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BREAKING: @Royals acquire LHPs Jonathan Sanchez and Ryan Verdugo from @SFGiants in exchange for OF Melky Cabrera.

 

 

I don't love Sanchez, but wow just hard to believe Melky had any trade value after his stint here.  Certainly wouldn't expected enough to get a quality pitcher like Sanchez and another player. Shame we couldn't have spun him off for something like this.

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If only we'd just kept Melky another year...

Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
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by duwanis on Nov 7, 2011 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

Plus their need for JJ just went way down.

"Forget Roy Halladay or Clayton Kershaw or Cliff Lee, the NL Cy Young Award should go to O’Ventrel." - David Schoenfield, ESPN.com, 8/19/11

by carpengui on Nov 7, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

There are other teams, and JJ will be more valuable at the deadline. Rosterspace wise I’d rather see him traded this offseason though.

by Broccoman on Nov 7, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll go back to my thought in the Payroll Thread this morning.

JJ and Prado to Texas for Nelson Cruz. Thank you. Please drive through!

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin

by DolphinNation on Nov 7, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

SI_JonHeyman
Braves seek greinke like deal for jurrjens. Can’t blame ’em. Teams that could play include col nyy tex kc bos tor balt cubs

by nuftjedi on Nov 7, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Which means JJ is going to be with us another year. Going to take one really dumb team to think JJ is worth anything close to Greinke deal.

by ATLtruth on Nov 7, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian Sabean should be drawn and quartered

this has to be a joke

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 7, 2011 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

Jonathan Sanchez…is that you?

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin

by DolphinNation on Nov 7, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel bad for TheLetter

he already had to go through the Melkman once. Now he gets doubled down on it.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 7, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope SF has some great Cheeseburger joints. I also hope he becomes best friends with the Panda.

I want to see 500 lbs rolling into Atlanta next year.

by Broccoman on Nov 7, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

SF Burgers

Plenty of great places for the Melk-Man to eat his way through SF.

For starters, I’d recommend the Burger Bar in Union Square, followed by late night meatball sandwiches at Tommy’s Joint. He’ll be pushing three bills by February.

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Nov 7, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Our Brilliant "GM" said it best

Its going to be The Kung Fu Panda and Hong Kong Phooey! Surely the Giants will now be unstoppable.

It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.

by thenightstallion on Nov 7, 2011 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah there are a bunch of Giants fans over at MLBTR

rejoicing about how they won this one…LOL…

I am absolutely baffled how anyone could consider trading a pitcher to get Melky Cabrera as somehow a win….unless that pitcher was Scott Proctor.

All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,

by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT

Strong Side / Weak Side: Chipper Jones

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/chipper-jones,8431/

by Santaklose11 on Nov 7, 2011 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

I dunno

I’d have done Lowe for Melky, straight up.

Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
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by duwanis on Nov 7, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

To think about it

Melky could have, I suppose, been a back to the back up to the alternate platoon guy….if it freed up 5 million to work with.
…wait, nah, if Prado turns it around then there is no platoon.

All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,

by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT

Strong Side / Weak Side: Chipper Jones

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/chipper-jones,8431/

by Santaklose11 on Nov 7, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Straight up, i.e. no cash

I’d take Melky back onto the team if it meant we freed up another $15MM of payroll. Just let him sit on the 60-day with some mysterious digestive issue.

Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
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by duwanis on Nov 7, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

They rejoiced for getting Melky?? If they think they got a good deal, maybe they should have added Brian Wilson and acquired Frenchy too, then. Winnnnarr!!

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin

by DolphinNation on Nov 7, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

The people that should love this more is....

Opposing hitters cuz with Melk patroling center now, the gaps just got a whole lot bigger. I’m prediciting B-Mac hits multiple triples when the braves go to san fran, i’m sure he can’t wait to show off his wheels!!!!!

by AUbar07 on Nov 7, 2011 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

This

Triples Alley just became a lot wider.

If Albert played in the AFL, they’d have to rename it the AZ/NM Fall League, based on where his homers landed.

by Yakker on Nov 7, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Gonna have to rename it to Inside The Park Homers Alley.

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by cbwilk on Nov 7, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Pun intended?

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Nov 7, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Giants were considering to non-tender Sanchez

so it’s not that much of a surprised that they move him for Melky

unfortunately for the Braves, Lorenzo Cain is now either more expensive or unlikely to get moved at all

by LEastCoastBears on Nov 7, 2011 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

Uh

Why do we care about Cain, exactly? We can do better.

Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
www.duwanis.com

by duwanis on Nov 7, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

"First!"...Who gives a damn if you are first

by bighop on Nov 7, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

We’re going to overpay Bourn for sure now.

by ATLtruth on Nov 7, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather overpay Bourn

than replace him with Cain.

Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
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by duwanis on Nov 7, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair point. Hopefully Braves don’t overpay by that much and Bourn keeps his speed.

by ATLtruth on Nov 7, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That's all they could get for MVP?

Royals got fleeced.

We'll trade you for Cheryl Tunt. Tome again? Still nothing?

by bpk228480 on Nov 7, 2011 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

See all the comments bashing the Giants, but Sanchez isn’t good either. Mediocre for mediocre is just mediocre.

by ATLtruth on Nov 7, 2011 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

"He crosses home plate..."

…when there’s a bucket of chicken behind it.

Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
www.duwanis.com

by duwanis on Nov 7, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I think he was referring to the dinner plate

as in “he crosses the plate” before devouring everything on it. When it comes to offense, it has come down to praying in San Fran these days.

Then again with Lincecum’s ungodly abilities they need the balance…

All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,

by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT

Strong Side / Weak Side: Chipper Jones

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/chipper-jones,8431/

by Santaklose11 on Nov 8, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

So it's like some catholic thing?

Explains the weird throw into centerfield. He was just too hasty trying to go from wallet to watch.

Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
www.duwanis.com

by duwanis on Nov 8, 2011 7:18 AM EST up reply actions  

All just PR noise. I was just trying to say Sanchez isn’t anything special either so its not like they gave up much of anything.

by ATLtruth on Nov 7, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

True

but I get the feeling he ends up like he was for us, starting a whole bunch of games in CF for them and taking on a significant role.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 7, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The Giants won this trade.

Cabrera was coming off a nice season, .305/.339/.470 with 18 HR’s and 20 SB’s.

Sanchez has great stuff but hasn’t put it together at all. He’ll be 29 and is getting expensive. He’s still never thrown 200 innings and has control issues. He wasn’t a dominant pitcher is a pitchers park and if he couldn’t succeed there he probably won’t in Kansas City either.

by jack dein on Nov 7, 2011 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

If they were really smart they’d put him in the bullpen and let him dominate for an inning at a time.

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by cbwilk on Nov 7, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

The guy has dynamite stuff but has massive control problems. Could be a really good arm in the bullpen though.

by jack dein on Nov 7, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Or he could come out and walk every guy he faces, which is the last thing you’d want a starter to do. Either way, at this point it seems like he doesn’t have much of a future as a starter.

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by cbwilk on Nov 7, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think anybody won this trade.

Given the arbitration salaries they are going to get, neither of the players are probably worth their contracts and either could have been non-tender candidates. Melky is coming off a good year, but that will push the salary higher without guaranteeing good production next year. Sanchez isn’t, but he’ll still get too much at arbitration and I am sure the Giants were going to non-tender him. Royals probably have the bigger overpay here, but they got the mediocre prospect, too. I call it a draw.

by cavebird on Nov 8, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

welp

on to the next team. Apparently the Braves are asking for a Grienke like return for J. J.

by drumzalicious on Nov 8, 2011 12:39 AM EST reply actions  

And that is not happening. Not even KC is dumb enough to think JJ is anywhere close to Grienke in value.

by ATLtruth on Nov 8, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

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