Braves Sweep Doubleheader With The Mets
Saturday was a tale of two games: one of dingers and one of small ball and singles.
The last time the Braves had swept a doubleheader was 2008, also against the Mets, and they were more than happy to do it again.
Game 1: Braves 4, Mets 2
After not receiving any run support in his previous two starts, Derek Lowe was finally rewarded with some in the first game of the doubleheader. With two outs in the first inning, Chipper Jones smacked his 438th career home run, one of four in the game for the Braves, to left field off starter D.J. Carrasco. Freddie Freeman obliged with a homer of his own in the sixth: when reliever Pat Misch buzzed him inside with some chin music, Freeman responded by blasting the next pitch into the right field seats for his first round-tripper of the season.
The hitting hero of the game, however, was Alex Gonzalez. He led off the second inning with a home run and added a second one with two outs in the fourth. This was Gonzalez's ninth career multi-home run game and his first with the Braves. His 2 for 4 day raised his average to .255.
Lowe scattered five hits over his six innings and kept the Mets off the scoreboard until the fifth. Following singles by Josh Thole and Scott Hairston to put runners at first and third with no outs, Jose Reyes reached base when Dan Uggla tried to turn a double play, allowing Thole to score the first Mets run. The Mets scored their second run one inning later: Carlos Beltran walked with one out and scored when Martin Prado misplayed a Willie Harris double.
The bullpen took care of the rest with Craig Kimbrel tossing an easy ninth inning for his fourth save of the season.
Game 2: Braves 4, Mets 0
Jair Jurrjens couldn't have pitched much better than he did in the second game. Jurrjens pitched masterfully in handing the Mets their seventh straight loss, facing the minimum through five innings and allowing only two hits in his seven innings of work to accompany four strikeouts.
Meanwhile, the Braves offense singled Mike Pelfrey to death. They tacked on their first run with two outs in the first: Chipper Jones and Eric Hinske both singled and Dan Uggla drove Chipper home with a single to right.
The Braves added to Pelfrey's misery by playing some small ball in the third. Martin Prado led off with a single and advanced to second on Nate McLouth's sacrifice bunt. Prado then stole third without a throw and scored on a Chipper Jones single. The Braves added a run in the fifth when Prado doubled with one out and scored on an Eric Hinske single.
Their final run came in the sixth. Following consecutive singles by Jason Heyward and Alex Gonzalez, David Ross dropped a single into center to score Heyward from third.
Of Atlanta's 11 hits, 10 were singles. George Sherrill and Scott Linebrink each pitched a perfect inning of relief.
The Braves go for the series sweep on Sunday. Tommy Hanson pitches for the Braves, Dillon Gee for the Mets.
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I am of the honest opinion
that Fredi is just giving everybody the middle finger now with Hinske batting in front of Heyward
I really think
He favors going L-R-L, etc. over the overall batting order
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by HansonManCrush on Apr 17, 2011 9:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
very nice, get 2 solid and different wins
Mets 0-2 in one day
interesting stat
Braves has scored 6 runs while Lowe was pitching in the game.
5 solo shots
Heyward
Chipper
Freeman
2 Gonzo
and a RBI single by McCann.
No real complaints with anything today besides the usual stuff.
That’s tough to do when you play 18 innings. Lowe, Jurrjens, and the entire bullpen were great and Freeman is really starting to drive the ball. If we can get Uggla going, we could start to do some serious damage.
Chipper is getting the day off tomorrow and I’m guessing Prado moves to 3rd and Matty Young starts in left field. The little guy can play some defense.
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Probably true, but I feel like even though it fubars the defense, Hinske should really be starting in left if Prado sliders over to third.
by Ivan the Great on Apr 16, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d also like to see Hinske get some more at-bats especially after hitting well tonight, but we have to remember that McLouth is in center and he needs some help. Young covers a ton of ground out there.
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by Scott Coleman on Apr 16, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, damn the whole defense/offense tradeoff. Just put Heyward in everywhere.
by Ivan the Great on Apr 16, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Something that’s being forgotten….Jason is in a sophomore slump right now, hitting .217.
Heyward lines a shot off the back of Collin Ballester, the Nats' pitcher and into left center field. The hit was so brutal, even Heyward could feel the vibration coming back at him.
Maybe I am overthinking this a lil bit...
Do any you all think it’s possible that having Nate behind Marteeny is keeping him from seeing as many good pitches? Making him press a lil? What about J-Hey? With Gonzo coming up next why give him anything to hit? However, with Freddie behind Gonzo why not see if Gonzo will beat you before you face Freddie? I dunno? I really hate to be trying to start a lineup conversation as I have really done well at staying out of all that but…..Any thoughts? Please someone tell me I’m just fishin’ and need to stop! Great wins today guys!
FYI: If any of you haven’t tried this on Fox games, after the J-Hey/Davis comparison today I muted it……SOOOOOO much better!!!!!!!!!
http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2004/09/the-protection-externality-it-doesnt-exist/
by Ivan the Great on Apr 16, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
First off let me qualify this by saying I believe in most sabernomics theories
that being said. This article, or study, misses the 800 lb pink Gorilla in the room. The theory of protection is not about the protectee’s average, but about the prevention of crippling a “rally”. I could give two shits what it means to Heywards individual stats because while I am a fan of Jason Heyward I am a greater fan of the Braves.
While I agree with the article that the protectee’s average, OBP, SLG may not be significantly affected over and entire season with protection, the teams win loss column will. Here is why: many games over an entire season are one run affairs which are decided in a key inning. For example lets say the Braves and Philies are tied 3-3 in the bottom of the 9th, and there are two outs and runners at 2b and 3b, Jason Heyward steps to the plate and A-gon is scheduled to hit behind him. Knowing the potential of these two hitters, why on Gods green earth would a pitcher choose to throw anything in the strike zone to Jason Heyward when the next hitter is far less likely to get a hit than Heyward is.
This situation (whether in the 9th inning or not) happens many times over a season and thus a great hitter with a poor hitter behind him is far less likely to be able to maximize his potential and thus win games in crucial at bats.
I read the article. I understand the theory. It misses the point.
I am not concerned with an individual’s stats as I am by the ability of my team to win games. The team’s ability to maximize its winning potential is greatly depreciated when opposing pitchers can choose to walk its greatest hitter in key situations to pitch to a less dangerous hitter.
by Santaklose11 on Apr 17, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Sabernomics doesn’t have theories, it’s a website.
Twitter: @Ben_Duronio Stop calling Tommy Hanson "Big Red"
There are tons of articles discussing why players don’t see more fastballs hitting in front of good hitters. When you really think about it, it doesn’t make much sense anyway.
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Roger that....I know
all the facts and articles and proof that exists….it just seems to me that they don’t get anything to hit when watching the games….probably just my mind trying to conjure up something since I don’t like the lineup.
There are many reasons why Jason shouldnt be hitting 6th
I would not argue lack of protection is one of them tho
I know what you are sayin' Jonesy..
even with today though, the second lineup really wasn’t good. Ske made him look good by catching fire today though. Just my opinion though.
I agree the lineup is trash
But FG is fixed on keeping Heyward 6th so no more bitching from me
I agree with you.
While I value sabermetrics, they aren’t perfect for explaining every, single occurrence in baseball. Sometimes I feel some major proponents of advanced stats close off all other explanations or opinions of baseball by throwing stats and stats at people, and some act as if the less stat-savvy are flat out wrong/ignorant (not calling anyone out in particular).
I get it. The stats merely quantify the play actually happening on the field; however, they provide a good explanation, but they are not perfect. Plus, in my opinion, they are a great tool for looking at situations on the average, but are not good at explaining certain random events that take place in a game.
Thus, as you and others above state, I don’t care if Heyward (or anyone else) over the course of the season will have a similar OBP, SLG, etc. with Pujols behind him v. Corky Miller—in clutch situations, he is definitely hurt by having a bad player behind him v. a good player. He may see similar pitches in the 3rd inning, but in the 9th if the Braves are down 1 with two outs and no one on, Heyward is more likely to get walked with Gonzo behind him than Chipper. He just is. Does sabermetrics have a stat for late inning situations like this or do the stats only compile the pitches Heyward sees in the early innings and late innings combined regardless of score?
Plus, one can’t quantify the mindset of the pitcher who knows that he be more careful with Heyward with a worse batter behind him. Heyward will be less likely to see good pitches, and the pitcher may be better able to paint the corners since he doesn’t care if a walk occurs.
That said, the argument I’ve heard is that if Heyward is moved up, then someone else will have to deal with Nate of McLouth behind them (i.e. if Heyward is moved to 2nd, then it’s Uggla who suffers instead of Heyward…the net effect is a wash).
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Exactly
Stats are great, but they aren’t everything. Look at last year: the Giants won the WS, yet I’m sure stats would have predicted (and maybe even retrospectively shown) a much different result. I’m not saying that stats aren’t useful; in fact, they are vital in understanding the game. But all decisions should not based solely on statistics.
I certainly wil say that the stats guys on TC have taught me a lot about baseball through statistical analysis.
Heyward is definitely hurt by where he is in the batting order. But as you said, it’s either him or someone else. The truth is that we all really want Heyward to succeed and not be the one who suffers. I truly believe that Heyward will deliver in clutch situations, so I would like him to see good pitches in those situations.
I am sorry, but protectionism ABSOLUTELY exists
just ask yourself this question. With two outs and a man on third who would you rather pitch to: Jason Heyward or Alex Gonzalez.
However, simply directly walking Heyward gives him a completely free pass, so why not pitch to him out of the zone. If he chases and causes an out, great; if he does not and walks that is fine.
it does exist, but only has a minimal effect, most pitchers are going to pitch to Jason Heyward the same way no matter what, yes they might go for the ol’ unintentional-intentional walk every now and then but this will only slightly hurt Heywards average.
but they are more likely to do this in close games and in tense situations. Thus it is not about Heyward’s average, it is about wasting his potential to cause damage in tight situations, which in turn affects our win-loss column. If Heyward has (a normal) Uggla, or McCann hitting after him the pitcher has to ‘pick his poison’.
This situation does not occur frequently but when it does it can be quite consequential.
by Santaklose11 on Apr 16, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Today was a great day of baseball. Lowe pitched good and we showed lots of POWAH. Then, JJ pitched great and we were able to give him some run support. The bullpen was fantastic, BUT SHERRILL AND LINEBROKE STINK. Anyways, let’s get the sweep tomorrow
I think maybe you are kidding about the Sherrill and Linkbrink sucking, they did go 2 IP with 0H 0BB and 5K closing out the second game.
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
by bbxxj on Apr 17, 2011 12:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Isn’t it obvious that they both suck after two weeks of baseball? A little bit more than two weeks of baseball is more than enough time to prove yourself. In fact, I’m starting to get worried about Heyward.
Me too.
Let’s trade him for Edward Encarnacion as soon as possible.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
by frozendesert on Apr 17, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
So the first game was pretty cool.
Except for the whole “not having runners on when you hit the homers” thing. Lowe pitched well, we had some good patience, and we hit a pitcher (Carrasco) who we should have hit. A good effort all around.
I didn’t see the second game, but dayum, JJ, way to come back to the majors. I know it’s just the Mets, but 7 shutout innings is pretty fierce. And Sherrill and Linebrink pitching 2 perfect innings with 5 K’s? Am I reading that boxscore right? If I’m not mistaken, we faced only 1 batter over the minimum the whole game. Great to see Hinske get the bat going, too.
See, I told you guys. All we needed to get going was a little dose of Mets.
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by Jacob Peterson on Apr 17, 2011 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
Two over the minimum, but that’s only because we struck out Reyes and he reached on a drop third strike.
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I know it’s early in the season, and my expectations were low coming into the season, but wow, Uggla is looking great in the field (considering it’s Uggla). Course, that’s just my eye.
Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.
you guys
have to realize that uggla only looks great in the field because he has to go to great efforts to make plays that normal second basemen dont have to work so hard for. for example, a handful of the balls that hes dove for, prado would be all over while still on his feet.
that said. hes hustlin and i like it.
He’s been below average in comparison to the league so far. I’ve been impressed with his hands and his athleticism, but he has limited range and will always suffer because of it.
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Based on what?
How is range quantified?
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by Jman781 on Apr 17, 2011 7:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd like to know too
Just using Johnny Eyeball I’ve been impressed with Uggla’s range. Moving to his left he beat Freeman to a pop up in foul territory, moving to his right he’s been knocking down balls nearly behind 2B, he’s made diving catches over his shoulder in right center field. Every game, at some point, I’ve said to myself, “range… Uggla’s got it”.
I honestly don’t give a rat’s ass if a stat say’s he has poor range. He covers a lot of ground either getting a batter out or holding a possible extra base hit to a single.
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If I recall correctly...
Pacgnosis did an entertaining and in depth series on Uggla’s defense. One thing I took away (among other things), many of his errors (I know errors are only a portion of rating a fielder’s ability) were on throws, not boots.
Thus, Freeman will be a Godsend for Uggla. Freeman has been amazing so far (based purely on my Johnny Eyeball) at picking wild throws from Uggla and Gonzo.
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Absolutely, Freeman hasn’t gotten 3 throws to him all season he hasn’t had to dig or stretch for. He’s been a workin’ man. The Vet’s, Uggla, Gonzo and Chipper have put the Rookie through to the test. And the Rookie lots pretty darn good.
I saw a breakdown of Uggla’s errors, probably the Pacg piece you referenced, seems like he had WAY more throwing errors than fielding.
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I believe range is quantified by plotting where balls are hit, and comparing how many balls the fielder in question gets to versus the balls that an average fielder at that position would get to.
This isn’t without its own issues, and I’m not sure if the stats compensate for various defensive shifts. I also don’t know much about defensive metrics as is, so that could be totally wrong. But if it is totally wrong, that’s at least how I’d expect it to be quantified, so it would be weird that no one else had thought of that yet.
by Ivan the Great on Apr 17, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
While UZR shouldn’t ever be used with small sample sizes, his years of playing second base allows UZR to give us a good idea of his range. Obviously, it’s been below average and is likely still below average. However, he’s making the plays he gets to, and that is about all we can ask of him. So the media can praise his glove work, but the informed fan should know that he is still, in all likelihood, a below average defender.
by granman29 on Apr 17, 2011 10:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
Unfortunately, even when you look great in the field, it’s because of your ‘poor range.’ The are a lot of half-empty folks out there, I tell you.
Ha.
I know. Can’t we just be happy and excited with Uggla without poo-pooing it with stats and ratings?
There hasn’t been one game (so far) that I can point to and say that Uggla’s fielding cost us the game…
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Of course not
the only reason we’ve lost games at all so far this season is because of the batting order. ;)
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Great day for baseball!
now its time to sit back, get a lotta drunk and watch Tangled with the roommates. ironically im pretty sure the second part is not possible without the first, so wish me luck!
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Great to sweep a DH and break the losing streak
too bad we don’t play the Mets everyday…now we can get back to .500 with a W on Sunday
by LEastCoastBears on Apr 17, 2011 3:05 AM EDT reply actions
Gonzalez
At least Gonzalez gets a day off from criticism. I realize the guy doesn’t put up consistently great numbers, but I hope his critics give him a little credit. Who cares about the small sample size? He was instrumental in winning a big game for us.
WAHOO
Heyward batting 2nd Sunday!
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