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John "The Boat" Rocker

I coined that nickname for John Rocker long ago, though it didn't stick (but it should have). Now once again John Rocker has opened an orifice on his body and produced a substance that turns most people off. I'm not going to spend a lot of time on Rocker, but this is Braves-related, so I might as well post it and get it out of the way. This quote comes via USA Today:

Of course, Rocker says now, he tested positive. Because, he says, "Let's be honest. Who wasn't (using steroids)?"

When asked if it made him a better pitcher, Rocker said:

"No. Can I throw 3 or 4 mph harder because of it? Yes. Was my breaking ball better because of it? No. The reason was (for taking it) with my teammates and their confidence laying on my shoulders, with the coaching staff and their confidence on my shoulders, with the millions of Atlanta Braves fans, I am not going to step on that mound with that kind of responsibility with my gun half loaded. Knowing the people I am going to be facing, I know what they're doing; I am not coming to the mound halfcocked."

I think we all got the impression that Rocker went to the mound a complete cock (not halfcocked).

For the record, I did enjoy Rocker's enthusiasm on the mound in the beginning. I even enjoyed watching his return to New York after those comments he made in Sports Illustrated. That's as close as baseball comes to "Thunderdome" style justice.

Hopefully we can now forget about John Rocker. I still think he should go into Pro Wrestling.

As for his own career, yeah, Rocker has a few regrets.

"I wish," he says, "37-year old John Rocker could go back and punch 23-year old John Rocker in his face."

He's not the only one.

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When I saw that article saying "John Rocker Admits to Steroid Use"

The first thought that crossed my mind was “Duh”.

https://twitter.com/#!/kreese555

by kreese555 on Dec 13, 2011 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

Did you make this account

just for this comment?

You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02

no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster

"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."

by abraves257 on Dec 14, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

No, he's been around for a while

but I will admit that my first thought when I saw the article was “I wonder what Rocker4Cy thinks about this…”

I don’t always find things on TC exciting and gripping, but when they are, I prefer: Duwanis
by Santaklose11 on Dec 2, 2011 6:08 PM EST

by duwanis on Dec 14, 2011 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Call me crazy

I always loved Rocker, even after the SI quotes.

Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)

by ATLandUNC on Dec 13, 2011 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

How can you not love our own version of Kenny Powers?

Lead off walks usually lead to runs, unless they don't. -Joe Simpson

If you don't like the way the Atlanta Braves are playing, then you don't like baseball. -Chuck Tanner

by Chapel420 on Dec 13, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Will Ferrell basically said that in an interview when the show first came out

Lead off walks usually lead to runs, unless they don't. -Joe Simpson

If you don't like the way the Atlanta Braves are playing, then you don't like baseball. -Chuck Tanner

by Chapel420 on Dec 13, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I quick Google search and I found this gem...

Will Ferrell is John Rocker

http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/snl-will-ferrell-is-john-rocker/5XnvNroJGOhzVSq9d6hAaQ

Lead off walks usually lead to runs, unless they don't. -Joe Simpson

If you don't like the way the Atlanta Braves are playing, then you don't like baseball. -Chuck Tanner

by Chapel420 on Dec 13, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't believe a mention of Rocker's greatest hits...

…doesn’t involve the mooning in LA. That was classic. I am not normally a fan of any idiot who runs onto the field, but if I were the judge on his case, I would have had a good laugh and gone very lightly on him.

by cavebird on Dec 13, 2011 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

I’m so confused. Why does John Rocker’s official website johnrocker.net have a manifesto about illegal immigrants under the “headlines” section?" Wait back up, why the fuck does John Rocker’s website have a headlines section in the first place?

Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit.

by GumpBrave on Dec 13, 2011 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

Back it up a bit further....

WTF does John Rocker have a website?

If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02

by king of games on Dec 13, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Or—-WTF does John Rocker exist?

by Ivan the Great on Dec 13, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF Magnets?

How do they work?

My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.

by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

by Bronn on Dec 13, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Pelican.

If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02

by king of games on Dec 13, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Makes me wonder

how many of his teammates were doing the same thing.

“Let’s be honest. Who wasn’t (using steroids)?”

by WeStillHaveBobby on Dec 13, 2011 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

Got the impression he did it to keep up with the competition

but who knows. It’s John Rocker.

I don’t always find things on TC exciting and gripping, but when they are, I prefer: Duwanis
by Santaklose11 on Dec 2, 2011 6:08 PM EST

by duwanis on Dec 13, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

There are some guys I really suspect were heavily on the juice during the run,

Then again, if Dan Majerle can flunk a roids test, anyone can.

by Broccoman on Dec 13, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Lopez

Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)

by ATLandUNC on Dec 13, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

M Giles
C Jones

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Dec 14, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

How dare you.

If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02

by king of games on Dec 14, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Are we *really* going to have this conversation again?

Seems like this comes up once a year.

1. Somebody claims Chipper had to have used PEDs because his MVP year was a departure from the norm.
2. Someone else points out that his MVP year wasn’t that much of a departure from the norm, and isn’t unusual for great players through baseball history (i.e. well before the steroid era).
3. Person from step (1) says “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.”
4. ???
5. Profit.

I don’t always find things on TC exciting and gripping, but when they are, I prefer: Duwanis
by Santaklose11 on Dec 2, 2011 6:08 PM EST

by duwanis on Dec 14, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

You omitted Ken Caminiti as a teammate that year

and Chipper’s thicker, more muscular frame that season.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 14, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t Chipper’s injury gremlin start to show his himself shortly thereafter?

- ChillyMutt

by ChillyMutt on Dec 14, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

My bad

I was in such a rush to summarize the pointless argument that I omitted a few of the “signs.”

I don’t always find things on TC exciting and gripping, but when they are, I prefer: Duwanis
by Santaklose11 on Dec 2, 2011 6:08 PM EST

by duwanis on Dec 14, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy

I don’t always find things on TC exciting and gripping, but when they are, I prefer: Duwanis
by Santaklose11 on Dec 2, 2011 6:08 PM EST

by duwanis on Dec 14, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

One of the best Rocker moments

was the playoffs in ‘98 against the Padres. For some reason he got to bat, and he got on base. Don’t remember exactly how it happened, but he came around to score. When he slid in at home, he intentionally slid very late and came in real high with his spikes right into the catcher’s chest. Loved the intensity. Too bad he was a complete idiot.

by bbaker68 on Dec 13, 2011 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

I totally remember that, although I thought he came in standing up, trying to bowl over the catcher.

by No Es Muerto Escuela on Dec 13, 2011 7:13 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Yeah — he actually did bowl over the catcher. It’s even referenced in this game write-up:

by No Es Muerto Escuela on Dec 13, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony graffanino ftw

I thought hurricane season was over........

by bravesguy311 on Dec 13, 2011 9:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That guy was one of my favorite players.

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Dec 15, 2011 2:21 AM EST up reply actions  

John Rocker makes me so sad. Because he was always ridiculously cool to me. Of course, I’m white and Southern. What an idiot. Shut your mouth, it’s been over a decade since anyone cared about your opinion, and even back then it was ignorant.

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-C-B-Wilkins/dp/1449578454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257720610&sr=1-1
www.dropoutproductions.com

by cbwilk on Dec 15, 2011 2:22 AM EST reply actions  

One of the greatest wastes of talent since Denny McLain

The shame of it is, Rocker had it in him to be a great pitcher. At one point, a few months before the New York blow-up, Tom Glavine had taught John a changeup. The first time John used it in a game, batters were walking away shaking their heads, and even Don Sutton was stunned: “Whoa! Where’d that come from?”

"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt

by Cornutt on Dec 16, 2011 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

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