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Braves Announce Opening Day Roster

Brooks Conrad's bat could be a valuable asset off the bench to Fredi Gonzalez this season.

The Atlanta Braves have released their 25-man roster for the upcoming season. There were reports that the final set of roster cuts wouldn't be made until next Wednesday, but it appears as if the Braves and Fredi Gonzalez are eager to get things underway. Here's a look at some of the decisions made today:

The Bench:

There were three spots open, and they will be occupied by Brooks Conrad, Brandon Hicks, and Matt Young. Conrad will (or at least should) only be used as a pinch-hitter in the latter innings, and he thrived in that role last season. Brandon Hicks, who might just be the best pinch-runner in baseball, will be the primary defensive option off the bench and is capable of playing all around the infield. And little Matt Young will finally get his chance in Atlanta after years of perseverance in the system. You just have to root for a guy like that.

The Bullpen:

Cristhian Martinez will be the final man in the Braves 'pen to start the season. The team released Scott Proctor after two injury plagued and unimpressive seasons. This is the right move. Martinez has above-average stuff and is a capable long-man should a starter have to leave early. Good work Fredi.

Joe Mather Placed on Waivers:

Well that didn't take long, and now we know why the Braves had been searching for a right-handed bench player to complement Eric Hinske. Mather was very unimpressive at the plate this Spring, and he's not much of a fielder. He'll probably get picked up by another team by the end of the week.

Jair Jurrjens Update:

The club will wait and monitor Jurrjens' progress over the next few days before deciding if he'll need to start the season on the disabled list. If he's ready to go, he'll start the sixth game of the season in Milwaukee. If he has to miss time, the team will likely call-up Mike Minor to make a start or two.

Star-divide

After all of today's cuts, this is your first 25-man Braves roster of the season.

Catcher - Brian McCann
First Base - Freddie Freeman
Second Base - Dan Uggla
Third Base - Chipper Jones
Shortstop - Alex Gonzalez
Outfield - Martin Prado, Nate McLouth, Jason Heyward
Bench - Brooks Conrad, Brandon Hicks, Eric Hinske, David Ross, Matt Young

Starting Pitchers - Tim Hudson, Tommy Hanson, Derek Lowe, Jair Jurrjens, Brandon Beachy
Relief Pitchers - Craig Kimbrel, Jonny Venters, Peter Moylan, Eric O'Flaherty, Scott Linebrink, George Sherrill, Cristhian Martinez

That looks pretty damn good. Let's make 2011 a season to remember.

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I'm happy for Matt Young....

….but Conrad AND Hicks over Lucas? Really?

P.S. YAY FOR GETTING RID OF PROCTOR!!

"Never doubt Derek Lowe's ability to win despite himself."

by EricGreggWasPaidOff on Mar 27, 2011 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Proctor reminds me of jesse chavez

by sepulcher on Mar 27, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Salary Relief Proctor” doesn’t have the same ring to it.

"Life is a lot like a baseball game- you want your team to win, you want it to be a thriller, you don't want it to be called short on account of nature, and you wouldn't mind if it went into extra innings." -Dante Shepherd, survivingtheworld.net

by J-Freak on Mar 27, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really happy for Young

Hope he does as well as he has in the minors, he’s a lot of fun to watch. Should get decent playing time too.

"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G

by bighop on Mar 27, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. They opted for the somewhat proven switch-hitting, clutch power bat of Conrad and the enhanced defense and speed and maybe better long-term upside of Hicks, over the versatility and maybe somewhat better BA and OBP of Lucas – who likely will be first in line for promotion.

by fandave on Mar 27, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we please stop with this?

“clutch power bat”

Conrad performed in some clutch situations with the bat last year. That does not make him a clutch player by any means as there is no such thing. His career numbers are the expected MLE’s of a guy who hit .261 in AAA. Expect his career line (.231/.296/.445, 98 OPS+), and be surprised if he gives you a hot streak that he had last season ever again. Even with his numbers for a short time, his 2010 line was .250/.324/.487 with a K rate similar to Ryan Howard’s in 2010. I’m glad for what Conrad did for the team in 2010, but this is now 2011. Do we all want Keith Lockhart back because he had some nice moments? Or do we realize that Keith wasn’t a “clutch player” once he got more exposure and showed his true self after he got beyond SSS?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 27, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

My brother.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 27, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keith Lockhart and Brooks Conrad – Love them for what they did, but don’t expect it. Either way, they’ll always have a special place in a baseball fan’s heart for “those” moments.

Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.

by award6 on Mar 27, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get me Keith back and we win the World Series

"If you were going to make a Mount Rushmore of managers, Bobby's one of them."
-Mike Scioscia

by The Keith Lockhart Era on Mar 28, 2011 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

too bad we never won one with kool keith in the fold.

by get swoll yunel on Mar 28, 2011 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forget this "clutch" stuff.

The real reason is that all of the candidates for the last bench spot have flaws. Conrad offers a decent power track record, and the Braves would like some power on their bench. So long as he never takes the field except in blowouts, this is a totally reasonable personnel decision.

by SS451 on Mar 28, 2011 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

This I can agree with

I don’t have a problem with adding the power bat over another speed and glove guy, but to try to sell the decision as it’s because the guy is “clutch” or a “proven pinch hitter” is just not correct at all, and is easily disproven statistically.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 28, 2011 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll sign this petition.

LIVE EDT

Tape-delayed for the West Coast

by TheLetter2 on Mar 28, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take up your analysis with Fredi and Frank. It would seem they disagree.

by fandave on Mar 27, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is probably the answer I hate the most in these discussions.

It’s obvious that Wren disagrees, just like it was obvious that he would prefer to have Gonzalez over Escobar. That doesn’t mean he is right or that we are wrong.

Telling someone to take their analysis up with the decision makers is borderline trolling.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 27, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

For someone who consistently shit stirs and promotes meaningless conflict and arguments for reasons defying rationality, I suspose its a rare honor to be accused of borderline trolling. On the other hand, screw you.

And please don’t bother to even consider my initial response in the context of a response to EricGreggWasPaidOff that obviously on its face responded from the objective vantage point of the Braves’ braintrust, which happens to have obviously been 100% accurate; and that I have not actually stated an opinion one way or the other on the Conrad issue.

by fandave on Mar 27, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you read this post backwards it still makes sense. bravo.

THIS IS BRAVES COUNTRY.

by BMacAttack on Mar 27, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reasons defying rationality? Please show me one example of an irrational argument that I have ever made, or better yet, one example of an argument that I have ever made without any sort of data to back it up.

Stay classy.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 28, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can not do it. Certainly not without more in depth time and effort than I can devote it today.

Of course, however, you are missing my point, and I would expect deliberately so.

Here again is the point: Being indignantly, self-righteously confrontational and incessantly engaging in and promoting what I would might call shitstorms of attrition – even over seemingly rational positions – is irrational, that is, inappropriate, unnecessary and unproductive, at least as far as I’m personally concerned and in my opinion.

But since you obviously enjoy it, by all means, have at it.

Good times.

Actually, this little episode is an example. You say: “That doesn’t mean he is right or that we are wrong.” The fact is that the decision to either put Conrad on or leave him off the 25 man roster is neither right nor wrong. It is very simply a judgment call and a matter of opinion. You and Ben have one view and that matters and counts a whole hell of a lot to you, and you can defend it and articulate what you consider excellent reasons (even sabermetrical analysis!!!) supporting it ‘til the cows come home – but that don’t make it neccesarily “right.” Particularly not in the prospective sense of will it pan out, will Conrad in reality help our team win more games than, say, Lucas might, everything else being equal. Its still just an opinion.

Note also that although Fredi and Frank have the ultimate responsibility to make the decison and – as BMacAttack accurately pointed out – have the capacity to consider a broader range of considerations in coming to a final decsion than any of us non-insider, non-professional baseball people ever could have, none of that makes their decison necessarily “right” either.

Instead, it is also just a judgment call and a matter of opinion.

by fandave on Mar 28, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You told an internet blogger to take up their complaint with the GM of a major league baseball team – and yet, I am the irrational one?

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 29, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

agree, but there is more value to this point than ‘borderline trolling’: fredi and frank get to see these guys in the clubhouse, in the weight room, in BP, drills, practice, stretching, warm-up, dugout, bus rides, film room, etc.

so, while we can analyze the game results, that’s just a piece of the equation— an important piece— but not the whole picture. we’re making judgment calls on who should play based on what’s happening on the field only—> this is equivalent to filling out your March Madness bracket based on records and court statistics… valid but sure doesn’t put VCU or Butler in the final four.

in all fairness though…the appeal to authority “argument” is more of a perspective reminder for us fans than a legitimate zing post as fandave went for here…

love you, justin

THIS IS BRAVES COUNTRY.

by BMacAttack on Mar 27, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

my assumption, right or wrong, based on extensive past history, that if Justin is replying to me it is intended as pointedly direct and personal.

by fandave on Mar 27, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like clauses that make you think, whether or not this is true for everyone, also frozen yogurt, in such that i end up winning rather than losing as that is what is primarily important.

all nonsense aside, we could just settle this with a game of ‘words with friends’

THIS IS BRAVES COUNTRY.

by BMacAttack on Mar 27, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it anything like the ’let’s just step outside, buddy, and we talk about it" game?

by fandave on Mar 27, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personal? Wow. Someone needs to just relax.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 28, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Appeal to authority! yay!

Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.

by award6 on Mar 27, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not exactly

It would seem that they feel Brooks’ switch-hitting power bat provides some advantages with a bench that otherwise would be more slap-hitting happy than homer-happy. I don’t necessarily disagree with this. I’ve not heard them state that the purpose for placing Brooks on the team is his “clutch bat,” and neither should we.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 28, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eric Hinske and David Ross

With Hinske’s 11 dingerz last year and higher slugging percentage than Brian McCann, I think the bench already has one decent power hitter from the left. With Ross having a higher slugging percentage than McCann and punching from the right side I would not call our bench slap happy in the absence of Conrad.

While Conrad is a useful power switch hitter and a decent runner, I would have opted for Lucas because of his versatility. We already have a slugging lefty who can play 1B and LF and a slugging righty who plays C. Thus I would perceive our need to be a defensive 2B/SS with speed or high OBP and a defensive OF with speed or high OBP. Thus I think we would have done better with Lucas than with Conrad. However, Conrad did provide some great pop against MLB pitching last year. The problem is his defense just blows too much…I mean 5 errors in ST alone and 3 in one game in the playoffs. Thats just too much for me, but as stated above I do not see him everyday off of the field and I am not on the Braves payroll…

by Santaklose11 on Mar 28, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just described Hicks and Young. The fact is, Lucas didn’t die, he’ll be waiting in AAA waiting for the inevitable injury. Conrad is a fine 25th man to start the season as long as there’s someone ahead of him on the defensive depth chart at all times.

If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02

by king of games on Mar 29, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Why not Ed Lucas over Conrad & Hicks ??? Having Lucas would have I guess prevented the Braves from keeping Conrad and I guess since he did some great things for us a year ago the front office wants to give him one more chance to prove himself but still his defense is terrible and we have to carry Hicks to cover it ? Hicks has some pop in his bat but not near enough to be worthy of a bench spot lol. I kinda figured on Ed Lucas though but I have a feeling he will get the call before the end of the season, heck I would say he will get the call within the first couple of months unless Conrad has figured out his defensive shortcomings LOL YEAH RIGHT.

HURRAYY for dumping Scott Proctor the Atlanta Braves cannot save them all and Proctor is pretty much done as a pitcher in the MLB unless some team is just dying for a veteran with a nothing arm anymore. Proctor was way over used to early in his career which made him blow out his elbow and really his arm thanks Marlins & Dodgers. Still don’t we get salary relief for releasing Scott. Glad to see Matt Young finally get his shot with the big league club and J. Mather was given every opportunity but failed miserably at every turn I mean what was he batting .140 this spring or something ? Someone will claim him on waviers hey Pirates, Royals, Nationals lol plus no more Jayson Werth comparisons by the broadcast crew.

KK sucks it is pretty bad when the broadcasters are saying you are gone from your current MLB team, and congrats to C. Martinez even though he got roughed up today he did have a nice spring and does his Long Relief work nicely always liked the kid even when he was with the Marlins.

Look for N. Evans, C. Maybin type guys on the waiver wire if ATL can find a capable RH bench bat to par with Hinske then they will make a move. So either Hicks or Young may have a short stint with the big league club.

All in All I am happy with the roster and we are way ahead from where we were a year ago at this time from a offensive standpoint.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Mar 27, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some relief on Proctor.

We only hva to pay him for 45 days, or roughly 1/4 of $475,000. So we do get some measure of relief.

by DawgB on Mar 28, 2011 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I could make $187,500 for sucking at my job for a month.

If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02

by king of games on Mar 28, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This

hahahahahaha

"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.

by TurnerTheBurner on Mar 28, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hicks I can make a case for, but not Conrad.

Surprised but happy Young got it over Ramirez.

by Broccoman on Mar 27, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

you cant make a case for conrad?

did you just come back to baseball after missing last year?

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

With the way Conrad hit this spring, and his iron glove, I think Hicks and Lucas are more useful assets. Conrad’s success last year is SSS to me.

I’m not saying the guy doesn’t deserve a MLB spot. I’m just saying the 26th or 27th option at best right now, and you only get 25.

I’d even make a case for Ramirez.

by Broccoman on Mar 28, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just to get this straight...

Conrad’s 2010 is SSS, but Spring Training was a valuable piece of data that you can use to support your point of view??

FYI, there’s a major flaw in your thinking.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Mar 28, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah – he probably just missed June and July – since Conrad was pretty horrible after those two months.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 29, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

The stats are really easy to look up.

wOBA
April – .281
May – .439
June – .384
July – .220
August – .414
September – .300

by YakuzaFro on Mar 29, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying I want Brooks to fail, I want him to get his glove in a tolerable shape before coming back up. I think some time in AAA, playing every day, could help him out.

Yes I know he’s 31 and he’s never going to be good, but I want him to have some confidence back.

by Broccoman on Mar 29, 2011 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s a matter of confidence. He looked confident enough in ST, he’s just bad. He made some really great defensive plays and some absolutely horrendous plays over the last month. In the end, as long as Hicks/Lucas/Prado are ahead of him defensively, he should strictly be a PHer this year which will be fine.

If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02

by king of games on Mar 29, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right

They are pretty easy to look up – and I can look up more than just one stat.

Heck, I’ll post the slash stats for each month, which I believe tell more of a story, AND I will include the number of PAs which is probably an important thing to do when talking about how well a PH hits.

April – 9 PAs .222 .222 .444 .667
May – 29 PAs .250 .357 .667 1.024
June – 36 PAs .303 .324 .515 .839
July – 24 PAs .100 .217 .250 .467
August – 44 PAs .278 .409 .528 .937
Sept – 35 PAs .265 .286 .441 .727

So he had a better August than I thought – but a far worse July. I guess I just mixed the two months up.

Either way, he had 3 above average months, 1 slightly below average month and 2 terrible months.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 29, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. That’s how averages work.

by YakuzaFro on Mar 29, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

And then, you look at what you have at the end of it all, and it isn’t pretty.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 30, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

.810

Both sides.

That’s what you have at the end of it all.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Mar 31, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

lucas started strong

and i think they wanted him for the job, but he juts didnt hit well after the first couple weeks of camp

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

So glad

They cut proctor

"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann

by HansonManCrush on Mar 27, 2011 4:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Its weird how quickly he seemed to suck

I remember when he was one of the best bullpen arms in the game for a few years with the Yankees but Joe Torre ran him out there until his arm fell off. I just hope Bobby didn’t do that with Everyday Johnny…

"The Dos Equis guys want me to be the least interesting man in the world" - Drama

by BravesDawg16 on Mar 27, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hope Fredi doesnt continue one of Bobby's weaknesses

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Mar 27, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

who's to say Fredi won't do that as well?

Although, to be fair Johnny has more stamina than most late-inning guys. He could be converted to starter if we ever felt the need to.

"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.

by TurnerTheBurner on Mar 28, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Converted *back* to

if I recall correctly, Venters was a starter before coming up to the majors.

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 28, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes he was

"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.

by TurnerTheBurner on Mar 29, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Proctology: study of the anus, or of Scott Proctor. Same thing.

by frozendesert on Mar 27, 2011 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha, win.

"If you were going to make a Mount Rushmore of managers, Bobby's one of them."
-Mike Scioscia

by The Keith Lockhart Era on Mar 28, 2011 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who is the back up man for IB? Hinske or Prado?
Who is the back up man for RF? Young or Hinske?

by fandave on Mar 27, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

My opinion, backups

1B: Hinske
RF: Jason Heyward…. Heyward… Heyward…. Heyward… Young.
3B: Prado; then LF Hinske

by frozendesert on Mar 27, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking LF…Prado then Young then Hinske

"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G

by bighop on Mar 27, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Young is the better defender, Hinske the better bat, and they’re both lefties. Take your pick!

by frozendesert on Mar 27, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not being argumentative, but is Hinske really the better bat than Young? More power, absolutely. Better average and OB%, I think Young might have a chance of topping Hinske.

"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G

by bighop on Mar 28, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

especially if he can steal some bags and score from second

i think they come to bat in entirely different situations.

Early in an inning with no one on and less than two outs, I’d send up Young

with two outs and anyone on any bag but third, I’d call on Hinske (though if there was a runner on third and two outs, I would probably call in Young who is both more likely to be safe at first, not make an out, and get the hit needed for the run).

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d have a tough time projecting Matt Young to match the .340+ wOBA that Hinske has had each of the last three seasons.

by YakuzaFro on Mar 28, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

This

Hinske starts, Young is his defensive caddy.

Don't kiss an ass if it's in the process of shitting on you.

"…aren’t worthy enough to hold his (Pujols) ass cheeks apart while Playboy models wipe him with thousand dollar bills after he craps out the cure to whatever previously-incurable disease." by royhobbs 1/7/09

by buzzdeadwax on Mar 28, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that’s why they had Hinske play 3 or 4 innings in the OF all spring

"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G

by bighop on Mar 28, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that was more because Hinske didn’t need the reps to get familiar with the position mixed with the number of guys competing for that OF bench spot. I would agree Hinske is the 4th OFer for the corners.

If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02

by king of games on Mar 29, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont know about the first one

but young on the second one, first one could go either way but probably hinske

by austinhb on Mar 27, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

1B…Hinske then Conrad
RF…probably Hinske then Young

"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G

by bighop on Mar 27, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think any day Prado isn't playing LF or 3B

he’s taking a day off.

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 27, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prado? Day off? Not happening.

It’s MARTIN PRADO, baby.

by frozendesert on Mar 27, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

After the way last year ended

I hope they at least think about it.

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 27, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it will depend on matchup

if hinske is out in left it will be to get him some at bats to stay sharp
they will do this when one of our sinkerballers starts most likely (which would also be a good time to put prado in the infield)

i think we can expect fredi to mix and match on this one

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope the Braves still try to get another bench bat

Coner Jackson fit the bill of the RH bat to compliment Hinske.

by Jay212033 on Mar 27, 2011 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he’s in the can.

by frozendesert on Mar 27, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that's

Albert Belle

Melky was a fail, but that was Melky’s fault, or the fault of Atlanta for having awesome cheeseburgers and ribs.

by Broccoman on Feb 21, 2011 4:11 PM EST

by ROBravo on Mar 27, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alberto Gonzalez???

May opinion never overcome facts as well as sense and logic, but be there to show people what you think and feel in your mind and body.

by ChopMaster on Mar 27, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alberto del Riiiiiiiiiooo?

by CMassey on Mar 27, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Wait - Kelly Johnson hits lefties better than righties? That just HAS to be backwards. - Bobby Cox as he looks at KJ's splits for his career

by Jareth Cutestory on Mar 28, 2011 1:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

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by TonyAlmeyda on Mar 28, 2011 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or something

I’m just not too thrilled about our bench this year. Maybe I’m just spoiled from last year, where he had the swiss army knife on the bench, but here’s what we have:

1 great back-up Catcher. Unfortunately, he’ll be the least used man on the bench most likely, because the starting catcher is among the best in the game.

1 solid back-up 1B and corner outfielder. His defense isn’t good, but isn’t bad enough to really matter in his role. The bat definitely plays.

1 back-up infielder who can’t hit. (Hicks)

1 back-up infielder who can’t field (Conrad)

1 IF/OF utliity guy who might not do either especially well.

by Bronn on Mar 27, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

what kind of opening day fan are you?

you can say that later if it proves true, but right now the language goes:

hicks – one of the best gloves at short stop in the game, a premier defensive sub, + pinch runner, and a guy that’s learned how to avoid the strikeouts that have plagued his career.

Conrad – a guy that carried the heart and soul of this team last year, and many times the whole team on his back. He hit over 300 as a pinch hitter and in late and close situations. 8 homers off the bench is awesome, lets see what the raw dawg can do this year

young – an extremely fast guy who will finally bring some speed to the club, his on base percentage was like 380 in the minors and his ba was over 300, so we can expect a decent average and a comfortable on base percentage from a guy we will get on the base paths every chance we get—he is also a better defensive option in the outfield than we were looking to go with in Mather.

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

You really need to re-read your information on Conrad:

Season: .250/.324/.487, 8 HR, 9% walk rate, 25.4% K rate
as LHB: .242/.311/.500, 7 HR, 8%, 25%
as RHB: .278/.366/.444, 1 HR, 12%, 27%
as starter: .270/.350/.494, 4 HR, 9.8%, 23.5%
as sub: .224/.288/.478, 4 HR, 8%, 28%
as PH: .224/.262/.448, 3 HR, 4.8%, 31.7%

He did not hit anywhere near .300 as a pinch hitter. He did not hit 8 HR off the bench. He is a hacker when he pinch hits, walking at a rate that’d make Francoeur look patient and striking out at a rate that’d make Mark Reynolds embarassed. He hits for power, and he did have success last season in “late and close” situations, but his peripherals in those situations still indicate a hacker: 7.2% BB rate, 23.6% K rate, which is in line with all his other numbers and indicates he had a hot streak, not that his approach was any different in those situations to allow for any predictability in those situations in 2011.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 28, 2011 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are we really slicing up 177 plate appearances to make our arguments here? C’mon guys.

by YakuzaFro on Mar 28, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

So small sample size

only works when it supports your previously held assumptom?

Those 177 plate appearances are what people are basing arguments on one way or the other because that’s all there is to go on at the MLB level. The folks in support of Brooks don’t want to include his 2000+ at bats at the AAA level and the major league equivolent of those numbers because it would not support their point.

You can attempt to demean the statistics as small sample size, or accept that every one of those statistics I posted took me all of 3 seconds to find online already calculated for me, so to make the mistake of not knowing the numbers and making a number-based argument really hurts the rest of the content of the argument.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 28, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Logic only works

when it supports what I want to say. Obviously. Otherwise you’re wrong.

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 28, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to use his AAA stats...

Only one AAA season with a below league-average wOBA. He’s significantly above league-average in most seasons. Obviously, it has to scale up to MLB level, but even his career wOBA (still a SSS) is nearly league-average. For a bench player, that’s not too shabby.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Mar 28, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those triple A stats were mostly compiled as a repeater from ages 25-29, which is, ahem, slightly old for the league. I suppose I don’t mind him, but he’s far from a lefty masher, and was the beneficiary of a BaBIP last year thatI’d like to see him repeat before buying into the idea that he’s really capable of a 750ish OPS+ at the ML level. And defensively, with 3 other 2Bs and 3Bs on the team, it’s not like he’s especially useful there either. A true lefty masher/5th OF – like say, Andruw Jones – would be a big help to this team.

by Atlantaspike on Mar 28, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

His BABIP...

was .301 last season. That’s average, by all counts.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Mar 28, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s average for all major league hitters – which you are assuming Conrad is one of. I am unconvinced. There are many whose BaBIP is lower. And I tell you what, if his BaBIP drifts down more than an eyelash, his offense is going to be REALLY bad, since he can’t draw enough walks to get on base otherwise. I have nothing against the man, and cheered along with everyone else when he hit the ball last year. I honestly don’t think he can hit enough at this level to be of much value, and since his value is almost exclusively tied to his offense…well, you see where I am going .

by Atlantaspike on Mar 28, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I basically agree...

BABIP has been shown to be more sustainable (in either direction, for good or bad) than some other data. However, if he goes .300, he’s probably going to do about as well as last year.

Even if you look at his MLB career, which is essentially three differently-sized slices of pie to try to make sense of, he has a BABIP of .285 and a wOBA of .324. So, if he can manage a BABIP of .285, he should be right close to league-average, which I must remind you is pretty good for a bench player.

If he dips below that mark, rather than the .300 you cite, I think there’s some cause for worry. But that worry doesn’t really become statistically viable until the season’s over, because his sample size is still going to be so small. Even if he matches his plate appearances from a year ago, we’re only just reaching one full season’s worth of data. That is really the point where we can start calling any statistical data an indicator of anything important.

This is one reason why arguing about Conrad’s bat is really without merit, for either side of the coin. Despite all we say, there’s no evidence any of us can present as wholly relative and conclusive at this point. It’s just our opinion extrapolated by which statistical set we feel is a) most important (if we’re going to try to be unbiased, that is), or b) most helpful to our argument.

I will be the first to call either side out once we get to 50 Conrad PAs sometime in May-June and someone decides that his performance to that point verifies or discredits their belief about him going into the season.

Conrad is one player, despite all of our own desires, that we’re just going to have to wait and see what happens. And, honestly, we could be in the exact same position come this time next year.

He could post a .340 BABIP, strike out a 1/3 of the time, and provide .380 wOBA in 75-100 PA in 2011 and it shouldn’t change the argument drastically. The strikeouts would be more troubling than ever and his wOBA would likely be more a result of his BABIP than anything else, meaning we’d be no closer to a definitive answer.

That’s baseball.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Mar 28, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

BABIP is the batting average on balls in play. Basically every hitter averages at .300. The main reason a guy hits higher than .300 is ground balls (definitely not Conrad) or surprising speed (not Conrad). The reasons behind a lower than normal BABIP are typically very slow speed (not Conrad) or an overly high number of fly balls hit. The only thing I could see Conrad’s BABIP even dropping to .290ish for is that he’s suddenly trying too hard to drive the ball, and he ends up with an abnormal amount of fly balls.. As it stands, he wasn’t alarmingly high in that category in 2010, at least not so that it would affect his BABIP.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 28, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would say that pretty much wrong.

hitting the ball hard leads to a higher BABiP. If you have a high FB rate and low HR/9 you will have a bad BABiP… and it will not be luck. If you post an awesome LD% you can sustain a really high BABiP. or if as you say have great speed (usually that is paired with a groundball approach).

to say every hitter averages 300 is pretty inaccurate. there is a fair amount of evidence to suggest player’s can control their BABiP.

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by Swo12bv on Mar 28, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

HR/9 would not have an affect on a hitter’s BABIP, as home runs are not counted.

Gentleben is basically saying the same thing you said. How is he wrong?

by YakuzaFro on Mar 28, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

See Ichiro, Diaz...

as examples of consistently better than .300 BABIPs, and different methods of getting there too.

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by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 28, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm

Okay, you’re basically saying what I said. There’s a difference between a fly ball and a line drive. Line drives don’t give time to get under them and find a hole at a solid rate. Fly balls that don’t leave the park, not so much. High amounts of fly balls are bad for BABIP, high amounts of line drives, not as much.

And every hitter in the league combined does average .300 when you sum up all batters across the league. That’s why we use that as the bench mark for pitchers, who have much less control over their BABIP number. Hitters all have a sustainable individual BABIP over their career that also needs to be considered, which is why a guy like Mark Reynolds or Aaron Hill is likely to be better than 2010, and why it is very likely that Austin Jackson will not be as good in 2011.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 29, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, not at all. I’m demeaning any attempt to say “Brooks is xx type of hitter in yy situation,” even if you’re doing so to refute an equally ridiculous argument that Conrad is mythically clutch as a pinch hitter.

If we’re going with minor league equivalency formulas, what do they have to say about Brooks’ main competition in Ed Lucas?

by YakuzaFro on Mar 28, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

here's a wrench for the system..

conrad expresses the heart of the team through his bat and with his glove.. he channeled it into walk off grandslams, and…well i wont finish that

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm…only one of these do I dislike – or at least, disagree with.

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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 27, 2011 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I was with you at first, but we don’t make the playoffs without Brooksy last year. And as long as he doesn’t play in the field, I’m just fine with him as our 25th man (for now).

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by Scott Coleman on Mar 27, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, you may!

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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 27, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love to, but my bracket is locked. It’s also trashed, done, kaput, etc.

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by carpengui on Mar 28, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

So long as the expectations are tempered (and people don’t really convince me that this is the case) and as long as he never sees the field, it’s ok, I guess. I would obviously much rather have Lucas though.

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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 27, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brooks problem was that he decided to play without the batting gloves AND the fielding glove.

by frozendesert on Mar 27, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brooksy deserves a chance to redeem himself

How much happiness did the walk-off GS bring us all? We owe it to him to give our support and hope he has a great season. If he flounders then someone else will get his spot. Let’s give Brooksy another chance, it’s the level-headed thing to do.

by CMassey on Mar 27, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ed Lucas deserves a shot to prove himself more.

by Broccoman on Mar 27, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Based on what, really? There certainly wasn’t a superior option that just blew away the competition for that last bench spot. There’s no way that someone is clearly better than any other option.

by Bronn on Mar 27, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um

This is how teams end up starting Jose Guillen or Carlos Silva after handing them giant contracts. “Give him a chance to earn it.”

Also, this is why certain teams never seem to be able to move beyond a prospect that hasn’t developed, which our own brain trust was guilty on to a slighter degree with Mr. Francoeur. Give him another chance…2005 brought us all such happiness!

Heck, we put up with it with front office guys for way too long, even. Schuerholz was good as Bobby’s puppet, but when he went out on his own toward the end of his time as GM, he made some terrible signings and deals, and fans seemed to continue to give him the second chance up to (and for some even still!) the point that we traded away contending for the entirety of the 201x decade in order to try to add one more year onto The Streak with Tex.

Knowing when to say past performance is an indicator of future expectations is the most important ability to have in business, sports, relationships, and even life. I’m not saying I’m perfect, but instead of going nuts over the pretty girl who can sure do certain naughty things amazingly but has no long-lasting qualities, let’s cut bait and hope to find someone that more fits what we’re looking for.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 28, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

We’re talking about Brooks Conrad here, not a Jose Guillen or a Carlos Silva type signed to a ridiculously overpriced contract that they’ll never earn in three careers. Not a top prospect that showed signs of brilliance but can’t seem to put it all together. A bench player, that’s all. I’m not asking that Brooks take anyone’s spot in the lineup. Just give him a chance to pinch hit because he proved last season he could do that. If he doesn’t hit, then he’ll be replaced and someone else will be given a chance.

by CMassey on Mar 28, 2011 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah pinch hitting isnt easy

and none of the other guys that were fighting for his job did it last year, not lucas or young or constanza or any of them—they wre regulars… conrad was a phenomenal pinch hitter and as far as i can tell he has a mindset thats great for it

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong

As a pinch hitter last season, Conrad went .224/.262/.448 with a 3/20 bb/k ratio. He hardly was “phenomenal” as a pinch hitter. I’d wager Lucas would give the team a similar OPS with a MUCH better bb/k and OBP, which would prove more important in late-game pinch-hitting situations. That has nothing to do with the defensive argument, which would really sway the decision.

Our memories of a few events can drastically skew the truth.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 28, 2011 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is my argument also.

by Broccoman on Mar 28, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

but those numbers really arent that bad

compared to other pinch hitters around the league

by austinhb on Mar 28, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Point

I am far too lazy to look the numbers up, but if his numbers were much better than league average (again, don’t know – too lazy), then you can safely say that he was phenomenal last year.

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by buzzdeadwax on Mar 28, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jose Guillen.

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by TheLetter2 on Mar 28, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

but instead of going nuts over the pretty girl who can sure do certain naughty things amazingly but has no long-lasting qualities, let’s cut bait and hope to find someone that more fits what we’re looking for.

Speak for yourself. I would contend that the ability/willingness to do those certain naughty things is a long-lasting quality and fits very will with what I’m looking for.

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by buzzdeadwax on Mar 28, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a great decision if we were trying to have a team full of players who like the management. However, we are trying to win a championship. There is business and there is personal. This decision should be a business one, not personal.

I like Brooks. He seems like a fantastic guy. Unfortunately, he just isn’t really an MLB-type guy.

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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 28, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

It IS a business decision

Brooks won how many games last year with his bat? He’ll only be employed as a pinch hitter, if he fails at that then he’s gone. No one is asking him to start at second base every day or ever. Just give the man a chance to get a few hits, he only has a minor role. If he can duplicate half of what he did last year then he’s still an asset off the bench. What else we need that spot on the bench for?

by CMassey on Mar 28, 2011 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d put the number of games at 2.

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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 29, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

its one thing to make your point, its another to ignore the other side..

after being a philosophy major, nothing bothers me more than someone who lives in their own world and ignores the other side..

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Having a marketing degree and a statistics emphasis

Ignoring the numbers that disprove your side drastically bothers me.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 28, 2011 4:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

alright big ben haha

you’re right about the numbers, I shouldn’t have relied on my questionable memory for those stats.. For some reason I had wanted to believe the late and close situation numbers were in line with his pinch hitting numbers.. Clearly I made that mistake.. I don’t ignore numbers that support the other side though, my unconscious does

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

What side am I ignoring? I acknowledged the fact that Brooks had some great games off of the bench for us and helped us win a few of them.

The only ignoring being done is by everyone who only looks at those few games and cite them as a reason to keep Brooks this season, even though every reasonable stat shows that he will most likely NOT be able to reproduce what he did in the past, and that he is a player who only brings 1 talent to the team.

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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 29, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your big mistake...

Is assuming that a 254 PA sample size means anything at all, in either direction.

To look at his major league stats and point to any one thing and claim it’s a reasonable reason to believe anything at this point is folly. There is no such thing as a major-league level “reasonable” Brooks Conrad stat at this point.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Mar 29, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why we have to look at his MiLB numbers, which I think everyone can agree are a significant sample size (since the majority of his career has been spent in the Minors), and see that they translate into almost exactly the line that he has posted in his very few MLB PAs – which indicates that his PAs in the Majors are about what we should expect from him – if not less, since he is on the wrong side of 30.

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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 29, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s posted a .324 wOBA in the majors. If you believe that is indicative of his true talent (as you just said you did), he’s on equal footing with players like Omar Infante (.312), Juan Uribe (.312), Asdrubal Cabrera (.329), Edgar Renteria (.329), and Chase Headley (.323).

So no, he hasn’t been “terrible.”

by YakuzaFro on Mar 29, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, he has been terrible. Any guy who can’t get on base at the league-average clip – hell, .40 points BELOW the league average clip, is terrible.

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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 30, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You keep resorting to one stat – one outlying stat – to support your argument.

If you wanted to argue his value as a switch hitter, that’s fine. If you wanted to argue that you prefer a guy who can end a game rather than extend it, go ehead.

But, if you want to argue that Brooks Conrad is not only an MLB-caliber hitter, but a GOOD MLB caliber hitter, then I have issues with that.

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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 30, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you have a problem with the way wOBA is weighted and think that it is not proper, please feel free to submit your thoughts supported by data.

Otherwise your complaints are irrelevant.

by YakuzaFro on Mar 30, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lucas

was hoping he would make the team after his amazing Spring.

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by HEYJUDE on Mar 27, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

He finished badly, something like 1-19 in 9 games, but if plays well in Gwinnett he’ll get a call, I think everybody likes Lucas

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by bighop on Mar 27, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must have missed the games he struggled in.

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by HEYJUDE on Mar 27, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

30% of the time, it works every time.

by frozendesert on Mar 27, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

:)

Right!

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by HEYJUDE on Mar 27, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 27, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

.244/.311/.293?

I’ll pass. Hicks deserved the spot more than Lucas did.

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by Scott Coleman on Mar 27, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely. Hicks earned his spot this spring.

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by award6 on Mar 27, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I thought he deserved to make the team last ST. I’m thrilled for him to make it this year.

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by HEYJUDE on Mar 27, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully nobody put out the flames coming from his ST bat.

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by king of games on Mar 27, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

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by HEYJUDE on Mar 27, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both deserved one more than Conrad…IMO

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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 27, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Conrad is only used to pinch hit.

I have no faith in him on the defensive side of the plate.

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by HEYJUDE on Mar 27, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nor do I

I was very surprised he wasn’t released.

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by DolphinNation on Mar 27, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Conrad proved valuable to the team last year.

None of the other options had ever proved that valuable at the ML level.

His defense is terrible, but there’s no reason to think his offense will be worse than Lucas’… I can see the argument for Lucas, too, but Brooks should still be a helpful bench bat.

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by Jacob Peterson on Mar 27, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bat

Not exactly.

I can see the argument for “power bat”, but not purely for bat. The man strikes out like Ryan Howard or Adam Dunn, but he walks at about the same rate as Juan Pierre. When he does actually make contact, he tends to hit the ball well, but he’s a .230ish career hitter, and that’s perfectly in line with what you’d expect from a guy with 2000 ABs at AAA hitting .260ish. His OBP delta is never going to be more than 75 points, meaning it’s going to be a rare day to see his OBP over .300. So 7 out of the 10 times you send him up to the plate, he will make an out. That’s where I can see an argument for more of the “slap hitting” ways of Ed Lucas (nevermind the defensive flexibility without hurting the squad) and his higher walk and lower K rates off of the bench. Lenny Harris made a career out of pinch hitting with a lot of the same offensive skills that Lucas has and nowhere near the defensive ability.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 28, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

how can you say that

when his obp was over 350 from both sides of the plate last year

i get the value of career numbers, but he is in a different role than those career numbers.. we should evaluate the way he played the role he is in now.. not only did he put up those numbers against better pitchers in the ml but he did it as a pinch hitter.. how are those numbers not more valuable to evaluate him with than career numbers? people f’ing change, people figure shit out.. come the f on

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

His pinch hitting numbers

Posted already for you, but I’ll post them here again, so you can understand:

BA – .224
OBP – .262
SLG – .448
OPS – .710
BB/K – 3/20

You’d be better served to argue that he should start, because his numbers last season were better as a starter.

Also, you are wrong. His OBP as a RH hitter was .366, but as a LH (where he got 136 of his 177 PA), it was .311 for a 2010 OBP of .324.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 28, 2011 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

For someone who espouses themselves as being so big on statistics...

Using PH stats is incredibly dumb. It’s not just a SSS it’s a MSS (Miniscule Sample Size). Brooks Conrad’s high school batting stats would tell me just as much as one season’s worth of Major League PH stats. No one pinch hits at a consistent rate, because it’s impossible to with such limited opportunity.

by J-Turn14 on Mar 28, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

well if we can’t count on him as a PH, then WHAT USE IS HE? He ain’t gonna start., and if “no one pinch hits at a constant rate” why exactly is he here?

by Atlantaspike on Mar 28, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

100% agree

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by JonnyBravesFan on Mar 27, 2011 11:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i was lucas' number one fan

but he didnt deserve the spot over conrad.. he didnt hit well this spring.. worse than conrad actually..

im not even going into the arguments with you hahah

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure that Conrad hit better than Lucas? Going into last week, Conrad had worse numbers than Mather…

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 29, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Free Matt Young!!

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by DolphinNation on Mar 27, 2011 4:49 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Mission Accomplished!

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by bighop on Mar 27, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta root for the guy, I'll tell ya

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by DolphinNation on Mar 27, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a spark plug, can’t wait til he gets that first MLB hit and gets the ball back

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by bighop on Mar 27, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Done. What’s next?

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by king of games on Mar 27, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm…your signature?

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by Scott Coleman on Mar 27, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be the ultimate pics or it didn't happen situation.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

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by Doghnut on Mar 27, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, who are some potential candidates to be put on waivers by their teams that we will look to add?

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by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 27, 2011 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I heard some guy from St. Louis would be put on waivers

by the name of Albert something-or-other. I doubt anyone will pick him up.

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by DolphinNation on Mar 27, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s probably the next Werth.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 27, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I got so tired of hearing that too…

by Santaklose11 on Mar 28, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t wait to see both Hicks and Young running the basepaths

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by award6 on Mar 27, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

*Just Chill* when things start to look a bit difficult-don't panic as you take away your ability to think straight. Go Braves! Go Dawgs! Go Falcons!

by HEYJUDE on Mar 27, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

we might actually steal some bases this year

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was pulling for phucking Ed Lucas

GSO

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by MikeTrain on Mar 27, 2011 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope he doesn’t have to wear one of those big helmets, that’s an ugly picture

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by bighop on Mar 27, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree :)

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by HEYJUDE on Mar 27, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Melky was a fail, but that was Melky’s fault, or the fault of Atlanta for having awesome cheeseburgers and ribs.

by Broccoman on Feb 21, 2011 4:11 PM EST

by ROBravo on Mar 27, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the one!

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by bighop on Mar 27, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not the shortest ever

That appears to be 3’7". But he may be tied for the shortest, if he’s 5’6" (which I remember hearing, but I can’t recall if it was a joke or not).

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 27, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

fail

tied for the current shortest.

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 27, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

5'8'' according to mlb.com

But they probably stretch such things.

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by Doghnut on Mar 27, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by BravesDawg16 on Mar 28, 2011 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still an inch taller than me.

LIVE EDT

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by TheLetter2 on Mar 28, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

…First beverage clean-up off the computer screen this year.

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by NCChopper on Mar 28, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

glad I could be the one to give it to you

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by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 28, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS?

Don't kiss an ass if it's in the process of shitting on you.

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by buzzdeadwax on Mar 28, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hilarious.

LIVE EDT

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by TheLetter2 on Mar 28, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another short guy made a roster today...

Our old pal Tim Collins, who came over in the Escobar/Gonzalez deal and was later flipped in the deal with the Royals has been told he made the Royals big club. Great news for him. 5"7 lefty who has averaged more than 10k/9 in his minor league career.

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by BenDuronio on Mar 27, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d much rather have kept Collins in the farm last year, than flip him for Ankiel and Farnsworth. Ah, well. There is a reason that Frank Wren makes the big bucks.

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by Chopaholic on Mar 27, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The cost/benefit of potentially making our team a World Series team was worth it, despite losing a guy with good stuff.

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by BenDuronio on Mar 27, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly no one could have predicted that our team would be ravished by injuries. If Ankiel had performed like his pre-cuncussion days and Farnsworth how he was pitching in KC then this wouldn’t even be a conversation.

by drumzalicious on Mar 28, 2011 1:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

In all fairness, those two guys helped us a lot in the playoffs.

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by king of games on Mar 28, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man

I really wish we still had him. Aside from getting rid of Jesse Chavez, that trade was a disaster.

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by Jacob Peterson on Mar 27, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats to him. Hope he does well, even if we regret it.

Then again I feel we did get a little out of Ankiel and Farnsworth.

by Broccoman on Mar 27, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Royals put a former Brave on their roster?

I don’t believe you.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 28, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we can add someone else other than

Cristhian Martinez I just don’t see anything good about his stuff today he had to struggle to get to 91 but sat 86-89. I think one of our young guys like Marek should have been giving a serious look.

by Atlborn3 on Mar 27, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

You can’t judge him by just today. He didn’t look that good today but has looked pretty good for the most of the spring and limited appearances last season.

by LEastCoastBears on Mar 27, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

No matter how bad he looked today

he looked better than Proctor!

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by DolphinNation on Mar 27, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What we have to keep in mind

Is that Martinez is not expected to be a set-up guy or go-to guy in this bullpen. His value is his ability to throw multiple innings and throw strikes, thats why he is on this team

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by BravesDawg16 on Mar 27, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...to all of this.

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by Scott Coleman on Mar 27, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great

Looking forward to Opening Day in 4 days. Hopefully, the weather would cooperate. 30% chance of rain.

by LEastCoastBears on Mar 27, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Im very disappointed conrad made the team. His roster spot could be better used on someone who can play defense. Oh well Im pulling for him now anyway

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by JonnyBravesFan on Mar 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I always liked Conrad, but did not expect him to make it this year. Bad end to last year and not a great spring. Hope he hits somewhat like last year. He just bought a new house, he needs the job.

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by bighop on Mar 27, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand the distaste for Conrad but he is not going to be playing defense often, he is here to attempt to recreate what he did last year. If a big piece goes down he won’t gain any playing time, he is our “RH bench bat”(I know he is a switch hitter) and if its bottom of the 9th with a chance to tie it I want Conrad with a bat in his hand. Also congrats to Matty Young, we have all been waiting for his appearance in the bigs and I hope he kills it.

by BravoChop! on Mar 27, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t have any anger twords him for his errors last season, im just convinced he doesn’t bring enough to the table to warrant a spot on the roster. Hope he proves me wrong

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by JonnyBravesFan on Mar 27, 2011 11:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I might feel the same way about Hicks. Look at his batting line last year in AAA. Whew, it’s ugly.

We need to pray Alex Gonzalez doesn’t get hurt.

by Bronn on Mar 27, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

timely homers

are better than anything else a bench player can do..

winning games that otherwise wouldnt be won.. thats huge

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not thrilled with Conrad

The guy is a major defensive liability. I think every game that I managed to watch this spring with him in it, he managed to screw up a play.

If Fredi will only use him for pinch hitting, great. But if he’s ever forced to put him out on the field we’ll be in trouble.

by sag969 on Mar 27, 2011 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s just like George Sherrill. He can do one thing, and he can do it well. If he does any more than that is when we start to get in trouble.

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by Scott Coleman on Mar 27, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Conrad

I have a feeling that Conrad may end up being another Greg Norton. As he is a switch hitter, a defensive liability, and had a great year the year before. Now fast forward, both had horrible springs and still made the team now I think that he will struggle mightily and be released mid season once a better option is traded for.

by mauck98 on Mar 27, 2011 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Conrad

Better not see one inning in the field.

Kawakami - 1, Halladay - 0

by BigG1392 on Mar 27, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Cutting Proctor and

Martinez getting the last spot as the long relief man is the right move. I didn’t think the Braves would make that move, but they did. Great job Braves FO. I’m happy and it looks like I’m not the only one feeling this way…..Opening Day in four days…..I’m so excited

by Braves24 on Mar 27, 2011 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

4 Days and the season begins!

For now, the excitement of seeing #10 in our opening day lineup for 2011 is greater than the apprehension I have in the choice to keep Conrad.

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by NCChopper on Mar 27, 2011 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

So what's the rotation?

If JJ isn’t pitching until game 6 in Milwaukee, then how’s it going to shake out?

Shouldn’t it go…

Wash- Lowe, Hanson, Hudson
Mil- JJ, Lowe, Hanson
Phi- Hudson, Beachy, JJ
Mil-

by Braves12 on Mar 27, 2011 7:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'd guess...

Lowe, OFF, Hanson, Hudson, Beachy, Jurrjens, Lowe, Hanson, Hudson, Beachy, Jurrjens.

I’m guessing DOB meant the 7th game when he was speculating earlier. Lowe has a day off after his first start so he’d start the 6th game and then Jurrjens would start that Wednesday in Milwaukee.

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by Scott Coleman on Mar 27, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s 4 games in Milw before they come home

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by bighop on Mar 27, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

reply fail

to Braves12

"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G

by bighop on Mar 27, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coming soon: winningugly visits Atlanta, takes dump in royhobbs’ Braves hat.

by 10-4 on Mar 27, 2011 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

How long did it take to post that?

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by Scott Coleman on Mar 27, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he’s still waiting to see if it actually posted.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 28, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

When i originally hit Post, i had FIRST!!!!!1 in the Title.

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by 10-4 on Mar 28, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Conrad’s defense may be mediocre, but most (or rather, all) of his big errors were in the playoffs. Without him in the field, Hicks is our only infielder for short and third and second. We’ll have to use him sometime.

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by ChopMaster on Mar 27, 2011 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Young plays 2nd. They would go to him before Conrad I believe. In addition, Prado plays third and second as well. Hinske can go to LF if Prado moves in.

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by BenDuronio on Mar 27, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right.

Covering the infield defense should not be a problem at all with the current roster. We have two natural infielders in the outfield.

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by Jacob Peterson on Mar 27, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats to Matty Young

Looking forward to seeing him on the basepaths. Glad to see Martinez over Proctor for the last spot in the ’pen. Hopefully, Brooks is kept on a short leash and should he falter, Ed Lucas gets the call-up.

by CMassey on Mar 27, 2011 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t really know what kind of a year Conrad will have, but he had a fairly poor Spring last year too. A lot of people wanted the job to go to Thurston, who outplayed Brooks IIRC. That decision got us into the playoffs last year, and most people probably don’t even remember who Thurston is. Wouldn’t be surprised if I’m not even remember his name correctly. I don’t expect Conrad to see the field much and am glad he’s back.

by Sir Stealth on Mar 27, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Thurston didn’t outplay Brooks in ST last year, nor did Brooks have a bad ST. Thurston and Brooks both had fantastic ST, with Brooks finishing stronger than Joe did.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 28, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I’m assuming all these decisions were made before Cristhian Martinez’s outing today. Yuck.

by sag969 on Mar 27, 2011 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

They were, but

even after today, would you rather have Proctor out there than Martinez?

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 28, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Given the whole of Spring, I’m still thinking Proctor > Sherrill.

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by carpengui on Mar 28, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather have Farnsworth than either of them.

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by king of games on Mar 28, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you decide to keep Brooksy...

The Freddi’s comment about him having made the team all along make perfect sense. You want him to feel as confident as possible when the time comes that he’s needed…not like he’s hanging by the skin of his teeth. Make him feel like he belongs.

by TomahawkGuy on Mar 27, 2011 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Scott Diamond didn’t make the Twins 25 Man roster.

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by Lennox on Mar 27, 2011 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't they have to offer him back to us before they cut him?

Or do I have that backwards?

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 27, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have to offer him back to us before they can option him to AAA.

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by Lennox on Mar 27, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, so he’s not cut yet… they’ve just announced that they’re going to. Got it.

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 27, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Per MLBTR, they’re trying to work out a deal with us to keep him. Guess we’ll know within three days how that does or doesn’t shake out.

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by J-Freak on Mar 28, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

What are the options

if Freddie Freeman goes down? Do we go out and trade for one? Im probably just dreaming but maybe Albert?

by kwfoster on Mar 27, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

*when I say one i mean a 1B

by kwfoster on Mar 27, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chances of Pujols to the Braves

are approximately zero. Sorry.

I’m going to say the most likely bet is another trade for Adam LaRoche.

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by Jacob Peterson on Mar 27, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wish we would have kept Lee

In baseball, you're supposed to sit on your ass, spit tobacco, and nod at stupid things. Perfect life might I add.

by HeywardFTW! on Mar 27, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

Freeman is ready. That’s like wishing we had Francoeur back to hold Heyward in the minors last season. That said, to answer the OP, if Freeman goes down, Hinske would cover for a bit, Uggla has put on the 1B mitt a few times in his career, and we also have other options in the minor leagues. Heck, Russell Branyan was signed for a minor league deal this offseason. A temporary fill-in wouldn’t be hard to find, even if it’s just to suffice through the end of 2011 if Freeman has a major issue that holds him out for some time.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Mar 28, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

You mean Why Not? I mean, we had 10 million extra dollars to burn so we couldve kept Lee…

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by Doghnut on Mar 28, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

what would we have done with him?

oh you’re being sarcastic.. and pretending like liberty media doesnt prefer to take that money home as bonuses

by willlinn on Mar 28, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

And you only say approximately

Because there’s that one master hypnotist Braves fan who’s still trying to ambush Albert and convince him to signing here for $1 annually.

by Bronn on Mar 27, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure the rest of the league would just forfeit at that point.

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by king of games on Mar 28, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do we still have Canizares in AAA? I think Hinske would play there for 2 weeks.

by Broccoman on Mar 27, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I think we lost him last season.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 28, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't find any particular details about where he is now

other than a note that he wasn’t invited to the A-Braves ST camp this year. My guess is he’s still around, we just don’t have anything to do with a DH in the NL.

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 28, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hinske.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 28, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

What are the options

if Freddie Freeman goes down? Do we go out and trade for one? Im probably just dreaming but maybe Albert?

by kwfoster on Mar 27, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

You are in a deep deep deep deep dream my friend no way in hell.

In baseball, you're supposed to sit on your ass, spit tobacco, and nod at stupid things. Perfect life might I add.

by HeywardFTW! on Mar 27, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like we have enough depth in our farm system to land someone top name though….not albert though….just a wish list :)

by kwfoster on Mar 27, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have the depth to nail anyone but we dont have the cash to keep them around

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by HeywardFTW! on Mar 27, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...it's definitely getting close to Opening Day.

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by Scott Coleman on Mar 27, 2011 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

i dont get it.....

what is this opening day thing everyone is talking about….?

by Bizarros on Mar 27, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

soooo

What’s the deal with Wagner?

by drumzalicious on Mar 28, 2011 1:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I almost nominated hiim in my auction draft last night – just like I did Wainwright and Burrell.

This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards
by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:20 AM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Mar 28, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

He sent in his retirement papers via Pony Express.

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by Lennox on Mar 28, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some guy just took him in my 12-team Roto draft. Let’s hope that guy knows something we don’t!

by kreese555 on Mar 28, 2011 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have him on my dynasty team…I will not release him until he is no longer on the 40 man roster…still holding out hope (not that we need him, but it wouldn’t hurt)

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Mar 28, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

How much did our grit factor improve with Matty Young on the roster?

by get swoll yunel on Mar 28, 2011 7:35 AM EDT reply actions  

between Conrad, Young, and McLouth… i think we lead the league in gritty short guys…and remember we have Mycal JOnes on the farm too and he could make the team sometime this year…another short gritty guy…

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Mar 28, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really happy to hear Matt get his chance.

by SnipeShot on Mar 28, 2011 7:37 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm still trying to get over...

…the Braves Opening Day roster without Diaz on the bench.
.

My avatar has a message for Bobby.
"Curve: The loveliest distance between two points." ~ Mae West

by NCChopper on Mar 28, 2011 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

this +1000

Chicks dig the long ball.

by kimrob1 on Mar 28, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shouldnt that be

without Bobby

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Mar 28, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

No caveman

makes me sad :’(

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 28, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes my gf sad, too

but only because Matty was the easiest person for her to recognize at the plate. I’m still not sure she knows his name, he’s just “the one that leans back really far at the plate.” :)

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 28, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just know he’s up there somewhere, mispronouncing his own surname and watching over us all.

LIVE EDT

Tape-delayed for the West Coast

by TheLetter2 on Mar 28, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

If by "up there somewhere" you mean Pittsburgh

then I am not comforted at all by your idea of an afterlife.

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 28, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a scary prospect.

LIVE EDT

Tape-delayed for the West Coast

by TheLetter2 on Mar 28, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife’s favorite player is Chipper Jones, for the simple reason that his name is Chipper Jones. I don’t have the heart to tell her his name is actually Larry.

If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02

by king of games on Mar 28, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's how this year started for the gf

and then opening day came around, and Heyward was one of her favorites, too… and then Prado… and then McCann… and then Omar… and then Ross… and then Conrad…

I think pretty much the entire bench is “her favorite” now, with the exception of Lucas and Hicks, who she hasn’t really seen much of ;)

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 28, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think most women (not all, obviously) choose their favorite players based on their looks, I mean duh, ya know.

However, I’m a female and awesome, so I choose my favorites based on awesomeness…even though it doesn’t hurt when they are deliciously good-looking…or have bodies that I want to climb (Prado).

Chicks dig the long ball.

by kimrob1 on Mar 28, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Her metric is pretty simple

who’s hit a home run? :)

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 28, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chicks dig the long ball

(best commercial ever, or, at least up there)

Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.

by award6 on Mar 28, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had never seen that commercial

but it may supplant my previous favorite baseball commercial. If only I could find a video of it… :(

It was a faux interview with two of the Colorado Rockies (maybe Sheffield and Galaragga?) where the interviewer was asking them about whether or not they thought it was easier to hit in Denver than other stadiums due to the altitude. There was a baseball sitting between them on a small table.

They were quick to say “No, of course not, it doesn’t make much of a difference,” and started trying to explain it away. The whole time they were giving their explanation, though, the baseball was slowly floating up off the table.

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 28, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must youtube the ‘chicks dig the long ball’ commercial asap. Just because it’s been like 3 weeks since I last watched it.

Chicks dig the long ball.

by kimrob1 on Mar 28, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife’s favorite player is Chipper Jones as well, because he is “serious”. Though recently she started to like Heyward as well as soon as she saw the piece on why he wears 22.

by Santaklose11 on Mar 28, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I forgot about that

that’s how she describes Heyward to other people that aren’t into baseball. “You know, the one who changed his number because…”

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 28, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Chipper too. I do love his “seriousness” on the field, but he is so funny (umm, Bobby’s on-field ceremony last year??)

Every time I see Moylan, I hear techno music.

Chicks dig the long ball.

by kimrob1 on Mar 28, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some mental images

you just can’t unsee o.o

"…the umps in San Francisco somehow missed Brooks Conrad’s tag at second base on a sliding Buster Posey, who could’ve been called out from a houseboat in Sausalito."
-- Tommy Craggs

by duwanis on Mar 28, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beau Torbert

Anyone know where Beau Torbert is playing this year? Gwinnett? Mississippi? Rome?

by Santaklose11 on Mar 28, 2011 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Assumption is Mississippi, but it hasn’t been announced

"It's like winning a war...you need arms and money." Fredi G

by bighop on Mar 28, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excited for Opening Day on Thursday!

Looking forward to another summer of TC-related hijinks, Riley the rally dog, Bubb Rubb, the Rainbow Llamasaurus, and other such things.
 
Although I’m focused on the upcoming Frozen Four next week right now.
 
Go Braves!

"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton

by UMDBHIK on Mar 28, 2011 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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