what you’re saying here is “I can post whatever the majority of people think is cool, because otherwise, hey, you’re outnumbered.” Minority rights is an important part of each and every successful community. If, in this case, it means not directly posting pictures that someone else has asked you not to post… is that really so much of an infringement on your participation in the community?
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
REPLY FAIL FTW
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
So what is the alternative? Every single person can delete any post they want? If you had kept reading you would have noticed i said this obviously doesn’t cover everything especially things that we can all agree to be obscene (like a gif of a sexual act, duh)
I get that minority rights are important but that doesn’t mean she gets to draw the line wherever she wants and say that “this offends me.” I made that clear in my post…
So what is the alternative? Every single person can delete any post they want?
That’s just petty, and you’re distracting from the issue. It’s not about “anyone getting to draw the line where they want.” What’s so damn hard about respecting the wish of another member of the community? I will repeat my original question: if respecting these wishes means not directly posting pictures that someone else has asked you not to post… is that really so much of an infringement on your participation in the community?
I get that minority rights are important
If you’re saying that her opinion on this matter is immediately invalid because this community is chiefly composed of males, then no, you don’t.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
Yes it is too much of an infringement. What is so offensive about a picture of scarlett johansson? My response is, how is she being violated. Like C said underneath this, and this is the point you didn’t seem to notice, that she can decide what offends her and that is fine but what does her sense of decency define anything. She can have her opinion but why is hers law in an arena that, barring an almost categorically offensive image, (a clothed picture of scarlett johansson obviously doesnt apply) is not hers to legislate.
She always has the option to minimize the picture or just not look at it. You won’t ever get me to agree that her sensibilities trump my right to express myself.
She has the right to be offended but just her, or a few people, being offended shouldn’t trump the concept of freedom of expression. Freedom of expression definitely trumps her being “offended” by something that people can see in a grocery store line. I appreciate you trying to stand up for her “rights” but you are just picking and choosing small points to argue rather than having any sort of bigger picture.
You could argue that freedom of speech is limited if it would violate the rights of another, such as a fire in a crowded theatre, but common sense says that an ensuing stampeded and a picture of a woman are not the same sort of violation.
It's not about freedom of speech.
It’s not about freedom of expression.
It’s not about your rights or privileges as a human being.
It’s about making this site a better place for everybody involved. If you’re not willing to give up this minor thing for that, then you’ve got the wrong attitude.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
And why does she or you decide what makes it a better place. You are advocating that it should and I don’t buy it. I dont think the moderators do either.
And it really has nothing to do with attitude as much as how the interactions of this blog take place and are governed. Thats the bottom line.
I'm advocating that when someone says "I don't like seeing that..."
…and it’s a reasonable request… then it’s a better place when the community says “OK, I can respect that” instead of saying “sucks to be you, I like seeing it!”
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
Okay so where is the line? In order for us to start interacting using this new rule on this community it must be better defined than that someone is offended by it.
And by the way, what is so much more offensive about that picture of scarlett johansson or NCChopper’s avatar which has a picture of her wearing a shirt. Her signature used to say “My avatar has a message for Bobby” followed by “Curve- the loveliest distance between two points” That sounds kind of suggestive. Yet she didn’t find that the least bit offensive. I certainly didnt.
So why is this different? I know that I am speaking to you but not her but why does she get to make the distinction. And that is the ultimate problem, that she doesn’t get to make that distinction. She joined the community the community didn’t join her.
The moderators decide these things because it is their (or more accurately Gondee’s) website. That is there right. “Mutual respect” or a “universal G rating” are in no way competitive values. While they might be nice we should not base the entire community on it, that makes zero sense.
I don’t know what she considers offensive, or why; there’s also no point in drawing a line in the sand and saying “anything worse than this is bad” because that’s just silly. The point I’m trying to make is that if somebody asks you to stop, or says they don’t enjoy a certain type of post, or whatever, and the thing they’re asking you to stop isn’t really relevant to the site, then the polite and respectful thing to do is acquiesce.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
First of all, someone saying stop and us continuing is not what happened (at least if it did I apologize and don’t remember it this way.)
Also, it isn’t like she is subjected to some inescapable evil. She has many options, and most of them are individual decisions she can make (since what we are talking about is a personal issue) that doesn’t affect the community at large.
While I agree that is polite and respectful, it is also polite and respectful to not have your personal whims dictate the behavior of a large community.
But none of this matters, since we can’t draw a line in the sand, and since we can’t rely on the completely subjective and ever-changing whims of one person. If one person thinks something is offensive do I think that that should be the law of the land? No. Is it polite to subject someone to something that they are offended by? No. Should that matter at all? No.
Again, the overall point is that the moderators decide, no one else. Politeness is optional and like I said, a double-edged sword. If we want to simplify this to values such as respect vs. freedom of speech (before you throw this out the window on principle consider that this is really what we are talking about.
If you are trying to argue that we should keep the site pure and focused solely on Braves Baseball then I would argue that that really isn’t the purpose of the site. The purpose is to provide a forum for fans linked by the common value of braves fandom. Off topic is part of a tradition here.
This of course has limits, and I absolutely agree that certain things can be objectively proven to be offensive and that those things should be moderated. We have people for just such a purpose. But I also think we are missing each other because we aren’t talking about things objectively offensive, we are talking about something offensive to one person. I haven’t heard anyone explain what makes it so unbearably offensive (especially considering you can see pictures like the one I posted and worse, with catchy article titles such as “How to have the best orgasm ever” in your grocery store line.
Why is a picture of a fully clothed Scarlett Johansson “beyond the pale” of acceptable content in your mind (and I reiterate for the 100th time that empirical evidence shows that the moderators disagree).
One last try.
It’s not about what moderators do.
It’s not about why it’s undesirable.
It’s not about what you can and can’t do, or what should be “law of the land.”
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
I have responded to everything you have had to say the “respect” thing and I am unmoved. I mentioned all these things because they outweigh someone being offended by pictures. By the way, they were already posted when she even joined the thread in the first place. So while I am arguing about it ultimately affecting what people post, in this case we are talking about what has already been posted. So should 6 posts have been deleted because NCChopper found them offensive (let me reiterate, after the fact) No. And not just because that is a silly way for the community to interact but because her subjective sense of offensive (which as I said is obviously as unique as she is) has been violated.
In fairness, you started this discussion talking about minority rights so at least some point you were talking about all of the things you said we aren’t discussing. But please tell me what is the point now, because your argument has shrunk over the course of our conversation.
Again, the ultimate point is that NCChopper doesn’t get to decide. She has ever right to complain if she finds something offensive and I encourage her to do so. If so many people also find it offensive that it is obvious that it is contrary to the overall values of the TC community then it should be deleted. Or better yet, if a moderator, also an individual, finds it offensive he/she can delete it.
If you aren’t talking about these things then the maximum impact your argument has is “wouldn’t it be nice, polite and respectful and such a better community if you tried not to offend people.” But that is an impossibly silly value for a community to have. I would never ask NCChopper to be sure to have my feelings and sensibilities in mind when she is composing her post. Its her post. I have the opportunity to respond in whatever way I want. These are our rights. We are in a largely unregulated community beyond the moderators. There are very few other rules.
Now if the moderator decides that either of our posts are offensive then they will take care of it. I don’t get what is so unacceptable. Your argument seems to be more talking about an unattainable goal. So if you want me to agree that an unrealistic and impossible to implement goal might make the community a better place sure why not? My agreement to this point means nothing because the ideal is simply unrealistic. We can’t anticipate the personal worldview of every one of the thousand plus members of TC and we shouldn’t try.
Whatever.
You keep talking about what’s “allowed.” When you’re not talking about what’s “allowed,” you’re acting like I’m suggesting that you somehow magically avoid to post anything that makes people uncomfortable.
I’m saying when someone says “I don’t like this,” and it’s something that won’t hurt the site if it wasn’t there, then the nice thing to do is say “ok, I won’t post it.” I have no idea why this is such a difficult idea, but I’m tired of trying to explain it because there’s really no simpler way to put it.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
I just don’t think that the “nice thing to do” is as important as you do. I think there are more important things and at the point that people’s ability to expression itself on a blog that thrives on an active community is silly. Plus she has every right to post whatever she wants, within the realm of common sense, just like everyone else. I think that is as simply as I can respond that isn’t more elaborately written above.
I just don’t think that the "nice thing to do" is as important as you do.
Maybe this helps explain why you find “images” of women so important. Real, actual, flesh and blood women tend to like that “nice thing to do” stuff.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
You know you are the only person yet to resort to personal attacks. Your ignorance is telling as exhibited here and the fact that you are apparently not competent enough to look up ridiculously matter of fact statements.
I posted one image in response to Fat Dingflyer saying he wishes Scarlett Johansson to fall on his lap. I accidentally didnt reply without a title and the incorrect size. I even showed my girlfriend how funny it looked that such a huge picture of a woman dominated a baseball thread.
Again, what are you talking about? Why not step away from the blind rage and realize you are misinformed.
I'd like to comment on this part of yours:
And by the way, what is so much more offensive about that picture of scarlett johansson or NCChopper’s avatar which has a picture of her wearing a shirt. Her signature used to say "My avatar has a message for Bobby" followed by "Curve- the loveliest distance between two points" That sounds kind of suggestive. Yet she didn’t find that the least bit offensive. I certainly didnt.
So why is this different? I know that I am speaking to you but not her but why does she get to make the distinction. And that is the ultimate problem, that she doesn’t get to make that distinction. She joined the community the community didn’t join her.
Key difference IMO, is …
My tiny avatar and signature (suggestive or not) are so tiny , heck even if bolded – they would never be something that would make anyone feel the need to minimize the screen if their boss/co-worker or 8-yr old kid walked by.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
I really wasn’t trying to criticize you. I don’t think that your signature or avatar is offensive I was just illustrating how complex and subjective a single person’s perspective can be. I get that your signature is pretty objectively inoffensive I was just trying to make a point.
And you continue to miss mine entirely.
However, I think overall, the community members here get what I was trying to say.
That’s what’s important to me other than trying to convince you of anything.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
Nah NCChopper I agree with you and your premise just clarifying where that post was coming for so it didn’t sound like a person attack.
I think the standard of not posting anything that you would minimize the screen at work or in front of kids is a good one.
And her being female and me being male isn’t any point I’ve ever made. The only point is that her being female makes her a slightly rare demographic in this community so perhaps her values aren’t the same as others. Since she knowingly entered this community (think of it as a social contract) then why are her values and claims of violation (which you are making far more vocally than she is) trump cards on a community being on self expression.
"Really?
Because this seems like a problem you might have anticipated considering you joined an overwhelmingly male community."
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
Did you read the post you replied to?
“And her being female and me being male isn’t any point I’ve ever made. The only point is that her being female makes her a slightly rare demographic in this community so perhaps her values aren’t the same as others. Since she knowingly entered this community (think of it as a social contract) then why are her values and claims of violation (which you are making far more vocally than she is) trump cards on a community being on self expression.”
It isnt because I am a misogynist, its because she is a rare demographic. Social Contract etc. Dude please read the post in its entirety before responding.
And it does seem like a problem she might have anticipated. Oddly enough that quote you posted doesn’t say anything about her being female, just about the characteristics of an overwhelmingly male community.
Did you read the post you replied to?
You betcha. But thanks for quoting it again, just in case I’m too lazy to scroll up the page five ticks.
It isnt because I am a misogynist, its because she is a rare demographic. Social Contract etc. Dude please read the post in its entirety before responding.
You can say “social contract” all you want, that doesn’t change the question of whether or not you try to be respectful of others :)
And it does seem like a problem she might have anticipated. Oddly enough that quote you posted doesn’t say anything about her being female, just about the characteristics of an overwhelmingly male community.
Oh, so you didn’t know she was female when you made that response, and that in no way colored your tone or viewpoint? Please.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
Well if you read the post you missed the points I tried to make.
I say Social Contract because it is relevant. We all agreed to terms and conditions before joining this community. We agreed to be moderated by the moderators.
I knew she was female but all I mentioned was that this is an overwhelmingly male community. Why would her being female be important? Because she might have a different perspective.
I didn’t post anything that “disrespected her” and I don’t see why you are acting as the moral police when we literally have people here just to insure the community flows smoothly. Let them decide respect, not you.
I’m not trying to be the “moral police.” I never said you “disrespected her.” And a social contract isn’t relevant, because we’re not talking about obligations. I’m sorry that I’ve let you pull me into silly tangents, and it won’t happen again in this conversation :)
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
We are talking about a social contract because just as we agreed to be in society (much more implicitly than the process of joining this blog) we agreed to terms and conditions, were given a wait period, and did other things as we joined this blog. By agreeing to their terms we signed a contract of sorts with this community and its staff. Obligations aren’t the entirety of the social contract though reciprocal obligations are at its core. Part of it is how we entered into a community and what that means which is very much part of our discussion.
I’m not trying to allow the conversation to digress I just want to make sure you are understanding the entirety of my argument and vice versa. We have interacted on several times and while we are equally argumentative and seem to disagree I am really not an unreasonable fellow.
We’re not talking about a social contract because we’re not talking about terms and conditions. At no point am I suggesting anything be made into a rule of the site.
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
No no no, I mean that we agreed to the sites’ terms and conditions upon joining. This and the fact that we are a community with rules makes us applicable to the social contract. Social contract isn’t always in the scope of governance or countries, it can just be any knowing agreement that mutually binds two parties on almost any scale. The terms and conditions are merely a codification of our agreement which might make the Social Contract easier to understand in terms of its application to this discussion.
But beyond all that popular recognition of this site as a community with any kind of rules is a sort of social contract.
You are missing the application of the Social Contract argument, which I assure you applies. We agreed to certain things specifically upon joining and other things implicitly (like posting guidelines- further proof of social contract’s relevance.)
Part of the rules we agreed to abide by in order to interact on this site is that the moderators can use their discretion in terms of editing or deleting comments or issuing bans (which is ultimately the point of the thread which begot this discussion.) If one person finds something offensive and a moderator disagrees then nothing will be done, and rightly so.
The pictures were posted, moderators saw them (a moderator even re-posted it) and they were not deleted because in the eyes of the law makers and enforcers of this community (moderators of this website) they were not objectively offensive. NCChopper’s (or more accurately, since you are speaking on her behalf sort of, your) subjective sense of morals and what is or isnt offensive is irrelevant. We knew all this at the onset and its all that matters to this discussion.
Anyway duwanis this is silly, we are in a community in which rules were agreed upon. Obviously the rules are governed by our moderators. This bit is irrefutable regardless of ideology.
Not only was one of the posts, a correctly small picture of scarlett johansson with a title (reversing an error I made accidentally) was posted BY A MODERATOR and other images ensued.
They were never deleted. My original post was only because it was too large and didnt have a title (I Intended it to be different but I failed, an accident) not because it was crude.
So rather than saying, it offended somebody OMG, we should be asking if it offended our moderators. If it did not then all of this discussion is irrelevant. The pictures that I am referring to did not offend the moderators and remained in the thread.
The End
Yes she does.
If it offends her, it offends her. She has every right to speak against it. Everyone gets to draw their own line. I don’t know that I have a line, personally, but I support anyone’s right to make the distinction between what is and is not offensive in their own eyes.
That doesn’t mean her opinion supersedes yours, or that yours supersedes hers.
In regards to TC as a site, it is very clear that the admin, the moderators, authors, etc., want to make this experience inclusive. If your personal tastes offends others and threatens the experience of others, they absolutely have the right to step in and end any behavior that is offensive.
That doesn’t mean everything everyone says may or should be censured, but there is a very loose application of rules in such situations. The fact that these images add nothing to the main topic at hand (Braves baseball) makes these images extraneous at best, and exclusive at worst. Simply put, this site can run optimally without these images, but not without valuable members that do a lot to include others into a wonderful (at times…) community.
To put it bluntly, her participation is far more important than your desire to post suggestive images.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I didnt read each of the posts on this thread.
So maybe this was already mentioned. Apologies if so.
In the end, it doesn’t matter what any of you want. This blog is a private entity owned by someone else — whether that be gondeee or SBN. Either way, it’s up to them to decide what is and isn’t permissible on this site.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
A good point
Sorry for throwing you under the bus, almighty moderator, but a moderator posted the initial picture (of a fully clothed woman) that led to the “Playboy Cyber Club for Moral Corruption and Facism.”
You know what...
I think you are kidding yourself if you think the picture of Scarlett Johansen was the problem. You didn’t post that. You posted the bouncy boobs. That was when it became “too much”. I also don’t understand why you seem to feel that the moderators are supporting your position. I don’t believe that is the case at all. Another thing that seems sort of interesting is that all of a sudden, this is a problem, when its not been one for years and years, because until you came along, no one seemed to feel that their “right to post what they want” trumped the concept of respecting all the members of the community. Actually, the only other time I can remember this coming up, a valued and longstanding female member of the community was very upset, and the poster was banned.
So, basically, get over yourself.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Incorrect. I posted the original picture of scarlett johansson in the game thread which was later reposted by a moderator in the post-game thread. I did not post the pictures of Katy Perry and I have no idea where you got that idea.
You are really ill-informed and I wish you would research what you say before you say it. For example, look at my post history, one picture of scarlett johannson which you won’t find because it was incorrectly formatted and thus deleted. That was the only reason, mvhsbball said it was because it lacked a title.
What are you talking about?
Okay...
I was mistaken about you posting the gifs I was referring to. That really doesn’t make that much of a difference to any of what I am saying, as you are the making the assertion that your “rights” trump all else.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
And that makes me a bad person? You kept telling me how full of myself I am and how obsessed with posting half-naked pictures I am (how quickly you make ignorant assumptions). Please back that up since your opinion in that matter seems not to have changed.
Anyway, you posted a picture comparable to any of the others. An assertion of your right to post what you want (within certain guidelines) and I applaud it.
Now why the apparent hatred? I doubt Duwanis, who contributed most of the discussion, has any sort of personal dislike of me or that I am a cancer on this community.
Also, I’m not saying my rights trump all else but that we all have rights and they are important. I never even said they ultimately trump everything else if you had read the discussion. I noted that there are limitations that are judged by moderators who obviously didn’t think any of the images or gifs that we are talking about were offensive or would have deleted them. Basically, OUR right to post what we want (even with their aforementioned limitations, trumps most everything else. We all have the right. I don’t think I’m special, maybe I think general freedom of speech is though.
First....
“freedom of speech” does not apply here. This is a private blog, and you or I have no right to post anything.
Also, I wonder why you assume I have any sort of personal feelings for you of any sort, just because I have opinions you don’t agree with, and I expressed them. I certainly never said you are “bad person”, I never said you were “obsessed” with anything, and I certainly didn’t “keep telling” you anything. Maybe you are the one making “ignorant assumptions”?
The fact that the pictures were not deleted does not, in my opinion, mean that the moderators find them to be okay. The post we are commenting on seems to suggest otherwise. I’m getting “okay, some people are pushing the limits, and those people need to police themselves before we have to”. At least that’s how I interpret this:
it’s come to my attention that some folks have been commenting and posting pictures that are inappropriate.As I commented earlier, I know of at least one instance where someone was banned for posting a similar image.
Perhaps some clarification is needed?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Freedom of Speech exists except that its check is the moderators.
The point I was making with that is that the .gifs were obviously not deleted and neither was the Scarlett Johannson picture. So at that point can we assume that the moderators are saying that that type of picture is okay.
Basically they have spoken by not deleting the pictures in question.
I’m glad that you agree that we are in a governed community, granting that and that the pictures weren’t deleted obviously they did not break any of the rules of our community. So whats the stink?
Also, I appreciate that you can change tact so quickly but are you really going to respond so civilly after your reactionary, ignorant posts filled with personal attacks (which by the way are violations of the rules we agreed upon ironically enough.)
Maybe you should read this before your ignorance rears its ugly head again.
Thanks for the link...
I have read them several times in the past few years, and I’m aware of what they say. Please show me where I have violated them.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
That was just a side point, the big issue is to explain to me how I violated them or even how the fully clothed pictures that could easily be shown on TV violated them.
Also you said it has nothing to do with freedom of speech and that is literally how gondee started the post. I thought it was funny, but now I realize that given your intimate knowledge of that page that it is actually irony.
Please show me...
where I made posts filled with personal attacks. Please, because I really do not know what you are talking about, and I would like to know.
You keep calling me ignorant. Maybe I consider that a personal attack. Could you please tell me specifically what you are asserting I am ignorant of?
I guess I have to repeat this. Not deleting the pictures does not prove that Gondee considers them appropriate for this blog, especially since he actually states that they are inappropriate. Maybe he wants people to be able to see an example of an inappropriate picture. Only he can say for certain how he feels, and I’m sure he won’t hesitate to do so.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
You were ignorant in your summary of my arguments I never said anything about my rights as the poster GumpBrave but more of the rights of any poster of a community like this. You incorrectly construed that to me talking about my rights and how important I am. You said I need to “get over myself” when everything I said seemed to go over your head.
You were ignorant in basing your first post on something that is absolutely not factual and in doing so in fact implied that I was trying to deceive everyone here by pretending to post the Scarlett Johannson picture and not the evil .gifs. That was pretty false. Again, I like the part where you imply that I was lying about which one I posted.
Also, you talk about how I am a cancer on this community because of my newfangled talk about freedom of speech, creating a problem that previously didnt exist. Meanwhile, the adults on the forum took it as an intellectual discussion rather than an opportunity to make incorrect statements that either had undertones of animosity or lacked any sort of point.
Plus, you ended the quote “Basically, get over yourself” implying that the first part of your ill-constructed post was leading to this point. So your post that was filled with factual errors and ignorance (note I say ignorance because not only were you completely wrong, not only did you call me a liar of sorts, but you didn’t even bother to check these things when it was pretty easy to do) was all leading to “get over yourself.”
You are right you didn’t go off and call me names or resort to personal attacks (even though you definitely implied that the one picture I posted might be proof of me being unable to interact with any real girls because, as you said, I don’t think the “nice thing to do is important” when what I actually said was that it doesn’t outweigh our right to express ourself freely and has no real bearing on this discussion.
Also, speaking of “getting over yourself” you posted what you intended as a retaliatory picture that no one on this thread was offended by despite that it is almost the same thing as any pictures that you seemed to have a problem with. Perhaps my perspective isn’t the flawed one?
Perhaps it is, though.
Obviously you feel that typing long paragraphs repeating the same things you’ve said before makes you right. It’s pretty amazing to me that you keep saying I called you a “cancer” when that’s not even a phrase or concept I ever use or even think. It it makes you feel better or smarter to think your writings are “over my head” and that I’m not capable of debating or interacting on your level, then feel free to continue thinking that, because nothing I say will disabuse you of that notion.
I shall retire now. Good evening.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Thats a good decision. Your defense had gotten to where you were criticizing the form of my responses. That isn’t good in terms of cogent argumentation.
Funny thing, all of those words mean something. When put into sentences they mean even more.
Perhaps I keep repeating myself because a contextual is so hard to find from you.
And you definitely implied I was having a negative effect on the community in your own special and impact-less way,
Another thing that seems sort of interesting is that all of a sudden, this is a problem, when its not been one for years and years, because until you came along, no one seemed to feel that their "right to post what they want" trumped the concept of respecting all the members of the community. Actually, the only other time I can remember this coming up, a valued and longstanding female member of the community was very upset, and the poster was banned.
So, basically, get over yourself.
I especially like the bit “until you came along” the point is either you meant nothing (a perfectly reasonable solution if you read some of your posts) or you meant that I was negatively impacting the community. Plus I should get over myself.
The fact is that no one else seems to share your sentiments which were based on misinformation and a lack of involvement in the discussion.
Wrong again,when did gondee ever single those specific pictures or .gifs as inappropriate. He didnt. Keep in mind a moderator posted the first one and I imagine a few mods were on hand and saw the pictures. Yet they remained up. My original one didn’t because it had no title. That was the only reason it was deleted in the first place.
You are trying to read into his thoughts and feelings when we have evidence (by the continued existence of these pictures and gifs in the thread) that obviously this isn’t an ideological problem for him.
Really sddbaker? He left them up so that we could see what not to do? You think he didYour defense is getting pre
As I said...
he is perfectly capable of saying/ doing exactly what he thinks / wants to do, and I’m sure he will. I’m not claiming to know what he’s thinking, I can only state what he actually wrote. I’ll leave it up to you to draw conclusions instead. I said “maybe” that’s why he left the pictures. You, on the other hand, seem perfectly sure of your ability to state conclusively his thoughts and intentions.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Again, you miss the key arguments and I think I know why.
Where did he ever specifically say they were inappropriate (those specific pictures) as you claimed above. You say you can only say what he wrote. Well what did he write on those pictures because I didn’t see it but I do see them in existence even as we finish flooding the thread with this issue. Perhaps his non-action is all that you need to know (as I’ve been trying to say all along)
Since neither of us are capable of seeing into his mind and divining his thoughts then why don’t we look at actions. He did not delete these pictures and neither did any of the moderators. That inaction proves that it does not violate the rules of TC. I don’t have to know his thoughts to see that the pictures aren’t deleted. But I did like your theory that he left them up as a completely un-noted example of what not to do.
Don’t say I don’t respond to your arguments. Because while you throw mine out the window I respond pretty thoroughly to your responses.
For the record, the .gif of the animated headless swinging big boobs was removed.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
Headless?
You can’t recognize Katy Perry’s boobs by sight? What’s the point of seeing her head after that? Maybe I’ve just seen that stupid elmo-shirted gif too many times.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Trust me, these were a different pair.
My description of them above:
But, I think even the most ardent fan of big tits had to wonder if the pair swinging like a pair of bull testicles in a rodeo that someone posted the other day wasn’t a bit much.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
I'll take your word for it...
the elmo shirt makes hers from SNL pretty obvious.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Oh, and since I missed it, I should add...
pictures, or gtfo.
(thankfully, you’re one of the few I don’t have to put this in sarcasm font for the sarcasm to be seen).
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Good post.
If someone finds something offensive on this site, I don’t think there is anything wrong with saying, “I find that offensive.” It’s someone’s opinion. She didn’t demand that the whole damn site be shut down and throw a major fit about it. So this is all craziness.
Chicks dig the long ball.
DOB: Did you ever hit balls as hard as Jason Heyward does?
Chipper: Is that possible?
by kimrob1 on Apr 20, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This was a good discussion thread
Then GumpBrave happened. Ugh.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
Now that really is a personal attack...
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
albeit, one with merit.
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 20, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I got kind of caught up in a discussion with Duwanis. Didn’t mean to ruin the thread, but in my defense we were having a bit of a back and forth.
as much as i love TWSS moments, I’m not sure that one makes any sense.
"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."
Dwight Schrute
Braves suck?
/banned
GSO
"I'd rather jerk off a tiger in a phone booth than draft Cam"
-Mel Kiper, Jr.
you guys are like a bunch of pirahnas
by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT
This place is a more lenient than other major SBN blogs IMO
But it is all in good fun. Some people just take it too far
GSO
"I'd rather jerk off a tiger in a phone booth than draft Cam"
-Mel Kiper, Jr.
you guys are like a bunch of pirahnas
by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT
this was a fun thread
kinda like War & Peace, Talking Chop style.
A baseball diamond is, most simply, the intersecting of four 90-foot baselines, and, most powerfully, the intersecting of seemingly random lives.
Nice start.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
by NCChopper on Apr 20, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 13 recs
Utter fail. I have OT open at the same time. HeHeHe
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
Hahahah! Rec’d!
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 20, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the TC Love :-)
I haven’t been “greened” in a while.
Not to self: I really should not multi-task during a game.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West
I agree.
I’ve missed damn near the entire game doing exactly that.
Nomadic baseball fan, with no agenda other than observation/conversation/mass confusion/mass consumption.
Prosecutor: "Jesus Christ, did ANYBODY tell the truth to the grand jury?"
Barry Bonds: "I did."
Prosecutor: "GAH!"
by victor frankenstein on Apr 27, 2011 5:41 AM EDT up reply actions
LOLZ
I ♥ U :D
Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career
by Jareth Cutestory on Apr 20, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Green it up!
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 20, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
This is all your fault. You got me interested in what that crazy guy was saying, and look what happened.
Hahahah. Awesome!
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 20, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we should do this more often. Just randomly mention an opposing ball player’s failure in another thread. I approve.
Striking a Balance Between Tolerance and Responsbility
I think that this post is a very good idea. That said, I have stopped posting more than a year ago because I was given a warning—a warning simply because I criticized something in an article which someone posted. I was not being critical of the poster—but I think that moderators interpreted as such.
Subsequently, I witnessed over the last year a great deal of things which probably should have been censured. Obviously, the way to deal with it is to simply scroll and keep reading.
My point is that TC is a great site, but it needs to be broad minded and tolerant about what gets posted. There is a fine line between responsbility and over zealous moderating.
Good Luck and Keep Up the Good Work!
by Stephen in the UAE on Apr 22, 2011 3:30 PM EDT reply actions
So it seems the foolishness of last year has not entirely been forgotten.
Come on folks. It’s April. This team WILL BE FINE
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
So after perusing the game thread a few minutes ago...
I wish this post had been more effective :(
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
What was erected there?
I rec Ted
I wouldn’t have lasted a month here.
Nomadic baseball fan, with no agenda other than observation/conversation/mass confusion/mass consumption.
Prosecutor: "Jesus Christ, did ANYBODY tell the truth to the grand jury?"
Barry Bonds: "I did."
Prosecutor: "GAH!"
by victor frankenstein on Apr 25, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
umm...what?
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
That's a less common response than I usually get.
Most of the time it’s
Which is only fitting.
Dog, to attempt to explain my comment in which I ask what was on the game thread/pay tribute to the Hon. Ted Turner and his stadium namesake and follow it up with an assessment of how my own lackwit commentary skills would fare on TC would no doubt be as confounding as my initial offering. Best that I don’t.
Nomadic baseball fan, with no agenda other than observation/conversation/mass confusion/mass consumption.
Prosecutor: "Jesus Christ, did ANYBODY tell the truth to the grand jury?"
Barry Bonds: "I did."
Prosecutor: "GAH!"
by victor frankenstein on Apr 25, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
umm...what?
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Apr 25, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Translation:
“I was asking what happened in the game thread, and then attempted to make a pun with the word ‘erected’ that involved Ted Turner. I’m supposing, however, that any explanation of this would be just as confusing as the joke apparently was, so I won’t bother.”
THE NL WEST WILL NAIL YOU IN THE RUSTY GROIN WITH SOMETHING --TheLetter2
www.duwanis.com
what?
Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
www.duwanis.com
Um, what? yep.
Nomadic baseball fan, with no agenda other than observation/conversation/mass confusion/mass consumption.
Prosecutor: "Jesus Christ, did ANYBODY tell the truth to the grand jury?"
Barry Bonds: "I did."
Prosecutor: "GAH!"
by victor frankenstein on Apr 27, 2011 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions
You originally annoyed me.
But I kinda like you now.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
/debits checkbook balance
Nomadic baseball fan, with no agenda other than observation/conversation/mass confusion/mass consumption.
Prosecutor: "Jesus Christ, did ANYBODY tell the truth to the grand jury?"
Barry Bonds: "I did."
Prosecutor: "GAH!"
by victor frankenstein on Apr 27, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW
This FanPost does not express the views or opinions of Talking Chop.
I just think it’s funny that this is on this post :)
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
Notes From The SBNational Frankentour:
I understand the need for a modicum of decorum, but this is the most reprimanding
site I know of. Most just post the general Rules/Regs and cruise along contentedly. Then again, many are not as trafficked as TC.
Yes, I’m quite aware it’s a small sample size. No need to get personal, yo.
(That’s my self deprecating humor, for all you “What is this I don’t even” types.)
Nomadic baseball fan, with no agenda other than observation/conversation/mass confusion/mass consumption.
Prosecutor: "Jesus Christ, did ANYBODY tell the truth to the grand jury?"
Barry Bonds: "I did."
Prosecutor: "GAH!"
by victor frankenstein on May 1, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions
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