Atlanta Braves 2012 Top Ten Right Handed Starting Pitching Prospects
1. Julio Teheran - B/T: R/R, Born: 01/27/1991, Ht: 6'2", Wt:175 - What is there to say about Julio Teheran that hasn't already been said? After an injury plagued, ineffective pro debut as a 17 year old in 2007, he's steadily dominated, rapidly and efficiently climbing the organizational ladder, spending the bulk of this season at AAA as a 20 year old, posting a 15-3 record, a 2.55 ERA, a 1.18 WHIP, and 7.6 K/9 in 144.2 innings, a performance that earned him both the International League Rookie of the Year and Pitcher of the Year awards. He is widely considered the top right handed pitching prospect in all of baseball, and only Rays lefty Matt Moore stands as competition for the top overall pitching prospect. Some prefer Moore's strikeout ability and left handedness, but Teheran is just as skilled, and dominated at a higher level, playing a full year and a half younger than Moore.
Accolades and debates aside, Teheran is an outstanding pitcher, with a fastball that can reach the upper 90s, but stays mostly in the mid 90s where the sacrificed speed is replaced with sharp movement. He pairs it with an above average changeup and a looping curveball, the only pitch he struggles with. When the curve is working he's nearly unhittable, but when he can't find the feel for it he struggles. Teheran has filled out some since joining the organization, and he's only 20 so there's reason to believe he can add a bit more weight, but he's still slight of frame, which will always lead to some questions about his durability, though that hasn't been an issue since his first pro season. He uses his lankiness effectively to add deception to his delivery, which resembles a coiled spring uncoiling. Even with the obvious physical skills, what really makes him so lethal on the mound is his mind, which is sharp and receptive. He's a hard worker and a good listener, and has a strong desire to be the best.
Teheran made his Major League debut this season, making spot starts on May 7th and 18th, finishing the year with a 5.03 ERA and a 1.48 WHIP in 19.2 innings over 5 appearances, including 3 starts. At the moment he's poised to enter Spring Training in a competition with Mike Minor for the 5th spot Atlanta's rotation, but there's the distinct possibility a trade of one of the team's veteran starters could assure him a spot on the team. There's little left for him to prove in AAA, so it's unlikely the team would send him back even if there isn't a spot in the Major League rotation. He could be an immensely effective reliever, even if it's only temporary. Regardless of how things play out at the start of the 2012 season, Teheran is a true gem and will likely be a stalwart in the Atlanta Braves rotation for years to come.
2. Randall Delgado - B/T: R/R, Born: 02/09/1990, Ht: 6'3", Wt: 200 - In any other organization, Delgado would be a rare and special gem that fans would have been drooling over for years, but in the Braves organization he's been constantly overshadowed by Julio Teheran. Well dear Braves fans, start drooling. Delgado had an All-Star year for AA Mississippi, posting a 5-5 record, a 3.84 ERA, a 1.38 WHIP, and 8.4 K/9 in 117.1 innings, then followed it up with a respectable stint in AAA, with a 4.15 ERA, a 1.39 WHIP, and 10.4 K/9 in 21.2 innings with Gwinnett. He made spot starts for Atlanta on June 17th and August 16th, then spent all of September in the rotation, posting a 2.52 ERA and a 1.28 WHIP in 25 innings, one of the few bright performances in the midst of the team's historic late season collapse.
Delgado works his fastball in the low to mid 90s, pairing it with a changeup and a curveball, both of which are above average offerings. Despite his stuff, he rarely dominates, working through his starts with meticulous care, attacking hitters but allowing them to put the ball in play. When he struggles it's because he attempts to be too fine with his repertoire, falling behind hitters, leading to too many walks. It's a rare problem with a young pitcher, but the Braves may actually have to work on making him more aggressive with his superior stuff. Delgado is big and durable, and it's easy to envision him being a workhorse in Atlanta's rotation for years to come.
Ideally, Delgado's fine September would be enough to earn him a spot in Atlanta's rotation to start the 2012 season, but it's more likely that Mike Minor and Julio Teheran will be given a chance ahead of him. He only made 4 starts at AAA, so he could certainly use more time at that level to refine his game. He's likely to begin the season in Gwinnett's rotation, waiting until the logjam of top tier young pitching unclogs enough to give him an opportunity. Like Teheran, he has a real shot at becoming a perennial member of Atlanta's rotation for years to come.
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3. Zeke Spruill - B/T: S/R, Born: 09/11/1989, Ht: 6'4", Wt: 184 - Not much could have gone worse for Spruill in 2010, as he pitched poorly and then missed several months after breaking his hand punching a concrete wall in a fit of frustration.That was an unfortunate followup to a 2009 that saw him earn a month long demotion to the Gulf Coast League in response to repeatedly breaking team rules.Coming into the 2011 season, Spruill's career was at a crossroads, grow up, work hard, and realize the potential the Braves saw in him, or continue to make immature mistakes and likely find himself out of professional baseball before the end of the year. Fortunately for the Braves, he committed himself to becoming a professional, and flourished, posting a 3.19 ERA and a 1.01 WHIP in 129.2 innings for High A Lynchburg, then following that with a 3.20 ERA and a 1.38 WHIP in 45 innings with AA Mississippi.
Braves Hall Of Famer Paul Snyder was fond of saying the team looked for high school pitchers whose shoulders resembled a coat hanger, with Kevin Millwood being a prime example of this, and Spruill is exactly that kind of pitcher. The biggest reason Snyder looked for coat hanger pitchers was their durability, and Spruill proved his durability this year, tossing 6 complete games and averaging over 6 innings per start. That durability is key, as his stuff, a low 90s fastball paired with a changeup and a slider, is only average. What he lacks in stuff, he makes up for with a bulldog mentality, attacking hitters, forcing them to put the ball in play so his defense can make outs. He'll return to AA to start 2012, and there's an outside shot he could see time with Atlanta at some point during the year. More likely, he'll spend the bulk of the season with Mississippi before moving up to finish the year with AAA Gwinnett, giving him a great shot at being a big contributor in Atlanta in 2013.
4. JR Graham - B/T: R/R, Born: 01/14/1990, Ht: 6'0", Wt: 185 - The Braves felt like they got a steal by getting Graham in the 4th round of this year's draft, since some experts had him ranked as highly as first rounder Sean Gilmartin. When he was drafted, it was assumed he would work as a reliever, because of his upper 90s fastball, and he was successful in that role at the outset, posting a 1.46 ERA and a 1.38 WHIP while striking out 13 over 12.1 relief innings to start his career with Rookie level Danville. But, he finished the year in the rotation, with a 5-1 record, a 1.79 ERA, and a 1.06 WHIP in 45.1 innings over 8 starts, and ended up winning the Appy League ERA title with a 1.72. While his fastball is special, his secondary pitches need work, though the early returns from his pro debut are encouraging. Graham is a hard worker who constantly earns the praise and respect of his coaches. Even if he falters as a starter, he'd still make a dominant reliever, and with the Braves' current depth of starting pitching they can afford to let him develop at his own pace. He'll likely start the 2012 season with Low A Rome, though a great spring could vault him into High A Lynchburg's rotation.
5. David Hale - B/T: R/R, Born: 09/27/1987, Ht: 6'2", Wt: 200 - Hale began the 2010 season in Low A Rome's rotation, but struggled mightily, posting a 9.00 ERA in 7 starts. He finished the year with a 2.16 ERA in 21 relief appearances, not only saving his season, but restoring confidence in his future. That confidence was tested at the start of this season, as he began the year by putting up a 5.64 ERA and a 1.79 WHIP in 22.1 relief innings for High A Lynchburg. He was moved into the team's rotation and ended up pitching well, with a 3.66 ERA and a 1.22 WHIP in 78.2 innings over 13 starts. At this point, it's anyone's guess as to what the future holds for Hale. Is he the guy who's a solid pitcher, utilizing a high 90s fastball, a deceptive changeup, and a sweeping slider to stymy hitters, or is he the guy who allows run after run, lacking control on his fastball and feel for his secondary pitches? And is he a starter or a reliever? Hale will be 24 years old next year, with only 210.2 professional innings under his belt. Because of his age and his late season success, the Braves will likely be aggressive and promote him to AA Mississippi to start 2012. Ideally he finished the year in the rotation, working his way toward a job at the back of the Major League rotation in a few years, but it's just as likely he finishes next year in Gwinnett's bullpen, mowing down hitters and on the cusp of a Major League promotion. Hale is a promising, perplexing, and frustrating prospect.
6. Jean Carlos Gil - B/T: R/R, Born: 10/12/1990, Ht: 6'2", Wt: 160 - Gil had an outstanding professional debut in the Dominican Summer League in 2010, with a 1.89 ERA, a 0.95 WHIP, 8.9 K/9, 0.9 BB/9 and 9.4 K/BB in 66.2 innings, then followed it up with an impressive US debut this season, posting a 2.91 ERA, a 1.19 WHIP, 8.7 K/9, 1.7 BB/9, and 5.3 K/BB in 65 innings in the Gulf Coast League. Like most Latin prospects, the Venezuelan is rail thin, but he'll be just 21 at the start of the 2012 season, so there's time for him to fill out. Until then, he puts his lankiness to good use, slinging his fastball into the mid 90s and getting good break on his offspeed pitches. Gil will move up to Low A Rome to start next year, and there's a good chance that he's going to rocket up the Braves' top prospect list in the next few years.
7. Mauricio Cabrera - B/T: R/R, Born: 09/22/1993, Ht: 6'2", Wt: 180 - Cabrera was the Braves top signing on the international market in the summer of 2010, as the team plucked the then 16 year old out of the Dominican Republic. He made his professional debut this summer in the Dominican Summer League, and while the numbers weren't impressive, a 1-5 record, a 4.30 ERA and a 1.43 WHIP in 52.1 innings, the Braves were happy with his progress and look forward to bringing him to the Gulf Coast League in 2012. At this point, Cabrera doesn't possess an impressive fastball, only just barely touching 90 with it, but his secondary pitches are incredibly advanced, including an above average curveball and a plus plus changeup. He'll only be 18 next season, giving him plenty of years to develop as a pitcher, fill out, and add some oomph to his repertoire. Down the line, Cabrera could become one of the team's top prospects.
8. Abraham Espinsoa - B/T: R/R, Born: 06/03/1993, Ht: 6'1", Wt: 175 - Espinosa made his professional debut in 2010 in the Dominican Summer League, just after his 17th birthday, and the Panamanian put up a 1.41 ERA and a 1.01 WHIP in 70 innings. He returned to the DSL this season, finishing with a 2.15 ERA and a 1.06 WHIP in 58.2 innings, giving him an impressive 1.75 ERA and a 1.03 WHIP in 128.2 innings in two years at that level. At the start of next year's Gulf Coast League season, he'll have just turned 19, giving him plenty of time to continue to develop as a pitcher. He has plenty of room to fill out in his body, which should push his fastball into the mid 90s and allow him to continue to eat up innings. Like Gil and Cabrera, Espinosa is a promising prospect who could one day be the gem of the Braves organization.
9. Lucas La Point - B/T: R/R, Born: 03/30/1991, Ht: 6'3", Wt: 215 - The Braves drafted La Point out of high school in the 23rd round of the 2009 draft, and he struggled in his first two years, with a 4.15 ERA and a 1.81 ERA in 26 innings in the GCL in 2009, and a 4.47 ERA and a 1.21 WHIP in 56.1 innings in 2010 for Rookie level Danville. He returned to Danville this year and became more adept at limiting runs, posting a 2.19 ERA and a 1.20 WHIP in 53.1 innings. La Point has a big, strong body that allows him to be durable, and while his pitches are only average, he has a workhorse mentality that allows him to get the most out of his ability. He'll head to Low A Rome as a 21 year to start 2012, hoping to build off his improvements from this season.
10. David Filak - B/T: R/R, Born: 11/24/1989, Ht: 6'4", Wt: 220 - After being selected in the 4th round of the 2010 draft, injuries limited Filak's professional debut, but he still pitched well, posting a 2.42 ERA, a 1.12 WHIP, and 9.3 K/9 in 26 innings for Rookie level Danville. He began 2011 with Low A Rome, but struggled mightily, allowing a 7.54 ERA, a 1.96 WHIP, and 6.6 BB/9 in 45.1 innings. He was sent back down to Danville at the end of June, and still struggled, putting up a 5.06 ERA and a 1.55 WHIP in 58.2 innings, though he did cut his BB/9 down to 2.9. He did finish the year strong, with a1.14 ERA and a 1.18 WHIP in 23.2 innings over his last 5 starts. Filak is a strong, big bodied pitcher who is incredibly durable, and his stuff is well above average, as his fastball sits in the mid 90s and he has a deceptive curveball, but he struggles with his command. When he's off his game none of his pitches work, his fastball typically gets left up in the zone and his breaking pitches simply don't break. If he can build off of his great finish when he returns to Rome next season as a 22 year old, he has the potential to have a breakout year, and he has the kind of skills that could make him a top prospect, but if he continues to struggle with his delivery and control he'll become just another tantalizing, frustrating prospect.
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You called Teheran a she!!
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by HeywardFTW! on Nov 3, 2011 9:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
No problem! Great list, several pitchers here like the Gil guy I had no clue about. It looks like we very well could have a new bunch of elite prospects once our current ones all make it to the majors.
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by HeywardFTW! on Nov 3, 2011 10:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Paul Clemens
Would he have registered at #3 or behind Spruill at #4?
Mauricio Cabrera’s repetoire sounds a lot like Kris Medlen’s, but if he fills out he could possibly add a few mph’s to that fastball. As for him, JCG, and Espinosa…were these guys high-priced international FA signings (along the lines of Teheran) or more modest signings (and our scouting paying dividends again)?
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I would have had Clemens right behind Spruill, but if he had finished the year as well as he started it there’s a chance he could have been ahead of him. Spruill is a more polished pitcher and less likely to fail, while Clemens has the kind of raw stuff that could make him a star, but still needs a lot of work on his game and endurance.
The Braves signed Teheran for 850K, I think Cabrera was around 600K, and I think Gil and Espinosa were signed for about that same money. So yes they were along the lines of Teheran, but none of them were really high-priced.
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Thanks as always...
Looking forward to the LH SP prospect list as well, and I’ll probably have the same question about Oberholtzer.
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by TBuzz on Nov 3, 2011 10:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't be opposed to give Vizcaino one last shot at starting this season in the minors
by another simpsons avatar on Nov 3, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions
Almost guarantee he gets it
the bullpen thing was to preserve innings, as he’s proven injury prone. With plenty of bullpen options in line under Kimbrel and Venters, like Medlen, Martinez, Varvaro, and Hoover, it makes no sense to keep him in the bullpen when he was so much potential as a starter. So, you send him back to AAA to keep working on his stuff, build endurance, and if he struggles or the need arises for a relief arm, you can always bring him up to the pen then.
But it makes little sense not to have him begin next season with Teheran or Delgado headlining the Gwinnett rotation.
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I think 2012 will be the same as 2011...
Start, start, start, September call-up as a reliever.
And why not?? It won’t count against service time…I think you have to give him at least one more shot at being in the rotation, for his sake as well as the team’s. He’s still as young as the other guys, just a little farther behind due to injuries. The Braves still have plenty of time to decide what they want to do with him.
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It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
If Kimbrel crapped out, and we need a closer
I could see the benefit of keeping his stuff in the pen and using him like the Rangers did Feliz. But with Kimbrel and Venters owning the back end, and so many quality options setting up before them, there’s just no need. Ultimately, he may be a relief arm, and he projects to be excellent at it. But he has the stuff and control to also be an excellent starter, which would be immensely more valuable than a relief arm.
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Dammit man
Don’t even discuss such a possibility, you’ll jinx him.
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I had recently suggested that the Braves should have Vizcaino as part of an absolutely dominating bullpen from day 1 of the 2012 season, but really I have to agree that that is simply not necessary, would not even necessarily benefit the team even in the short term, and would thus be very obviously be a mistake. He has every bit as much potential to be an excellent starting pitcher as Delgado has, and he would obviously be much more valuable in that role.
Teheran, Delgado and Vizcaino in the starting rotation for Gwinnett would truly be something to watch.
if we needed him in the pen
we could get an equally good bullpen arm thats major league ready, plus other good parts, by trading him as a starting pitching prospect.
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O I don't want to trade him
not at all..
The point is, why would we keep him in the pen and not send him down to start?
There’s like a 97% chance he returns to starting. There just hasn’t been an official announcement yet.
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by king of games on Nov 3, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
That being said, we also had over a 97% chance of making the playoffs.
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by king of games on Nov 3, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
freaking ouch.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
right
that’s my point..
it would be illogical to keep him as a reliever – we could trade him for a reliever that will put up his numbers.
Will that reliever make the league minimum and be under team control for years to come?
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no
but he would probably come with prospects
I don’t think anyone in the history of baseball has traded one of their top 3 prospects for a reliever.
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by king of games on Nov 3, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Soria would be pretty irrelevant for us in this scenario.
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by king of games on Nov 3, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think a reliever
has ever been a top 3 prospect, that isn’t even projected to be a closer
Who says he’s not projected to be a closer? I’d certainly peg Vizzy as a closer if he stays a reliever. The fact that Kimbrel is on the team doesn’t preclude him from being projected as a closer. That’s like saying Teheran doesn’t project as an ace because Tommy Hanson (or whoever you consider an ace) is on the team.
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What level of prospects? You’re going to trade one unproven commodity for a proven one and several unproven ones? How is that logical for the other team?
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It's willlin...
and he is still in rosterbation mode from his trade-for-Kemp post the other night. Just turn your back to him before you get something in your eye.
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It’s not even about him, it’s about anyone who might be passing by and think, “Hey, that could work.” I can’t help willlin, he’s beyond ridiculous, but maybe someone else isn’t too far gone.
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Is Hoover strictly considered a RP prospect now...and
where does Caleb Brewer rank?
Redmond?
Is he too old to be considered a prospect or are these guys just higher ranked? Throw in Hoover and Vizcaino and the Braves are completely stacked with RHP.
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Redmond is older, the younger guys have a lot more upside, and until yesterday the Braves seemed completely disinterested in him. If they hadn’t added him to the 40 man he would have become a free agent. I still wouldn’t rank him as a top prospect, but he has a great chance to become a successful Major League if they actually give him a chance. He’s mostly likely a middle reliever, but he could be a back of the rotation innings eater. My favorite thing about Todd is that he will do literally anything to win. During a game he’ll employ about 4 different arm angles to trip up the hitters.
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Great mix
Future stars at the top, middle of the rotation workhorse types, and high upside arms who will be the next future stars. Our pitching pipeline continues to impress despite concerns about our draft spending and unwillingness to sign the cream of the crop on the international front.
I wish there was some team with a ton of hitting prospects and no pitching prospect- so we could trade prospect for prospect. I know those trades rarely happen, but the Braves need one.
So why leave Vizcaino off the list? Not that I’m criticizing. I’m just wondering if we should consider it a legitimate possibility that the Braves decide to not have Vizcaino start the 2012 season in the rotation.
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He spent half the year as a reliever, and as yet we haven’t heard the Braves say they intend on moving him back to the rotation, so as far as we’re concerned he’s a reliever, and the top relief prospect at that.
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Next spring is gonna be fun
Vizcaino, Teheran, Minor, Medlen and Delgado are all going to be in the running for a rotation spot in spring training. I expect some shows!!
Don’t count out Medlen or Vizcaino, and though Delgado might have the least chance, he could also put up the best performance..
redmond on the 40
means one of 3 things
1 – they think they can get something back for him in a minor trade
2 – he brings something so valuable to the development of other players they want him in AAA
3 – the braves are thinking about making some major trades, and he might actually provide depth despite being like 4 down on the depth ladder to Medlen, Minor, Delgado, Vizcaino
Redmond doesn’t have any value in a trade. There are tons of guys out there like him.
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I'm think he's insurance
if we deal Jurrjens, we’d want him around as depth should starters go down and we need more than just Teheran/Delgado as fill ins. If not, we know we can cut him off the 40 and he’s made it through waivers to be kept before.
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That’s exactly what he is, reliable depth. I’d love to think they’re going to give him a real chance to contribute, maybe as a long reliever in Atlanta, but I’m guessing they just let him rot in AAA for another year.
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Vizcaino is still very much a SP prospect
Yes, his role right now is likely the bullpen, but his upside as a prospect is a good front of the rotation starter.
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Great work
Vizcaino should be on this list where I would rank him slightly behind Delgado because of durability issues, but I understand why he is on the reliever’s list right now. I really thought Filak was going to have a good season, but that didn’t work out to well. Thanks
As I said above, he’s on the reliever’s list because he spent half the year as a reliever, including two months of relieving in Atlanta. If a position player was a SS but spent the second half of the year playing exclusively 2B, should I put him on the SS list just because he used to play there?
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If he were definitely going back to SS you might....
although it is a tricky situation, kind of like a reverse David Hale, but much better player.
Just curious, if he were deemed a starter and the FO already announced he’ll begin next year in Gwinnett’s rotation no matter what, where would he rank? 2nd or 3rd?
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I have him 3rd in the organization, just behind Teheran and Delgado. I think regardless of starting or relieving, he’s behind them. I had him and Delgado pretty neck and neck for a while, but Randall’s polish has finally won me over.
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