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Braves Rewind: 2010 Fan Projections for Relievers

With pitchers and catchers reporting today, it's about time to finish looking back at 2010 and start looking forward to 2011. Accordingly, this will be the last of my posts looking back at how the 2010 season compared to the projections. To wrap things up, we'll look at probably the strongest area of last year's team: the bullpen. For more on what the FanGraphs fan projections were going into the 2010 season, see my post from last year.

Here's a summary of what the fans expected from our most important relievers:

Player IP SV ERA FIP BB/9 HR/9 K/9 LOB% WAR
Billy Wagner 51 25 2.82 2.94 3.18 0.71 10.59 79.0% 1.3
Peter Moylan 75   1 2.76 3.34 3.00 0.60   7.68 76.9% 1.2
Takashi Saito 50   1 3.24 3.75 3.60 0.90   8.82 80.0% 0.5
Eric O'Flaherty 49   0 3.86 3.83 2.94 0.73   6.43 73.0% 0.4
Luis Valdez 30   0 4.20 3.43 3.60 0.60   7.80 73.0% 0.3
Kris Medlen 78   0 3.92 3.53 3.23 0.81   9.12 74.4% 1.3
Jesse Chavez 71   0 4.06 4.45 3.04 1.27   7.10 78.3% 0.1
Mike Dunn  28   0 4.50 4.10 4.82 0.96   9.96 77.4% 0.1

The fans thought our top 6 relievers would be worth 5 WAR, good for the most in the division. Though they got a lot wrong--heck, even Jairo Asencio's name is wrong!--the fans were right that the Braves would have the top bullpen in the NL East. In fact, the bullpen was even better than its projection. It was probably the second-best 'pen in all of MLB, behind only the Padres' (who were helped out by a spacious home ballpark). Let's see how the Braves' actual relief numbers compare:

Player IP SV ERA FIP BB/9 HR/9 K/9 LOB% WAR
Billy Wagner 69.1 37 1.43 2.10 2.86 0.65 13.50 87.5%   2.2
Jonny Venters 83.0   1 1.95 2.69 4.23 0.11 10.08 73.2%   1.7
Takashi Saito 54.0   1 2.83 2.43 2.83 0.67 11.50 72.5%   1.2
Eric O'Flaherty 44.0   0 2.45 3.33 3.68 0.41   7.36 92.0%   0.5
Kris Medlen* 23.2   0 3.04 2.49 1.90 0.38   7.99 66.4%   0.5
Craig Kimbrel 20.2   1 0.44 1.53 6.97 0.00 17.42 76.9%   0.5
Kyle Farnsworth 20.0   0 5.40 2.93 3.15 0.90 11.25 52.1%   0.3
Mike Dunn 19.0   0 1.89 3.60 8.05 0.47 12.79 91.5%   0.1
Cristhian Martinez 26.0   0 4.85 3.58 2.08 1.04   7.62 67.1%   0.1
Peter Moylan 63.2   1 2.97 4.30 5.23 0.71   7.35 80.0% -0.1
Jesse Chavez 36.2   0 5.89 3.69 2.95 1.47   7.12 65.0% -0.1

* These are just Medlen's numbers in relief.

Lots of guys outperformed their projections, obviously. Wagner was phenomenal in his final season, and Saito had a nice return to form as well. The biggest surprise was definitely the marvelous Jonny Venters, who came out of nowhere to have one of the best seasons of any set-up man. Kimbrel was a nice addition at the end of the year as well. Even Kyle Farnsworth was semi-useful after we traded for him, more or less (though he certainly had a few cruddy outings, as his 52.1% strand rate shows). Really the only disappointment was Peter Moylan, who had a bit of a down year, though I still don't understand how he had a negative WAR. He wasn't that bad.

The three things you really want a bullpen to do are 1) prevent walks, 2) prevent homers, and 3) strike dudes out, and the 2010 Braves' pen was absolutely phenomenal at two of those. Craig Kimbrel gave up no homers at all in limited work, and Jonny Venters only gave up one in more than 80 innings. That's ridiculous (and unsustainable--both guys will need to lower their walk rates to maintain the same success). Nobody gave up a lot of homers except jettisoned long man Jesse Chavez. The strikeout rates were just as crazy; six guys struck out at least 10 men per 9 IP, paced by Kimbrel's that-looks-like-a-misprint mark of 17.42 K/9. 

More good stuff (and graphs) after the jump.

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Add up the Braves' ideal 7-man bullpen (by WAR), and you get a phenomenal 6.9 WAR. There were a few other guys who were at or below replacement level, but they were mostly in very limited innings, so the total relief WAR for the Braves was a still-excellent 6.7. It was a great bullpen until the injury bug struck, which unfortunately was at the worst possible time--during the last stretch run and the playoffs.

Here's how the Braves' pen compares to the rest of the division's totals (hint: they compare quite well):

Actual_vs_projected_rp_war_medium

The left column for each team measures just the team's top 7 relievers by WAR (closer at the bottom, the top set-up man, the second set-up man, and then the 4 best other relievers combined at the top). The right column gives the team's overall bullpen WAR (white with brown border) and the amount of negative WAR accrued by the team's other relievers (in red). Every team had negative WAR from their back-of-the-bullpen guys, but as you can see, the Braves' long men fared relatively well. (Those Mets mop-up guys must have been just brutal; reason #1,654,923 that I'm glad I'm not a Mets fan.)

You may have noticed from the graph that the Braves had the best two relievers (by WAR) in the division: Billy Wagner and Jonny Venters. Pretty sweet.

Interesting that the Nats had the 2nd-best bullpen; I never would have guessed that. They did get some very good work from Tyler Clippard, Drew Storen, and Sean Burnett, but I hadn't realized how good.

I think it's kind of funny, also, that we had 6 relievers who posted a better WAR than the Phillies' closer, including Craig Kimbrel in 20.2 IP. People are rushing to crown the Phillies now (and not without reason; that rotation is phenomenal), but they do have an Achilles' heel, and it's in the bullpen. They already had the worst bullpen in the division, and it hasn't gotten any better this offseason. Of course, their bullpen won't be needed that often if the starters stay healthy, so it probably won't matter, but a fan can dream.

Here's how the Braves' reliever compared to their projections in five rate stats: runners stranded (LOB%), hits (H/9), walks (BB/9), homers (HR/9), and strikeouts (K/9). Remember, more green (further from center) is good.

Actual_vs_projected_-_rp_medium

In three categories, the Braves were just a tad better than projected: strand rate, hit rate, and homer rate. They walked a lot more guys than projected, but they also struck out a ton more than projected, so that balanced out.

Compared to the league reliever average, the Braves just dominated in strikeout and homer rate, as alluded to above. They also performed quite well in hit rate, thanks to all the Ks and having a few good sinkerballers. The only area in which they weren't very good was walk rate. Kimbrel, Moylan, and Dunn, really struggled with their control at times, and Venters also had some trouble. Of course, hardly any of those walks scored, so it's easy to forgive them. Hopefully Kimbrel, Moylan, and Venters can lower their walk rates in 2011. If they do that without regressing much in other areas, watch out.

Bullpens are always hard to project, so it is tough to say whether the Braves' relief corps can duplicate their 2010 performance. We'll certainly miss Wagner and Saito, but on the other hand, we'll get a full season of Craig Kimbrel and (presumably) a bounce-back year from Peter Moylan. A lot will depend on new additions, both the guys we acquired (like George Sherrill and Scott Linebrink) and guys from the minors. The loser of the Minor/Beachy 5th starter battle will likely end up in the 'pen as well, which should help. I don't think the end result will be quite as dominant as the 2010 bullpen, but it should be pretty good.

What do you think of last year's projections? What would you project for next year's bullpen?

Thanks for reading, as always.

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Good post

I think Moylan will get back to positive WAR in 2011. I hope Linebrink and Sherrill work out OK, they are quite the drop off from last years “veteran additions” of Wagner and Saito. Part of me wishes Wren had used their $3.2M on bench help and used our internal options for the pen. Martinez, Marek, Proctor, Gearrin, Ascencio, Abreu and Minor/Beachy could have filled out the pen with Kimbrel, Venters, Moylan and O’Flaherty and still have guys in AAA to step in if needed.

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by bighop on Feb 14, 2011 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

Great post. Thanks

If we can just limit the walks and keep everything else the same this year…watch out.

by Braves24 on Feb 14, 2011 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

Re: the comment that Kimbrell and Venters cannot sustain the low HR rate.

Generally, I think for most relievers that it is true—-a very low HR rate is not likely to be sustainable and a high BB rate will eventually be deadly. With Kimbrell, however, I am not sure that this is necessarily true. For the season in the majors, Kimbrell faced 88 batters and struck out 40 of them. If we look at when he was his best after he was recalled in late August, he faced 47 batters and struck out 25 of them. His BABIP for the season was a slightly low .281 but was a high .313 after he was recalled in August. The point is that his low HR total is sustainable basically because nobody hits his pitches at all. Between his 40 K’s and 16 BB’s, only 32 out of 88 batters he faced hit the ball fair at all. This will inevitable lead to very low HR rates. Over a full season, Kimbrell is basically Carlos Marmol from last year—-who also walked or whiffed over half the batters he faced, and who only gave up 1 HR (and only 2 HR in 2009, but somehow 10 HR in 2008).

by cavebird on Feb 14, 2011 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

Okay, let me simplify that.

Yes, normally relievers need to reduce the walks to be effective, but when you have a 17 + K/9 rate, you can get away with a hell of a lot more.

by cavebird on Feb 14, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I don't think *that* is sustainable either...

Though he’ll certainly K a lot of dudes.

But the larger point is, he’ll give up some homers at some point. Everybody does. Nobody can sustain a HR rate below, I dunno, 0.4 HR/9. (haven’t looked up the actual #s but that seems right based on what I’ve seen)

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by Jacob Peterson on Feb 15, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Great stuff as always!

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by Scott Coleman on Feb 14, 2011 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

PeMo had a Negative WAR?

I know you pointed this oddity out and so did the first poster here but…

WHAT?!

Must have been the home run he gave up when Heyward tackled McLouth…

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by SuperNewb on Feb 14, 2011 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

He gave up 4 more legit homers after that one, too.

Though his overall HR rate was still good. The real problem was his walks. It’s not a bad thing that WAR values walks so highly… though Peter was able to work around them fairly well this year, and WAR missed that.

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by Jacob Peterson on Feb 15, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Moylan

Seeing Moylan having negative WAR is one of those things that makes you realize that WAR isn’t God’s gift to sabremetrics. Moylan will never do very well in WAR because it is based on FIP, which in turn looks at strikeouts, walks, and homeruns. It doesn’t take into account things like ground ball rate, so Moylan’s GB% which is in fact obscenely high doesn’t matter.

by Ratwar on Feb 15, 2011 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

Obviously it underrated him in 2010...

but it does tell us something. Namely, that his walk rate went way up from previous season, and way, way up from 2007. It’s not like WAR perpetually underrates Moylan—he was worth 1.2 WAR in 2009, which seems pretty darn close to his actual value that year. But he was clearly worth less in 2010. He walked too many guys, and struck out fewer, gave up more homers, and was just generally not as effective except for getting a ton of grounders.

Do I think he should have had a negative WAR? No. I’d have put him at 0.3 or 0.4. But let’s not throw out WAR and FIP just because they are imperfect.

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by Jacob Peterson on Feb 15, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I never said that we should throw it out, I just said that Moylan will always under-perform in them due to his high GB rate, similar to Tim Hudson. The reason it gives Moylan such a good number in 2009 is that he had an incredible HR rate. That is to say that he didn’t give up any.

I think FIP and WAR are pretty good stats, but in the extreme cases (say a sidearm throwing ROOGY) it doesn’t always capture the player.

by Ratwar on Feb 15, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

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