Around the NL East - Phillies fail, Cards fan thanks Nats, Mets shaking up coaching, Marlins putting contraceptives on ballpark, Phillies flop out of playoffs
Friday was the first games I actually watched this postseason, with Nyjer Morgan dropping about 20 f-bombs on national television, but more importantly the first round defeat of the Phillies by the Cardinals. Chris Carpenter was an absolute monster on the mound, and it was a fantastic game, with an even more fantastic finish. The Phillies had a phenomenal season, but further prove the old adage of the rigors of the short series, with their impression of the 2001 Mariners.
I could say more words of reconciliation that no Phillies fans want to hear right now, especially from a Braves fan. But in spite of that, this smug grin on my face? That's not going anywhere for a while, as long as we're talking baseball; and no rebuttal of the Braves' own failures changes the fact that the Phillies too, are done for the year as well. Welcome back to the basement.

Says it all - Beerleaguer
Jimmy Rollins wants a five-year deal - Beerleaguer
Naturally, the cocky swag of J-Roll leads to him to also insinuate that despite his entire Philly career, he has no qualms if he had to leave.
Kinda reminds me of Justice - CSN Philadelphia
J-Roll called out the fans for being too quiet during the game 2 loss. You know this is what made them louder and more obnoxious than ever in the clincher.
I have to admit this is awesome - The Good Phight
Even if it's Philly themed with pee on it, it's still some impressive craftsmanship.
At first I was pleased - Phillies Nation
But then I saw that the red dots were hits too. I've kind of been curious about Rocky Mountain Pizza after discovering where it is, but now that I know it's a Phillies joint, I now no longer have any reason to try the place out.

Cardinals fan sends Mike Rizzo gift basket for Nationals beating the Braves - The Bog
Wow, just wow. I wonder if this guy sent one to Omar Infante, or maybe Chipper Jones for losing the ball in the lights, or Larry Parrish too?
Jesus Flores is not content where is now - Nationals Journal
Given the tumultuous trek of his recovery from a rotator cuff injury, the fact that Flores managed to stay healthy throughout all of 2011 should be more than enough to be thankful for. But the 27-year old catcher has a little bit of angst about not being viewed as the number one guy, and is making some suggestive remarks that might not help his cause, what with a catching prospect like Derek Norris waiting in the wings.
Nationals still want a leadoff hitter - MASN
Ian Desmond supposedly fared well in the final month, but a .318 OBP isn't something to call home about.
How about B.J. Upton? - The Nats Blog
It kind of makes sense for both sides. The Rays will inevitably try to unload Upton, with Desmond Jennings proving his worth, and the proposed idea of Ian Desmond and Roger Bernadina sounds good initially, although the Rays will obviously want something more, but from the Nats' standpoint, both can be expendable with the SS options in the minors, not to mention Danny Espinosa's position was shortstop before coming up.
Mike Morse named nominee for Hank Aaron award - WaPo
I still can't get over just how much of a statistical explosion Mike Morse was throughout 2011, to where this once Mariners-washout is now getting nominated for awards like the Hank Aaron.
Nationals have the fewest TV viewers in baseball - The Nats Blog
And to think of all the trouble that went into appeasing Peter Angelos in creation of the MASN networks.

Mets will "attempt" to keep Jose Reyes, despite reducing payroll - NY Daily News
It's funny how they talk about "reducing" to "just" $100-110M is like some kind of fire sale. The Braves haven't had a nine-figure payroll since 2008, and even that deserves an asterisk next to Mike Hampton's name. I remember when Chan Ho Park made more than the Marlins' entire payroll one year.
Johan Santana is still pitching, albeit not for much longer - NY Post
Down in the instructional league, Johan Santana has still been pitching. He'll stop on Saturday, and hope for the best going into 2012.
Jimmy Rollins on Jose Reyes' last game - NY Daily News
"I probably wouldn't have come out of the game, though . . . That's me, though."
Yeah right. I'd really like to see what happened if Rollins were chasing the batting title.
Mets to make coaching changes for 2012 - NY Times
Terry Collins will be kept for 2012, but the rest of his coaching staff is going to look pretty different. Base coaches Chip Hale and Mookie Wilson won't be back, nor will bench coach Keb Oberkfell, and bullpen coach Jon Debus. Mookie, Hale, and Debus were offered alternative jobs, but so far only Hale has decline, and since gone to the Oakland A's to be their bench coach.
Mets lowering cost of season tickets, introducing dynamic pricing for individual tickets - Amazin' Avenue
Dynamic pricing is a little bit of a catch-22. Personally, I like the way the Braves have their pricing; pretty static, and I have a general understanding of what I'm going to pay if I pre-buy, or buy at the gate. Weekdays are cheaper than weekends, and series like the Yankees will get gauged. For the Mets, dynamic pricing pretty much means that versus the Nationals tickets will be really economical, unless the team is suddenly contending, or maybe Stephen Strasburg is pitching. Sometimes it will be pleasantly cheap, other times it will be kind of obnoxiously pricey.
Citi Field attendance dropped another 8% in 2011 - ESPN NY
Compared to the final year at Shea Stadium, attendance has fallen almost 40% since then in the three following years.
Television viewership too - The Mets Police
In all, 39,000 fewer homes per game watched the Mets this past season.
Merchandise that actually exists - NotGraphs
It kind of looks like Tony the Tiger is in the process of being flushed, to be honest.
Atlanta Braves, wild card champions of Nicaragua - The Apple
Well played, Randy. It's probably true, unfortunately.

Javier Vazquez named NL Pitcher of the Month - Fish Stripes
5-0, 0.71 ERA, 38.0 IP, 36K/3BB. Man, reading this line really makes me shed a tear back at when this was pretty much Derek Lowe in September last year.
The Marlins should be getting on their hands and knees - Fish Bytes
And begging Javy to come back for another year, but he remains adamant that this is it. Personally, I always admire athletes that retire on a high note, and after the way Javy finished 2011, I'd say he'd be leaving on as high of a note as he'll get anymore these days.
But if not, apparently Ozzie Guillen has a lot of numbers in his pocket - Palm Beach Post
Most notably Carlos Zambrano, who pretty much ditched the Cubs after Dan Uggla killed his career. He's still friends with Ozzie, and is definitely looking for work now. Also mentioned is Mark Buehrle.
This can't be real, can it? - Miami New Times
A rubber membrane designed to reduce glare off the bulbous metal roof. Eventually, the whole stadium will be covered by it.
Call it the Condome.
Seriously???
Not sure if this is better or worse - SBNation
Considering the Condome might not be permanent, this might actually be worse until Mike Stanton breaks it with a homer.
Nice crowd, Marlins finale - YouTube
User vsilvacoto might want to thank me for bringing his video inevitably more than three views, but for a "grand finale" at Sun Life Sharkphin Robbie Stadium, there are still like, maybe 400 fans, tops, for this ceremony.
Nobody watching Marlins games, either - Sun Sentinel
Continuing in the trend of NL East teams going unwatched, the Marlins join the Mets and Nats as teams with reduced followings, with the Fish dropping an "alarming 27.8%" from the prior season.
A boatload of fascinating Marlins quotes from Fish Stripes
Then, Guillen's attention was drawn to OF Bryan Petersen, who was wearing reindeer antlers as part of a rookie hazing ritual.
"You must be LoMo," Guillen quipped, mistaking Petersen for Morrison.
"I never had an argument with Jeffrey. We will. I expect that because that's part of the game," said Guillen. "I'm not afraid of Jeffrey. I'm not afraid of anyone."
Loria said he isn't worried about Guillen ruffling his feathers.
"I could care less about feathers. I don't have any feathers and I don't care about him ruffling anybody," Loria said. "Ozzie has his opinions and he is entitled to them. Ozzie comes with a great pedigree."
"Basically what Jeffrey has instructed all of us is that no stone will be left unturned in order to make this year a memory and make next year unforgettable," Samson said.
"He said, 'I want people to forget about '11, forget about Sun Life Stadium, forget about the Florida Marlins, and I want the Miami Marlins have their franchise start by making history.' "
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your opening 2 paragraphs
my thoughts exactly. yesterday was the first time i actually watched both games. i heard nyjer’s FOOK YEAH and couldn’t help but sympathize because if braves had won a postseason series, i’d be doing that for about 2 days in a row without stopping. but, i still really, really dislike nyjer morgan for some reason.
but i could not be happier with phailies, despite their awesome season, getting bounced at home. welcome to the arena of the big boys, phillies, where expectations vastly overshadow results.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
my thoughts exactly
The Phillies fans are now seeing how hard it actually is to win a World Series, despite having the ‘best team’ on paper. Their season actually reminds me of many of ours in the 90s. Despite having possibly the best pitching staff of all time (and certainly better than Philadelphia’s) and a potent offense, we would get bounced early due to a reliance on the long ball.
For me, the Phillies getting eliminated early is second only to the Braves winning the World Series. What a great night.
In the end, Philadelphia, your team just wasn’t that great.
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
btw
how dare you disgrace commander keen with a Mets helmet? lol
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Phillies/Cards take
The Cards have been scraping for every game since the end of August. They had no room for error. Win or go home. They were conditioned for high pressure games. Phillies been in cruise control for how long? 2/3 rds of the season? When the pressure was on, they weren’t up to it.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
O. M. G.
Just looked at the animation of that Marlins thing… it looks like a WurlitZer jukebox had swordfish for dinner and then threw up. If I were Mike Stanton, I’d strike out in every home at-bat, just to make sure that thing doesn’t get activated.
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Phillies go home in the 1st round so much for 100 wins, so much for having an all-star rotation
Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery/Millwood/Neagle/etc. >>>> Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Oswalt
Whereas people in the South are all ignorant, uneducated rednecks, everyone in Philadelphia is very sophisticated and exceedingly intelligent. It is not known exactly how such extraordinary genes came together in this one location.
-- Unknown
forget allstar. it was described as 'for the ages'.
the rotation induces orgasms at the mere mention.
when one says halladay, lee, hamels…the Earth reverses its rotation.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
no more hamels, oswalt is only getting worse
the phillies are getting old and declining while the braves have the youth and prospects. be afraid phillies, be very afraid
Hamels is back, he still has a year of arbitration before free agency, and they’ll re-sign him anyway.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
that is a ton of production before he even hits free agency
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Lets not go too far with them re-signing Hamels anyway. The Yankees and Red Sox and many other teams are going to want to pay a pretty penny on Hamels left arm. He may go back to Philly, but it may be at a much greater price than they will be hoping for. I can seriously see Hamels getting 7-8 years worth $15+ mil per year easy on the open market.
braves#1
Too low
I’ll bet the Yanks would dangle $30M/year for five in front of Hamels.
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
no way
he’s not worth any more than 13mil, and really not much more than 10 in a longer contract.
he basically took the summer off because of health issues, and was barely good and far from great after he returned.
by stillnotah8er on Oct 8, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, I don’t see him making no 30 mil/year or nothing like that. And you are prolly right he isn’t worth any more than 13 mil per, but it is the open market, and you know how crazy it can get, especially when big money teams are desperate for SP. Just sayin…
braves#1
What??
Are you talking about Hamels or Oswalt? Hamels was a top-20 pitcher in the league, has a K/BB of about 4 and is a stud. Took no time off, making 32 starts.
I project $15-20MM/year on a 5-7 year deal after next season.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
He is having off season elbow surgery
that sounds like routine maintenance, but it’ll still probably cost him a couple mil and put him on the lower end of your range.
On the plus side, Howard tore his achilles. So you know the Phillies are getting their money’s worth in the massive deal about to begin.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
Has anyone heard what happened to Howard last night. I’ve heard some rumors and guesses but nothing confirmed.
Sportscenter said it could be some sort of Achilles injury. If so that could rule him out for a few months of next season.
Tripped on LaRussa’s squirrell
At the age of six I wanted to be a chef. At seven I wanted to be Napoleon. My ambition has been steadily growing ever since. -Salvador Dali
by Kushagi on Oct 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Haven’t heard, but Howard’s description of it sounds bad. He said it felt like someone hit the back of his ankle with a bit, and then when he tried to leave the box, he couldn’t get that foot to function. Sounds like it might be a complete tear.
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
I read that as "Heyward" at first
and nearly shit a brick
Freeman isn’t on Heyward’s level in terms of tools, skills, or baseball IQ–but it’s fair to say Freeman has failed to meet the modest expectations in place for him - Capitol Avenue Club (May 28th, 2011)
hahahah suck it phillies! where are the trolls now
turns out 175 million can’t win a championship. ESPN must be in utter shock right now that none of their precious babies (yankees red sox phillies) are left.
I don’t want to sound classless and the phillies did go further than the braves, but I can’t help but smile because of the dbags that came trolling around here on the last day of the regular season
There were a lot of exclamation points in that diatribe!
Too bad it doesn’t change the fact that Philly phell victim to the crapshoot that is the LDS!
Suck it Philly!
"Jason Heyward was a Greek philosopher reincarnated as a baseball player." - Don Sutton
Only one ring out of all this talent
for the phils – starting to remind me of the 01-08 yanks, or the 05-10 colts.
really, just sad – a crappy second-tier city where a boat is better than a car for most of the summer – now all they have is chinadoll vick. where’s the sally struthers commercial?
My recollection is...
that the Braves rotation pitched decently in the playoffs, and the Braves would have had two additional WS titles without bullpen meltdowns. (Mark Wohlers, I’m lookin’ at you…)
"Some people give their bodies to science. I gave mine to baseball." -- Ron Hunt
Maddux and Glavine never seemed to pitch their best in the postseason. Mark Wohlers never seemed to pitch his best after he met Jim Leyritz.
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by VivaLosBravos on Oct 10, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I said in another thread that if Phillies play the Braves hard and keep Braves out, then be careful what you wish for Phillies. I thought with the Cards smoking hot and winning 3 of 4 against Phillies and beating Lee and Halladay in back to back games in September that I thought Cards would be an awful first round matchup for the Phillies. I’m not one bit shocked this happened. I remember seeing a Phillies fan post something similar as a fan post and the other philly people were like nahhh we got this. Ya, you got this alright. You guys sooo good that you don’t have to play baseball anymore ;)
braves#1
Giddy
I wake up in the morning, and I think to myself “The Phillies lost”, and my day brightens. Would have been sweeter if it had been the Braves knocking them out, but oh well. GO TIGERS!
"I Farted" - Me, everday
The wheels are coming off
Tgp is already stressing about who will fill in for their broken down players. They seem to think Mayberry can do the job at first. Not to mention the comment “we don’t have a pitching prospect ready until 2013.”. That makes me laugh.
As far as I’m concerned Howard will never be the same. And quite honestly any team with Dicktorino on it deserves to break down.
At the age of six I wanted to be a chef. At seven I wanted to be Napoleon. My ambition has been steadily growing ever since. -Salvador Dali
by Kushagi on Oct 9, 2011 9:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don’t mind if Howard stays exactly the same.
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by VivaLosBravos on Oct 10, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate the Phillies (especially their obnoxious fans)...
but I respect Howard and he seems like a nice guy, so don’t make it personal. I would not wish an achilles tendon tear on anyone. That is horrific and can be career ending…..just sayin…
All while Fredi is surrounded by a bunch of orangutans, trying to teach them how to bunt the rocks and coconuts that angry 300 lb gorillas are throwing at them,
by royhobbs on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM PDT
Strong Side / Weak Side: Chipper Jones
http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/chipper-jones,8431/
by Santaklose11 on Oct 11, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

And I have had a perma-smile for 2 days now.
"It looks like The Hound of the Baskervilles out there." - Steve Stone
"...I'm reminded of Wuthering Heights." - Harry Caray
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Gaby Sanchez - 1, Nyjer Morgan - 0
by Chief Noc-A-Homa on Oct 9, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Thank you so much...
for the “Why I Pity Phillies Fans” caption. This is what they deserve for that post.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

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