Rockies Trade Interest Turning From Braves Prado To Jurrjens
by gondeee on Dec 7, 2011 11:52 AM EST
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PrintThe Colorado Rockies seem to really like Atlanta Braves players, at least that's what the rumors are saying. After flirting with a Martin Prado trade for the past month, the rumors are now saying that perhaps they are pursuing starting pitching, so naturally they're pursuing Jair Jurrjens.
Braves beat writer Mark Bowman agrees:
Same applies to all of these "rumors," they are after all rumors and should be taken with a grain of salt. Though the Rockies certainly seem active on the trade front, and determined to improve their club. The Braves appear to match up well with them, though I get the impression that there is some reluctance on the part of the Rockies to trade their younger players, and the Braves want to acquire younger players with more years of control for JJ and Marteeen.
I'm gonna make the statement that anytime you hear a rumor like this coming from one team, you can go ahead and infer that the Braves are having the same conversation with at least several other teams. I'd also infer that any rumor saying a team has interest in Gio Gonzalez or Andrew Bailey, that team more than likely also has interest in Jurrjens. That's how these writers are getting to the 8 to 10 interested in Jurrjens rumor. For instance, here is an idea of the trade market for starting pitchers:
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Hasn’t JJ been pretty bad at Coors?
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
Prado+jj for tulo
Yes…
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Dec 7, 2011 11:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Only if they throw in CarGo to sweeten the deal.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Besides, Wren wouldn’t make that deal, he doesn’t want a long-term SS.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Haha
+1
"I wasn’t thinking about it. That’s the worst celebration of all time. I didn’t know what to do. I got lost in the moment." - Brian McCann
by HansonManCrush on Dec 7, 2011 12:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And '95 Galaraga
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Dec 7, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Why would an interest in Andrew Bailey signify...
…interest in JJ? I can understand that interest in Gio Gonzalez would (well, except for the Phillies who wouldn’t likely make a trade with their biggest divisional competitor) but I don’t see why interest in a closer would.
Yeah, I don't get that either.
"If it's F'd up then it's F'd up" --- Gregg Marshall
in all seriousness this is a fair trade is there any chance of it happening
prado jurrjens and bethancourt for cargo, which team wouldnt do that
Only one team
and thats all it takes
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Dec 7, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
this hurts my eyes...
I don’t think that even gets the phone line open.
Prado, Teheran and Salcedo might not even open the door…
In the body of other posts, I am often admittedly high and tend to not want to edit a lot.
by willlinn on Dec 2, 2011 12:01 PM PST
by Klemson Krash on Dec 7, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody would
I can’t even begin to imagine how you think thats fair
I would do Smith and Fowler/Arenado for JJ, nothing less.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Dec 7, 2011 12:12 PM EST reply actions
This
Although they appear to have no interest in dealing Fowler. I like this scenario much more as it gives you a LF platoon of Prado/Smith, with Prado spelling Chipper at 3rd.
If the deal were to happen you figure Diaz out of plans as you’d have a bench of Hinske, Ross, Prado/Smith, Utility IF, OF/CF
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
That would be a waste of Prado and the money he’s being paid.
Q: If not us, who? If not now, when? A: The Batman. And "when you least expect it."
Yea but with all of the 5:00 dinner reservations that Chipper has I’m sure Prado would get ample playing time.
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He still would get plenty of PT
And he makes about the same as a very good utility player anyways.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
Regarding that 'Turning' headline...
… I don’t know that they aren’t now thinking about both Prado and JJ. The monies saved on Street would cover both of them this year. Given how these teams seem to match up, I think a blockbuster could be in the offing.
"Forget Roy Halladay or Clayton Kershaw or Cliff Lee, the NL Cy Young Award should go to O’Ventrel." - David Schoenfield, ESPN.com, 8/19/11
I agree
But I think the front office likes Smith and Prado together from what DOB tweeted. If they are wanting Prado and JJ, we’d better get a serious haul.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Dec 7, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah.
"Forget Roy Halladay or Clayton Kershaw or Cliff Lee, the NL Cy Young Award should go to O’Ventrel." - David Schoenfield, ESPN.com, 8/19/11
I’d like to get one of those CF prospects, Arenado, Smith, and Fowler. Anything less than that for Jurrjens and Prado just isn’t enough.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Dec 7, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking Arenado, Smith, and Wheeler as the “must haves”.
"Forget Roy Halladay or Clayton Kershaw or Cliff Lee, the NL Cy Young Award should go to O’Ventrel." - David Schoenfield, ESPN.com, 8/19/11
I just feel like with the kind of talent we’re giving up, we’d have to get Fowler or another piece along with those three.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Dec 7, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
They’re giving up 19 years of team control for four years in your scenario. That’s not at all realistic, especially considering the talent associated with at least 13 (Smith, Fowler, Arenado) of those years on their end.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I doubt that we could get 2/3rds of their ML outfield. In my scenario, they would replace Smith with Blackmon, plug Prado in at second, and profit. As it is, I’m asking for their top position player prospects… if you think we could do that and steal a pitching prospect, then let’s do it.
From the Braves’ perspective, Smith and Diaz would be a formidable platoon. Arenado is a stud and could be ready to replace Chipper (roughly) as soon as he hangs up the spikes. Wheeler would be our next ‘center-fielder-of-the-future’.
"Forget Roy Halladay or Clayton Kershaw or Cliff Lee, the NL Cy Young Award should go to O’Ventrel." - David Schoenfield, ESPN.com, 8/19/11
In other news...
Yankees win the right to negotiate with Nakajima. Yawn.
"Forget Roy Halladay or Clayton Kershaw or Cliff Lee, the NL Cy Young Award should go to O’Ventrel." - David Schoenfield, ESPN.com, 8/19/11
yeah, I didn’t get that either…. unless they merely put in a token offer and got surprised to win.
"Forget Roy Halladay or Clayton Kershaw or Cliff Lee, the NL Cy Young Award should go to O’Ventrel." - David Schoenfield, ESPN.com, 8/19/11
Jeter is old and Nunez sucks, why wouldn’t they want him?
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Jeter is signed for 2 more years PLUS a player option for 2014. In general, you’re right, of course, but any discussion about Yankee players seems to come with a “yeah, but…” clause. Also, you never really know just how good these Japanese free agents will be.
"Forget Roy Halladay or Clayton Kershaw or Cliff Lee, the NL Cy Young Award should go to O’Ventrel." - David Schoenfield, ESPN.com, 8/19/11
They’ll likely use him as a utility to let Jeter and ARod DH or sit.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
TWSS?
"If it's F'd up then it's F'd up" --- Gregg Marshall
You are really bad at TWSS jokes.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
I guess at least in the nosebleeds, but with those seats you might as well watch from home in HD.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, I give..
I will hang up my “TWSS” comments and pass them along to a younger generation…
"If it's F'd up then it's F'd up" --- Gregg Marshall
I really don't see the fuss about smith.. Yes he has a solid ba/obp
Bit he lacks the power we want from an OF and is 29… Certainly JJ could warrant much more than that
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-Mel Kiper, Jr.
you guys are like a bunch of pirahnas
by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT
by MikeTrain on Dec 7, 2011 12:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
More power than Prado.
In baseball, you're supposed to sit on your ass, spit tobacco, and nod at stupid things. Perfect life might I add.
by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 1:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not once you consider that he plays half his games at Coors.
Q: If not us, who? If not now, when? A: The Batman. And "when you least expect it."
Away: .257/.332/.419 (iso .161)
Prado iso .146 still a good bit more power than Prado.
In baseball, you're supposed to sit on your ass, spit tobacco, and nod at stupid things. Perfect life might I add.
by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 2:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Prado has more power than Prado?
NOW WE CAN’T TRADE HIM!
"If it's F'd up then it's F'd up" --- Gregg Marshall
Prado iso is .146 still more power than Prado. That was smiths line above doesn’t take a genius to understand still more power than Prado was talking about smith.
In baseball, you're supposed to sit on your ass, spit tobacco, and nod at stupid things. Perfect life might I add.
by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 2:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Alright, he’s got more raw power than Prado.
Q: If not us, who? If not now, when? A: The Batman. And "when you least expect it."
Agreed, Prado has better gap power and overall is the better player. I just think we need some more power in the outfield and move Prado back to utility till chip retires. The market for Beltran has reportedly been very weak.
In baseball, you're supposed to sit on your ass, spit tobacco, and nod at stupid things. Perfect life might I add.
by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 2:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
why would you rather have the better power hitter(slightly) over the better player like you said? We have guys that can hit homers, Heyward has 20-30 HR power(he just wasn’t good in 2011, he should rebound hopefully), Prado has 15-20 homer power, Freeman 20-30(doesn’t mean he will hit 30, but will be in the 20-30 range), McCann 24-30, Uggla 30’s, Chipper 10-20. Power isn’t a problem for this team, and Smith isn’t going to magically improve over Prado in that department by too much.
I don’t care if Constanza hit .500 with 30 HRs and 150 RBI in 3 weeks, benching Heyward was a stupid decision.
by justincredubil02 on Oct 24, 2011 9:55 AM EDT
I think you misunderstood I’m not for trading Prado for smith. That would mean a smith/Diaz platoon and I don’t want to see Diaz hardly ever in a game he’s a shell of his former self. I’m advocating keeping Prado moving Jair for prospects and making a run at Beltran for LF.
In baseball, you're supposed to sit on your ass, spit tobacco, and nod at stupid things. Perfect life might I add.
by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 2:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ya, I think I did, sorry bout that.
I don’t care if Constanza hit .500 with 30 HRs and 150 RBI in 3 weeks, benching Heyward was a stupid decision.
by justincredubil02 on Oct 24, 2011 9:55 AM EDT
No worries judging by your post below we are thinking the exact same.
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by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 3:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think getting Beltran to move Prado to a utility role makes sense on a certain level, the potential is there for a big boost at least, I just don’t see Smith having the sort of value over Prado though
Q: If not us, who? If not now, when? A: The Batman. And "when you least expect it."
While it would certainly suck for him, Prado on the bench makes this team so much better. Assuming of course that we get a LF that is at least as good if not better than him.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
More rumors...
I guess it gives us something to talk about. Wren won’t make a move unless the deal is pretty sweet, but I like the shift in interest from Prado to JJ.
Based on what the A's are asking for Gio
The Yankees reportedly balked at Oakland’s demand for Jesus Montero plus either Dellin Betances or Manny Banuelos
I think we should get something pretty good for JJ, probably not Montero + stud pitching prospect level but something good.
P.S. I got that off the SBNation Tiger’s site
The difference...
is that Gio has four years of control, Jurrjens two.
I still like the Smith + Wheeler idea, with other lower prospects filling out the deal. As much as it’s been bandied about how thin starting pitching is right now, look at the 2B market, see Kelly Johnson, and see everyone else. It’s thin as well. I see the two players’ value as being very near even.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Of course
Gio is going to cost much more than JJ. But if Gio is going to cost two stud prospects, we can get atleast 1 for JJ right?
I still think that we could get better than Smith + Wheeler for Jurrjens, whether that means 1 stud straight up for JJ or just a better package. I’m just not a fan of Smith, I think Prado is a better player plain and simple. But, if this is best Wren can get and Wren thinks Wheeler can be a good MLB CF’er(which is very possible) then I would like for Wren to try to squeeze Josh Rutledge – SS in the deal as well. He will be in AA next year, obviously would switch from SS to likely go to 2B with terdo at 3B and Simmons at SS. Rutledge has some potential, be nice to try to nab him in the deal. Obviously I hope we can do better than Smith in the deal, but who knows.
I don’t care if Constanza hit .500 with 30 HRs and 150 RBI in 3 weeks, benching Heyward was a stupid decision.
by justincredubil02 on Oct 24, 2011 9:55 AM EDT
heck
why not just trade for him
Minor
Delgado
Simmons
Wouldnt phase me too much.
by drumzalicious on Dec 7, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Woah
Overvaluing Gio quite a bit.
In baseball, you're supposed to sit on your ass, spit tobacco, and nod at stupid things. Perfect life might I add.
by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 2:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
They could make an offer similar to what they offered the Royals. Jurrjens and Prado for Arenado and Blackmon.
I think we would want more.
That would be trading 2 former All-star players who are still in their prime for 2 non-top 10 prospects.
depends how you wanna look at it. I personally would do JJ and Prado for Arenado and Wheeler in a heartbeat and not think twice about it. But, obviously that would make us a worse team in 2012, but give us two very good looking prospects at positions that we desperately need.
I don’t care if Constanza hit .500 with 30 HRs and 150 RBI in 3 weeks, benching Heyward was a stupid decision.
by justincredubil02 on Oct 24, 2011 9:55 AM EDT
The "worse team in 2012" is the only thing I don't like about it.
I’d rather we stay in strong contention than punt for 2013. But other than that I think you’re right, it wouldn’t be a bad trade.
I don’t always find things on TC exciting and gripping, but when they are, I prefer: Duwanis
by Santaklose11 on Dec 2, 2011 6:08 PM EST
I added a lil more to it in the reply to myself. I think with the extra money it frees up, we could go out and get a Nick Punto(can play all over), Beltran to a 2 year deal(maybe), or try to get Smith added in the deal. Again, the trade itself would make us a worse team in 2012, but the money freed up would leave Wren with many options to try to make the team just as good or better along with having 2 very good prospects from the trade.
I don’t care if Constanza hit .500 with 30 HRs and 150 RBI in 3 weeks, benching Heyward was a stupid decision.
by justincredubil02 on Oct 24, 2011 9:55 AM EDT
I think the only one of those options that is realistic and would help us in 2012
would be if we were able to sign Beltran. I don’t particularly like the idea of banking on that.
Nothing against Punto, but he’s going to be 34 and doesn’t seem like he’d be a plus replacement for Prado. And I doubt the Rockies would toss Smith into that deal for cash.
I don’t always find things on TC exciting and gripping, but when they are, I prefer: Duwanis
by Santaklose11 on Dec 2, 2011 6:08 PM EST
Regardless, this deal would free around $10 million cash to spend on payroll, PLUS getting 2 good looking prospects, especially Arenado. I don’t see how you can go wrong with that if you are the Braves. Of course Punto isn’t near what Prado is, but he is still a quality player than can play all over the place. We would lose some in that department of super utility, no question there, but the potential of signing Beltran would improve LF for us. Beltran is just one FA name, there are other guys out there, guys that you can always trade for. I would not think about giving up the 2012 season, we are still a very good team and should be right there in the thick of the NL East the entire year.
I just think it would be too good to pass up 2 good looking prospects, $10+ mil payroll room. I just feel like we could go out and get a solid utility player and a LF with that money and the team be just as good or better in 2012, along with having two potentially enormously valued prospects starting in 2013 on Opening Day. That’s just me though.
I don’t care if Constanza hit .500 with 30 HRs and 150 RBI in 3 weeks, benching Heyward was a stupid decision.
by justincredubil02 on Oct 24, 2011 9:55 AM EDT
^ This
In baseball, you're supposed to sit on your ass, spit tobacco, and nod at stupid things. Perfect life might I add.
by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 2:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't disagree
just saying that if it were me, I’d want to try to get some sort of sense of how likely we are to land a guy like Beltran with our extra money before I pull the trigger on the trade. That’s all.
I don’t always find things on TC exciting and gripping, but when they are, I prefer: Duwanis
by Santaklose11 on Dec 2, 2011 6:08 PM EST
need to add a lil more. If I were the Braves I would do that trade, not sure if im the Rocks that I do that, probably not. I also think with the money freed up, we could go out and try to maybe sign Beltran to a 2 year deal to play LF, or try to squeeze Smith in the deal from the Rocks. The overall trade itself would make the mlb team worse, but the money that it would free up could potentially make us just as good or better as a team, along with getting very nice prospects that have a shot at contributing in the majors in the very near future.
I don’t care if Constanza hit .500 with 30 HRs and 150 RBI in 3 weeks, benching Heyward was a stupid decision.
by justincredubil02 on Oct 24, 2011 9:55 AM EDT
Arenado will be a top 10 hitting prospect once the new rankings come out, without question.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
OT:
Will any of our guys get into the top 25?
"One thing I’ve learned as a Phillies fan is that a lot of people hate our team and its fans."-commenter on The Good Phight
offensive guys
"One thing I’ve learned as a Phillies fan is that a lot of people hate our team and its fans."-commenter on The Good Phight
No.
We don’t have anyone of that prowess in the system, that I’m aware of.
I think Simmons makes a lot of top 100s, and probably Pastornicky as well. But neither will be close to top 25, if everything the prospect people here say is correct.
On the bright side of things, Teheran, Delgado, and Vizcaino could all be top 25. Really depends on how much everyone likes Vizcaino’s stuff and Delgado’s MLB stint in September.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Thanks
Yeah, I wasn’t too confident we would on the hitting end. But yeah, it will be interesting to see where the pitchers rank.
"One thing I’ve learned as a Phillies fan is that a lot of people hate our team and its fans."-commenter on The Good Phight
And...
aren’t the Rockies looking to move Stewart? It’s not like there is really anything blocking Arenado.
"If it's F'd up then it's F'd up" --- Gregg Marshall
Word is that Arenado will be seriously considered for OD if he has a good Spring Training.
As a Rockies fan as well, I’d like to see roughly a half-season at AA, a month or two at AAA, and a September call-up, if all goes well. On the big league squad outright in 2013.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Trade Jurrjens yes, boras client and will demand premium. There is no trade for prado
right now that shoots out at me that says we come out winning..unless its something unrealistic almost..truth of the matter is we need someone to play Left and back up chipper..thats what prado does. We honestly only really need to bring in a SS, and possibly get a solid CF prospect in return for jurjjens..
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
what i mean is..a couple prospects, based around a solid CF prospect for jurrjens.
The poster formally known as SidGlaus
Ross is a no go for SF. Sign Ross and flip Jair for Colorado prospects! Find a team to take Diaz sign punto and bam we are done!
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by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 3:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Would anyone pull the trigger on Hanson for Wheeler, Arenado, fowler? We could have an outfield of Heyward,Wheeler,Fowler. Arenado at 3b when chip retires.
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by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 3:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
In a second, but Colorado wouldn’t.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Jim Bowden of ESPN
Fredi Gonzalez just told us that the rumors involving Jurrjens and Prado are true because they really need another impact bat
Seth Smith isn’t that impact bat. Either they’re doing this to get a CarGo, which seems far fetched from a Rockies point of view, or they’re doing it to get salary relief and Wheeler + Arenado, and they’re going to use the payroll room to sign a FA LF, I guess someone like a Beltran
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
Oh hell, I just remembered that Fredi Gonzalez represents us. Thanks for that horrible reminder sir.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
Fredi is the very incarnation of subtlety and tact.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
That being said, I can totally imagine Wren reading that and literally facepalming.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Like the hitting coach fiasco
"If it's F'd up then it's F'd up" --- Gregg Marshall
Buster
Source: Hanley Ramirez’s rep asked the Marlins for a restructured deal. MIA upset with this, will now be looking to trade Hanley (more).
Haha classic.
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by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 4:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Here comes the Drew Sutton and Anthony Varvaro for Hanley trade.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll take it. I can care less about his attitude problems, he’s still a top 5 guy in baseball if healthy.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Too much obstacles in the way of this, but dammit that’d be nice.
Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.
I wouldn’t want it.
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by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He’s still a top 5 player in all of baseball, excluding last year of course.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Not in my opinion. Pujols,Braun,Votto,Fielder,Tulo,Kemp,Bautista,Adrian Gonzalez and many more I’d put ahead of him.
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by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 4:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’ll give you Pujols and Tulo, the others are all debatable.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Only debatable ones I could see would be Bautista and Kemp the other men have been lighting it up for some time now.
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by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 4:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You also have to factor in position and defense.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 7, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Rumor on Hanley shot down… Got to love winter meetings.
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by HeywardFTW! on Dec 7, 2011 4:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Jurrjens and Prado for Arenado and Wheeler. Turn around and sign Beltran using the money opened up in the trade. Also go looking for a backup SS. We then have someone in case Chipper goes down for extended time (Arenado), can certainly handle the loss of Jurrjens, and then Wheeler in case Bourn bolts next offseason.
by McCann's the Man on Dec 7, 2011 6:25 PM EST reply actions
see past posts
"What up? We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion. Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things." Again, NOTHING SEXUAL
"I'd rather jerk off a tiger in a phone booth than draft Cam"
-Mel Kiper, Jr.
you guys are like a bunch of pirahnas
by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT
Pete Coors?
http://sportsandgrits.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 8, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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