Blue Jays Interested In Braves' Prado
by gondeee on Dec 5, 2011 1:35 PM EST
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PrintAdd the Blue Jays to the list of teams interested in Atlanta Braves left fielder/third baseman/second baseman Martin Prado. From a Ken Rosenthal tweet at the Winter Meetings:
I get it, the Braves want someone who can hit the ball hard and long, and I guess they don't care about other parts of their offensive (or defensive) game. Don't the Braves already have that in Dan Uggla? They seem fixated on the thumper aspect. It would be strange if three-fourths of the Jays infield were former Braves -- add in Kelly Johnson, if they re-sign him.
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If the Braves weren’t so obsessed with the “thumper aspect” they wouldn’t be trying to trade Prado in the first place.
I hear the Jays have a decent young SS, though he may have some attitude problems and a bad fashion consultant.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 5, 2011 1:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm still holding out hope for Stephen Drew for obvious reasons
^^^^^^
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
Speaking of mistakes from the 2006-07 offseason, the Cubs are getting a bit of interest in left fielder Alfonso Soriano, tweets SI’s Jon Heyman. Soriano, 35, is owed $54MM through 2014 and has a full no-trade clause. I think the Cubs would have to eat over $40MM to move Soriano.
That would leave ~4.6 mil a year left max. Per WAR he was worth 12 mil in ’10 and 5.9 last yr. His LF D is above average and hit 26 hrs last yr.
i got the opposite impression on his defense
Chopmaster: my link is my dad who has watched the braves since I don’t know. he’s 56.
Saw that too.
If we could get him cheap-both in terms of $ and what we have to give up, that’s certainly an option.
Unless Wren is about to pull the blockbuster of the year and fleece the Jays for Jose Bautista
which is highly unlikely at best, I don’t see us matching up with them at all. I suppose we could try to get Colby Rasmus from them, but it would seem odd for the Jays to send him out after just acquiring him.
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
Three-ways are always the best bet.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 5, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
obligatory
TWSS comment…
"If it's F'd up then it's F'd up" --- Gregg Marshall
I'd have interest
in Travis Snider. Not as the main piece of the trade, but as a part of it. Maybe one of those “change of scenery” type of deals for him…Don’t the Jays have Adeiny Hechavarria in the minors? I know he isn’t a “one-year” buffer till Simmons is ready, but besides Jason Barlett who is?
"If it's F'd up then it's F'd up" --- Gregg Marshall
I like Snider but...
I much rather have someone we trust, we already have too many hit or miss guys in our lineup as it is. Bautista would be amazing and to be honest I wouldn’t mind throwing a few good pitchers their way for him. However I’m not really itching to get rid of Prado anyway…in fact why does everyone want to get rid of him so bad, he is easily one of the best hitters on our team.
by Falconzfan284 on Dec 5, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
We would trade anyone if it made the team better.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 5, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Well ya I understand that but...
everyone is really pushing him out the door, trading one of our best hitters isn’t necessarily going to make us better. As many prospects as we have why wouldn’t we just trade them for a “thumper” left fielder if that’s really what we want.
by Falconzfan284 on Dec 5, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody is pushing him out the door. All of the rumors are speculation and due diligence. He’s not going to be moved unless someone overpays for him.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 5, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I have no problem with this philosophy
but the rumors of a Prado for Seth Smith + CF prospect, for example, don’t seem to make the team better IMO
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
Exactly
And if I were Prado I would be pissed I’m in every single trade rumor.
by Falconzfan284 on Dec 5, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I would take it as a compliment.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 5, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
That’s why it’s a rumor and we’re not printing Seth Smith jerseys right now.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 5, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I know
To me, it seems like all the speculation on moving Prado is based on the fact that we have Matt Diaz, and if we can get someone to platoon with him, that takes care of LF. That’s not something I’m buying. I would rather have Prado out there everyday. Just one man’s opinion though.
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
No. You trade Prado because you want to improve his position. The trade involving Prado doesn’t necessarily have to bring back the player that will represent the sought after improvement, because by simply removing his salary, along with Jurrjens’ potentially, we will then be able to afford said player.
We can’t just sign somebody or trade for an expensive player. Money has to be moved around first. And it has nothing to do with Matt Diaz.
This is my corn. You people are guests in my corn.
That makes the team better long-term...
A Smith/Diaz platoon works for 2012, Wheeler/Blackmon would provide 5-6 years of service in CF. There’s also a possibility that Smith has been mis-platooned, as his minor league numbers didn’t have a huge detrimental split against LHP and he’s only received about 200 PA against LHP in his career. Smith also has an extra year of service time besides.
Unless you’re looking to sign Bourn long-term, an expensive and somewhat risky proposition, the deal definitely improves the teams chances in 2013 and beyond.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
I think we want Wheeler and the Rockies won't give him up
and that’s why that deal hasn’t been made. I’m not sold on Blackmon being anything more than a 4th outfielder.
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
I think about the same. Good deal long-term. A lot of the Rockies fans like Wheeler, but some have Blackmon ahead of of him. I dunno, but I do like Wheeler’s power out of the CF spot. Will probably destroy CO Springs next season, which could raise his value even more.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Yeah, that's a crappy deal
I wouldn’t mind trading Prado, and he might be our best bet to move someone to improve the team, but a deal like that doesn’t do much.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
The Blue Jays are still very high on Snider. I doubt they would trade him for Prado alone. Also, Hechavarria is looking more and more like a bust.
Maybe
They’d get the best package possible from Toronto and then flip part of it in a 3-way trade? But again, who has a SS that’s on the market for a year besides the Fathers? No me gusta Jason Barlett!
"If it's F'd up then it's F'd up" --- Gregg Marshall
not happening
Pirates have no reason to trade him
You won't always agree with me...Because sometimes you're wrong.
by JonnyBravesFan on Dec 5, 2011 8:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Except that they are very young, and don’t really expect to compete before he becomes expensive. I think it depends on the Pirates belief on whether he will sign a long term deal or not. If he doesn’t want to, then trade him for some stud prospects to go with the very promising prospects they have now.
Not saying it will happen, just more of a pipe dream for a lot of us.
Not until we trade for Kemp, too.
I don’t always find things on TC exciting and gripping, but when they are, I prefer: Duwanis
by Santaklose11 on Dec 2, 2011 6:08 PM EST
the Marlins are getting him too
Loria is trolling on Talking Chop
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
I imagine the Jays are looking at Prado for 3B...
so that JB can move back to RF where he probably belongs. I swear, unless the return is Rasmus-like I just don’t see how this is a good fit. You lose quality PA’s at 3B in Chipper’s absence.
Of course, you would start a literal “track meet” in the OF in 2012 with Colby Rasmus, Michael Bourn, and Jason Heyward as your 7, 8, and 9 position players…and have Rasmus available to move to CF if we trade away Bourn at the 2012 deadline.
"Reach down in there...TURN THAT DAMN THING UP!" - Coach Paul Johnson
The Blue Jays have Brett Lawrie ready to go at 3rd base
Prado likely to play 2nd if he were to go to Toronto, although I suppose he could play LF as well if they re-sign Kelly Johnson
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
I'd take Lawrie for Prado!
"If it's F'd up then it's F'd up" --- Gregg Marshall
A "Mark Hamill" laugh or just a chuckle?
"If it's F'd up then it's F'd up" --- Gregg Marshall
Wren is gonna be on 680 the fan at 2:30 for those that want to listen
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
Still open to bringing in a veteran SS
but they like Pastornicky, and seems unlikely they will add a major FA for that position. They like the speed and athleticism he would bring to the team
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
Beware of the pipedream ahead
Prado, Jurrjens, Vizcaino, Betancourt, Terdo for Bautista. Would that even come close?
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Dec 5, 2011 2:33 PM EST reply actions
I would take it if I were Toronto, he’s not exactly young and is about to make a ton of money.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 5, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
How about this...
I’m too lazy to look, but assuming we can afford Bautista’s contract, the folks at Capitol had a pretty good idea. The Jay’s are looking hard for an affordable closer. How about: Jurrjens, Prado, Venters for Bautista?
"Let's just play the damn games already!" said by Me
by I Saw Buzz Beaned on Dec 5, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
He signed an extension in February for 5 years and $65mil with a club option for a sixth.
If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02
by king of games on Dec 5, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
Even if the Jays were willing to trade Bautista (they aren’t) that package wouldn’t come close. Think more along the lines of Hanson, Teheran, Bethancourt, Medlen and Prado. In other words, the Braves would need to strip their roster to get him.
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You'd think I was Travis Tritt struttin my FINE ASS on down to Florida
In other news....
The Blue Jays have decided to become a much more advanced Royals style team, by getting Good Braves Players BEFORE we’re done with them….
Melky was a fail, but that was Melky’s fault, or the fault of Atlanta for having awesome cheeseburgers and ribs.
by Broccoman on Feb 21, 2011 4:11 PM EST
I get the mocking reference to "thumper", but...
we do need more slugging and higher OPS from the outfield. Of course, we’ll have that if JHey comes back up to his potential next year, and Prado doesn’t get more weird injuries.
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
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