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Terdoslavich an Elite Prospect

Being a Lynchburg Hillcats fan, I have firsthand knowledge of how good this young hitter is. It is when the "experts" that rank the prospects dissed Joey a little, that I decided to follow him a little closer. For Terdoslavich to be named Braves Organizational Player of the Year, it must mean, generally speaking, that the Braves think very highly of this young man. So, when they decided to throw him into the fire of the Arizona Fall League (AFL), which is primarily an exhibition league with all the finest prospects in Minor League Baseball, to see how Joey would stack up, I am dumbfounded that as the league concluded it's short season, that Joey wasn't among their list of the top 25 prospects. So, here's a little FYI for all you Braves fans: this kid is awesome! How awesome? OK...looking at the AFL stats, and since it's an exhibition league, I'm going to add in the stats from the two exhibition games where stats were somehow excluded (The AFL Rising Stars Game, and the AFL Championship Game). Of the top 100 or so hitting prospects in the game today who played in this year's AFL, Joey ranked 10th in hits (32), 9th in XBH (13), 9th in SLG (.604), 9th in 3Bs (2), 8th in AVG (.351), 6th in Runs (24), 6th in OPS (1.059), and 5th in OBP (.455). Terdoslavich also ranked 11th in HR (4), 11th in TB (55), and 13th in 2B (7), On top of Joey's outstanding year at Lynchburg, where he managed 52 doubles and 20 homers, I just want to say, Congratulations on a Great Year, Joey! 

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He's a very good hitter,

but to say that he is an elite prospect is a little bit optimistic. Yes he is a switch hitter with good power, but he hasn’t proven that he can play a defensive position yet and has only played as high as A+ at 23 years old.

I really like him and hope he sets the world on fire in AA next year and proves he can be our 3B/LF of the future. He has made a lot of headway in the last year though and I hope he can continue to improve.

http://tarpslides-r-us.blogspot.com/

by MWhitexx on Nov 20, 2011 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

I will second that.

No sense makes sense...C.M.

by BlasterPA-C on Nov 20, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

The idea

I think Joey will show a lot of his critics that he can play the hot corner (3B) like he did at Long Beach State and for the Chatham Angler’s of the Cape Cod Baseball League. I think Joey as a switch hitting infielder of his hitting abilities he can become a future fill in for Chipper Jones.

I think Joey may end up at A+ ball but I have a strong feeling he’ll be in Pearl Mississippi with the AA Mississippi Braves, and then later in the MILB season he moves up to AAA and by the time an injury or whatever happens before September Call ups Joey debut’s seasoned and ready to prove his grain of salt.

by JustaBrave on Nov 24, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure he CAN play 3B, he just can't play it at an acceptable level for an MLB team

I mean its great that he played there in college, but its college baseball. If you’re already stuck at 1B in college as a right hander, you’re just a poor, poor defender, so the fact he was playing 3B then basically just tells us he wasn’t a horrible defender and a had a good arm. Let’s put it this way, if Freeman had gone to college, he would have been playing 3B too. Doesn’t mean he would have had any chance to play there in the majors.

by nixa37 on Nov 25, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

especially true when you realize many 3B play SS before moving to 3B. (see, Chipper, Longoria, Ripken, Arod, etc)

if you can play SS in college you might be good enough to play 3B in the majors, if you play 3B in college you are probably destined for 1B or LF. I think that is probably a general rule to which there are some exception.

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

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by Swo12bv on Nov 26, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve only seen him play a few times, but I think he’s a good enough athlete to play a passable third or a league average left field. I know he can really hit, but he’s not this big clunker of a guy that many people seem to think he is. He certainly moves better than Pablo Sandoval.

http://tarpslides-r-us.blogspot.com/

by MWhitexx on Nov 27, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Kala Ka’aihue also won Braves Organizational Player Of The Year. I like J-Terd, and I hope the Braves move him to LF in AA this year. 2012, like others have said, will tell a lot on what type of prospect J-Terd will be. If he can do what he did in 2011, then 2013, he could possibly be a candidate as our starting LF. I’m not trying to get too far ahead of myself. He has potential, but we have to wait and see. I can’t blame the scouts and stuff for not fully believing in the guy.

I don’t care if Constanza hit .500 with 30 HRs and 150 RBI in 3 weeks, benching Heyward was a stupid decision.
by justincredubil02 on Oct 24, 2011 9:55 AM EDT

by rockybull on Nov 20, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

Terdo is being moved to 3B which will be a need for the Braves when Chipper retires. However, Salcedo is also a 3B and could give Terdo some competition there down the line (but that would be a good problem for the Braves to have).

by LEastCoastBears on Nov 21, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Salcedo is projected at 3rd

so terdo would be a stop gap if we trade prado away, however, if we keep prado then Terdo can morph into something of a just short of super utitlity guy…

by T V 1 2 on Nov 21, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, never hurts to have a 4-corners guy that bats switch on the bench.

If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
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by king of games on Nov 21, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

truth

but wouldn’t it be nice if a SS in our system stays at short? we have more former SS’s filling AAAA outfield spots than we do corner guys

by T V 1 2 on Nov 21, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

truth

Every time I see a great young shortstop bat in our system I am like → YES!!

………..and a year later he is playing LF/2B/CF while we are trotting out A-Gonz with no future prospects and I am like → AWWW!!

And then the next year the cycle repeats itself. If we get a great shortstop prospect or young player that can hit, one of two things invariably happens: 1. he gets moved to another position (Chipper Jones); or 2. he gets traded in the least amicable way possible to prevent him ever considering returning (Rafael Furcal; Yunel Escobar). Its like the Braves have an aversion to good hitting short stops.

All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,

by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT

Strong Side / Weak Side: Chipper Jones

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/chipper-jones,8431/

by Santaklose11 on Nov 21, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It happens in every organization.

SS is the toughest position to play, so if there is any chance that a guy can play it, you keep him there until he shows that he can’t. The Brewers once fielded an entire roster of former SS’s (well, and one current SS). Nothing really to see here at all.

by cavebird on Nov 21, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

do you happen to know the year, bc I am racking my brain trying to figure out the guys, but am struggling a bit.

Surhoff, Listach, I know played together and were SS and I think were in the era you describe. but thats all i got.

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

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by Swo12bv on Nov 21, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Go back farther

In the Yount/Molitor years…I’d have to remember which year, though.

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by biggentleben on Nov 21, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

wow didn’t think that was the the case.

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Nov 21, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I know

I was clearly joking. That does seem to be the case though, right?

I suppose Furcal was with us during his best years…so we have had one great all around SS to play for us for a while. I guess I am just envious when I look at what the Rockies have in Tulo, the Yankees have/had in Jeter, and what the Phillies have/had in Rollins. I was pissed at the Yunel trade that was senseless to me.

Anyway, hopefully Simmons keeps progressing, he sounds like he might actually be able to stick there. Pastornicky does not sound too bad either…I guess we just have to wait.

All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,

by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT

Strong Side / Weak Side: Chipper Jones

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/chipper-jones,8431/

by Santaklose11 on Nov 21, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Furcal walked as a free agent

he wasn’t traded. And Chipper was never gonna be a SS. He came up as one, but he’s been decent, not spectacular at 3B. One can only imagine how rough he’d be at SS. In fact, he was originally slated to play LF replacing Ron Gant after he broke his leg, before tearing his ACL that spring, and ultimately replacing Pendleton at 3B the following year.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 21, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The reason Chipper moved off of shortstop was because of the presence of All Star SS Jeff Blauser, who had no range and was a terrible SS too, so the Braves weren’t exactly concerned with SS defense back then. If a few things had fallen differently Chipper certainly could have started at SS in the Majors for a few years.

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by cbwilk on Nov 21, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeff Blauser was solid but unspectacular...

He had 2 good/AS years at the plate, but defensively he was no wizard. I remember watching him back in the day. Outside of 2 good years he was pretty much league average… again usually solid but unspectacular.

He had a higher OPB and average than Alex, who we ride to no end, but in other respects offensively he was pretty much Alex Gonzalez. Defensively, he was no where close to Alex. Its funny because in terms of WAR Blauser was way ahead, but looking at the stats it is difficult to see how (It primarily seems to come from two great seasons by Blauser).

All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,

by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT

Strong Side / Weak Side: Chipper Jones

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/chipper-jones,8431/

by Santaklose11 on Nov 21, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeff Blauser is my least favorite baseball player of all time.

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by cbwilk on Nov 22, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Any particular reason?

I never really thought one way or the other about him. I never remember him doing anything particularly remarkable, but neither did he seem like a waste of space. To me he was like the definition of average. He wasn’t horrendous but I was never particularly excited when he came to bat or a ball was hit his way. Blauser was the ying (solid hitter, below average fielder) to Lemke’s yang (solid fielder, below average hitter).

All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,

by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT

Strong Side / Weak Side: Chipper Jones

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/chipper-jones,8431/

by Santaklose11 on Nov 22, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

As a kid I remember Blauser being a waste of space who struck out looking constantly and was poor on defense. He only had 2 good seasons in his career, both of which came in contract years.

I will say, looking at the numbers, I was surprised how effective he really was. From 89-92, his 23 to 26 year old season, he had a .265/.342/.420/.763 slash line, though he did strike out in 20% of his at bats. He had that great 93 season, with a .305/.401/.436/.837 line, but then after he got his new 4 year contract he sucked for 3 years from 94-96, with a .236/.331/.375/.706 slash line while only averaging 98 games a year. Then he had the other great season in 98, then couldn’t finish out his contract with the Cubs.

I’ll admit, he does seem like a guy who I remember being worse than he actually was. Still, I thought he was a bum who only played well when his contract was running out. But he was very nice the few times I met him while he was coaching with the team.

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by cbwilk on Nov 22, 2011 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I recently had the same kind of epiphany about Blauser. For some reason I thought he was terrible when I was a kid. I went back and looked and was surprised by what I saw.

William Beckwith is a sleeper prospect in our organization. - yondaime4

by yondaime4 on Nov 22, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but you have to be careful around the juice

All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,

by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT

Strong Side / Weak Side: Chipper Jones

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/chipper-jones,8431/

by Santaklose11 on Nov 22, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

seriously, be careful around the juice

All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,

by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT

Strong Side / Weak Side: Chipper Jones

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/chipper-jones,8431/

by Santaklose11 on Nov 28, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Because he stole all his playing time from Rafael Belliard.

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by duwanis on Nov 22, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i wouldnt consider him a super utility. the more i think about it the more it seems like he is a Joe Mather type player.

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Nov 21, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Except a bit less athletic and a bit better with the bat. And again, a switch hitter.

If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02

by king of games on Nov 21, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

so you agree

that he is something just short of a super utility? and whenever i hear mather it makes me think of watching the less coordinated version of francour take a hack…not good memories, hopefully terdo won’t be resigned to being late on fast balls and swining at sliders that bounce twice before they cross the plate

by T V 1 2 on Nov 21, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

something short of a utility guy has no significance to me. it seems like you mean a utility guy, but someone who can’t play anything but the corners really isnt that in my opinion either, seeing as a utility guy should be able to play somewhere up the middle.

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Nov 21, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

this was more of a play on words due to the title given to mr. prado

but agreed on all fronts, hence the necessity of keeping prado for at least this year…

side note, is there a sarcasm font i can use or did I miss the memo?

by T V 1 2 on Nov 21, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

If you type @sarcasm@ you get

sarcasm.

Most people use statistics the way a drunk would use a lamppost—for support, and not for illumination.
www.duwanis.com

by duwanis on Nov 21, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

thanks

and if i flagged you, rookie click

by T V 1 2 on Nov 21, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You rec'd

it just looks like a flag because the people that designed that UI were on when they figured out how that system would work.

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by duwanis on Nov 21, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I prefer not to make blanket statements about keeping or trading a player, but so far from what I have seen in terms of rosterbation and rumor and innuendo, I have not seen a return that i think is appropriate for Prado. He is a 2.5-3 WAR player and his versatility probably makes him that much more valauble.

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Nov 21, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

They officially announced he will be moving to 3B? I heard he was a butcher at 1B, hard to believe he could handle the hot corner. I still think if he makes it in MLB, whether with us or another team, if he plays the field it will be at 1B/LF. Obviously he won’t be playing 1B here.

I don’t care if Constanza hit .500 with 30 HRs and 150 RBI in 3 weeks, benching Heyward was a stupid decision.
by justincredubil02 on Oct 24, 2011 9:55 AM EDT

by rockybull on Nov 22, 2011 5:03 AM EST up reply actions  

It's official...

per Bruce Manno comments not too long back.

-C

It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?

by cthabeerman on Nov 22, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

alright, surprised by that, but I guess it’s worth a shot. I still don’t think from what I heard about him that he will be able to man the hot corner in the majors. Would love to be wrong though.

I don’t care if Constanza hit .500 with 30 HRs and 150 RBI in 3 weeks, benching Heyward was a stupid decision.
by justincredubil02 on Oct 24, 2011 9:55 AM EDT

by rockybull on Nov 22, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

look he is definitely improving, he is NOT an elite prospect

he will probably have a nice career but not much else
don’t get too excited about AFL numbers. just remember that last year we got excited about cory harrilchak. it is a long off season so i will give you a pass.

by ace16tx on Nov 20, 2011 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

It's true that there's not much else to talka bout.

My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.

by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

by Bronn on Nov 20, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Look at the top of the AFL OPS list. It is a who’s-who of top 50 prospects, and there is Terdoslavich seated right in among them. AFL stats count just like any other league, at least in terms of being impressed when a player finished as one of the best hitters.

Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)

by ATLandUNC on Nov 21, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

It is a who’s-who of top 50 prospects

The entire league is a who’s-who of top 50 prospects, it would only make sense the top performers would be.

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by cbwilk on Nov 21, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the main point was that Terdoslavich performed right with all of those guys despite not being a top prospect.

If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02

by king of games on Nov 21, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

But you could say the same thing about any hitter who does that in the AFL. And the AFL is already geared toward hitters succeeding, with the thin Arizona air and pitchers being worn out at this point in the year.

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
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by cbwilk on Nov 21, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but all of the hitters are still on an even playing field, so comparing AFL stats is still valid. Comparing AFL to minor league stats is obviously not valid.

If we can land [Stephen Drew], I will give FW a bj.
~justincredubil02

by king of games on Nov 21, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, and in any given league there are guys who aren’t top prospects who outperform or perform as well as top prospects, it still doesn’t automatically mean they’re as good, or that they themselves should become top prospects.

I wrote a novel, it's about baseball, you should buy it:
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by cbwilk on Nov 21, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

this

but it is nice to have at least one impact bat lurking somewhere…and when I say impact, I mean in comparison to those currently in our system…

by T V 1 2 on Nov 21, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Also Terdoslavich is on the upper end of age in that league. A lot of those guys are younger (Bryce Harper?).

William Beckwith is a sleeper prospect in our organization. - yondaime4

by yondaime4 on Nov 22, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

calm down

it is not a whose who
its a mix of top prospects and future career minor leaguers
harrilchak hit .333 last year! is HE an ELITE prospect?!
its like i said, i think terdo will be a major leaguer but hitting .280 in A ball does not make you an ELITE prospect. if you aren’t a top 10-15 prospect you are NOT ELITE!!!!!!!

by ace16tx on Nov 21, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Saying calm down and then using 6 exclamation points seems a little counterproductive

Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)

by ATLandUNC on Nov 21, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYiv76qRCkA

My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.

by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

by Bronn on Nov 21, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I now finally understand that scene from Family Guy when they do this to Stewie.

Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)

by ATLandUNC on Nov 21, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I suggest you watch Airplane as soon as humnaly possible…you are not a complete human being until that has happened….i just want to tell you good lukc and you’re our only hope.

"No. Lonely people mixing with one another? Breeding? Creating an even lonelier generation? You're not even allowing natural selection do its work. Pssh. You're like the guy who invented the seat belt."

Dwight Schrute

by Swo12bv on Nov 21, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

The fact that you haven’t seen Airplane explains so much.

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by cbwilk on Nov 22, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Love Leslie Nielson, and have seen most of Airplane, I guess I just somehow never caught the scene in question.

Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)

by ATLandUNC on Nov 22, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

but have you seen Airplane 2?????????????????????????

though, my favorite scene is when the little kid is talking smack about Kareem and Kareem about loses it.

by JoelGuzman'sScout on Nov 29, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Called it last year.

Not surprised. J-Terd is going to go a long way, if we can find a defensive position for him to stick to.

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by Chopaholic on Nov 21, 2011 2:45 AM EST reply actions  

in our system he will play a corner outfield position

but in another system he could be a 3rd basemen…sounds like trade bait to me

by T V 1 2 on Nov 21, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

He is not considered elite

He is not part of the top 10 by Baseball America, and he will not be part of the top 100 prospects in the entire game for them.

Performance is great, but if performance was all it took, Wily Mo Pena would be a 7-time MLB All-Star by now.

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by biggentleben on Nov 21, 2011 3:45 AM EST reply actions  

*if minor league performance was all it took,

need an edit button!

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by ChopMaster on Jul 7, 2011 10:24 PM CDT (joined Jul 19, 2010)

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by biggentleben on Nov 21, 2011 3:45 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

i trust BA SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much when it comes to prospects.

by JoelGuzman'sScout on Nov 29, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay

They and Sickels are the two confirmed lists, and Sickels has Terdo at 15 in the Braves system, and he will definitely not qualify for Sickels’ 50/50 list.

BP has already mentioned in their podcasts that Simmons is the bottom of their top 100, and that Terdo is behind Simmons on the Braves list, so he’s not top 100 for them either. They haven’t released their top 11 for the Braves yet, but he’s likely at or near the bottom of that list, if he even makes the top 11.

You can choose to nitpick the source cited, or understand the information presented.

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by biggentleben on Nov 29, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Not quite

I like Terdoslavich, and I know a lot of other people on twitter are fans of him as well.

You have to be realistic here though. He is barely younger than Freddie Freeman and just posted a .341 OBP at high-A. He isn’t even in the upper minors yet, and that’s an OBP that is rather unbecoming for any type of “elite” prospect at any level. He definitely has a nice swing and some good power for his size, but he really is not that highly regarded as a prospect.

by BenDuronio on Nov 21, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry, he’s a year older than Freeman.

by BenDuronio on Nov 21, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

not disagreeing, but it should be noted that being highly regarded as a prospect does not mean any given player is going to be a productive in the major leagues; and neither does not highly regarded as a prospect mean the player is not going to bust through the expectations ceiling and be an all-star performer.

I like Terdoslavich, and think he has some very good upside potential. Call it a hunch or probably just wild-assed speculation, but I’m thinking he has another big year in 2012, ripping up the Southern League and earning a late promotion to the G-Braves.

by fandave on Nov 22, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m one of the bigger advocates of getting people to understand the fact you noted in the first part of your comment. Even the better prospects in each system are far from guarantees and often end up being not much more than role players. This is one reason why those claiming a long-term solution for SS shouldn’t be acquired because they would “block” Pastornicky or Simmons makes little sense to me.

In terms of the quality of a prospect, the good ones at corner infield and outfield spots should have some elite level tools or production. While it’s awesome to look at Terd’s doubles total from last year, one of the main reasons that total has lasted so long as it that any prospect approaching it gets sent up before they could break it. The Braves knew he had work to do, and he has performed well in the offseason.

There are plenty of reasons to like and hope Terdoslavich succeeds, but you can’t help but be cautious of a 22-year-old that just put up a .341 OBP in a corner position at high-A. Those are all rather alarming facts that need to be understood before calling him “elite” as the OP did.

by BenDuronio on Nov 22, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

The AFL is like offense extravaganza

So you have to take those AFL stats with a grain of salt

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by lingsched on Nov 22, 2011 7:53 AM EST reply actions  

this is absolutely true, but i think the point that was made was that even though it was an offensively inflated environment, it is the same for all the hitters. He was near the top in many offensive categories, which leads credence to the idea that he can really rake.

the juxtaposition of this point is that Rich Poythress(or similar players) often crush a league and put up great numbers, but aren’t considered prospects, and rightly so, for whatever reason.

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by Swo12bv on Nov 22, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

His last name is elite.

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by adc62 on Nov 22, 2011 9:03 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

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